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Posted By: Monkeymaster Colorado Wolves - 11/20/23
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Posted By: stuvwxyz Re: Colorado Wolves - 11/20/23
Proof positive that you most people shouldn't be allowed to vote. This proposal was voted in by city people who don't have a clue. Finally, after 40 years we are getting a decent moose population. The wolves will take care of those pesky moose soon enough.
Posted By: saddlesore Re: Colorado Wolves - 11/20/23
People better use their pref points soon. Elk hunting as we know it will be gone in 5 years or less
Posted By: PaulBarnard Re: Colorado Wolves - 11/21/23
Originally Posted by stuvwxyz
Proof positive that you most people shouldn't be allowed to vote. This proposal was voted in by city people who don't have a clue. Finally, after 40 years we are getting a decent moose population. The wolves will take care of those pesky moose soon enough.

These moose are right where they want to let the damn things go.

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Posted By: TSIBINDI Re: Colorado Wolves - 11/21/23
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Posted By: SLM Re: Colorado Wolves - 11/21/23
NM has a mexican wolf North of I-40 out of the recovery area and moving North. USFWS is just “monitoring”, not removing it as the recovery plan states.

Can’t wait for the teeth gnashing and whining about recovery area lines when CO’s wolves start moving South and the Mexicans keep moving North.
Posted By: 160user Re: Colorado Wolves - 11/21/23
It says they have to release 10 of them. It sure would be a bummer if all 10 were Males.
Posted By: Reloder28 Re: Colorado Wolves - 11/21/23
Why stop with Wolves? Get some Grizzlies, Badgers, Wolverines, Coyotes, etc.
Posted By: memtb Re: Colorado Wolves - 11/21/23
Originally Posted by Reloder28
Why stop with Wolves? Get some Grizzlies, Badgers, Wolverines, Coyotes, etc.


The grizzlies will do far less harm than the d@^^n wolves! memtb
Posted By: Ranger99 Re: Colorado Wolves - 11/21/23
There's ways
Posted By: deerstalker Re: Colorado Wolves - 11/21/23
even with wolf take allowed here in north Idaho, we haven't seen a Moose in 3 years. for years before the wolves got so massed, I had moose winter on my lawn.
wolf tracks all around my place every morning in the frost. no moose, few elk, and pitiful deer population.
I like wolves. wolf rug, wolf jacket, wolf leggings, wolf hat.
Posted By: wytex Re: Colorado Wolves - 11/21/23
Originally Posted by PaulBarnard
Originally Posted by stuvwxyz
Proof positive that you most people shouldn't be allowed to vote. This proposal was voted in by city people who don't have a clue. Finally, after 40 years we are getting a decent moose population. The wolves will take care of those pesky moose soon enough.

These moose are right where they want to let the damn things go.

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What area is that sir, pretty it looks like N Colorado and that is not where they are releasing them.
Posted By: BeanMan Re: Colorado Wolves - 11/21/23
The East Slope of Colorado decides what Western Colorado has to live with.
Posted By: Ralphie Re: Colorado Wolves - 11/21/23
I hope colorado is ready for a scourge of moose habitat destruction, brain worms, ticks, and other heretofore unknown plagues on the moose population.

I don't know why but wherever wolves are re introduced these OTHER moose killers always show up. Can't quite figure it out. crazy
Posted By: pete53 Re: Colorado Wolves - 11/21/23
here in Minnesota we have too many wolves and yes the city -its have the votes and the help of the worthless liberal Governor Walz who are all wolf lovers . us the Red vote who own the most land mass in Minnesota have no say but the welfare people , city its have the most votes in the Twin Cities its a real chit show .
Posted By: johna1 Re: Colorado Wolves - 11/21/23
Despite popular belief otherwise, I've heard wolves howling in extreme southeast KY too.

Pretty sure I got a video of one walking in front of my ATV too. You can see the Honda 420 Fourtrax in the background. This critter would at least come up to the headlights on it. Which are about waist high.



Listen closely in the background and you'll hear one howl starting about 2 seconds. The deer hears it too and decides to go the opposite direction of where it hears it.



A guy I was talking to about seeing and hearing them told me they're endangered. Only thing I could think to tell him is they sure are.
Posted By: PaulBarnard Re: Colorado Wolves - 11/22/23
Originally Posted by wytex
Originally Posted by PaulBarnard
Originally Posted by stuvwxyz
Proof positive that you most people shouldn't be allowed to vote. This proposal was voted in by city people who don't have a clue. Finally, after 40 years we are getting a decent moose population. The wolves will take care of those pesky moose soon enough.

These moose are right where they want to let the damn things go.

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What area is that sir, pretty it looks like N Colorado and that is not where they are releasing them.

This is between Crested Butte and Aspen.
Posted By: Reloder28 Re: Colorado Wolves - 11/22/23
Originally Posted by BeanMan
The East Slope of Colorado decides what Western Colorado has to live with.


Time for a divorce.
Posted By: MAC Re: Colorado Wolves - 11/22/23
Originally Posted by BeanMan
The East Slope of Colorado decides what Western Colorado has to live with.

Not quite. CA decides what CO has to live with. I am a 5th generation native of CO and I left the state when transplanted morons from CA took the place over. You can thank Roy Romer for this happening.
Posted By: Rock Chuck Re: Colorado Wolves - 11/22/23
Originally Posted by deerstalker
even with wolf take allowed here in north Idaho, we haven't seen a Moose in 3 years. for years before the wolves got so massed, I had moose winter on my lawn.
wolf tracks all around my place every morning in the frost. no moose, few elk, and pitiful deer population.
I like wolves. wolf rug, wolf jacket, wolf leggings, wolf hat.
In the other end of the states, unit 54 has a good growing moose herd. This year it’s the only unit in the state with cow tags (all 3 of them). While wolves have been seen south of the Snake river, there are no established packs. Maybe there’s some correlation there?
Posted By: las Re: Colorado Wolves - 11/22/23
Originally Posted by memtb
Originally Posted by Reloder28
Why stop with Wolves? Get some Grizzlies, Badgers, Wolverines, Coyotes, etc.


The grizzlies will do far less harm than the d@^^n wolves! memtb

Maybe, maybe not. Griz are calf-killing SOB's for a couple months in the spring. Wolves eat year round, so hard to tell.

ADF&G took out 100 bears off the Mulchatna (declining pop) caribou calving grounds this spring , all feeding on or actively chasing calves when killed. A half-dozen or so were cubs killed along with their mothers. It is thought that some of the bears came from 100 miles away for the event , annually. Like the moth larvae thing, elsewhere, apparently.

Only 5 wolves were found and killed, I think.

You should have heard the anti-hunter outrage! (Bears count, caribou calves don't apparently)

As is common with bears, the numbers were initially vastly under estimated at 20-25 to be killed.

IIRC one study here in Alaska showed that 70% of moose calves died in the first 3 months, and 70% of that was bear predation.
Posted By: Dillonbuck Re: Colorado Wolves - 11/22/23
Not sure how this applies vs grizzlies.


Gary Ault was the black bear guy in this state for a long time, oversaw their
expansion untill they were huntable over most of the state.

Then he became the dear guy.


They ran a fawn mortality survey, and he stated that he was amazed at the
number of fawns taken by bear. That even with his extensive time working
with bears, he had no idea just how many fawns they took.




A good friend and old hunter swore he saw a wolf north of Crested Butte in the early 90s. Watched it for some time in the timber.

Someone is gonna claim it was a coyote, but who knows?





PGC has this game they play.

For decades, "There are no mountain lions in Pa!"


Now, it's,

"There are no mountain lions in PA!
If you see one, it's just passing through.
We want to remind everyone that every animal in PA is protected.
It is illegal to kill any wild animal unless you are licensed and it is in season."


I laugh everytime this comes up.



Evidently, PGC requires mountain lion to apply for residency.
The theory that one wouldn't set stakes while "traveling through",
the obvious concern with someone blasting that which doesn't exist....
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Posted By: Monkeymaster Re: Colorado Wolves - 11/22/23
Sure look a lot like big coyotes.
Just saying
Posted By: las Re: Colorado Wolves - 11/22/23
Nah , mountain lions have long tails. smile
Posted By: johna1 Re: Colorado Wolves - 11/22/23
Originally Posted by Dillonbuck
Not sure how this applies vs grizzlies.
PGC has this game they play.

For decades, "There are no mountain lions in Pa!"


Now, it's,

"There are no mountain lions in PA!
If you see one, it's just passing through.
We want to remind everyone that every animal in PA is protected.
It is illegal to kill any wild animal unless you are licensed and it is in season."


I laugh everytime this comes up.



Evidently, PGC requires mountain lion to apply for residency.
The theory that one wouldn't set stakes while "traveling through",
the obvious concern with someone blasting that which doesn't exist....
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

They've said the same thing in KY. I think they all take trainings with each other and share notes.

https://fw.ky.gov/Wildlife/Pages/Mountain-Lions.aspx

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Evidence:

Currently, there is no evidence to suggest that Kentucky is home to wild mountain lions.



Until blush :

https://www.foxnews.com/us/officer-...otted-in-kentucky-since-before-civil-war
Posted By: TheLastLemming76 Re: Colorado Wolves - 11/23/23
Originally Posted by johna1
Originally Posted by Dillonbuck
Not sure how this applies vs grizzlies.
PGC has this game they play.

For decades, "There are no mountain lions in Pa!"


Now, it's,

"There are no mountain lions in PA!
If you see one, it's just passing through.
We want to remind everyone that every animal in PA is protected.
It is illegal to kill any wild animal unless you are licensed and it is in season."


I laugh everytime this comes up.



Evidently, PGC requires mountain lion to apply for residency.
The theory that one wouldn't set stakes while "traveling through",
the obvious concern with someone blasting that which doesn't exist....
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

They've said the same thing in KY. I think they all take trainings with each other and share notes.

https://fw.ky.gov/Wildlife/Pages/Mountain-Lions.aspx

Quote
Evidence:

Currently, there is no evidence to suggest that Kentucky is home to wild mountain lions.



Until blush :

https://www.foxnews.com/us/officer-...otted-in-kentucky-since-before-civil-war
No doubt.

We got the exact same line in MI for years. The DNR claimed that there were none. When one got killed by a car they claimed it was probably an escaped or released exotic pet.🙄 Still couldn’t shoot one though.

It wasn’t until trail cams got big and there were too many pics to deny it that they finally admitted that there were mountain lions in MI. Now it’s juveniles cats passing through from western states with no proof of a breeding population.

The same DNR that claims wolves have a minimal impact on deer because beavers are there primary food source.
Posted By: 1tnhunter Re: Colorado Wolves - 11/23/23
Originally Posted by TSIBINDI
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^^^this^^^
Posted By: pete53 Re: Colorado Wolves - 11/23/23
don`t forget this about peta and liberal people who want our guns they like wolves because wolves ruin hunting by destroying population of game animals . less hunters less guns and peta and gun haters win , its sad but true these liberals want our guns .
Posted By: johna1 Re: Colorado Wolves - 11/23/23
Originally Posted by pete53
don`t forget this about peta and liberal people who want our guns they like wolves because wolves ruin hunting by destroying population of game animals . less hunters less guns and peta and gun haters win , its sad but true these liberals want our guns .

I went to a town hall over the issue of nuisance bears and the states main bear biologist plainly said they didn't have longer seasons or raise harvest quotas because they knew they'd be sued by them.

Truth.
Posted By: chesterwy Re: Colorado Wolves - 11/23/23
Damn shame. Colorado is one of the last hold outs for Shiras Moose. Colorado has a bunch of people out hiking around with their dogs. Going to be a lot of shredded yellow labs unfortunately.
Posted By: BeanMan Re: Colorado Wolves - 11/23/23
I have 23 moose points, hope I draw before it becomes pointless.
Posted By: stuvwxyz Re: Colorado Wolves - 11/23/23
Originally Posted by BeanMan
I have 23 moose points, hope I draw before it becomes pointless.


Got you beat BEANMAN, I have 34 unsucsessful attemps.
Posted By: KC Re: Colorado Wolves - 11/23/23
Originally Posted by TSIBINDI
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I shoot every coyote that I see and I can't tell the difference between a wolf and a coyote, at 100 yards.
Posted By: Ranger99 Re: Colorado Wolves - 11/23/23
Originally Posted by KC
Originally Posted by TSIBINDI
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I shoot every coyote that I see . . . . . . .

I wish more people would.
They didn't pay those bounties decades ago
just for meanness.
Posted By: las Re: Colorado Wolves - 11/23/23
I went to a town hall over the issue of nuisance bears and the states main bear biologist plainly said they didn't have longer seasons or raise harvest quotas because they knew they'd be sued by them.

Truth.[/quote]

Same here with brown bear on the KP. Everyone knew there were many more than the "official" count, and the biologists would admit it. Without sound science data (bears are hard to count!) they dared not increase seasons or limits. Keep in mind they were using a Montana Model!

Finally got money for a DNA hair snag study before they could better the season/limit without getting sued by the nut cases. There were almost 2X the original estimate.

Wolves run in packs, mostly, and are somewhat easier to count.
Posted By: Rock Chuck Re: Colorado Wolves - 11/23/23
You can shoot wolves in Idaho but you need a tag. Resident tags are $11 and there’s no limit on how many you can buy. In most if the state the season is 12 months long.
Posted By: BeanMan Re: Colorado Wolves - 11/23/23
Originally Posted by stuvwxyz
Originally Posted by BeanMan
I have 23 moose points, hope I draw before it becomes pointless.


Got you beat BEANMAN, I have 34 unsucsessful attemps.


DAMN!
Posted By: mark shubert Re: Colorado Wolves - 11/23/23
Release the damn wolves in downtown Denver.
Just like illegal immigrants in NYC.
Posted By: shoreacres1 Re: Colorado Wolves - 01/04/24
Another episode of liberals know best. I've seen most of our good moose population decimated by the grand wolf experiments going on across the west. Its a sad state of affairs.
Posted By: Schofield Re: Colorado Wolves - 01/13/24
It's not good for you Coloradans. The wolves up here in MT and the Grizzlies just keep eating more elk and they just keep spreading farther and farther. Gardiner used to be the elk hunting capital of the world and now its hard to get a decent bull there at all
Posted By: Oldagpilot Re: Colorado Wolves - 01/13/24
Do wolves eat tree huggers just wondering?
Posted By: duckster Re: Colorado Wolves - 01/13/24
Originally Posted by Schofield
It's not good for you Coloradans. The wolves up here in MT and the Grizzlies just keep eating more elk and they just keep spreading farther and farther. Gardiner used to be the elk hunting capital of the world and now its hard to get a decent bull there at all

Hunted in Gardiner area a few years ago and didn't see great elk numbers. Weather was a bit of a factor too but our outfitter, Jeremiah Johnson, said wolves were a big part of it.
Posted By: alpinecrick Re: Colorado Wolves - 01/13/24
Originally Posted by Oldagpilot
Do wolves eat tree huggers just wondering?

There are plans to train ‘em to eat Lifestyle Immigrants and Tourans……..
Posted By: alpinecrick Re: Colorado Wolves - 01/13/24
Hope it works……
Posted By: Oldagpilot Re: Colorado Wolves - 01/13/24
Originally Posted by alpinecrick
Hope it works……
Simple dog training if they eat a couple of the wrong people they will start the eradication program problem solved
Posted By: las Re: Colorado Wolves - 01/13/24
Originally Posted by Oldagpilot
Do wolves eat tree huggers just wondering?

Happened up here a couple years back. They do not eat backpack hunters, or his dog. I have a pelt to prove it.
Posted By: Rock Chuck Re: Colorado Wolves - 01/14/24
Originally Posted by deerstalker
even with wolf take allowed here in north Idaho, we haven't seen a Moose in 3 years. for years before the wolves got so massed, I had moose winter on my lawn.
wolf tracks all around my place every morning in the frost. no moose, few elk, and pitiful deer population.
I like wolves. wolf rug, wolf jacket, wolf leggings, wolf hat.
So far, wolves haven't taken hold south of the Snake River although a few have been seen. Units 54 and 55 have a good and growing moose population. We trail ride in 54 a lot and see moose almost every trip. If the wolves ever moved in, that would change in a hurry.
Posted By: Bugger Re: Colorado Wolves - 01/14/24
The state of South Dakota allowed wolf shooting in the Eastern side of the state. The fine people of the Twin Cities took the state to court. Now it is no longer legal. I have seen a couple wolves nearby. One was in my yard and had my dog backed up into a corner. The dog was barking like crazy. Bottom line the dog turned out fine. It is illegal to shoot wolves here, that’s all I’ll say.
Posted By: johna1 Re: Colorado Wolves - 01/14/24
The only law that animals understand are the laws of nature. That's all I'll say too.
Posted By: mooshoo Re: Colorado Wolves - 01/15/24
that means utah has them, my odds of drawing a tag just gets worse by the minute!!
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