Hi Folks,

Been looking at the forum for a long time and thought I'd finally pull up a chair to the campfire. I have a 9.3x62 that I found a few pet loads for it but am needing some of your opinions on which bullet would be the best(better) choice. There was a thread regarding 9.3 bullets last Nov. but didn't quite answer the few questions I have.

Load #1 Speer 270gr Hot Cor - groups under an inch at around 2,450 ft/sec

Load #2 Nosler 250gr Accubond - groups a little over an inch at around 2,500 ft/sec

I have not tried any of the 286's yet.

I should mention that I got this rifle for my general hunting needs in Alaska (primarily moose and grizzly). I've not had this hard of time deciding on a bullet for a cartridge before. I grew up only hunting deer in eastern MT and haven't had the opportunity to hunt the big stuff here in Alaska where bullet choice takes on a whole new meaning. Is the Hot Cor strong enough to fit the bill or should I go up to the premium bullets.

Thanks for your input folks!

Chris

IMO, either will work as the velocity is not enough to stress the standard bullet construction. I would lean towards the 250gr offering, and only go up if the big bears on the agenda.

You may not need 286's, but the Hornady offering would probably serve you very well at those velocities.

I have a couple of 9.3x64 Brenneke's, I haven't quite settled on a load yet myself. The best load I have found so far is the factory Brenneke 293gr TUG loading. But people have claimed those bullets aren't very tough.

I have had problems getting the Barnes 250gr TSX's to shoot, which kind of amazes me. As all the other TSX's I have used are superbly accurate. I have some of the 250gr AB's, 286gr Hornady's, and 286gr Nosler Partitions on the bench as well. But haven't had the time to go to the range to give them a test.

I have found the Barnes banded solids in 250gr to shoot pretty good, though I'll never need them in the field, just playing around.

I am handicapping myself, as I want one load for both rifles to keep the ammo confusion to a minimum.

the only problem i can see with the 286gr Hornady is if you want to crimp at the groove. it was designed for the 9.3x74r, so, your intended velocities should work well. the 9.3x62 has a shorter neck the the x74r, which means that if crimped at the groove it may encroach on powder space or not give you your desired OAL. YMMV

advntrjnky

I have pretty much settled on the 250 AB in both of my 9.3s for North American hunting. If I ever get back to Africa, I would try some more 286 grain bullets to see how they stack up...

you ll certainly chime Ted and it will tell you that speer 270 works very well at least in Yukon.

Hi CRS,

About TUG, maybe they are not tough as a Barnes X but TUG are very tough bullets created by Wilhelm Brenneke to be used in Africa, they are twin core bullets, where the first core tend to expand well while the second core in hardened lead, blocked by jacket lock, goes through game like a Partition or a Swift A-frame. Speer surely took inspiration for the first Grand Slam from TIG and TUG bullets. Lots of African game was killed by such bullets in 9,3x62 or 64. Friend of me use them with authority on cafer and equinoxialis buffalos for years. But think they must be hard to find in the US and very expensive.

Hi Archer,

Have a look at the 286 Nosler Partition, Federal loaded them in 9,3x74R for euro market and i loaded some for my 9,3s with great success on wild boars and red deers. Oryx from Norma is also very efficient bullet in 232grs, 286grs and 325grs.
Swift as also an A-frame that must do well.
Good choice

Thanks for the input everyone. I enjoy hearing what others are using for loads out there and have had experience with. It sounds like I can't go wrong with any of those bullets listed. Even though there is a limited group of bullet manufacturers making bullets in the 9.3 there are still enough options to make it fun to think about! If I had to pick right now I lean towards the 250 Accubond for my moose load based on bullet construction, accuracy and affordability. I am intrigued however with the Hornady 286 Interlock and as posted I've had great luck in accuracy with the Speer. I probably wouldn't crimp the Interlock for this so I think I'd be ok. It is an interesting dilemna that I enjoy mulling over. Still undecided though. If it was only one bullet what would you choose?

I started a 9.3x62 project several years ago. Ray Atkinson weighed in about bullets on another forum, and his advice was dead-on. If I remember correctly, the upshot was that the Speers were a little too soft for the 9.3x62, but it would be best to get it directly from him.

I went with the 286-grain Nosler after that and was happy with the results on several feral cattle at ranges from 30-120m.


Okie John

Two tests, one subject with the 286 Hornady were very positive:



The bullets opened well out of my x74R #1, they both exited, and they made the bear first sick, then very dead.

I can't speak to either of those bullets but the 286gr Oryx works well. In case you look for a heavy later.

Hard to argue with that proof!

My 9.3X62 shoots both Hornady 286's and Nosler Partitions equally well with the same charge of RL15. My choice in your situation would be to shoot the Hornady's for general purposes and the Noslers if big bear or moose were a serious possibility. You don't need to crimp 9.3X62 loads.

One of the virtues of the 9.3's is moderate velocity, so most bullets work pretty well on most game.

I have used the 250 AccuBond and 286 Partition, plus the 250 TSX, on game more than anything else, tough have used a few of some other bullets as well, including the 232 and 286 Oryx.

The 250 AccuBond is extremely versatile I load it to around 2650 fps, which basically matches the factory .338 Winchester load. It has worked fine on African plains game out to 300+ yards and on an Alaskan grizzly at 60-75 yards. The first shot on the grizzly entered along the edge of the left shoulder and exited the right shoulder. The second shot (as the bear ran angling away) entered behind the right shoulder and ended up under the hide the neck on the far side, retaining 81% of its weight. At that the bear went down.

The 286 Partition is great on really heavy game. It has the Partition well forward so typically retains around 90% of its weight. In fact it will typically out-penetrate the 250 TSX.

The Oryxes tend to open wider than the Noslers or TSX's, so won't penetrate as deeply (especially the 232) but they sure do make a big hole.

I've heard more than one person remark that the 270 Speer can be a bit soft. I've done well with the 250 Accubond on Bison. I have a bunch of 250 TSX's and 286 Hornadys that will get used some day. Also, the 286 Lapua Mega RN which I bought when they were about 1/4 the price they are now.

husqvarna - Is there much POI difference between your 286 Hornady and the 286 partitions with Re 15? I like the versatility of using a more affordable range bullet with not much difference in grouping as a hunting load. I have settled with the 250 Accubond for most of my hunting here and will build a load in the 286 Partition for grizzly although from what I have learned here the 250 would be just fine, too. I have really enjoyed the posts guys and having a lot of fun with this 9.3.

Mine likes factory norma ammo loaded with 250 aframes but I will be loading up some 250 TSX soon.

The Hornadys and Noslers have the same exact POI with my CZ 550FS which has a short, heavy barrel. In fact all the bullets I've tried maintain a fairly close zero. I don't know if this is the result of the stiff barrel or if it is an inherent trait of medium bores. Also I'm getting good velocities from a short barrel with RL15. Your right, 9.3s are fun; mine has become my go to rifle even though I rarely hunt anything larger than deer or pigs.

320gr. woodliegh;
IMO were I to use any bullet in nine three for grizzly it would have to be the 320 woodliegh. Out penetrate anything else for sure.

I have very little experience with this caliber and have been trying the 286-gr bullets to find one my double rifle in 9.3x74 will throw together, aside from the Norma Oryxs it was regulated with.

The Oryxs are a bonded bullet and I can tell you that they worked very well on this bison taken at about 100 yds. Mz vel was about 2350 fps.



The two on the right were taken out from under the hide on the far side. I apologize for the quality of the pic's. As had been said, at the mz vel of the 9.3s (other than perhaps the x64) most bullets should work well. A double rifle just presents another predicament.

i ve always used partition 286 grains with my old 9,3x62 but other users like Yukoner use the very good 270 grains speer.
the good about 9,3x62 is the speed isnt that fast we dont need extra tough bullets.

i may add i used only this combo on caribou, black bear and eastern moose. so no grizzly nor Yukon Alaskan Moose : the eastern one on steroids lol ...!!!

Here's what a used 270 Hot Core, started out at 2600, looks like:



after hitting this, at around 40 yd.



One shot, through both lungs and smashed the off shoulder joint. Woods bison, moose, caribou, and both bears are all fair game with the Speer.

Good friend of mine whacked a huge bull moose with one at about 125 yd, straight on, bullet went through about 18" of neck muscle, proceeded to chop up three vertebrae, and lodged inside a fourth. It works just fine.

I have also shot quite a few tons, literally, of our big game with the 286 gr Norma Dual Core over the past 25 years.

Ted

arc..,

The 286gr Partition over RL 15 worked very well fo me in Africa. In one case plowing thru 4ft of wildebeast and it's grass filled paunch. It didn't exit, it didn't need to. Took 5 large critters in all.

I have used the 270gr Speer on white tails (just curious) and it slams them. They did exit, but again, didn't need to. Have some 250 grainers but haven't shot anyhthing with them yet.

Generally, my impression is the caliber is very easy to find an accurate load for and it kills much better than I expected.

O

It does seem the 9.3 is easy to load for - everything I've tried is good - some are really good but still the worse grouping was still under 2". I don't know if it is CZ or the cartridge or the reloading genies are looking out for me but I have really enjoyed the 9.3. I'm counting the days until I can put it in the field. I like the versatility of the 250 Accubond but really like the excellent accuracy of the 270 Speer. I haven't found a box of 286 Partition locally yet but will try those as well for the big brownies. Classic cartridge with an interesting history. What's not to love!

I only get about 100 fps more velocity with 250's so stuck with 286 North Forks in mine. 65 gr of Big Game will send them just a shade under 2500.

OOPS!

Just realized my two-finger hunt-and-peck typing did it again. The velocity of the Speer 270 in my 9.3X62s is 2500, not 2600.

Ted

Yukoner - Thanks for the first hand report of the Speer. I really like the Speer for accuracy - but it seems there's been some debate regarding the durability of the Speer Hot Core. I have no field experience with the Hot Cor so I appreciate hearing both sides of the argument! I have to say, though that Speer bullet just looks "right" for the old classic cartridge.