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So I don't hi jack another thread I'll start another. I'm looking for some warmish light weight clothes. Something compact so they aren't too bulking to bow hunt with. I bow hunt from October 1 through January 1. Obviously in the later months the basel layers will be thicker. But, temps can dip into the 20's in October so something fairly warm but not bulky would be best. I have wool for late season hunting but it can be a pain shooting a recurve wearing the wools. laugh
Fleece and good under garment for your torso (I have Marmot, HH and Northface). It has to be COLD for me to consider long underwear bottoms.

I like a fleece vest with windstopper, and layer accordingly over/under.
Sitka!!
Silk thermals are perfect during bow season for me
Sporthill 3SP material is amazing stuff, and fits the criteria you're looking for.
Think down or down substitute (Primalift One) for light and warm. In particular, I consider my Pattagucci "Puffball" vest to be my most cherished warmth item.

I've also fallen in love with a thin base-layer of Smart Wool as a starter for almost all outdoor pursuits.

Dave
You might start looking at backpacking clothing instead of most hunting gear. The backpacking section here on 24hr has some good ideas.
I bought a bunch of Kuiu and Firstlite wool for a Mountain goat hunt. I was very pleased.


ddj
Originally Posted by Steelhead
Fleece and good under garment for your torso (I have Marmot, HH and Northface). It has to be COLD for me to consider long underwear bottoms.

I like a fleece vest with windstopper, and layer accordingly over/under.


I generally wear a base layer and Mountain Hardwear wind stopper vest incase I need to strip down and get moving. I wear a Patagonia Nano over that for insulation and a Mountain Hardwear technical softshell if there is wind and moisture. A neck gator and windproof fleece beanie keep me snug.

Like SH said, it has to be COLD before I wear anything on my legs.
Check out KUIU's superdown, Patagonia nano or micro puff or down sweater, or Mountain Hardware's ghost whisperer.
I almost always wear a base layer, a lightweight warm one allows for less "top layers" and lighter weight. The best I have found are the Sitka core base layers warm when it's cold, yet breathes well enough to be comfortable when sun comes up.
Almost all my hunting clothes are Cabela's microtex. I also have the lightweight version which is better for earlier in the year or if you get hot easily.

Stuff wears like iron, quiet and doesnt fade.

Fleece and other layers over the top.
I have been wanting to try some other Sitka products or first lite.
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Like SH said, it has to be COLD before I wear anything on my legs.


Are you guys sitting in a tree stand or walking? OP mentioned bow hunting and that generally means sitting in stands. If I'm sitting, I have to have something extra on my legs. If I'm moving, I agree with nothing extra on the legs.

Everything that's not cammo is Patagonia for me.
I like a soft flannel union suit against the skin. It doesn't sag and gap like separates, and you can perform both bodily functions through buttoned openings.

The outer layer should be windproof such as GoreTex with knit cuffs to close around the ankles and wrists. The front should have a zipper that closes around the neck to seal in warmth but can be opened to let excess heat escape when needed. Insulation in the outer layer makes the garment warmer overall, but it also makes it thicker and heavier which limits mobility. Insulation also limits versatility in mild weather when the temperature rises during the day unless the insulating layer can be removed and stowed. My current favorite hunting jacket is Browning Polarfleece with GoreTex and 400 gram Thinsulate. My heavy coat from Cabelas is wool with their Dry Plus variation of GoreTex fabric and a removeable insulating layer. With that coat and a wool sweater I can fish on the ice in the wind all day in comfort.

For middle layers nothing beats goose down for warmth, but a good wool sweater runs a close second. My habit is to wear an orange upland hunting vest with a large game pouch to meet the orange requirement, using the game pouch for stowing layers when needed.

My current hunting boots are made by Wolverine. They are leather with GoreTex and 1200 gram Thinsulate. When ice fishing I add thick wool felt insoles and my feet stay comfy all day.

Currently, I am in need of a pair of nice, lightweight, waterproof boots for upland hunting in the fall. Problem is I can't find any that fit me because my feet are so wide. I bought a pair of Irish Setters in size 12-6E but they pinched my fat feet something fierce so I returned them. I don't know of any company that makes boots that fit me. I have considered making my own but that is easier said than done! I could have a professional make me some but the price is astounding. One guy gave me a budget quote of a thousand dollars! Any advice on this would be appreciated.

redhead,
Russell Mocassin Company sounds like just what you need for those flippers of yours.
If light weight and compact design are what you want, then look at what the mountaineering crowd uses. I got that advice from JJHack some years ago, just as I was slowly figuring that out myself.
They are years ahead of the hunting clothing makers. E
Originally Posted by BrentD
redhead,
Russell Mocassin Company sounds like just what you need for those flippers of yours.


Brent, do you wear Russell boots?
Once I figured out that keeping my neck and head warm is the best procedure I have needed far fewer clothes. I often walk 2-5 miles just to get into a hunting area. Even with temps in the teens I'll walk in just wearing 2 long sleeve fleece or polypro T-shirts, no long underwear bottoms. Once settled in a fleece facemask under a warm hat along with a primaloft jacket carried in my pack is usually all I need. If it is really cold I carry a poncho liner in my pack to wrap up my lower body. I haven't owned insulated boots in years.

You need to be shopping at REI instead of Cabelas or Bass Pro if you want warm, lightweight clothing.
I agree with the above statements about moving to backpacking type gear to shed gear weight. Sitka gear marries the lightweight/hunting gear quite well. It's not cheap, but neither is Mt. Hardwear, Arc'teryx, Patagoina, etc.
I've read comments about the Sitka gear stating " Why do I need camo long underwear?". Well if your moving and the weather is 7 when you start and 55 at 3pm, one needs to constantly shed layers.

I own some backpacking type gear and have been substituting it for my heavier camo clothing slowly over the years. I've also bought a few Sitka outerwear pieces simply b/c some things like my black Goretex jacket isn't that great at concealing my outline.

But, I typically don't even pack a jacket when its cold since I'm close enough (3 miles) from camp or a predetermined pickup spot on a road. I will if its snowing or raining. I always, always, have a warm wool hat, warm neck warmer and warm gloves. Those 3 things have saved me from freezing my tail off on days when the weather moves in unexpectedly. If I'm suspicious that it might get colder I also pack a pair polypro longjohns in case things get bad enough.

I too hold my Patagonia puff vest and pullover as my most prized hunting clothes (and general cold weather layers). Easy to pack, little weight, and warm even when damp. The fabric is slick and slips easily under other layers.

Liner socks work well and can be doubled up to resist blisters and add warmth. A second pair in the pack takes up very little space but can be really appreciated at times. I never need heavy socks.

Home Depot has $10 work gloves that are the ticket for dexterity and takes the chill off carrying a bow or rifle.

Rarely need or use long johns bottoms but silk weight capilene from Patagonia is light, slides under pants easily and can be stuffed in you pack if the day heats up. Use the tops in black as base layer in almost all situations. These can be a tick protector as well.

Add a fleece or silk neck gaiter and cabelas Perfekt boots and you got a very versatile combination. Works well with either Camo or Orange.

That's my two cents, Nick
Oh, btw, I have used this combo on drop hunts in Alaska, elk hunts in Colorado at 30 below to Pennsylvania bow and flintlock seasons. It works for me.
+1 on the comments to check out the backpacking forum. I picked up a couple pieces of Sitka, Kuiu and SmartWool merino base layers in the past year. They all seem to work well. And they are all comfortable. Much prefer the merino over the polypro (just my opinion). Big thing for me is learning to add and remove layers as the level of activity changes.

Not sure how it would work for bow hunting. But for rifle hunting, the Hill People Gear Mountain Serape makes a good "over the top" wind break, extra thermal layer while glassing or taking a break. Would probably make a good lower body wrap to keep your arms free while on stand as well. But have not used it in that manner.
The first key to actually staying warm when it is actually cold out is stopping the wind from robbing your body heat. Stop the wind with a light external layer, then build what you need for insulation under that.
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