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Posted By: T_Inman Hunting Consortium? - 05/17/13
I'm seriously considering a Kamchatka brown bear hunt through Bob Kern in 2016, and would appreciate some comments from anyone who has used him in the past. I considered Alaska too(including Phil Shoemaker) but something about hunting in the Russian far East is intriguing to me...Plus how many folks can say they've killed a great bear there?

I know Bob had some accusations of a Lacey Act violation several years ago, which he (apparently) got off easily. Boddington and Shockey also seem to endorse him, but would really like to hear first hand if you've personally used his business.

I appreciate your time.
Posted By: Oldquailhunter Re: Hunting Consortium? - 05/17/13
I think Spomer done a article on hunting bears over there in a successful hunter issue. It might be of some help to you.

Dink
Posted By: pointer Re: Hunting Consortium? - 05/17/13
No info on that booking agent or outfit. However, I'd say that the hunt you are considering would be about top of the heap for me! Mucho congrats if you can pull that off.
Posted By: test1328 Re: Hunting Consortium? - 05/17/13
Dog Hunter,
I've got a good friend that has used Bob Kern's services quite extensively. He's done Marco Polo, Mountain Nyala, Botswana, etc., all through Kern. I'm sure he would be willing to talk to you on the phone to tell you about his experiences. I'd also bet if you asked Kern for references, he'd be more than happy to share some. PM me if you want my friend's phone number. In the meantime, I'll email him to make sure he's not traveling and is willing to talk to you.

PS. I forgot to mention that the deal with Kern and the Lacey act, at least from my perspective and most others, was that it was a setup by the government looking to "hook" a big fish, someone like Kern with a big reputation. All the charges were trumped up from the get go and the Russian government even sent representatives over to testify for Kern, saying he had done nothing illegal and was only trying to help as he was instructed to do. The most amazing part about the trial was that even with all the big US government show and bias, he was found not guilty. I think only someone with the connections Kern has worldwide and the money he has would have been able to afford the representation it took to get out from under the government frame job.
Posted By: seeker Re: Hunting Consortium? - 05/18/13
I have used them on a hunt to Macedonia for sheep and ibex.
I had to cancel the trip the day before and they were great about it. Rescheduled for the next year with a small rebooking fee.
Could not have been more helpful.
Good people.
Seekr
Posted By: T_Inman Re: Hunting Consortium? - 05/19/13
Hey thanks everyone...test1328, if you don't mind please just ask your friend if he would recommend Bob Kern(which it sounds like he would given he (your friend) rebooked with Bob several times).



Posted By: huntsonora Re: Hunting Consortium? - 05/20/13
I have a friend that has used Kern that will use him again and another friend that had used Kern and won't use him again. The one that won't use him again has a good reason not to use him

Both of my friends have knowledge of the usf&w fiasco and both say he got screwed on that deal. Having heard the stories I'd agree

Whatever you decide to do just DO NOT ever consider Jeff Blair
Posted By: AndySpencer Re: Hunting Consortium? - 05/20/13
Jeff Blair's outfit use to call me all the time in college. Asked what my safari plans were, offering discount Marco Polo etc. I was broke as a joke.

I often mentioned the unguided cat squirrel spot and stalk I'd have planned in the Sam Houston National Forest.

Or the seven day low country wood duck shoot around lower Caddo lake.

Not meaning to highjack, just haven't heard that name in a while.
Posted By: test1328 Re: Hunting Consortium? - 05/20/13
Dog Hunter,
Yes, he would use him again. He always consults with him on any hunt he is considering, usually at the SCI convention.
Posted By: BlackHunter Re: Hunting Consortium? - 05/24/13
I have known Bob Kern since the mid 80's. Had a great dinner with he and his family before going on a hunt I booked with him. He is a retired Army helicopter pilot. He is first rate - a man of his word. I have booked hunts with him in Turkey, England and Belgium. All have been first class adventures. He is detail oriented as any good pilot should be - and this results in a better hunting experience. You will not go wrong by booking with him.
Posted By: BlackHunter Re: Hunting Consortium? - 05/24/13
On the Lacey Act issue. As I recall the legal defense cost Bob more than half a million dollars. Reports from several sources I trust indicate that this all got started by a competitor over a professional jealousy. The Russian wildlife official that was involved in the supposed violation flew over to the US and testified on Bob's behalf. Bob was offered a deal by the US government to plead guilty but he refused saying that no violation occurred. Bob won and was declared innocent. Like I said in my earlier post I've known Bob since the '80's long before he was booking Weatherby Award winners. Book with confidence you will not regret it. Feel free to PM me.
Posted By: huntsonora Re: Hunting Consortium? - 05/24/13
Originally Posted by BlackHunter
Like I said in my earlier post I've known Bob since the '80's long before he was booking Weatherby Award winners. Book with confidence you will not regret it.


Funny you say this. He booked a "Weatherby Award" winner on one of the worst hunts he'd ever been on a couple of years ago but in his defense he refunded him the money. I told the guy before he booked not to do it. I have hunted with this particular hunter for parts of 3 different decades and consider him a dear friend. When he told me what Bob told him about the hunt and how it was advertised I about fell over. The "best, most experienced" with the "best ranches" blah blah blah. I like the outfitter as a friend but what I consider a disaster he considers a minor hiccup. As for "most experienced", I helped the guy find and lease ranches a number of years ago

What I'm saying is, don't trust everything Bob sells you. Take it as a recommendation and do some research on it yourself
Posted By: moosemike Re: Hunting Consortium? - 05/24/13
I've often thought if I ever get the chance to go Brown Bear hunting it would be in Kamchatka. Something about taking a Brown Bear in Russia that just sits right with me for some reason.
Posted By: StrayDog Re: Hunting Consortium? - 06/04/13
If you have not yet paid a deposit you may want to check out an outfitter headquartered in Edmonton, Alberta. Ameri-Cana Expeditions. I have hunted mule deer with them and learned they do very well on Kamchatka bear and Asian mountain sheep.




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