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Had this theoretical discussion many times with guys at the range.

A couple buddies always say, ONE bullet. Usually a 130 or 150 gr. Partition. We all shoot Model 70s with 24" barrels.

Others say to use the 270 Win. cartridge to it's potential, you need to build a load for that specific hunt, example:
  • Hunting Pronghorn/Coues deer: 85 gr E-tip @3726 FPS
  • Hunting Mule Deer/Caribou/Sheep/Black Bear/Goats: 129 gr. LRX or 130 Gr. TTSX @3150fps
  • Hunting Moose/Grizzly: 150 gr A-Frame, NorthFork or Partition @2986 FPS
What would you do? Do you just hunt with one load for all? If so, what is your ONE Bullet for the great 270 Winchester (WCF)?

I'm leaning to a 140 Gr. as an all-rounder. I just wish that the 140 gr TSX or the 140 gr. Partition had better B.C.s, both shoot very well in my rifle but the 129 gr. LRX overtakes both after about 225 yards.




AZ clues and antelope can take long shots, for me 400 is not unusual. Wind is always more important than range which is easy now with lasers. I have experience with Nosler Accubond and Barnes TTSX but not e-tip. As an example with the Accubond, at the velocities I get the 10 mph drift at 400 is reduced by 3" going from 100gr to 140gr which to me is a material improvement when I am guessing what the wind is doing across a canyon or out there in the grasslands. I would not even look at an 85 gr for long shots should you need one.
I would not hunt Moose/Grizzly with a 270.
130 TTSX and roll on. That bullet will retain more weight after penetrating a critter than a Partition. If it wont shoot go with a 140 Partition. B.C. wont matter too m+ yards.
130 gr Nosler Partition.
Originally Posted by John_Gregori
Had this theoretical discussion many times with guys at the range.

A couple buddies always say, ONE bullet. Usually a 130 or 150 gr. Partition. We all shoot Model 70s with 24" barrels.

Others say to use the 270 Win. cartridge to it's potential, you need to build a load for that specific hunt, example:
  • Hunting Pronghorn/Coues deer: 85 gr E-tip @3726 FPS
  • Hunting Mule Deer/Caribou/Sheep/Black Bear/Goats: 129 gr. LRX or 130 Gr. TTSX @3150fps
  • Hunting Moose/Grizzly: 150 gr A-Frame, NorthFork or Partition @2986 FPS
What would you do? Do you just hunt with one load for all? If so, what is your ONE Bullet for the great 270 Winchester (WCF)?

I'm leaning to a 140 Gr. as an all-rounder. I just wish that the 140 gr TSX or the 140 gr. Partition had better B.C.s, both shoot very well in my rifle but the 129 gr. LRX overtakes both after about 225 yards.






Starting over, I wouldn't hesitate to use any of those mentioned except the 85 gr.. Add the 130 Partition to the mix.

I have plenty of 130 gr BBC's so really don't have any need for any of the others though.
Only one. I think the 130 grain is an ideal match for the 270; but, I would and have chosen a 140 grain Partition for everything with my 270 (my son's is 130 for all, go figure).
Originally Posted by John_Gregori
Had this theoretical discussion many times with guys at the range.

A couple buddies always say, ONE bullet. Usually a 130 or 150 gr. Partition. We all shoot Model 70s with 24" barrels.

Others say to use the 270 Win. cartridge to it's potential, you need to build a load for that specific hunt, example:
  • Hunting Pronghorn/Coues deer: 85 gr E-tip @3726 FPS
  • Hunting Mule Deer/Caribou/Sheep/Black Bear/Goats: 129 gr. LRX or 130 Gr. TTSX @3150fps
  • Hunting Moose/Grizzly: 150 gr A-Frame, NorthFork or Partition @2986 FPS
What would you do? Do you just hunt with one load for all? If so, what is your ONE Bullet for the great 270 Winchester (WCF)?

I'm leaning to a 140 Gr. as an all-rounder. I just wish that the 140 gr TSX or the 140 gr. Partition had better B.C.s, both shoot very well in my rifle but the 129 gr. LRX overtakes both after about 225 yards.



For a one bullet load I would look at the 140 gr Accubond. For two bullets I like the 150 gr Ballistic Tip paired with a 160 gr Partition. I like your 3 loads listed since it is fun to experiment and come up with the "perfect" load. That 85 gr E Tip load is a screamer.....
I sorta did the same thing Gerry mentioned with my 270 WSM. I run the exact load with the 150 PT and BT's. They both shoot really well and within an inch of one another at 300 yards. I also lucked into a decent bunch of 150 BBC's that shoot into the same group as the 150 PT's, so I have a 3rd bullet. All 150's at 3150 or so. It makes me happy.
I have settled on the 140 gr Accubond for everything in both my 270 and my 270Wizzum. Everything I've shot with that caliber & bullet was DRT. Whitetails, muleys, coyotes, speed-goats, hogs, turkeys (headshots), p-dogs... any & all targets of opportunity.

If I had to go unleaded, I'd go with a 130 gr TTSX, but I have a lifetime supply of 140 gr AB's. So unless the law forces me I'm not going there.
You won't need to roll your own if the 130 grain Winchester/Olin Power-Max Bonded factory loads are accurate in your rifle. This bullet shoots great in my CLR and Remington 760, so I consider if my go to 270 elk load.
Originally Posted by beretzs
I sorta did the same thing Gerry mentioned with my 270 WSM. I run the exact load with the 150 PT and BT's. They both shoot really well and within an inch of one another at 300 yards. I also lucked into a decent bunch of 150 BBC's that shoot into the same group as the 150 PT's, so I have a 3rd bullet. All 150's at 3150 or so. It makes me happy.


I miss my 270 but will get another one soon. It's too good of a round not to have in the fold.

I could see someone also using a 130 gr TTSX, 129 gr LRX or E Tip as an all around load and be happy.
I guess I would fall into the 2 bullet camp.

130/140gr Accubonds for Antelope to Caribou size animals

150gr NP for the bigger stuff.
A 129gr LRX or 130gr TTSX at 3,150fps will do most everything in the America's,and most of the world as well.

I've used Barnes since 1992, in everything from a 22 Hornet to 300 Weatherby. Great bullets!
I have two 270's but only shoot one bullet/load combo in each. One gets the 130 TTSX and the other the 150 Partition, mainly because those combos shoot well in those rifles.
I've used the 140gr Accubond quite a bit in the 270 WCF and really like that load for deer and sheep. I've also used the 140gr. TSX, specifically for mountain goats who have a much larger bone structure than deer and sheep, so I appreciated the insurance. I don't think I would have a problem hunting elk with either of those bullets, although I would probably go with the TSX if I had the choice. I always did want to get a load worked up for the 150gr. Partition, but never really saw the need with the TSX load. My 270 WSM really likes the 130gr. Partition, but not the 140gr. Accubond. I think I'd like to try the 140gr. TSX or the 150gr. Partition in that if I was going to use it for elk, but I never have taken the time since I've got other rifles in larger calibers for that.
My son's, Dad and I have killed critters with 85gr TSX through 150gr NPT and most in between.

Any more, I pick a 130gr GMX, TSX, TTSX, NBT or Hornady IL. Always in the ammo cabinet loaded over 60gr of H4831sc and go hunting.
Originally Posted by gerrygoat


For a one bullet load I would look at the 140 gr Accubond. For two bullets I like the 150 gr Ballistic Tip paired with a 160 gr Partition. I like your 3 loads listed since it is fun to experiment and come up with the "perfect" load. That 85 gr E Tip load is a screamer.....


I shoot more than one, but I could settle on a 140 NAB. It can do it all IME, and all three of my 270s like 'em.
My ADL and Montana both shoot well with 58.5-59 grains of H4831sc and 140 AB's.

135 SMK's matched up perfectly in the ADL but shot like chit in the MT.
I started using the .270 in 1974, and my wife Eileen started using one in 1985. Between us we've used the following bullets on big game:

130-grain Barnes TSX, Hornady Interlock Spire Point, Nosler Partition and Solid Base, Remington Core-Lokt, Sierra GameKing

140-grain Barnes TSX, Nosler AccuBond and Ballistic Tip

150-grain Hornady Interlock Spire Point, Nosler Partition, Speer Grand Slam, Winchester Power-Point

Generally we've ended up using two bullets in each rifle, one a cup-and-core for sighting-in, practice and deer-sized game, and a tougher bullet for game larger than deer, handloaded so they'll land in the same place at 100 yards. The exception was the NULA .270 Eileen shot for a while, in which she used the 130-grain Nosler Partition for everything until the Barnes TSX appeared. Around that time she bought a NULA in .257 Roberts for deer-sized game, and only used the .270 with TSX's for larger stuff.

None of those bullets failed on any sort of animal, with the exception of an early Speer Grand Slam which came apart on an elk. Later Grand Slams were tougher and worked fine, about like Nosler Partitions.

The TSX's have worked great on game from elk on up, including a cow bison Eileen killed, but the Partitions also worked fine, especially the 150, which she used to on elk and a bull moose. Have also seen both TSX's and Partitions work fine on similar-sized African game.

When Eileen's only centerfire rifle was a .270 I worked up a three-bullet system, with 90-grain Sierra hollow-points for varmints, 130 Interlocks for antelope and deer, and 150 Partitions for bigger stuff. But once she acquired a few more rifles, she only used her .270 as her "big" rifle, for elk and larger game.
Originally Posted by beretzs
I sorta did the same thing Gerry mentioned with my 270 WSM. I run the exact load with the 150 PT and BT's. They both shoot really well and within an inch of one another at 300 yards. I also lucked into a decent bunch of 150 BBC's that shoot into the same group as the 150 PT's, so I have a 3rd bullet. All 150's at 3150 or so. It makes me happy.



Being very new to the 270 win, I settled on the 150gr. nosler partition as my do everything bullet. They shoot great out of my old model 70 too.
I would just load a 130 gr TTSX or 140 gr Accubond and use that load for everything
I've settled on the 130gr. TTSX with 54gr.of IMR-4350 as a do it all load for my daughters model 700. Shoots around an inch and is flat enough for her/my range limit for her of 300yds. Now she just needs to draw the tags and go kill stuff!

Elk Country
Pretty much use a 130 grain of several makes for most .270 use.

There is also a 150 PT load that shoots close enough at 100 yds if Elk are the main objective.H4831 works so well I didn't try anything else.

The .270 is one that seems easy to get multiple loads to shoot with the same sight setting. Most .270 bullets were designed primarily for the Winchester round back before we had the other 270s so most bullets perform well. For me just depends on whats on sale. I am using accubonds now and not sure what it will be when those run out.

The .270 wsm gets 140 gr. interbonds and tsx's currently over R25.
I have used the .270 on numerous mule deer, couple elk, couple bear, antelope, and shiras moose. 130 grain nosler partition at 3150 FPS has been the answer out to 400 yards. Only 1 tough 5 point bull elk needed 2 shots, but was dead where he stood after the first one hit him.

I understand the 270 not being the first choice for big bears up north, but anyone claiming they would never use it on a moose, makes me laugh...
Living in Commiefornia where lead is taboo I feed mine 130TTSX. Can't imagine a hunt anywhere in the world for any game where it wouldn't do the trick as long as it is accurate in your rifle.
Use one bullet, the Barnes 129 LRX.

If for some reason that wouldn't work, then the Nosler Accubond 140.
My pick would be a 130 part, 140 Accubond, 130 Sierra for practice and varmint!,
I haven't used nearly as many bullets as others, but if I wanted to stay with one weight and brand it will be the 150gr partition. If a second bullet is possible, I'd substitute the Sierra 150 for steel and maybe deer and such because it's some cheaper and for me shoots to the same POI.
Hey John. I too think that the 140gr boolets are the cats ass when it comes to the 270. Any ballistics table will show this. Myself, I shoot Hornady BTSP or the SST for deer. Nosler does have the 140gr Accubond which would probably work pretty good and does have a high BC.
I wish Swift would make their Scirocco in 140gr instead of the 130gr they offer. That bullet is hard to beat.
Cheers
Used to be a 130 gr Partition guy. More recently the 140 gr TSX flies and I don't see that changing.
I'm a one bullet per cartridge guy. I find the idea of different bullets for different game (aka, the golf bag approach) a bit naive.

For me, any decent 130, 140, or 150 grainer is the answer for all game with the 270.

Forced to one, the 140 NAB, 140 NP or 150 NP... whichever shoots best.

I use one weight in every cartridge I use. For both my 270 and 270 Weatherby get fed 150gr Partitions.
Have used 140gr Accubonds in the above, too, but, they were quite hard on small deer.
I never had good luck with Barnes bullets, so if that's your choice, I would choose something in the 100gr-130gr weight.

Cheers.
The 130 NP is the ticket for mid size stuff and the 150 NP for bigger things.
Usually shoot to near same poi.
Kill like crazy.
Can work up loads and practice with BTs or SBs (if you can find them). Just drop your powder load 1/2 grain for the NPs.

If the bc for partitions is a real issue with you, you need to learn to actually get close to animals. Something of an old saying about ---Its not how far you shoot, but how close you can get.----that is more relative to true hunting.

jmho
Tim
Originally Posted by Brad
I'm a one bullet per cartridge guy. I find the idea of different bullets for different game (aka, the golf bag approach) a bit naive.





I really do try to stick to this. Of course it isn't always easy.... smile
I'm a 1 bullet type guy for my 270 when it comes to hunting.

Right now that 1 bullet is the 140 AB and I've used it exclusively for the past 10 years or so. Darn fine performance on targets and game.

The 15-20 years before the AB, 150 Partitions rode in magazine. Darn good bullet also.
The 140 AB is a damn good combo in the 270. My favorite. Works great out to longer ranges and hits hard.
I've used the 140 NBT a fair bit in the 270 with excellent results. I'm looking forward to using the 140 NAB in the coming years in my two 270's. I doubt I'll be disappointed.
I'm using 130 grain ttsx's in my 270 win and 129 lrx's in my 270 wsm.

130 gr. Handload with the most accurate bullet in your Rifle,never look back... ScottyO.
Originally Posted by BobinNH
Originally Posted by Brad
I'm a one bullet per cartridge guy. I find the idea of different bullets for different game (aka, the golf bag approach) a bit naive.





I really do try to stick to this. Of course it isn't always easy.... smile



The only reason is shoot more than 1 bullet in a rifle is just because I hate 'wasting' high dollar bullets on steel plates.

But anymore I really don't shoot enough that it's an issue. That and as the safe count grows it's getting hard to keep chit straight....grin

Have another order of 140 AB's en route, 300-400 should last me a year(or more) of practicing with that particular rifle.
Ha! Sam I agree. You go broke practicing with hunting bullets.

I shoot Sierra's mostly for making holes in paper!
So have we discovered Sierra's marketing strategy?

Make cheap, crappy hunting Bullets that hunters will shoot in high volume for practice , and let the other bullet makers fight over the low volume expensive hunting bullet market. 😃
southtexas: Sierra's show up at our club on pallets.... grin


BTW I have used the 130-270 and 150-30 for hunting.
Originally Posted by BobinNH
I have used the 130-270 and 150-30 for hunting.


You mean they actually WORK??
150 gr Partitions to 2950 fps with RL-22 will do anything, plus I bet a whole lot more than I will ever ask a 270 Winchester to do.
Originally Posted by southtexas
So have we discovered Sierra's marketing strategy?

Make cheap, crappy hunting Bullets that hunters will shoot in high volume for practice , and let the other bullet makers fight over the low volume expensive hunting bullet market. 😃



Oh, well, okay. It's nice to know that Sierra HAS a strategy. smirk

In the 70's I tested ALL the non-premium bullets available to the G P. I used more media (mediumS) than I can recall now.

In the 80s I got Bob Hagel's book G L & P B.. and found that he WROTE (put in print) exactly what my tests revealed.

Now I find out that Sierra HAD a strategy all along. grin


Jerry
I'm starting over with a "new" 1948 FN, after 30-some years of using a pre-64. If it'll shoot 'em, I'll be using the 160gr NPs, just 'cause I like how they look.

Sam, Have you ever tried the 140 NBT as a cheaper practice bullet than the 140 AB? I use the 140 NBT's for practice and the POI is exactly the same as the 140 AB's in my 270. Like you said, it's nice to save some money when a just wanting to burn powder and lead.

Originally Posted by SamOlson
Originally Posted by BobinNH
Originally Posted by Brad
I'm a one bullet per cartridge guy. I find the idea of different bullets for different game (aka, the golf bag approach) a bit naive.





I really do try to stick to this. Of course it isn't always easy.... smile



The only reason is shoot more than 1 bullet in a rifle is just because I hate 'wasting' high dollar bullets on steel plates.

But anymore I really don't shoot enough that it's an issue. That and as the safe count grows it's getting hard to keep chit straight....grin

Have another order of 140 AB's en route, 300-400 should last me a year(or more) of practicing with that particular rifle.


I've always paired a cheaper practice bullet with a "premium"... I was just talking about "hunting" not plinking.

Yeah Sam, I ordered a pile of the 140 NAB 2nds yesterday.
A 110g GS-HV at almost 3400 fps will do it all.
Second pick would be the 130g TTSX.
Which ever one shoots the best.
All done.

dave
Originally Posted by southtexas
Originally Posted by BobinNH
I have used the 130-270 and 150-30 for hunting.


You mean they actually WORK??



Here and there..... grin
Oops, posted in the wrong thread. I meant to click on the 30-06 and instead got the .270 thread. Cosmic implications I suspect... cool

140 grain Fail Safe. Down to my last couple of boxes. Discontinued several years ago. Hasbeen
I still have two boxes of 140 gr. TBBC Federal "High Energy" pushing the bullets out at 3,100 FPS. It's an absolute killer.
I use one bullet for everything, in my .270 WSM, that being the Nosler E-Tip, 130 gr. I use it over the Barnes, because of its significantly higher BC (.459), and the fact that it can be pushed both fast (3300 fps MV) and with sub-MOA accuracy.

IMO, the 'one-bullet' advantage is one of simplicity, and cost- handload for one bullet, with one proven powder, and sight-in data easy enough to remember.
150 Hornady SP has done all I want.
Originally Posted by John_Gregori
Had this theoretical discussion many times with guys at the range.

A couple buddies always say, ONE bullet. Usually a 130 or 150 gr. Partition. We all shoot Model 70s with 24" barrels.

Others say to use the 270 Win. cartridge to it's potential, you need to build a load for that specific hunt, example:
  • Hunting Pronghorn/Coues deer: 85 gr E-tip @3726 FPS
  • Hunting Mule Deer/Caribou/Sheep/Black Bear/Goats: 129 gr. LRX or 130 Gr. TTSX @3150fps
  • Hunting Moose/Grizzly: 150 gr A-Frame, NorthFork or Partition @2986 FPS
What would you do? Do you just hunt with one load for all? If so, what is your ONE Bullet for the great 270 Winchester (WCF)?


I'm leaning to a 140 Gr. as an all-rounder. I just wish that the 140 gr TSX or the 140 gr. Partition had better B.C.s, both shoot very well in my rifle but the 129 gr. LRX overtakes both after about 225 yards.

I guess I did it all wrong. I used three different bullets for the 270 in three different rifles.
1) Pre 64 Model 70 Featherweight-150 grain Nosler Partition. Just because.
2) Early Model 70 Classic w/Lilja FW contour 23" barrel-140 grain Swift A Frame. Ya I know it's kind of redundant with #1 but that's OK
3) Early Model 70 Classic w/Hart 23" barrel-130 grain Barnes TTSX.

The reasons for three different 270 rifles being:
1) Too lazy to sight in different bullets and make scope adjustments, just grab and go.
2) Could be a 270 addict.
3) Possible rifle loony.


for years i've used 150gr partitions (over imr4350) for hogs, deer and elk. they have always worked well.
I used a variety of bullets in my 270 until my oldest son began hunting at 14, and I switched to 130 nosler partition because it would expand at low velocity in the reduced loads he used. That bullet at reduced velocity was dramatic in its killing ability. That was 24 years ago and we haven't switched bullets in the 270. I believe that every thing we have shot with the 270 since that time has been DRT. I did, prior to that use 150 gr winchester power point and it was also very good in full power loads. I only recovered one, all the rest pass thru. The one I recovered weighed 141 gr and a perfect mushroom.
Right now I'm focused on the 129 LRX and 150 NP.
Trying to make up my mind for a CDS dial.

RL26
Norma MRP
780 Win Supreme

All three powders loading book loads will give me just over 3,000 mv with 150's out of a 22" barrel 700 Ti.

From some limited testing in dry print, the LRX gives TBBC like performance.

I also really like the 160 NP at 2,900 mv using the above powders. It shoots flatter than it looks and is a great
penetrator mimicking the 28/175 and 30/200 NP's in 06 based cases.

And my first 270 was bought in 1974 from the Rifle Ranch in Prescott, AZ.
I killed everything with Sierra bullets then.











I'm concentrating on the same bullets. At the moment I'm shooting 150 NP - and may not go beyond them as they are grouping good in my Kimber at 2950 or so. I have a CDS scope on the rifle and will program it to whichever bullet I choose.

I've been running some tried and true, H 4831, IMR 7828, some new IMR 7977, 4955, and a couple non-traditional 270 powders, H1000, Magnum. My gun likes H4831 and H1000 so far clocking at ~ 2950 for both in Montana. H1000 is the surprise to me. I've never seen it listed as anyone's go-to load. Admittedly I use a drop tube to get 61/2 grains in the case but it works fine. I'm also trying H4831, H1000, Magnum with both WLR and WLRM primers this weekend to see if that does anything.

I'd be curious how your loads work out with the 2 bullets in question.
I shoot which ever bullet performs best in each 270 Win rifle. One rifle shoots 120 SST accurately and this is the rifle used for DEER. The Remington 700 shoots most bullets satisfactory but is now loaded with Hornady 140gr BTSP. If I had to choose just one rifle and one load it would be older model Remington 700 hand loaded with 140 gr boat tail soft point bullets from Hornady in front of H4831sc powder.
Originally Posted by bwinters
I'm concentrating on the same bullets. At the moment I'm shooting 150 NP - and may not go beyond them as they are grouping good in my Kimber at 2950 or so. I have a CDS scope on the rifle and will program it to whichever bullet I choose.

I've been running some tried and true, H 4831, IMR 7828, some new IMR 7977, 4955, and a couple non-traditional 270 powders, H1000, Magnum. My gun likes H4831 and H1000 so far clocking at ~ 2950 for both in Montana. H1000 is the surprise to me. I've never seen it listed as anyone's go-to load. Admittedly I use a drop tube to get 61/2 grains in the case but it works fine. I'm also trying H4831, H1000, Magnum with both WLR and WLRM primers this weekend to see if that does anything.

I'd be curious how your loads work out with the 2 bullets in question.


What's your H4831 / 150 NP load?
The one I got from you.....<G>

58 grains H4831 seated 0.020 off L&G fired by a WLR. Trying some WLRM in the next few days to see if anything changes.
Originally Posted by SU35
Right now I'm focused on the 129 LRX and 150 NP.
Trying to make up my mind for a CDS dial.

RL26
Norma MRP
780 Win Supreme

All three powders loading book loads will give me just over 3,000 mv with 150's out of a 22" barrel 700 Ti.

From some limited testing in dry print, the LRX gives TBBC like performance.

I also really like the 160 NP at 2,900 mv using the above powders. It shoots flatter than it looks and is a great
penetrator mimicking the 28/175 and 30/200 NP's in 06 based cases.

And my first 270 was bought in 1974 from the Rifle Ranch in Prescott, AZ.
I killed everything with Sierra bullets then.


If I remember right I thought you were a big fan of the 110 gr TTSX over the heavier bullets. Like I mentioned earlier in the thread I'm a big fan of the 160 gr Partition, the 129 gr LRX sounds like a good one too......
Let us know how the loads go with IMR 7977, 4955. I'm tempted to buy and try one or both. I've got some 4451 I'll try buy it looks to be best for 130s. Thanks!
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If I remember right I thought you were a big fan of the 110 gr TTSX over the heavier bullets. Like I mentioned earlier in the thread I'm a big fan of the 160 gr Partition, the 129 gr LRX sounds like a good one too......


I've played with 110 AB's and sold the 25-06 as why should I be redundant.

For longer ranges and dialing I like the heavier bullets.
Flat line shooting and no dialing the lighters.

The 160 is still on my list for sure. Really like it! I think its overlooked.

130 grain TSX and a heavy dose of RL-19. Super accurate and will better the velocity of any of 4831's. Might be temperature sensitive, but I haven't notice down here in SE Texas its always Hot or very Hot here.

TEXMAG
140gr Nosler Accubond will do it all!
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