if you close encounter mad big Black Bear what you will do?
just to start - close considered = 30 m or less - will not shoot from any gun (its slow bleeding will let it to mess me up before it colapse) - will use Bear spray and when come back direct toward me will shoot before it close c.40-45 m, just beside head into shoulder - will use Bear stick (long stick 1.5 m with big nail, 6") to fight it off - Bear spray is big, heavy, slow, do you carry it?
The last thing I want to rely on in an attack situation is a stick with a nail in it.A good sidearm, rilfe or shotgun is your best option. I got charged once, and it ain't a whole lot of fun. One gains a lot of respect and appreciation for how fast a pissed off sow protecting her cubs can move. At close quarters, you'll be hard pressed to get a gun up in time to defend your self anyways, but that's still your best chance. A stick with a nail? Seriously?
if you close encounter mad big Black Bear what you will do?
just to start - close considered = 30 m or less - will not shoot from any gun (its slow bleeding will let it to mess me up before it colapse) - will use Bear spray and when come back direct toward me will shoot before it close c.40-45 m, just beside head into shoulder - will use Bear stick (long stick 1.5 m with big nail, 6") to fight it off - Bear spray is big, heavy, slow, do you carry it?
Wow...do you stay awake at night pondering this schitt?
My head hurts just trying to decipher that grammar.
i thought maybe it was Gus under a sock puppet!
just to start - close considered = 30 m or less 30 METERS IS NOT CLOSE - will not shoot from any gun (its slow bleeding will let it to mess me up before it colapse) HEAD OR SHOULDER SHOT - will use Bear spray and when come back direct toward me will shoot before it close c.40-45 m, just beside head into shoulder HIT WITH BEAR SPRAY IT GENERALLY WONT COME BACK, IF IT IS DETERRED AT ALL - will use Bear stick (long stick 1.5 m with big nail, 6") to fight it off DUMBER THAN WHATEVER! - Bear spray is big, heavy, slow, do you carry it? YES I CARRY, BOTH SPRAY AND SIDE ARM . SPRAY IS LIGHTER THAN THE SIDE ARM.
if you close encounter mad big Black Bear what you will do?
just to start - close considered = 30 m or less - will not shoot from any gun (its slow bleeding will let it to mess me up before it colapse) - will use Bear spray and when come back direct toward me will shoot before it close c.40-45 m, just beside head into shoulder - will use Bear stick (long stick 1.5 m with big nail, 6") to fight it off - Bear spray is big, heavy, slow, do you carry it?
Myyoukon, it really depends on the circumstances. If he comes at me on his hind legs and doesn’t stop, I’ll go for a head and arm!! If he comes on his hind legs and slows before contact, I’ll either shoot a double leg, or perhaps a high C, maybe even a fireman’s carry.
Now, if he comes on all 4’s, go straight guillionteen!!! Sink that sumbitch in til he taps!!!
Such a question posed by this Yukon man (of obvious deep experience) is vital to every sportsman, so we should go easy with the comments. After all, you may be the one who encounters a grizzly with a can opener in your hand. The kind of can opener we chose suddenly becomes important.
In a tale previously posted, with one bear among those encountered closer than 30 yards I whacked him in the chest with a bag of garbage as he reared up on his hind legs. Very effective. He ran.
Oops. My bad, very bad. For curiosity I looked up several previous posts by MyYukon. I truly apologize for making any reply to one of his posts.
Anytime you find a bear inside your self proclaimed 30m safe zone the first thing you should do is have a hit from your meth pipe. You obviously have one and you’ll know what you have to do after your use it.
It’s hard to tell who’s more stupid...Yukon, or me for reading his post thinking there’s a “clue” somewhere in his writing that will reveal itself to me and a deeper meaning that should enlighten us....I'am always left feeling dumber than I was. 😎
jackmountain, did you know that the 4th highest (? something like that) peak in Washington State is called Jack Mountain? It has some goats on it, some black bear, and surprisingly few deer but my son and I have enjoyed hunting it. Nice backpack hunting (though steep long approach hike) with little need to get hands dirty skinning nor packing out heavy loads! The slopes above timberline are gorgeous in the September high buck season and are loaded with huckleberries. I packed a reflector oven and all the fixins for huckleberry pie up there one time, fabulous pie. Too many miles of hike to pick berries for the freezer.
From what I have read or heard directly from people who have been attacked.
Trying to club to death, even a small black bear that has its leg in a hold trap is a mistake.
If a bear charges at close range, unless you are already in a position to pull the trigger, it will get to you before you get your gun up.
Carry a rifle of suitable power (or a shotgun loaded with 00s), and have a pistol securely strapped to your body for use when the bear knocks your rifle/shotgun away and starts mauling you.
BOTTOM LINE: Somedays you eat the bear, and somedays the bear eats you.
Jack Mountain is 14th highest peak in Washington State.
Hey, I got something right and got the number 4 in there! I think I got mixed up with Glacier Peak, where we have also done some hiking/climbing but am not going to bother to check.
Added later: Thanks for checking and correcting that. I sure had it wrong in my mind.
BOTTOM LINE: Somedays you eat the bear, and somedays the bear eats you.
BH63
That'd be the last thing I'd do, let a bear eat me.
Smoke...No Schit! I go bear prepared whenever I’m doing non-hunting activities in the woods...Our bears are out and about and hungry. Tomorrow, is some range time fun for me...And my Ruger 5.5” Redhawk in 44 mag, spinning “Grizzly Cartridge Co. 300grainers @ 1325 FPS makes me happy...😎
I think being mauled to death and consumed after a gallant effort is a Nobel way for a Sportsman to go.
That’s my thinking too. Though I must say, since my encounter with a mama and cubs at 35 yards or so last summer, I don’t go back without a 30-30 or 12ga w/ buckshot. At the very least I take my revolver or machete.
Might give the bear a head start though, claw marks across my chest would look pretty cool I think.
Well, one time when there was a black bear maybe 12 inches off the .375 muzzle, I just jabbed it at him. He left.
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Had a Black Bear at 3 feet once while holding nothing but a .38 filled with snake shot. The good news was that I woke him from a nap and as soon as he saw what it was that woks he he took off like a shot!
My set up was in a CRP field and I saw this critter moving towards me to my left, did not think it was a bear, rather maybe a hog. When it got within a few feet from me I stood up with cell phone in my left hand and 12 gauge in my right. The bear did a loud "huff" sound and crow hopped away from me and I snapped a photo just as he turned his head to get a look at me. Then he skedaddled.
I live in black bear country so if in the woods I have a weapon with me . and if a bear is a problem ever its called SSS that's how its handled. best gun is still just a old 12 gauge with slugs knocks a bear down and dead quickly
I'd been out all day once, took a break and sat down with my back to a tree. Heard some rustling above, looked up, and there's a black bear looking right down at me. That's a surprise!
As I quickly assessed my situation and options, I realized that I had just one shot left - so I drank it, threw the empty bottle at the bear, and ran like hell!
I'd been out all day once, took a break and sat down with my back to a tree. Heard some rustling above, looked up, and there's a black bear looking right down at me. That's a surprise!
As I quickly assessed my situation and options, I realized that I had just one shot left - so I drank it, threw the empty bottle at the bear, and ran like hell!
Then as I think about it a little, maybe that was the time I fell asleep next to the wood stove in camp after happy hour and woke up startled.
Either way, I'm pretty sure whisky was involved and the bear was damn close!
Internet forums are hardly the place for the coulrophobic.
Well I don't know why I came here tonight, I got the feeling that something ain't right, I'm so scared in case I fall off my chair, And I'm wondering how I'll get down the stairs, Clowns to the left of me, Jokers to the right, here I am, Stuck in the middle with you
I'd been out all day once, took a break and sat down with my back to a tree. Heard some rustling above, looked up, and there's a black bear looking right down at me. That's a surprise!
As I quickly assessed my situation and options, I realized that I had just one shot left - so I drank it, threw the empty bottle at the bear, and ran like hell!
Then as I think about it a little, maybe that was the time I fell asleep next to the wood stove in camp after happy hour and woke up startled.
Either way, I'm pretty sure whisky was involved and the bear was damn close!
Sometimes you eat the wood stove, sometimes the wood stove eats you.......
All the years that I have been hunting and camping I have never had what I consider a problem. Seen plenty of them, even sows with cubs. No charges. On 2 occasions had a brown bear walk right through camp. .Tense situation but no problem.
2 years ago though I was camped and scouting for high country Mule deer in N Colorado. Had my beagle with me and in the evening when I was about 1/4 mile from my camp ate a mountain house and fed the Dog.
I have a Hilleberge one man tent and since it was a warm night I left the front open about 1/4. Beagle was sleeping at my feet. My handgun was next to my head. About 12:00 I woke up and a black bear was snuffing my face. His nose actually touched my face. I made some kind of sound, dog woke up and ran over me and the bear took off with the beagle chasing him. fortunately the beagle came back shortly.
It was a long night after that. I thought I heard him a couple of times, and the beagle barked but never saw him again. I thought about bringing my handgun in my bag as its almost impossible to get to once your in the bag, but I didn't want to risk having a dream and blowing my nuts off.
All the years that I have been hunting and camping I have never had what I consider a problem. Seen plenty of them, even sows with cubs. No charges. On 2 occasions had a brown bear walk right through camp. .Tense situation but no problem.
2 years ago though I was camped and scouting for high country Mule deer in N Colorado. Had my beagle with me and in the evening when I was about 1/4 mile from my camp ate a mountain house and fed the Dog.
I have a Hilleberge one man tent and since it was a warm night I left the front open about 1/4. Beagle was sleeping at my feet. My handgun was next to my head. About 12:00 I woke up and a black bear was snuffing my face. His nose actually touched my face. I made some kind of sound, dog woke up and ran over me and the bear took off with the beagle chasing him. fortunately the beagle came back shortly.
It was a long night after that. I thought I heard him a couple of times, and the beagle barked but never saw him again. I thought about bringing my handgun in my bag as its almost impossible to get to once your in the bag, but I didn't want to risk having a dream and blowing my nuts off.
Pretty much a bear taco inside a bag.
lefty C
Wrapped for individual consumption! Glad it worked out ok, some folks are not so lucky.
Read an interesting article the other day chronicling the history of death by grizzly bears in Montana. The total deaths was around the mid 30 range. The really surprising thing was how many attacked campers in tents. I know certain campgrounds have hard sided camper rules only, kinda makes a fella think twice about pitchin a tent in a high grizzly density area?
My neighbor spotted a griz on the hill behind the house the other day and has another on a trail camera. Guess I should pack when I go out in the yard?
Read an interesting article the other day chronicling the history of death by grizzly bears in Montana. The total deaths was around the mid 30 range. The really surprising thing was how many attacked campers in tents. I know certain campgrounds have hard sided camper rules only, kinda makes a fella think twice about pitchin a tent in a high grizzly density area?
My neighbor spotted a griz on the hill behind the house the other day and has another on a trail camera. Guess I should pack when I go out in the yard?
Closest encounter: I once peered into rotted out hole at the base of a stump while elk hunting above timberline. At a distance of around three feet I realized there was moving bear therein. The first revelation was that I'm quicker than I thought and can run across slope through a boulder field doing the 100 in around 6 seconds flat. The second, when I finally paused to look back, was I've got a loaded 7 Mag in my hands.
Took around 1/2 hour for my heart rate to get back to normal.
While on a guided Canadian bear hunt I was instructed to remain in the stand until the guide returned. It was understood that it would be well after dark.
It was at least an hour after dark when I saw a cub sprint past my stand and head straight to the bait pails which were no longer visible at 20 yds. Within a minute, another cub ran on the same path to the pails. Shortly after I saw a huge mass move in the direction of the cubs. I could hear the bears knocking the pails around and heard the meat bag getting ripped out of the tree.
I could only see a small patch of grass that grew under an opening in the canopy, nothing else. It was very dark but I eventually saw the large mass walk across the grassy spot and towards my stand. It was lost in the dark again but I knew it must be heading my way. My rifle had been unloaded and cased for over an hour. I pulled a tactical light from my pack and just held onto it while trying to detect the bear's position. Soon there was a big tug on the metal ladder stand and I realized that the bear was on the base of the ladder.
I never felt the bear climb so I just held the light which was still off and hoped for the best. Waited about a minute and switched the light on to see down the ladder. To my amazement, there was a huge bear head right between my boots!!! Scared the living sh__ out of me. Fortunately, the bear was so frightened by the blazing light in her eyes that she dropped all the way to the ground and ran through the brush crashing into everything. The cubs followed her.
Interestingly enough, the cubs returned and resumed eating the sweets that were in the small pails. I put the light on them several times but they would not leave. I assume that the sow remained close.
If anyone ever tells you that a bear can't climb a metal ladderstand, I'm her to attest to the opposite!
BTW - I was sprayed head-to-toe with a commercial scent blocking product and the stand was heavily camouflaged. Nothing beats a bear's sense of smell.
My set up was in a CRP field and I saw this critter moving towards me to my left, did not think it was a bear, rather maybe a hog. When it got within a few feet from me I stood up with cell phone in my left hand and 12 gauge in my right. The bear did a loud "huff" sound and crow hopped away from me and I snapped a photo just as he turned his head to get a look at me. Then he skedaddled.
Bears always ruin my turkey hunting. Turkeys hate bears. Last time I was sure I had a great spot I arrived to find a sow shaking the bejezus out of a gambles oak and her cubs scurrying around collecting the acorns that were dropping.
When I was a kid no self respecting bear would ever come around HUMANS! Yep I've seem many but when they see me they always run the other way. That has changed in Montana and mostly everywhere else. I have been run out of hunting spots from Black Bears and Griz but mostly Blackies. I don't know if animal attitudes in general have changed but they are way meaner than they used to be. Alamosa I used to hunt around Alamosa every now and then and got run off a clean kill by Griz.The game wardens at the check station said bears get first choice,if you lose a tag we will replace it but don't kill our bears without big time provocation. Bear spray is cheap compared to a hospital bill or a funeral cost.
I have had my dogs point bears in dens a few times. Never was bothered about being within a couple feet of the bear.
Had a bear drag off a dead calf into a forty acre four foot high hay field. I started following the mashed down hay. Every 20-30 feet and the drag would tend to make a right angle turn. I got about a hundred feet in and the though occurred to me that this could be the sow with a couple cubs that had been hanging around. About another two feet and the though came to me that she might just be laying up on that calf with the cubs, and walking around a corner in the trail onto them probably wasn't a good idea. I backed out slowly and carefully. I don't know for a fact she was there, but a lifetime in the woods told me I wasn't alone in that hay field and without a rifle I didn't want to get any closer. Black bears just aren't a problem.
My only bear encounter didn't involve a bear at all as far as I knew. Turkey hunting, walking down a dirt road and off to my right in thick brambles maybe 15-20 feet away, I heard a loud "chuff" and something large run away. No one had ever seen a bear in those parts before, so the only thing I could think was it must have been a feral hog?
Later that year a black bear tore a hole in the side of the house (cabin). The height of claw marks and scat with "dropping" near the size of a beer can was an eye opener. A bit later it dawned on me my feral hog probably wasn't.
Other than that, I've only seen them out a car window and have no issues keeping it that way.
The last thing I want to rely on in an attack situation is a stick with a nail in it.A good sidearm, rilfe or shotgun is your best option. I got charged once, and it ain't a whole lot of fun. One gains a lot of respect and appreciation for how fast a pissed off sow protecting her cubs can move. At close quarters, you'll be hard pressed to get a gun up in time to defend your self anyways, but that's still your best chance. A stick with a nail? Seriously?
Pussy. .
Last fall the rifle was a bit away in the boat while I set up camp. I defended myself with my "backup" camera in the left hand, and bounced the more stout 1st choice binoculars off a sow Griz at 9 feet with the right hand . She wasn't serious, and I did not shat my pants.... nor have much choice.
I posted pics and an account then.
I also moved camp.
And these are the most dangerous little bastards around- they cause problems, as they did above, racing down the sandbar right into me.
that was the before - I much preferred this after;;
Such a question posed by this Yukon man (of obvious deep experience) is vital to every sportsman, so we should go easy with the comments. After all, you may be the one who encounters a grizzly with a can opener in your hand. The kind of can opener we chose suddenly becomes important.
In a tale previously posted, with one bear among those encountered closer than 30 yards I whacked him in the chest with a bag of garbage as he reared up on his hind legs. Very effective. He ran.
Oops. My bad, very bad. For curiosity I looked up several previous posts by MyYukon. I truly apologize for making any reply to one of his posts.
Hey - whacking an oncoming bear at 10 feet with binoculars worked for me! (The camera was backup...).
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