Anyone wearing this jacket? Tried one on today, really liked it.

850 treated down with some type of waterproof and windproof shell.

Looking for some type of puffy for future use, This thing seems warm, likely too warm for any physical exertion but for idle situations, game on.

the fact that it's 30% off is just a bonus.

Any thoughts or comparisons?

Other than buying from the liberal, anti- 2A, REI, you probably have a good deal.

No experience with that one but here is a good review. https://manmakesfire.com/rei-stormhenge-850-down-jacket-review/

Good features and if you want more of a coat for stand hunting this would be good. I usually pick down for weight and pack ability and wear a separate wind or waterproof jacket if needed. Or I use it for layering under heavy jackets for cold stand hunting. Members get 20% off now, I did not see the 30% off just the rebate.

Does it fit in a gallon Ziploc? That's my criteria. Very valuable in a hunt but limited use for my puffy jackets.

Heavier than I'd want.

Not sure, but not likely.

overall weight or fill weight?

Options?

And if I bought from Kuiu some whack job would bitch because I'm supporting California......

Don't be that guy.

No REI anything allowed in this house! Buying from companies that don't support the 2nd amendment, is not American! Fugg REI and it as supporters! Just my humble opinion!

Choose wisely, grasshopper. FYI, Dick’s probably has some great sale items, too.....

You, we all buy things everyday from companies that don't support the 2nd Amendment. So your comment is hypocritical at best and makes you sound really ignorant.

On the other hand, why would you support an entity that doesn’t support the things you hold dear? Unless you are a majority stockholder, the only influence you have is voting with your wallet. Smart companies make and or sell their products and support mainstream ideals or simply STFU and not politicize their core values. To do otherwise is economic suicide. To support entities in opposition to ones core beliefs is not exactly smart either. Happy Trails

Remind me what computer you are using? What Internet provider? And the whole host of other anti-2A brands you buy regularly. And the beat goes on!

WAM, I respect your line of thinking,

but you are being very narrow minded.

It's not that simple, never was, never will be.

WAM, tell me which puffy to buy,

and I guarantee I can find some fault with the owner, or manufacturer, location, country manufactured in....... etc...etc...

Proceed carefully,

Patiently waiting.

Simply put, one cannot avoid all the anti-2A businesses out there. But why would you buy outdoor gear from one so blatantly opposed to your ideals? Maybe you have no real principles to worry about. Just follow the lead lemming? Puffy? Buy the one that best matches the man-bun.

WAM

what outdoor retailer sells top brand outdoor apparel that is pro 2A? I am not talking about camo second tier apparel. Quality stuff from the likes of Arcteryx, Mammut, RAB, Outdoor Research. and Patagonia?

That's a tuff one. Most of the outdoor gear companies use all synthetic materials. The others source their down from China unless specifically stated.

Kuiiu is one that is good as well as Sitka, but pricey. Maybe LL Bean? Not sure about North Face and Outdoor Research. Paul Petzoldt was a hunter but not sure if he has anything to do with OR anymore. Patagonia is pro fishing but anti hunting so not sure where that fits in.

You might check First Lite and Sitka. I just try to avoid the in-your-face Anti's. You are correct in saying it is very difficult to drill down to the bottom of the supply chain. I happily avoid the most obvious like Starbucks, Target, Dick's, REI and any others that pop into my sights. In looking at catalogs if there are no hunting or shooting scenes, you might have a clue. That is all. Happy Trails

I wouldn't say Patagonia is anti-hunting. Definitely not clear and present Pro-hunting. They tend to keep quiet on hunting. I believe Yvon did hunt in his younger days. I would guess that the majority of the employees are anti-hunting. Those that are not are clearly not going to stand up and voice their pro-hunting opinions.

I don't get it people will pay all day everyday to anti 2A and hunting companies and justify it by it's not outdoor products. Yet those companies give so much more to the anti's than the outdoor companies do. Sorry but I am buying quality gear.

First lite is sh_t. The only two companies I would buy from that are hunting specific are Sitka and Kuiu. Though I am not overly impressed by either company.

I would look at Kyptek but they seem a bit pricey to me for what you are getting. In fairness I have never owned any of their gear. I do like that they are veteran founded and owned.

Personally camo means jacksh_t to me. I much rather just have solid earth tone colors.

WAM you haven't answered my honest question. Where would you buy any outdoor products of any quality?

I have no issue going to REI to try products on and then go online and buy them else wear. I admittedly still shop there, but it's a last choice. North Face, ArcTeryx, Marmot, etc can be bought from various online vendors. If a company wants to make a political statement, so be it. I try to make mine where I can too, just not so much with my voice, more so my wallet. New Nike products are banned in my house, no Levi's, avoid REI, never Dick's, no more Yeti...

As for Starbucks, I think the message was they don't want their stores to be the location of open carry appreciation rallies. I respect that. I've been in countless Starbucks in the Denver metro area. I have yet to see a sign prohibiting any sort of carry (ever) and have occasionally seen open carry in their stores.

Again you are not answering the question. You try it on at REI and buy it online. What online retailer is it that you think isn't anti 2A or hunting? North Face Not either. Marmot Not either. Arcteryx Not either, yes I know they have the leaf collection, haha that they hide oh so well. Not to mention it's their "Tactical" line for police and military so that makes it ok in their eyes.

So should I just settle for lesser products and buy them at places I need to jump through hoops to acquire?

Hint there are REI's pretty much everywhere and their return policy is pretty dam good.

Montana, I'm not WAM. What question did you ask me?

I know you are not. But you sort of replied to my question maybe inadvertently?

As I replied to you those companies you mention are not 2A nor hunting friendly, North Face, Marmot, Arcteryx. You say you try on at REI but buy from online retailers. What online retailer do you think is 2A or hunting friendly?

I wasn't intentionally replying to your question. More stating what I do. You do as you want. As for retailers, sure there might be some anti-gun bias in some of them, but my personal criteria is if the company routinely and blatantly makes anti-2A statements and decisions, I will avoid them. I'm sure Arcteryx has some liberals on board, but I personally have never heard/seen/read anything from them that states they are anti-2A. If I learn something new, I'll adjust accordingly. To me, no (anti-2A) news is good news. With my own company, I know my personal views are not inline with some of my clients, but I also don't advertise my political views to clients.

I just googled "arcteryc jacket" and on the first page about 10 different companies came up. Some I don't even know. I'll eliminate the obvious anti-gun ones and shop on price, return policy, and stars on the remaining ones. That's just me.

Good way to avoid answering. No worries you are certainly free to do as you like. But as I have said the peanuts they donate compared to the boatloads the big companies we do business with everyday is hypocritical.

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Good to hear this even though I don't buy a lot from Patagonia. I approve of their dam removal efforts and pollution reduction campaigns. The gear is top notch and the guarantee as good as it gets.

Buy the best gear you can afford at the best price you can find.

Agree for the most part. But if I know one seller is great with customer service and returns and the other is unknown I'll pay a little more.

Not a rule, it's more of a guideline.

Gun store nearest to me is Dicks, if they have something I am interested I go there waste their time checking it out than go online and purchase it. I do the same with REI.

I would.

https://www.patagonia.com/blog/2016/09/yvon-chouinard-save-the-yellowstone-grizzly/

And I would not be surprised if they drop fishing as soon as the old man dies... 7% of their business and something over 50 million in annual sales
.
Their upland hunting pants and jacket is obviously for shooting yet they came up with some goofy-ass name for it.

Oh yeah, "hacking" jacket!

I know a lot of hunters that are against hunting some species. This doesn't show He is anti hunting. Can you come up with something better?

Sorta goes back to my comment in the why hunt bears thread montanacreekhunter, not many grey areas in my vision anymore. He actively worked to prevent the grizzly hunt. He's also a big supporter and contributor
of BHA.

There is a difference between anti-hunting and those that see hunting in only their opinionated ways. I agree with you I hate the grey areas.

A couple weeks ago I was killing time in Anchorage and the REI was right there. Haven't been in there in years, so what the heck. Wasn't planning on buying anything anyway, but it was a sure thing when I saw two of the "sales associates" had man-buns.

Call me prejudiced... or just chea - um - economical. Over-priced yuppe/millenial stuff.

Who the hell is going to pay $180 for a pair of trekking poles? Pair of bamboo ski poles cost a lot less ( I have at least 4 unused sets that came with skis years ago), and my homemade birch Moses staff was free but for some whittling time.

I did recently acquire a Yeti thermal cup. Nice cup. Found it on the road in the next-door state campground. Smelled of wine. figure someone left it sitting on the bumper when driving off.

My kind of shopping high end stuff- ain't gonna throw it out because it's Yeti. Using it for a garage cup tho.

It is a real purty robin's egg blue.

Ok- I'll retract a bit here. I know a mountain guide who rightly has a set of those trekkers IF they are the best available . He doesn't buy anything that isn't the best available in his opinion. His and his client's lives depend on it, often enough.

I was thinking more along the lines of that obnoxious, always-talking lady hiker in the Robert Redford movie about the two old guys hiking the Appalachian Trail. And Yuppies, weekend trail hiking. The Neon Brigade.