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Posted By: pacecars Handgun hunting in Africa - 01/12/23
Where would be the best place to go and outfitter to contact for a handgun safari? The plan now would be to carry a T/C Contender in .375 JDJ and an Eabco Bf pistol in 6.5 BRM. I want to hunt Cape Buffalo, Eland and Kudu. Bushbuck and Zebra if possible would be a bonus.
Posted By: bowmanh Re: Handgun hunting in Africa - 01/12/23
I don't think you have to go to a specific outfitter or PH for a handgun hunt, although maybe some PH's wouldn't be interested.

I'd say it makes sense to decide what country you want to hunt in and then look for the best outfitters in that country.

I've done two rifle hunts with Mokore Safaris, one in Zimbabwe and one in Mozambique and they are top notch. But there are many other good choices.
Posted By: jdollar Re: Handgun hunting in Africa - 01/12/23
All African countries have a minimal muzzle energy or caliber to hunt dangerous game. Be sure your handgun meets these minimal standards. The minimal standards may not apply to South Africa high fenced ranches, however.
Posted By: pacecars Re: Handgun hunting in Africa - 01/12/23
I know Namibia is out and I think Mozambique is too
Ronnie, you need to get a possible critter list together, and talk to the Safari outfitters to make sure your expectations are met, and your not hunting in an area where all shots are well over 200 yards. Be realistic about your distance requirements, with them. I’ve done Revolver only hunts, and although I am confident out to 150 yards under perfect conditions, you seldom have perfect conditions.
Having a couple must have animals, and being open to what you may run into, will get you into a much more affordable hunt, than going after one at a time off a list, paying full pop for each. Most affordable yet, a plains game hunt with 6 or 10 animals may get you a couple you have not thought of, but gets you lots of gun time on critters, and a very nice assortment of classic African game. On your next hunt go after Cape buffalo and more specialized critters. Mixing Big 7 and plains game, on one hunt usually costs you more, as 2 guides are needed for dangerous game.
Go to SCI in Nashville next month and meet and talk to the guides from Africa.
Posted By: selmer Re: Handgun hunting in Africa - 01/30/23
If you need a bigger bore than the .375 JDJ, tclubber is selling two big bore (.416" and .458") XP-100s in the classifieds right now.
Posted By: pacecars Re: Handgun hunting in Africa - 02/01/23
I am making my goals more realistic and have decided on Eland, Kudu and possibly Nyala. I may try to make logistics easier and stick with the .375 JDJ for everything and if I can come up with one load that would be even better. I will need to get some ammo loaded up and start practicing off sticks. I have plenty of properly head stamped brass and need to decide on a one bullet workhorse and lay in a supply
Posted By: bowmanh Re: Handgun hunting in Africa - 02/01/23
Originally Posted by Bearskinner
2 guides are needed for dangerous game.
That's not my experience. I have hunted buffalo a couple of times with only one PH. I think that's the normal situation.

It is true however, that if you hunt dangerous game the daily rate is much higher, so a plains game only hunt is much cheaper.
Posted By: jdollar Re: Handgun hunting in Africa - 02/01/23
I’ve never heard of needing 2 PH’s for dangerous game. I’ve hunted DG in 5 countries in southern and central Africa, although admittedly with a rifle.
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Posted By: M3taco Re: Handgun hunting in Africa - 02/09/23
I believe only RSA and maybe ZIM allow only revolver handguns to be temp imported for hunting or other purposes and may require special approval or permits to do so.

I know for certain, Namibia and Botswana do not allow civilian handgun temp imports.
Originally Posted by pacecars
I am making my goals more realistic and have decided on Eland, Kudu and possibly Nyala. I may try to make logistics easier and stick with the .375 JDJ for everything and if I can come up with one load that would be even better. I will need to get some ammo loaded up and start practicing off sticks. I have plenty of properly head stamped brass and need to decide on a one bullet workhorse and lay in a supply

I think your handgun has more than enough power. J.D. Jones has taken some of the game you listed, with his 6.5 JDJ.

I hope you have a great time on your trip.
Posted By: RinB Re: Handgun hunting in Africa - 02/09/23
I know an outfitter who used to hunt Lion by tracking over very sandy terrain. He required two PH’s on those RIFLE hunts.

For handgun or bow DG hunting is a very good idea.
Posted By: bowmanh Re: Handgun hunting in Africa - 02/09/23
Originally Posted by RinB
I know an outfitter who hunts Lion by tracking over very sandy terrain. He requires two PH’s on those RIFLE hunts.
Sounds like an exciting hunt! What country is that in?
Posted By: RinB Re: Handgun hunting in Africa - 02/10/23
Was in area of Botswana border with Northern Province RSA. Don’t know current status.
Leaving Cape buffalo off of your list is smart. Hunting any dangerous game with a single shot pistol is, IMO a bad idea. Cape Buffalo in particular, can soak a lot lead and mount a charge after being mortally wounded. It took 8 well-placed 500 grain 458 Lott bullets at close quarters to take down a highly agitated bull I killed in Tanzania. Having extra shots was critical as the bull decided to take the fight to me.

Another bull I killed was calm when I fired my first shot at 20 yards. Nonetheless it took a second shot to put it on the ground. Both were well-placed shots. You just never know.

Another thing to consider even when hunting plains game is that a wounded animal costs a trophy fee whether you recover it or not. Getting a follow-up shot with a single shot is iffy.

T.S.
You may want to pick up a set of TRIpod sticks to practice with and take them with you. Nothing like having a tracker throw up a pair ( bipod) of flimsy bouncy sticks, that you don’t feel comfortable with. I use my own.
Posted By: pacecars Re: Handgun hunting in Africa - 02/12/23
All good advice. I plan to get some sticks to practice with and they will go with me. I am going to stick with plains game for my first safari. If an opportunity comes up after for Cape Buffalo I would love to use my John Linebaugh built Ruger Bisley Vaquero in .500 Linebaugh to take one. It has enough oomph to get it done
Posted By: jdollar Re: Handgun hunting in Africa - 02/12/23
I’ve never seen a pair of bipod sticks in 17 safaris in Africa….. Tripod practice is essential, though.
I agree. Shooting off sticks is not second nature. One should practice before making the trip.

T.S.
Originally Posted by jdollar
I’ve never seen a pair of bipod sticks in 17 safaris in Africa….. Tripod practice is essential, though.

As a handgun hunter, I had my PH pull a bipod of lightweight sticks from his truck. I didn’t use them, and always just use my own tripod set up exclusively now.
Posted By: IndyCA35 Re: Handgun hunting in Africa - 04/06/23
I think bipod stocks are far better than tripods.

Why?

By slightly moving forward or backward you can quickly adjust for elevation.

As for monopods I can shoot more accurately offhand.
Tripods for sure, I've been twice & they were the answer if a shot got a little bit on the long side. Using a bipod can possibly make it easier for elevation adjustments but there's no support on the back & that's a big game changer for most people. What ever you use make sure you practice a bunch with it, and also from offhand shooting because that always comes into play in Africa, it did for me. I was using revolvers.

Dick
Here is a hunt report for a handgunner in Africa earlier this year:
https://www.longrangehunting.com/threads/africa-2023.329540/
Bruce
We used bipods for my hunt in Zim. There were no tripods to be seen. I agree with IndyCA35, bipods are the best for me. Whatever you choose, practice with it ahead of time.
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