"For almost 150 years the United States has been conducting an interesting experiment. The subjects of the experiment: black people and working-class whites.
The hypothesis to be tested: Can a people taken from the jungles of Africa and forced into slavery be fully integrated as citizens in a majority white population?
The whites were descendants of Europeans who had created a majestic civilization. The former slaves had been tribal peoples with no written language and virtually no intellectual achievements. Acting on a policy that was not fair to either group, the government released newly freed black people into a white society that saw them as inferiors. America has struggled with racial discord ever since.
Decade after decade the problems persisted but the experimenters never gave up. They insisted that if they could find the right formula the experiment would work, and concocted program after program to get the result they wanted. They created the Freedman’s Bureau, passed civil rights laws, tried to build the Great Society, declared War on Poverty, ordered race preferences, built housing projects, and tried midnight basketball.
Their new laws intruded into people’s lives in ways that would have been otherwise unthinkable. They called in National Guard troops to enforce school integration. They outlawed freedom of association. Over the protests of parents, they put white children on buses and sent them to black schools and vice-versa. They tried with money, special programs, relaxed standards, and endless hand wringing to close the achievement gap. To keep white backlash in check they began punishing public and even private statements on race. They hung up Orwellian public banners that commanded whites to Celebrate Diversity! and Say No to Racism. Nothing was off limits if it might salvage the experiment.
Some thought that what W.E.B. DuBois called the Talented Tenth would lead the way for black people. A group of elite, educated blacks would knock down doors of opportunity and show the world what blacks were capable of.
There is a Talented Tenth. They are the black Americans who have become entrepreneurs, lawyers, doctors and scientists. But ten percent is not enough. For the experiment to work, the ten percent has to be followed by a critical mass of people who can hold middle-class jobs and promote social stability. That is what is missing.
Through the years, too many black people continue to show an inability to function and prosper in a culture unsuited to them. Detroit is bankrupt, the south side of Chicago is a war zone, and the vast majority of black cities all over America are beset by degeneracy and violence. And blacks never take responsibility for their failures. Instead, they lash out in anger and resentment.
Across the generations and across the country, as we have seen in Detroit, Watts, Newark, Los Angeles, Cincinnati, and now Ferguson, rioting and looting are just one racial incident away. The white elite would tell us that this doesn't mean the experiment has failed. We just have to try harder. We need more money, more time, more understanding, more programs, and more opportunities.
But nothing changes no matter how much money is spent, no matter how many laws are passed, no matter how many black geniuses are portrayed on TV, and no matter who is president. Some argue it’s a problem of culture, as if culture creates people’s behavior instead of the other way around. Others blame white privilege.
But since 1965, when the elites opened Americas doors to the Third World, immigrants from Asia and India, people who are not white, not rich, and not connected have quietly succeeded. While the children of these people are winning spelling bees and getting top scores on the SAT, black youths are committing half the country's violent crime, which includes viciously punching random white people on the street for the thrill of it that has nothing to do with poverty.
The experiment has failed. Not because of white culture, or white privilege, or white racism. The fundamental problem is that American black culture has evolved into an un-fixable and crime ridden mess. *They do not want to change their culture or society, and expect others to tolerate their violence and amoral behavior. They have become socially incompatible with other races by their own design, not because of the racism of others - but by their own hatred of non-blacks.*
Our leaders don't seem to understand just how tired their white subjects are with this experiment. *They don't understand that white people aren't out to get black people; they are just exhausted with them. They are exhausted by the social pathologies, the violence, the endless complaints, and the blind racial solidarity, the bottomless pit of grievances, the excuses, and the reflexive animosity.* The elites explain everything with racism, and refuse to believe that white frustration could soon reach the boiling point."---
"You can't legislate the poor into freedom by legislating the wealthy out of freedom. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving. The government can't give to anybody anything that the government doesn't first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they don't have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friend, is about the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it."
What I find interesting is that NO ONE goes back to the beginning of this "situation" and acknowledges that it was blacks that place the blacks in America in the slave trade to start with. Due to the wars between tribes and the taking of prisoners and then selling them to the slave trade. So it all started in Africa! Cheers NC
Blacks enslaving and selling slaves continues this day in many countries of Africa. It has been an accepted way of life there since way before they found the market in the new American colonies. None of our Mainstream Media will report on that anymore than they'll publish the black on black homicide rates for the large USA cities.
Blacks don't have to be descended from slaves for them not to be able to function in western society. 10s of thousands of Somalis have been brought in over the past few years. One of them got elected to Congress and hasn't stopped making demands for the black community since.
Weren’t the Arabs a big driving force in the slave trade? From what ive read, they gave the newly aquired slave the option to become muslims and have a better life in certain ways. They are also the ones who would organize certain tribes and get them to “hunt” other tribes, usually for the trade. Slaves would be captured inland and forced to carry ivory out to the coast. The ivory and slaves were then sold.
Black people are a problem, but we're supposed to solve that, by saying white people are the problem. Won't work.
Sorry people are a problem. Some happen to be black.
Not with crime. Young black males, probably 5% of the population, do 60% of the crime. Nobody even mentions it. Of COURSE they will have bad interactions with police. You could probably make the case that males in general, are a problem, committing 84% of crimes, while comprising about 50% of the population.
I looked up Ian Duncan and Baltimore Sun. It appears as though Ian Duncan didn't write this and that it didn't appear in the Baltimore Sun.
Baltimore Sun Publishes “The Black Dilemma” Editorial – Incorrect Attribution!
Politics / By Rich Buhler & Staff / June 10, 2015
Summary of eRumor:
Forwarded emails and blog posts have cited an editorial titled “The Black Dilemma” that supposedly appeared in the Baltimore Sun.
The Truth:
The Baltimore Sun didn’t publish “The Black Dilemma” editorial. And it wasn’t written by a man named Ian Duncan Smith, as was reported in October 2017. The editorial was published in September 2014 by American Renaissance, a website that says it approaches “the problems of race” with “race realism.” Anthony Bryan, described as an engineer and entrepreneur who lives in “Whitetopia,” wrote the editorial, which is actually called “Ten Percent is Not Enough.”.
Black people are a problem, but we're supposed to solve that, by saying white people are the problem. Won't work.
Sorry people are a problem. Some happen to be black.
The % of blacks that are "sorry" is dramatically higher than white, by maybe an order of magnitude.
The more you give, the more they take; the more they take, the more they want................when is enough, enough?
Answer..................never.
And that leads us to today & the current impasse......................things are going to get worse before they get better, if it's even possible anymore to get better.
Country needs to have a come to Jesus moment, & I'm not really talking about religion.
Weren’t the Arabs a big driving force in the slave trade? From what ive read, they gave the newly aquired slave the option to become muslims and have a better life in certain ways. They are also the ones who would organize certain tribes and get them to “hunt” other tribes, usually for the trade. Slaves would be captured inland and forced to carry ivory out to the coast. The ivory and slaves were then sold.
The life of Tibbu Tip pretty well explains the state of the world at that time. Slavery is not, and never has been, an exclusively white institution.
Originally being from the Baltimore area, I cannot confirm that and dont feel like researching it.... but I can confirm no media source in Baltimore would even consider running that hahahahahaga
There is none. It will continue and get worse and worse. Too many whites caving in or buying in. The solution is much too terrible to contemplate for most folks.
After emancipation, they went through the KKK, the Black Codes, The Jim Crow laws, segregated schools, hospitals, buses, housing, and jobs. They're doing exactly what they've been trained to do.
Funny how the Black Lives Matter folks aren't doing any of their activities in certain Chicago neighborhoods where too many young black men get gunned down weekly.
After emancipation, they went through the KKK, the Black Codes, The Jim Crow laws, segregated schools, hospitals, buses, housing, and jobs. They're doing exactly what they've been trained to do.
If I was black I wouldn't much like white people. But I'm not, and lately while liking individual black people very much I am learning to be not too fond of their tribe. This is going to end badly with either the complete capitulation of the white race or a serious reaction against black people. South Africa or Rhodesia may be our future.
After emancipation, they went through the KKK, the Black Codes, The Jim Crow laws, segregated schools, hospitals, buses, housing, and jobs. They're doing exactly what they've been trained to do.
If I was black I wouldn't much like white people. But I'm not, and lately while liking individual black people very much I am learning to be not too fond of their tribe. This is going to end badly with either the complete capitulation of the white race or a serious reaction against black people. South Africa or Rhodesia may be our future.
Well said, and not impossible to happen here like South Africa. Blacks would love to own us, cut us up, and end us.
Even if they accomplished such a thing, here. They still couldn’t run a successful government, community, or nation. They would still be blaming us in the grave for not being able to provide for themselves. Fact, not optics!
White liberals are too blame. They're [bleep] stupid and every one of their ideas put in place as "social experiments" are a complete failure. My son's 14 and at work today I was asking if he thought the rewards of his hard work this week should be taken and given to a bunch of homeless dope addict crackers hanging out where we were driving through. He told me they'd studied natural selection in school this year and he figured that if someone healthy wasn't willing to provide for themselves maybe nature should weed them out. He's up at 6:00am most mornings without me waking him up. I hope like hell I can keep him in the direction he's heading. My daughter is 19 and about as conservative/capatilist as you can get.
White liberals are too blame. They're [bleep] stupid and every one of their ideas put in place as "social experiments" are a complete failure. My son's 14 and at work today I was asking if he thought the rewards of his hard work this week should be taken and given to a bunch of homeless dope addict crackers hanging out where we were driving through. He told me they'd studied natural selection in school this year and he figured that if someone healthy wasn't willing to provide for themselves maybe nature should weed them out. He's up at 6:00am most mornings without me waking him up. I hope like hell I can keep him in the direction he's heading. My daughter is 19 and about as conservative/capatilist as you can get.
Sounds to me like you have done right by your kids.
White liberals are too blame. They're [bleep] stupid and every one of their ideas put in place as "social experiments" are a complete failure. My son's 14 and at work today I was asking if he thought the rewards of his hard work this week should be taken and given to a bunch of homeless dope addict crackers hanging out where we were driving through. He told me they'd studied natural selection in school this year and he figured that if someone healthy wasn't willing to provide for themselves maybe nature should weed them out. He's up at 6:00am most mornings without me waking him up. I hope like hell I can keep him in the direction he's heading. My daughter is 19 and about as conservative/capatilist as you can get.
The socialists have the media and academia sewed up tight. If we can't change that, the uniformed masses of sheep who take their cues from these sources will give away our freedom for temporary safety, just as we were warned. The "conservatives" on here in support of quarantine, shut downs, masks etc... Are part of the problem. Don't be scared into submission. *Edit to add* Don't be [bleep] shamed into submission either. Stand for what's right even if it's not popular.
"Diversity" is one of the top industries in the US, if not the World. I'll bet more is spent on diversity brainwashing and freedom of association violation than even accounting or engineering.
That article is very well written. The people from India come here and go right to the top. The Japs were locked in concentration camps for 4 years. And that was just 80 years ago! And they were released and went on with there lives, became a bunch of doctors and phd's in Biology etc. Meanwhile the negros wallow in their own crap and complain about mistreatment that happened 160 years ago.
Can anyone now say a soccer mom with too much time on her hands isn’t dangerous?
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I pulled a copy of Eric Hoffer's The True Believer out of the bookcase and rereading. In part two he addresses The Inordinately Selfish , The Ambitious Facing Unlimited Opportunity and The Bored which is much of what we'really seeing today.
You boys need to quite obsessing on "blacks". They make up 13% of this Country's population.
Two thirds of those are kids and half of those left over are in prison. Of the remainder, half are more conservative than you are.
It's your bitch kids and neighbors that are the real problem.
Blacks are the root cause.................the white's you're talking about jump on the bandwagon with their white guilt & make the problem worse.
I once started a manufacturing JV with a Japanese company here in the u.S., & as such, had several of them relocated here & working for me. Over the course of lots of dinners & drinks over time, they always told me that "the blacks are going to ruin your country".
They were 100% right.
You can cut it any way you want it, but that's the fact.
You boys need to quite obsessing on "blacks". They make up 13% of this Country's population.
Two thirds of those are kids and half of those left over are in prison. Of the remainder, half are more conservative than you are.
It's your bitch kids and neighbors that are the real problem.
Blacks are the root cause.................they white's you're talking about jump on the bandwagon with their white guilt & make the problem worse.
I once started a manufacturing JV with a Japanese company here in the u.S., & as such, had several of them relocated here & working for me. Over the course of lots of dinners & drinks over time, they always told me that "the blacks are going to ruin your country".
They were 100% right.
You can cut it any way you want it, but that's the fact.
MM
Originally Posted by MontanaMan
Originally Posted by ltppowell
You boys need to quite obsessing on "blacks". They make up 13% of this Country's population.
Two thirds of those are kids and half of those left over are in prison. Of the remainder, half are more conservative than you are.
It's your bitch kids and neighbors that are the real problem.
Blacks are the root cause.................they white's you're talking about jump on the bandwagon with their white guilt & make the problem worse.
I once started a manufacturing JV with a Japanese company here in the u.S., & as such, had several of them relocated here & working for me. Over the course of lots of dinners & drinks over time, they always told me that "the blacks are going to ruin your country".
They were 100% right.
You can cut it any way you want it, but that's the fact.
Slave life in the future US was downright easy living compared to the Caribbean and South America. The French, Spanish, and Portagooses were brutal to their slaves. On some of the islands, life expectancy was under 2 years. A major problem for the early settlers was finding wives. In North America, they'd write home hoping their families could find them brides willing to come. Many women came as indentured servants or even prisoners. In S. American, they couldn't find enough women that way so they married their slaves, creating a largely mulatto population today.
Seriously, you are all over the map. There is no way you aren't drilled out or have previously been.
I said the same when I joined and was labeled a liberal.
I would prefer a coloured (any shade) neighbour that has conservative values than any thing that is on the left...I don't particularly see colour as a problem, I do see lazy, expectant, socialist, bums as a very serious issue. I see militant lefty bastards (any colour) and their handlers as an immediate threat and would prefer that threat either negated or terminated.
I don't really give a flying fuck what you or anyone else thinks of my views on this matter, and whilst it amuses me to discuss those views the bottom line is that I am not interested in changing them.
The best is the blacks wonder why whites dont discuss race. Thats because when you disagree with them they call you a racist. Every city every school etc they destroy..........
I once started a manufacturing JV with a Japanese company here in the u.S., & as such, had several of them relocated here & working for me. Over the course of lots of dinners & drinks over time, they always told me that "the blacks are going to ruin your country".
The Japanese are some to talk about racism. Ask them about Okinawans.
"For almost 150 years the United States has been conducting an interesting experiment. The subjects of the experiment: black people and working-class whites.
The hypothesis to be tested: Can a people taken from the jungles of Africa and forced into slavery be fully integrated as citizens in a majority white population?
The whites were descendants of Europeans who had created a majestic civilization. The former slaves had been tribal peoples with no written language and virtually no intellectual achievements. Acting on a policy that was not fair to either group, the government released newly freed black people into a white society that saw them as inferiors. America has struggled with racial discord ever since.
Decade after decade the problems persisted but the experimenters never gave up. They insisted that if they could find the right formula the experiment would work, and concocted program after program to get the result they wanted. They created the Freedman’s Bureau, passed civil rights laws, tried to build the Great Society, declared War on Poverty, ordered race preferences, built housing projects, and tried midnight basketball.
Their new laws intruded into people’s lives in ways that would have been otherwise unthinkable. They called in National Guard troops to enforce school integration. They outlawed freedom of association. Over the protests of parents, they put white children on buses and sent them to black schools and vice-versa. They tried with money, special programs, relaxed standards, and endless hand wringing to close the achievement gap. To keep white backlash in check they began punishing public and even private statements on race. They hung up Orwellian public banners that commanded whites to Celebrate Diversity! and Say No to Racism. Nothing was off limits if it might salvage the experiment.
Some thought that what W.E.B. DuBois called the Talented Tenth would lead the way for black people. A group of elite, educated blacks would knock down doors of opportunity and show the world what blacks were capable of.
There is a Talented Tenth. They are the black Americans who have become entrepreneurs, lawyers, doctors and scientists. But ten percent is not enough. For the experiment to work, the ten percent has to be followed by a critical mass of people who can hold middle-class jobs and promote social stability. That is what is missing.
Through the years, too many black people continue to show an inability to function and prosper in a culture unsuited to them. Detroit is bankrupt, the south side of Chicago is a war zone, and the vast majority of black cities all over America are beset by degeneracy and violence. And blacks never take responsibility for their failures. Instead, they lash out in anger and resentment.
Across the generations and across the country, as we have seen in Detroit, Watts, Newark, Los Angeles, Cincinnati, and now Ferguson, rioting and looting are just one racial incident away. The white elite would tell us that this doesn't mean the experiment has failed. We just have to try harder. We need more money, more time, more understanding, more programs, and more opportunities.
But nothing changes no matter how much money is spent, no matter how many laws are passed, no matter how many black geniuses are portrayed on TV, and no matter who is president. Some argue it’s a problem of culture, as if culture creates people’s behavior instead of the other way around. Others blame white privilege.
But since 1965, when the elites opened Americas doors to the Third World, immigrants from Asia and India, people who are not white, not rich, and not connected have quietly succeeded. While the children of these people are winning spelling bees and getting top scores on the SAT, black youths are committing half the country's violent crime, which includes viciously punching random white people on the street for the thrill of it that has nothing to do with poverty.
The experiment has failed. Not because of white culture, or white privilege, or white racism. The fundamental problem is that American black culture has evolved into an un-fixable and crime ridden mess. *They do not want to change their culture or society, and expect others to tolerate their violence and amoral behavior. They have become socially incompatible with other races by their own design, not because of the racism of others - but by their own hatred of non-blacks.*
Our leaders don't seem to understand just how tired their white subjects are with this experiment. *They don't understand that white people aren't out to get black people; they are just exhausted with them. They are exhausted by the social pathologies, the violence, the endless complaints, and the blind racial solidarity, the bottomless pit of grievances, the excuses, and the reflexive animosity.* The elites explain everything with racism, and refuse to believe that white frustration could soon reach the boiling point."---
"You can't legislate the poor into freedom by legislating the wealthy out of freedom. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving. The government can't give to anybody anything that the government doesn't first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they don't have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friend, is about the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it."
Weren’t the Arabs a big driving force in the slave trade? From what ive read, they gave the newly aquired slave the option to become muslims and have a better life in certain ways. They are also the ones who would organize certain tribes and get them to “hunt” other tribes, usually for the trade. Slaves would be captured inland and forced to carry ivory out to the coast. The ivory and slaves were then sold.
Yes, Arabs and Jews dominated the international slave trade.