https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/26/politics/dc-statehood-vote-house/index.html


House Democrats approved a bill to admit Washington, DC, as a state on Friday, marking the first time either chamber of Congress has advanced a DC statehood measure.
The bill, introduced by DC's nonvoting House member, Del. Eleanor Holmes Norton, would shrink the federal capital to a small area encompassing the White House, Capitol building, Supreme Court, and other federal buildings along the National Mall. The rest of the city would become the 51st state, named the Washington, Douglass Commonwealth after abolitionist Frederick Douglass.

The bill passed with a vote of 232-180. Rep. Collin Peterson of Minnesota was the only Democrat to join Republicans in voting against it. Independent Rep. Justin Amash of Michigan also voted no.

The bill would grant DC two senators and make the existing sole House representative a voting member.

It is unlikely to gain traction in the Republican-held Senate, however, and the White House said this week that President Donald Trump would veto the bill if it came to his desk.

Anything for power. The House also impeached Trump over the Ukraine fustercluck.

If they get DC...they control the Senate, then they can admit Puerto Rico...Ka-ching. Jackpot, the Democratic Socialist States of America.

2 more senators, definitely Dems, likely negro too

If the House passed anything... That's all need I know to be against it.

They will try anything .

They think that would give them 2 more senate seats and more house seats.

They are right.

DC is 99.9% commie.

We already got a bullshît deal with Rhode Island

They don’t need two senators.

As to statehood for DC...BULLSHIT.

As to the Senate, we need to take it back to appointment or election by state legislatures. Popular election of US Senators has been a huge factor in the diminution of states' rights.

Well, I agree but you're preaching to the choir here. Here's what I'm afraid might happen:

Suppose the Dems take the Senate, they abolish the filibuster, and Biden wins. That ain't impossible. Then DC becomes a state, Puerto Rico besomes a state, with four more senators the Dems keep Senate control for a gazillon years.

Be scared. Be very scared.

The 51st state should be Jefferson.

If it wasn't for all the Democrat scams over the years, they'd never win an election.

They will incite some type of protest schitt with the groids in DC about this.
Next try will be Puerto Rico/ welfare island again.

If the democrat anti-American/socialist/communist policies, rules, regulations, and taxes prevail then the American we know will be destroyed. There will be a civil war to get America back. If china could stop the spread of the virus to other parts of China why did they allow the spread outside of China? By allowing people to leave Wuhan province to the USA, Europe and Japan they delivered the virus to china's enemies. This was done on purpose and was an attack on us and our allies with a WMD. The democrats are in bed with the chinese. Democrats want control and to be able to track everyone to insure they are following the communist policies. Think one world government. The new world order.

That is a distinct possibility.

Exactly what I was thinking. Rather than simply vote down the Dems ploy, the GOP should (but I know won't) counter with a presentation of the facts about states that are controlled by urban liberals. California is a perfect example. If DC is made a state, then there should be at least one new conservative-majority state carved out of California. Maybe even extend it through Oregon and Washington and into Nevada. That new state would come into creation with a good number of Congressional Representatives cleaved out of CA, OR, WA and Nevada and the two new senators would counter the two DC would get.

If the argument is that the people of D.C. don't get certain elements of representation due to the fact that they aren't a state, then the same argument goes for all of those landlocked conservatives in liberal states.

Maybe Puerto Rico will sue her.

The red states will have to succeed eventually keeping the area between the Appalachian Mountains and the Rocky's.....we just can't live with them anymore.


This D.C. statehood move is a warning of what the Dems will do if they "Win" Senate and presidency in November.

I like it. Been signing those petitions for years. Jefferson needs a deep-water port.

Coos Co (Coos Bay) OR would make a deepwater port, they were 100% on board with the Jefferson State application process a few years ago after a severe round of environmental decisions crippled the timber economy there. Haven't heard much lately, had their last meeting on June 17th in Coquille.

There's a few folks around these parts that would agree with that.

The Modoc has been part of Washington, Utah, and Nevada territories before. And a part of other counties here too.

It would be nice to become part of the 51st State.

The name "Jefferson" might not fly though. As much as I hate the idea of that kind of PC crap.

The last statement there is why a lot of guys in real Red States don't trust y'all. Sorry, because I like you, but these liberal ideas in liberal places just seem to infect people. Same reason Minneapolis residents that claim they are conservative aren't welcome in Kansas or Oklahoma or the like. Y'all cave on the very name of your so-called Conservative answer to the urban areas of Cali that you folks say run everything, but you're willing to give up the name that it has been known by for YEARS. It's just a name, but without that, what do you got?

I think you've got me all wrong dude.



I'd love for it to be Jefferson, I have no issue with it. Have supported the idea since the 70's. Matter of fact, split off the counties East of the Sierras, add in the Western Counties of AZ and a good chunk of NV outside the two big cities, and make another State called Franklin, or Kennedy, or CalNevAri for all I care. That would give "us" another conservative state.

Try getting a 51st state, or 52 if they push through DC, with that name through congress. Odds are it ain't gonna happen..

I'd be willing to bet that the majority of folks that favor our separation from Cali and Oregon favor the Jefferson name. And we'd not give in, until it's time to schiedt or get off the pot. If Congress wouldn't pass it as Jefferson, would you suggest we keep trying to push it through as such or accept another name AND our new state.

It's all well and good to talk tough, but sometimes practicality matters more for the end result.

I care way way less about a name and a bunch more about the results.

I almost deleted my post. I won't apologize, because I meant it. I like a lot of the stuff you say on here. I understand where you're coming from but...it's like you're compromising on the first thing...we've already lost so much by compromise. That's what the enemy expects of us.

I kid around on here a lot but allow me a bit of leeway to sermonize...if you believe in the Bible, the devil loves strife and death...his children love it too and that is what we are ultimately up against. Our side consists of families and people who love peace and prosperity. We are willing to go to great lengths to keep those things. The other side constantly talks about compromise but it is not compromise when somebody who has nothing is willing to "compromise" with you and only take half of what you have. A compromise is where somebody gives and somebody else gives, but the communist idea of compromise is somebody gives and somebody gets.

So you've got a bunch of people who are willing to give up their name...to compromise, in order to get their state. It's just a name. What about the State of Obama? But hey, we've got these two new "Conservative" Senators that are gonna ride in on their white horses and save us from compromise when they were born of it.

If y'all can get out from under the thumb of the crazoids in Sacramento, then more power to you.

Add a black star to the (USSA) flag? I still say let CA go. We can split off East Texas and still have fifty.

The Republicans (Conservatives) could learn a few lessons from the Democrats/Liberals/Communists/Socialists..............but do they?.............No, instead all they do is beech about the way Democrats cheat. All's fair in love and war, and politics is war as far as I'm concerned.

It used to be that there were certain issues that both parties could agree upon and act accordingly, but that is not the case anymore and in all likelihood never will be from here on out. The Democrats/Liberals/Communists/Socialists have decided to destroy this country and I see no good reason why Republicans/Conservatives should sit on their azzes and twiddle their thumbs, while taking the high road, and not fighting back. Our side needs to do whatever is necessary to save this country.........and I put emphasis on the word "whatever."

I'd rather "we" deal with this, than to leave our younger generations the consequences of not dealing with it.

Make them part of Maryland - use their 2 senators

I agree. The President has exposed a lot of enemies, not all at "just" the Fed level.

The parish (county) I live in is bigger than Rhode Island.

I'd say about 75% of the country, at least.

I think you're right.

As am I.


Good thing I'm not king. I'd let the birds fly and start this [bleep] over again.

It really is ridiculous to have a state that small with 2 senators. I just now figured that the average single county in Wyoming is almost 3 and 1/2 times the size of Rhode Island.

You understand it's along the same line of reasoning as the Electoral College? So that the small states have a voice and input,even if they only have a population allowing only one Representative.

The Founders came up with a pretty decent system all the way around. Made it tough to amend the Constitution for a reason, in other words there better be a good reason and more than a simple majority of the States better agree with that reason. Made the representation of the States in Congress and the construction of that body with two parts into a system that's worked for centuries.

I'll not complain about RI having two Senators................Now, if they want to even out the number of Congressmen............NO WAY.

Just what we need another welfare state, the answer is NO!

The people in DC crying about a lack of senators and a non voting Rep need to be reminded that they voluntarily live there. No one forced that on them. And if we want to discuss the land surrounding the Gov complexes in terms of statehood, shouldn’t some of it go to VA and some to MD? They gave up land to form the District.

You want a senator to vote for?


Move!

Why? A lot of very fine states don't have a deep water port.

The District consists only of land given up by Maryland. Originally it included some land from Virginia. But after the Civil War, the Virginia part bacame part of Virginia again.

It has been suggested that Maryland take over the district but Maryland doesn't want it!

As for size, San Bernardino County in California is larger than Massachusetts, Connecticut, and Rhode Island combined.

As for population, the county I live in has 2.5 times the population of the District of Columbia.

Yep. I had forgotten that. Give it to Maryland.

Crescent City is deep enough. If not, dredge a channel.

If we're going to hypothesize about a redoubt named Jefferson why not think big? Might need an aircraft carrier to defend it.

The name will not be an issue. After a state becomes a state, what would stop the citizens thereof from naming it anything they want? Call it The State of St. GreorgeFloyd to get it passed and then rename it Jefferson.

By the way, the Constitution says any new state made out of existing states had to be approved by the Congress and also the legislatures of all the states from which you carve it out. Probably won't happen.

Indy, That very strategy was brought up in a Jefferson meeting I attended last year. A few people mentioned some of the pure hogwash titles of ballot issues in the past, and unfortunately, how many stupid voters fell for it. California Fire Safety Act, Clean Water Act etc etc. One crusty old guy thought the Jefferson issue should be sent to the voters with the title of State of Clinton until it passed. Guaranteed.....Landslide victory in LAX and SFO. But, we gotta make it before we name it, as you so rudely pointed out. Several times now, we have bypassed the legislature with ballot initiatives (gay marriage the most recent) only to have the sons of bitches on the California State Supreme court reverse the peoples vote.