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Reports everywhere of Covid cases on the rise which with the added testing available and "protests" by those under 35 can only be expected. Governors and local govts re-closing businesses, parks, beaches etc but I'm not hearing that hospitalizations are sharply rising. It's like saying you're getting more rain after you put up a rain gauge. If you're scared, then keep your ass at home while the rest of us keep trying to make a living.

What's going on with hospitalizations and/or deaths near you?
Guess it depends where you are. Here in AR hospitalizations for the state are at an all time high and almost every single ICU bed in the region is full. More due to poultry plants giving it to almost every worker then taking it into the community.
They’ll close a bar with 200 people, suspend a beer license (kid rock’s honky tonk)


BLM c unt on the beer board then brags about shutting it down on twitter.

But they’ll encourage Juneteenth crowds and ‘peaceful’ riots.
The latest scam is to count everbody in the hospital that has Covid as a "Covid hospitalization".

Every patient in the hospital is tested every day for it, to try and pump up the numbers.

So, look for the next fake news ta be the "people hospitalized with Covid".

They're in the hospital because of appendicitis, broke leg, diabetes or cancer or whatever, but they're counted as "hospitalized with Covid".
Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.

When we say panic you should be afraid...
Originally Posted by Fubarski
The latest scam is to count everbody in the hospital that has Covid as a "Covid hospitalization".

Every patient in the hospital is tested every day for it, to try and pump up the numbers.

So, look for the next fake news ta be the "people hospitalized with Covid".

They're in the hospital because of appendicitis, broke leg, diabetes or cancer or whatever, but they're counted as "hospitalized with Covid".






So that's what they do in the hospital you work in? Cause that's not the case for the hospital I work in at all. For the most part we don't want Covid pts and send them home straight from the ER as best we can. And no, every pt is not tested every day for covid unless there is a reason to believe they have it. Most only get tested on admit.
SPIKE ,SPIKE SPIKE all over the news, but no new daily death tallies.
Originally Posted by Kodiakisland
Originally Posted by Fubarski
The latest scam is to count everbody in the hospital that has Covid as a "Covid hospitalization".

Every patient in the hospital is tested every day for it, to try and pump up the numbers.

So, look for the next fake news ta be the "people hospitalized with Covid".

They're in the hospital because of appendicitis, broke leg, diabetes or cancer or whatever, but they're counted as "hospitalized with Covid".






So that's what they do in the hospital you work in? Cause that's not the case for the hospital I work in at all. For the most part we don't want Covid pts and send them home straight from the ER as best we can. And no, every pt is not tested every day for covid unless there is a reason to believe they have it. Most only get tested on admit.


The politics of the area dictate the Covid protocol.

Some use common sense.

Others are part of the propaganda effort.
Texas Medical Center in Houston - largest medical center in the world - ICU beds were 97% full on Thursday, and last night I heard directly from a physician who works in the medical center that the ICU beds were all full. They have surge capacity for COVID that they can tap, but to fill all the ICU beds is a big deal. I've heard the ICU situation is similar where I live now. Not a good time to catch a serious case of COVID or have any other need for an ICU bed in several states.
Over 140,000 population in our county and 10 hospitalized with 0 in the ICU. 42 dead but most of those were from an outbreak in a single nursing facility. With numbers like that its hard to get into a panic. Our great Governor sure wants us to though...unless you want to loot, riot or deface property, then you get a free pass.
No point in looking at numbers if they are not going to be accurate.
This breathless wall-to-wall covid "pandemic" coverage coupled with non-stop black pandering commercials makes me watch Andy Griffith and fishing shows.

Hey! Mayberry never had any blacks in that cracker town! Let's burn the tapes!

GMAFB
Originally Posted by UNCCGrad
Over 140,000 population in our county and 10 hospitalized with 0 in the ICU. 42 dead but most of those were from an outbreak in a single nursing facility. With numbers like that its hard to get into a panic. Our great Governor sure wants us to though...unless you want to loot, riot or deface property, then you get a free pass.


Here in AR, there is a real problem, but it is restricted to 2 counties. It would be stupid to enact statewide measures because of two counties. I live in the worst county, and am OK with the restrictions or requests they've made for the individual cities within the county. thankfully they aren't trying to make the whole state be lumped in with us. The one county I live in and the one next to it are responsible for about 1/3 of the whole state positives.

Also, the number in and of themselves aren't really that high, it's just that there aren't that many ICU beds within the state to begin with.
Originally Posted by Kodiakisland
Originally Posted by UNCCGrad
Over 140,000 population in our county and 10 hospitalized with 0 in the ICU. 42 dead but most of those were from an outbreak in a single nursing facility. With numbers like that its hard to get into a panic. Our great Governor sure wants us to though...unless you want to loot, riot or deface property, then you get a free pass.


Here in AR, there is a real problem, but it is restricted to 2 counties. It would be stupid to enact statewide measures because of two counties. I live in the worst county, and am OK with the restrictions or requests they've made for the individual cities within the county. thankfully they aren't trying to make the whole state be lumped in with us. The one county I live in and the one next to it are responsible for about 1/3 of the whole state positives.


If the ICU beds in Little Rock are full, that's a bad situation because the hospitals in the rest of the state may not have the same capabilities as the hospitals in LR.
Deaths here................50% over 80 yrs old.
20 something percent over 70.
another 20 plus percent over 60.

So close to 95% of our deaths, over 60.
They won't however say how many were from nursing homes, had been in nursing homes or had contact with nursing home workers/patients.

Overall cases, some worked at a meat processing plant a couple counties over.
Dunno if any link from workers there to the elderly die offs.
Maybe somebody from same place had fam that worked at a nursing home.

Who knows? If anybody does, they aint tellin.

They are doing free testing local, the ol lady had it done, said it wasn't bad. Kid had it done per doctor, both had the nose swab.
Negative.

Dr wanted another swab test, this time down at his hospital, kid said it was not fun, they went way deeper and rubbed it around.
So does that mean all the tests done by the other place are not done correctly?






Originally Posted by Ramblin_Razorback
Originally Posted by Kodiakisland
Originally Posted by UNCCGrad
Over 140,000 population in our county and 10 hospitalized with 0 in the ICU. 42 dead but most of those were from an outbreak in a single nursing facility. With numbers like that its hard to get into a panic. Our great Governor sure wants us to though...unless you want to loot, riot or deface property, then you get a free pass.


Here in AR, there is a real problem, but it is restricted to 2 counties. It would be stupid to enact statewide measures because of two counties. I live in the worst county, and am OK with the restrictions or requests they've made for the individual cities within the county. thankfully they aren't trying to make the whole state be lumped in with us. The one county I live in and the one next to it are responsible for about 1/3 of the whole state positives.


If the ICU beds in Little Rock are full, that's a bad situation because the hospitals in the rest of the state may not have the same capabilities as the hospitals in LR.


LR hospitals are still OK, it's NWA that's getting hit hard. Several of the biggest hospitals have opened temporary overflow ICUs and have started transferring pts out of the area. The problem is once they get to the ICU, they usually stay several weeks. At some point you get no bed turnover.
Originally Posted by Ramblin_Razorback
Texas Medical Center in Houston - largest medical center in the world - ICU beds were 97% full on Thursday, and last night I heard directly from a physician who works in the medical center that the ICU beds were all full. They have surge capacity for COVID that they can tap, but to fill all the ICU beds is a big deal. I've heard the ICU situation is similar where I live now. Not a good time to catch a serious case of COVID or have any other need for an ICU bed in several states.


How about a little truth, hope you're not allergic:

Of total ICU beds at TMC Houston:

72% are non-Covid patients.

28% are patients with Covid.

Notice, they didn't report that the 28% were hospitalized from bolognavirus, only that they are "with Covid".

https://www.tmc.edu/coronavirus-updates/tmc-icu-bed-capacity-modeling/
They’re getting a lot of mileage out of this one.

Think for yourself and the light bulb will come on.
Originally Posted by Fubarski
Originally Posted by Ramblin_Razorback
Texas Medical Center in Houston - largest medical center in the world - ICU beds were 97% full on Thursday, and last night I heard directly from a physician who works in the medical center that the ICU beds were all full. They have surge capacity for COVID that they can tap, but to fill all the ICU beds is a big deal. I've heard the ICU situation is similar where I live now. Not a good time to catch a serious case of COVID or have any other need for an ICU bed in several states.


How about a little truth, hope you're not allergic:

Of total ICU beds at TMC Houston:

72% are non-Covid patients.

28% are patients with Covid.

Notice, they didn't report that the 28% were hospitalized from bolognavirus, only that they are "with Covid".

https://www.tmc.edu/coronavirus-updates/tmc-icu-bed-capacity-modeling/




That's true, but if the COVID cases triple, which is possible, they're going to be in trouble.

There's COVID hype and COVID reality. The reality is now it's a bad time to need an ICU bed in a lot of places.
You make too much sense, UNCCGrad, to the re-education camp with you!
Are people given medicine or treatment for covid19?
Originally Posted by mtnsnake
Are people given medicine or treatment for covid19?


Most are not. For the most part you treat the symptoms until they get to the point of needing the ICU. In our ER, we give them some cough syrup and send them home, even the elderly, if their O2 sats are good, which is most of them. Rarely do they come back needing admitted.
Originally Posted by Fubarski
The latest scam is to count everbody in the hospital that has Covid as a "Covid hospitalization".

Every patient in the hospital is tested every day for it, to try and pump up the numbers.

So, look for the next fake news ta be the "people hospitalized with Covid".

They're in the hospital because of appendicitis, broke leg, diabetes or cancer or whatever, but they're counted as "hospitalized with Covid".





Which hospital you work at?
Originally Posted by Ramblin_Razorback
There's COVID hype and COVID reality.


Yes.

The hype is that the cold virus will suddenly start killin everybody, which is the same bullshit liberals have been sayin since the propaganda started.

If the cold virus was actually a problem, hysterical posters wouldn't hafta "what if" about the worst thing that could happen.

All hype.

"What if" cold virus cases drop by 80%?

The reality is that the cold virus has never been a significant health threat, and never will be.
Originally Posted by UNCCGrad
Reports everywhere of Covid cases on the rise which with the added testing available and "protests" by those under 35 can only be expected. Governors and local govts re-closing businesses, parks, beaches etc but I'm not hearing that hospitalizations are sharply rising. It's like saying you're getting more rain after you put up a rain gauge. If you're scared, then keep your ass at home while the rest of us keep trying to make a living.

What's going on with hospitalizations and/or deaths near you?


Arizona is filling up hospital beds. Pima County : Intensive care units at local hospitals are at or near capacity now, and are utilizing the state's surge line to take in or move seriously or critically ill patients.

statewide, supposedly at 88% of ICU beds in use as of June 24, expecting to fill in July.

According to the news.
Originally Posted by Kodiakisland
Originally Posted by mtnsnake
Are people given medicine or treatment for covid19?


Most are not. For the most part you treat the symptoms until they get to the point of needing the ICU. In our ER, we give them some cough syrup and send them home, even the elderly, if their O2 sats are good, which is most of them. Rarely do they come back needing admitted.


That sucks when there is medicine you can take. Why not give Hydroxychloroquine 200mg twice a day for 5 days, Azithromycin 500mg once a day for 5 days, and Zinc sulfate 220mg daily?
Originally Posted by Fubarski
Originally Posted by Ramblin_Razorback
There's COVID hype and COVID reality.


Yes.

The hype is that the cold virus will suddenly start killin everybody, which is the same bullshit liberals have been sayin since the propaganda started.

If the cold virus was actually a problem, hysterical posters wouldn't hafta "what if" about the worst thing that could happen.

All hype.

"What if" cold virus cases drop by 80%?

The reality is that the cold virus has never been a significant health threat, and never will be.


I thought the hype was that it would all go away in April, when it warmed up?
Originally Posted by Sycamore
Originally Posted by Fubarski
Originally Posted by Ramblin_Razorback
There's COVID hype and COVID reality.


Yes.

The hype is that the cold virus will suddenly start killin everybody, which is the same bullshit liberals have been sayin since the propaganda started.

If the cold virus was actually a problem, hysterical posters wouldn't hafta "what if" about the worst thing that could happen.

All hype.

"What if" cold virus cases drop by 80%?

The reality is that the cold virus has never been a significant health threat, and never will be.


I thought the hype was that it would all go away in April, when it warmed up?


Your kghunt is dragging.

Again.
Originally Posted by mtnsnake
Originally Posted by Kodiakisland
Originally Posted by mtnsnake
Are people given medicine or treatment for covid19?


Most are not. For the most part you treat the symptoms until they get to the point of needing the ICU. In our ER, we give them some cough syrup and send them home, even the elderly, if their O2 sats are good, which is most of them. Rarely do they come back needing admitted.


That sucks when there is medicine you can take. Why not give Hydroxychloroquine 200mg twice a day for 5 days, Azithromycin 500mg once a day for 5 days, and Zinc sulfate 220mg daily?



Because it's mostly ineffective and has cardiac side effects. Really, for the most part more than half the people with the virus don't even know they have it, and most of those with symptoms don't need treatment.
You want to take high dose Vit C, D and zinc, as well as N-Acetyl-Cystine, that's maybe helpful and all over the counter, so anyone can take those if they want to.
Originally Posted by Sycamore
Originally Posted by UNCCGrad
Reports everywhere of Covid cases on the rise which with the added testing available and "protests" by those under 35 can only be expected. Governors and local govts re-closing businesses, parks, beaches etc but I'm not hearing that hospitalizations are sharply rising. It's like saying you're getting more rain after you put up a rain gauge. If you're scared, then keep your ass at home while the rest of us keep trying to make a living.

What's going on with hospitalizations and/or deaths near you?


Arizona is filling up hospital beds. Pima County : Intensive care units at local hospitals are at or near capacity now, and are utilizing the state's surge line to take in or move seriously or critically ill patients.

statewide, supposedly at 88% of ICU beds in use as of June 24, expecting to fill in July.

According to the news.


LOL
Originally Posted by Sycamore
Originally Posted by UNCCGrad
Reports everywhere of Covid cases on the rise which with the added testing available and "protests" by those under 35 can only be expected. Governors and local govts re-closing businesses, parks, beaches etc but I'm not hearing that hospitalizations are sharply rising. It's like saying you're getting more rain after you put up a rain gauge. If you're scared, then keep your ass at home while the rest of us keep trying to make a living.

What's going on with hospitalizations and/or deaths near you?


Arizona is filling up hospital beds. Pima County : Intensive care units at local hospitals are at or near capacity now, and are utilizing the state's surge line to take in or move seriously or critically ill patients.

statewide, supposedly at 88% of ICU beds in use as of June 24, expecting to fill in July.

According to the news.


A military hero and now an infectious disease specialist who went to med school? What a dum ghunt
The numbers "spiking" is to keep the panic going. I don't care how high the numbers get, they are doing more testing and have done a LOT. As long as they do that the numbers will go up. Truth is most don't need to even be treated, and 99.5% of the folks will live. So the important numbers aren't the number of covid numbers, as much as the number that die. And the last numbers are going down. Also even the hospitals don't seem to get in a big yank to treat anyone, they make more money if they have to put you on a ventilator and chances are 80% you will die once that happens. I talked to my heart dr the other night and told her if I get it I'm calling her, because I want the hydroxycloroquine and she said she did too, because it works. Actually she got Covid before they even knew about it and was never treated, but her blood tests shows she's had it. She thought she had pneumonia and it didn't last long. I've only known a few people that have got it, but only one was treated. The goal is to keep people in a panic mode and figure out how difficult the general population is to control. That is their goal. Count on another "crisis" before election time, and them trying to control the majority of people. If they can create another crisis they can push the mail in ballots so they can cheat, which is already being put in place. They will literally do ANYTHING they have to, to beat Trump.
With any luck it kills just as many people as they originally promised.

(Fingers crossed)
Hydroxychloroquine is great on arthritis. Doctors in Texas was saying it worked. I do not know. I am not a doctor.
The anti-american riots are calming down.

It's time to re-ignite the covid panic.
Originally Posted by Cariboujack
The numbers "spiking" is to keep the panic going. I don't care how high the numbers get, they are doing more testing and have done a LOT. As long as they do that the numbers will go up. Truth is most don't need to even be treated, and 99.5% of the folks will live. So the important numbers aren't the number of covid numbers, as much as the number that die. And the last numbers are going down. Also even the hospitals don't seem to get in a big yank to treat anyone, they make more money if they have to put you on a ventilator and chances are 80% you will die once that happens. I talked to my heart dr the other night and told her if I get it I'm calling her, because I want the hydroxycloroquine and she said she did too, because it works. Actually she got Covid before they even knew about it and was never treated, but her blood tests shows she's had it. She thought she had pneumonia and it didn't last long. I've only known a few people that have got it, but only one was treated. The goal is to keep people in a panic mode and figure out how difficult the general population is to control. That is their goal. Count on another "crisis" before election time, and them trying to control the majority of people. If they can create another crisis they can push the mail in ballots so they can cheat, which is already being put in place. They will literally do ANYTHING they have to, to beat Trump.

Who is they and them?
Originally Posted by mtnsnake
Hydroxychloroquine is great on arthritis. Doctors in Texas was saying it worked. I do not know. I am not a doctor.

Works in TX but CO elevation is an issue.
They and them are the democrat anti-American/socialist/communist and anyone wanting a new world order.
Originally Posted by SAcharlie

Who is they and them?


The people that have fugked your mom.
Here in Anchorage if you are admitted to a Hospital no visitors unless you are 24 hrs from dying, that to me is scary.
Originally Posted by mtnsnake
Hydroxychloroquine is great on arthritis. Doctors in Texas was saying it worked. I do not know. I am not a doctor.


I'm a clinical hospital pharmacist and am really ambivalent about it. If the doc wants to use it, fine, if not, fine. The few times we've actually used it was more of a why not than a real belief it works. If I get CD19 and start to get short of breath and my doc wants to prescribe it, I'd take it, but not with azithromycin, I'd also be OK not taking it by itself. The data varies and it's really opinion at this point whether it works or not and if it does, when and how much is at question.

Again though, the vast majority of people who test positive don't need anything other than a few tylenol and some cough syrup at most.
Originally Posted by Sycamore
[I thought the hype was that it would all go away in April, when it warmed up?


It did:

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm

Check out the graph.
Originally Posted by UNCCGrad
Reports everywhere of Covid cases on the rise which with the added testing available and "protests" by those under 35 can only be expected. Governors and local govts re-closing businesses, parks, beaches etc but I'm not hearing that hospitalizations are sharply rising. It's like saying you're getting more rain after you put up a rain gauge. If you're scared, then keep your ass at home while the rest of us keep trying to make a living.

What's going on with hospitalizations and/or deaths near you?
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Your ID looks like you're a UNC Charlotte grad maybe still in Mecklenberg Co? If so I can tell you that the next county north, Iredell, as of Thursday has had 672 confirmed, 17 currently hospitalized in our 3 hospitals, and 9 dead. 253 positive and self quarantined. Have heard "reports" from a few personnel in nearby areas that if a patient dies with flu like symptoms it's listed Covid if at all possible. Some things heard are questionable, such as elevated reimbursement / govt add ons bringing more revenue for Covid

My daughter is in Jacksonville Beach, FL and just says there's a "bunch" of cases new in the beach area which was one of the first spots to try open bars. Have to say close contact bars wouldn't be where I'd be found anywhere.

What bothers me is the numbers just say "people" 90% of the time. That covers a lot of ground. No good demographics. Which people? Already I'm hearing its racist to list "migrant workers" as a category. Fill in the blank on living conditions and social habits. Same for inner city public housing downtown with 8 people in a 2 bedroom with unknown outside activities. That is high risk. Is that a large part of the numbers? That's not racist. That's just a reasonable question.
Originally Posted by shootem
Originally Posted by UNCCGrad
Reports everywhere of Covid cases on the rise which with the added testing available and "protests" by those under 35 can only be expected. Governors and local govts re-closing businesses, parks, beaches etc but I'm not hearing that hospitalizations are sharply rising. It's like saying you're getting more rain after you put up a rain gauge. If you're scared, then keep your ass at home while the rest of us keep trying to make a living.

What's going on with hospitalizations and/or deaths near you?
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Your ID looks like you're a UNC Charlotte grad maybe still in Mecklenberg Co? If so I can tell you that the next county north, Iredell, as of Thursday has had 672 confirmed, 17 currently hospitalized in our 3 hospitals, and 9 dead. 253 positive and self quarantined. Have heard "reports" from a few personnel in nearby areas that if a patient dies with flu like symptoms it's listed Covid if at all possible. Some things heard are questionable, such as elevated reimbursement / govt add ons bringing more revenue for Covid

My daughter is in Jacksonville Beach, FL and just says there's a "bunch" of cases new in the beach area which was one of the first spots to try open bars. Have to say close contact bars wouldn't be where I'd be found anywhere.

What bothers me is the numbers just say "people" 90% of the time. That covers a lot of ground. No good demographics. Which people? Already I'm hearing its racist to list "migrant workers" as a category. Fill in the blank on living conditions and social habits. Same for inner city public housing downtown with 8 people in a 2 bedroom with unknown outside activities. That is high risk. Is that a large part of the numbers? That's not racist. That's just a reasonable question.



Maybe our area has not been PC as they've pointed out several times it's the Hispanic and Marshallese in our counties taking the brunt of the disease. There've been several of the Marshallese in their 30s die from it. Must be genetically predisposed to have more severe reactions. Those are also the majority of the poultry plant workers that have the highest positive rates.

NWA has the second highest Marshallese population in the US. The prevalence could also be due to living conditions, as well as genetics.

Quote
Marshall Islanders in Arkansas
The unique migration arrangement led to a Marshallese diaspora in the late 1980s. Islanders have settled in Hawaii, California, and Washington, but the largest continental population is located in Springdale, where the Marshallese found plenty of factory work, affordable housing, and excellent schools.
Most Marshallese in Arkansas labor in poultry slaughterhouses but are increasingly finding jobs in other sectors, professions, and self-established businesses. High school graduates are able to enroll in local community colleges and universities. English is widely spoken, especially by youth, but Marshallese (also known as Ebon, a Malayo-Polynesian language) remains the primary language.
Marshallese in Arkansas generally live in multi-family, multi-generational, and sparsely furnished households, laden with island artifacts, sea shells, woven wreaths, and faux flowers.

https://encyclopediaofarkansas.net/entries/marshallese-5972/
Had a coworker get it, he literally was the most vulnerable person I know that isn’t 70+ years old. 50+, Unhealthy, overweight ,sleeps with a CPAT , breaths hard walking up 6 steps. He checked himself into the ER and was released from the ER in 3 days. What we’ve been saying is that if he can beat it....anyone can. Had another coworker who got it, him , his wife and his daughter. Only he showed any symptoms at all and it was 1 day of feeling a little feverish, his wife and daughter never showed a single symptom. Buddy’s wife is an ER doc here in the Springs, she never saw a situation that was overwhelming or challenging to the hospital, in fact it was the opposite, nurses were being sent home because there was nothing for them to do since normal illness wasn’t being treated. What I don’t understand is as of late we’ve been testing at an astronomical rate, we know most people that get it are asymptomatic , is it a surprise that the case # is up? It’s like were not smart enough to understand why the case #’s are up. The chit didn’t magically go away, but it’s not even close to as deadly as they had us believing. IIRC H1N1 infected over 50 million Americans, do they think this will not do the same?
Originally Posted by SAcharlie
Who is they and them?
I think they're talking about you.
Originally Posted by ribka
Originally Posted by Sycamore
Originally Posted by UNCCGrad
Reports everywhere of Covid cases on the rise which with the added testing available and "protests" by those under 35 can only be expected. Governors and local govts re-closing businesses, parks, beaches etc but I'm not hearing that hospitalizations are sharply rising. It's like saying you're getting more rain after you put up a rain gauge. If you're scared, then keep your ass at home while the rest of us keep trying to make a living.

What's going on with hospitalizations and/or deaths near you?


Arizona is filling up hospital beds. Pima County : Intensive care units at local hospitals are at or near capacity now, and are utilizing the state's surge line to take in or move seriously or critically ill patients.

statewide, supposedly at 88% of ICU beds in use as of June 24, expecting to fill in July.

According to the news.


A military hero and now an infectious disease specialist who went to med school? What a dum ghunt


sad sack
Originally Posted by shootem
Originally Posted by UNCCGrad
Reports everywhere of Covid cases on the rise which with the added testing available and "protests" by those under 35 can only be expected. Governors and local govts re-closing businesses, parks, beaches etc but I'm not hearing that hospitalizations are sharply rising. It's like saying you're getting more rain after you put up a rain gauge. If you're scared, then keep your ass at home while the rest of us keep trying to make a living.

What's going on with hospitalizations and/or deaths near you?
.

Your ID looks like you're a UNC Charlotte grad maybe still in Mecklenberg Co? If so I can tell you that the next county north, Iredell, as of Thursday has had 672 confirmed, 17 currently hospitalized in our 3 hospitals, and 9 dead. 253 positive and self quarantined. Have heard "reports" from a few personnel in nearby areas that if a patient dies with flu like symptoms it's listed Covid if at all possible. Some things heard are questionable, such as elevated reimbursement / govt add ons bringing more revenue for Covid

My daughter is in Jacksonville Beach, FL and just says there's a "bunch" of cases new in the beach area which was one of the first spots to try open bars. Have to say close contact bars wouldn't be where I'd be found anywhere.

What bothers me is the numbers just say "people" 90% of the time. That covers a lot of ground. No good demographics. Which people? Already I'm hearing its racist to list "migrant workers" as a category. Fill in the blank on living conditions and social habits. Same for inner city public housing downtown with 8 people in a 2 bedroom with unknown outside activities. That is high risk. Is that a large part of the numbers? That's not racist. That's just a reasonable question.


I'm in Rowan. My work area covers the greater Charlotte metro area though. Gov Cooper likes to stir the pot with panic and fear and the media seems hell bent on making it into a panic regardless of how non-lethal it is.
Originally Posted by Kodiakisland
Originally Posted by mtnsnake
Hydroxychloroquine is great on arthritis. Doctors in Texas was saying it worked. I do not know. I am not a doctor.


I'm a clinical hospital pharmacist and am really ambivalent about it. If the doc wants to use it, fine, if not, fine. The few times we've actually used it was more of a why not than a real belief it works. If I get CD19 and start to get short of breath and my doc wants to prescribe it, I'd take it, but not with azithromycin, I'd also be OK not taking it by itself. The data varies and it's really opinion at this point whether it works or not and if it does, when and how much is at question.

Again though, the vast majority of people who test positive don't need anything other than a few tylenol and some cough syrup at most.


Good to get first hand input from a professional.
Originally Posted by UNCCGrad
Originally Posted by shootem
Originally Posted by UNCCGrad
Reports everywhere of Covid cases on the rise which with the added testing available and "protests" by those under 35 can only be expected. Governors and local govts re-closing businesses, parks, beaches etc but I'm not hearing that hospitalizations are sharply rising. It's like saying you're getting more rain after you put up a rain gauge. If you're scared, then keep your ass at home while the rest of us keep trying to make a living.

What's going on with hospitalizations and/or deaths near you?
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Your ID looks like you're a UNC Charlotte grad maybe still in Mecklenberg Co? If so I can tell you that the next county north, Iredell, as of Thursday has had 672 confirmed, 17 currently hospitalized in our 3 hospitals, and 9 dead. 253 positive and self quarantined. Have heard "reports" from a few personnel in nearby areas that if a patient dies with flu like symptoms it's listed Covid if at all possible. Some things heard are questionable, such as elevated reimbursement / govt add ons bringing more revenue for Covid

My daughter is in Jacksonville Beach, FL and just says there's a "bunch" of cases new in the beach area which was one of the first spots to try open bars. Have to say close contact bars wouldn't be where I'd be found anywhere.

What bothers me is the numbers just say "people" 90% of the time. That covers a lot of ground. No good demographics. Which people? Already I'm hearing its racist to list "migrant workers" as a category. Fill in the blank on living conditions and social habits. Same for inner city public housing downtown with 8 people in a 2 bedroom with unknown outside activities. That is high risk. Is that a large part of the numbers? That's not racist. That's just a reasonable question.


I'm in Rowan. My work area covers the greater Charlotte metro area though. Gov Cooper likes to stir the pot with panic and fear and the media seems hell bent on making it into a panic regardless of how non-lethal it is.


Cooper's pumping it alright. Used it to screw the Republican Convention quite well. But hey, we got a Black Lives Matter multiclecolored murial on a major downtown street that's now blocked for traffic. Guess that's a lot better than the millions in profit the Convention would have brought in for Charlotte business not to mention surrounding areas. When he try's to be serious and get people to believe him he reminds me of Mr Rogers.
To share some numbers for Arkansas. As a state we are having a huge increase in positives that mostly come from poultry plants and prisons. Of course those people interact with other people and then it becomes community spread, so they are a concern even though most of the numbers come from a small area.

First off, we know many people have no symptoms and will not get tested unless they are forced to by their job. So we know the known positive number is less than the real number. We just don't have any idea what that real number is.
Using the known numbers, Arkansas has a hospitalization rate of 7% and a mortality rate of 1.3%.
Now, lets just say there's at least 20% more positive who haven't been tested, that would reduce those rates to 5.9% and 1.1%. Who knows what the real number is. Maybe it's as high as 50% more who've had it as compared to who's tested positive. The hospitalization and mortality rates could be quite a bit less.

Will be interesting to see where the numbers are several months from now to see if it's trending up or down.
Originally Posted by shootem

Cooper's pumping it alright. Used it to screw the Republican Convention quite well. But hey, we got a Black Lives Matter multiclecolored murial on a major downtown street that's now blocked for traffic. Guess that's a lot better than the millions in profit the Convention would have brought in for Charlotte business not to mention surrounding areas. When he try's to be serious and get people to believe him he reminds me of Mr Rogers.


How we allow the City to block off a US route for the purpose of defacing state property is beyond me. I'm perfectly fine with the mural as it is an expression of first amendment rights, if they want to do it on City or private property. Cooper should lose Meck Co in November for the damage he did financially by tanking the RNC but that will never happen.
Originally Posted by kk alaska
Here in Anchorage if you are admitted to a Hospital no visitors unless you are 24 hrs from dying, that to me is scary.

Clairvoyance rules
Originally Posted by UNCCGrad
Reports everywhere of Covid cases on the rise which with the added testing available and "protests" by those under 35 can only be expected. Governors and local govts re-closing businesses, parks, beaches etc but I'm not hearing that hospitalizations are sharply rising. It's like saying you're getting more rain after you put up a rain gauge. If you're scared, then keep your ass at home while the rest of us keep trying to make a living.

What's going on with hospitalizations and/or deaths near you?


You should only look at the numbers that they tell you to look at. Also, put your damn mask, be very fearful, and stay glued to the NEWS! They are saving your life. Remember: A good citizen is a citizen who will call 1-800-Brownshirt to report violators.
https://www.google.com/search?q=cov...728j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
Originally Posted by Fubarski
The latest scam is to count everbody in the hospital that has Covid as a "Covid hospitalization".

Every patient in the hospital is tested every day for it, to try and pump up the numbers.

So, look for the next fake news ta be the "people hospitalized with Covid".

They're in the hospital because of appendicitis, broke leg, diabetes or cancer or whatever, but they're counted as "hospitalized with Covid".






Maybe where you are but not so in my county.
It just doesn't look that bad for a population of a little over 2 million and those cities with high fatality numbers have a lot of long term care facilities for old folks and invalids. I think a lot of these surges are just because of increased testing. We really have no idea how many people have had it and never got tested. Just stayed home and fought it off.
https://sbcph.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/44bb35c804c44c8281da6d82ee602dff
Originally Posted by Cariboujack
The numbers "spiking" is to keep the panic going. I don't care how high the numbers get, they are doing more testing and have done a LOT. As long as they do that the numbers will go up. Truth is most don't need to even be treated, and 99.5% of the folks will live. So the important numbers aren't the number of covid numbers, as much as the number that die. And the last numbers are going down. Also even the hospitals don't seem to get in a big yank to treat anyone, they make more money if they have to put you on a ventilator and chances are 80% you will die once that happens. I talked to my heart dr the other night and told her if I get it I'm calling her, because I want the hydroxycloroquine and she said she did too, because it works. Actually she got Covid before they even knew about it and was never treated, but her blood tests shows she's had it. She thought she had pneumonia and it didn't last long. I've only known a few people that have got it, but only one was treated. The goal is to keep people in a panic mode and figure out how difficult the general population is to control. That is their goal. Count on another "crisis" before election time, and them trying to control the majority of people. If they can create another crisis they can push the mail in ballots so they can cheat, which is already being put in place. They will literally do ANYTHING they have to, to beat Trump.

^^^THIS They can now demand mail in voting, and cancellation of all debates.
A few public treason trials would fix this problem quickly.
IDGAF about the hospital numbers, dgaf about the dead/recovered age numbers, all I want to see Jan. 2 2021 is the total number deaths in this country for the year 2020 compared to the total deaths in 2019, those are the only numbers that will matter, and will identify the fraud that is the kung fu flu.

If the demo-commies are able to steal the election, that revelation wont matter either, ALL will be lost.
Mortality is what we should be looking at. Currently Oklahoma's mortality rate is a screaming 0.1%. Case rates are rising but the state is ready for that More PPE is available. 5000 beds are sitting ready in case of a rise. Current cases in hospital are only 277 . Business openings are at stage 3 since June 1st and will stay open. Current unemployment here is 13% and going down. Shut downs were meant to allow the state to get ready and not overrun health care and is successful . The virus is not going away but neither are we . There may never be a vaccine so herd immunity is our pal . These are real numbers .
Originally Posted by okie
Mortality is what we should be looking at. Currently Oklahoma's mortality rate is a screaming 0.1%. Case rates are rising but the state is ready for that More PPE is available. 5000 beds are sitting ready in case of a rise. Current cases in hospital are only 277 . Business openings are at stage 3 since June 1st and will stay open. Current unemployment here is 13% and going down. Shut downs were meant to allow the state to get ready and not overrun health care and is successful . The virus is not going away but neither are we . There may never be a vaccine so herd immunity is our pal . These are real numbers .


You just need to be educated and throw that common sense out the door. Glad you guys have real leadership and not this clown show we have here.
Originally Posted by HuntnShoot
No point in looking at numbers if they are not going to be accurate.

This ^^^^^^^^ in spades. Just looked at the KY Covid dashboard. The historical data for the base line graphic for new cases has been altered significantly from what it reflected a week ago. The various government agencies, state and federal, seem bound and determined to manipulate the data to fit the agenda...
Originally Posted by gunner500
IDGAF about the hospital numbers, dgaf about the dead/recovered age numbers, all I want to see Jan. 2 2021 is the total number deaths in this country for the year 2020 compared to the total deaths in 2019, those are the only numbers that will matter, and will identify the fraud that is the kung fu flu.

If the demo-commies are able to steal the election, that revelation wont matter either, ALL will be lost.


Some good points..
Unfortunately much of the Healhcare system marches when the CDC, AMA, etc say March.
Don't forget how many medical professionals have to maintain tenure through the research and publication route which is structured much like the university system where grants and research budgets can be used as a carrot and/or stick.

And of course the capital (NC) region has no ties to medical/bio research does it?
The left’s goal is to make sure that anyone but Trump wins in November. Whatever the cost, the left believes its worth it.

The news media is fueling panic. Falsi continues to suck up to his leftist roots. 40+ years is too long in the role he’s in. It is time for his idiocy to retire from public discourse.

Hospitals and state health departments have mis-reported cases since taxpayer money was allocated per diagnosis. We have incentivized organizations to inflate the numbers as a way to stay in business. One hospital In my area laid off 1000 staffmembers due to lack of patients. Multiply that by hundreds of hospitals that went unused and are still unused.

Its time for folks with common sense to get on with their lives. Apply common sense to whatever situation you’re in based upon your health and that of your family. Don’t live in fear.
Originally Posted by Kodiakisland
Originally Posted by Fubarski
The latest scam is to count everbody in the hospital that has Covid as a "Covid hospitalization".

Every patient in the hospital is tested every day for it, to try and pump up the numbers.

So, look for the next fake news ta be the "people hospitalized with Covid".

They're in the hospital because of appendicitis, broke leg, diabetes or cancer or whatever, but they're counted as "hospitalized with Covid".






So that's what they do in the hospital you work in? Cause that's not the case for the hospital I work in at all. For the most part we don't want Covid pts and send them home straight from the ER as best we can. And no, every pt is not tested every day for covid unless there is a reason to believe they have it. Most only get tested on admit.


He's making schidt up again.
Originally Posted by gunner500
IDGAF about the hospital numbers, dgaf about the dead/recovered age numbers, all I want to see Jan. 2 2021 is the total number deaths in this country for the year 2020 compared to the total deaths in 2019, those are the only numbers that will matter, and will identify the fraud that is the kung fu flu.

If the demo-commies are able to steal the election, that revelation wont matter either, ALL will be lost.


Same here. But I'd like to compare this year to the most recent 3 year average.
I prefer to look at this the other way around.

Utah has just over three million people, and just over 20,000 reported cases. That means that less than 1% of the people "have it."

Of those who "have it" most are symptom-free - which in my book is just about as good as "not having it."

Of those who "have it" less than 1% are sick enough to be hospitalized at the moment (just over 150) which is a rolling number as most recovered and were released.

Of the total who had it bad enough to die from it (again just over 150) were less than 1% of those hospitalized.

All told, that means that 99.99% of Utah's people either don't have it, had it but don't even know it, or had it and recovered from it just fine.

So this whole damn scamdemic/dempanic is about 0.05% of the population. For Utah, that's fewer than five people out of twenty thousand if my math is correct.

For which we wrecked our economy, went trillions of dollars deeper in debt, and surrendered many personal freedoms to a passel of Chicken Littles.
Paul, do you ‘not‘ believe hospitals and nursing homes receive substantial federal payments for every Covid death or hospitalization?

Originally Posted by PaulBarnard
Originally Posted by Kodiakisland
Originally Posted by Fubarski
The latest scam is to count everbody in the hospital that has Covid as a "Covid hospitalization".

Every patient in the hospital is tested every day for it, to try and pump up the numbers.

So, look for the next fake news ta be the "people hospitalized with Covid".

They're in the hospital because of appendicitis, broke leg, diabetes or cancer or whatever, but they're counted as "hospitalized with Covid".






So that's what they do in the hospital you work in? Cause that's not the case for the hospital I work in at all. For the most part we don't want Covid pts and send them home straight from the ER as best we can. And no, every pt is not tested every day for covid unless there is a reason to believe they have it. Most only get tested on admit.


He's making schidt up again.
CASES ARE SPIKING
Testing is spiking....

Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors
CASES ARE SPIKING
Originally Posted by MIKEWERNER
Testing is spiking....

Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors
CASES ARE SPIKING



Again, I've been getting so much more rain since I put up a rain gauge.
"Cases" means "tested positive". It does NOT mean the person who tested positive is even sick, much less on death's door. For more than 90% of the positives, none had any symptoms whatsoever. All it means is that you were exposed, but your immune system took care of it without you even knowing.

You'd likely get as many "positive" test results for any number of other diseases - also completely symptom-free.

It's a scam, a hoax, and a deliberately manufactured panic.
Originally Posted by RockyRaab
"Cases" means "tested positive". It does NOT mean the person who tested positive is even sick, much less on death's door. For more than 90% of the positives, none had any symptoms whatsoever. All it means is that you were exposed, but your immune system took care of it without you even knowing.

You'd likely get as many "positive" test results for any number of other diseases - also completely symptom-free.

It's a scam, a hoax, and a deliberately manufactured panic.


Rocky speaks the truth.
I was looking at the state's website the other day.It was showing a huge spike in cases,but when I clicked on the link for deaths,it is a general flat line.I think it's blown way out too.The fact that they keep adding to the number of cases and never take away from that is what is alarming when people look at the total numbers.I also think the numbers are heavily inflated too.We had a person that died from it that claimed their residence here,but they were working in another state and died in that other state but was counted as a death here because this was their residence.They were never here during the whole time this has been going on.You can bet that person was counted more than once.Where I live we are a regional area.So if a person gets it in a neighboring county,but has to transfer to my county because they are going into the hospital,they too are going to be counted as a case in their county of residence and also again in my county because they are in the hospital with it in my county.You never here about false positive test and I'm sure there are a bunch of those.What about the number of people that have got really sick compared to the number testing positive that have had no complications from it.The virus is real,but the problem has been heavily inflated.
Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by RockyRaab
"Cases" means "tested positive". It does NOT mean the person who tested positive is even sick, much less on death's door. For more than 90% of the positives, none had any symptoms whatsoever. All it means is that you were exposed, but your immune system took care of it without you even knowing.

You'd likely get as many "positive" test results for any number of other diseases - also completely symptom-free.

It's a scam, a hoax, and a deliberately manufactured panic.


Rocky speaks the truth.





No kidding. Getting sickeningly old.

And Faux right there running with it every day 24/7.
I’ve seen where approximately 8500 Americans typically die each day. I want to see what the current numbers are. There are not enough dying from covid to panic. There never has.
Originally Posted by PaulBarnard
Originally Posted by Kodiakisland
Originally Posted by Fubarski
The latest scam is to count everbody in the hospital that has Covid as a "Covid hospitalization".

Every patient in the hospital is tested every day for it, to try and pump up the numbers.

So, look for the next fake news ta be the "people hospitalized with Covid".

They're in the hospital because of appendicitis, broke leg, diabetes or cancer or whatever, but they're counted as "hospitalized with Covid".






So that's what they do in the hospital you work in? Cause that's not the case for the hospital I work in at all. For the most part we don't want Covid pts and send them home straight from the ER as best we can. And no, every pt is not tested every day for covid unless there is a reason to believe they have it. Most only get tested on admit.


He's making schidt up again.


Now I remember you.

You're onea the Covtards that was screamin how we was all gonna die.

Nobody had any immunity to the cold virus.

Extremely contagious.

The cold virus floated through the air, like a helium balloon, til it landed in everbody's nostril.

Masks!

It mutates!

Exponential!

Efficacy!

In March, you'da ate the dried dogshit outta your front yard, if "Dr." Falsie had told ya it would save you.

You're immune to intelligent argument, but for the others on the 'fire, just one hospital, but they're all pannin for that extra .gov $13k in gold with every patient:

"Partners HealthCare is now running a coronavirus diagnostic test on every admitted patient at all of its acute care hospitals. As of Monday, inserting that long swab into your nasal cavity will be part of admissions from the emergency room and for patients transferred to the hospital. If you’re scheduled for surgery at a Partners hospital, you’ll likely be asked to come in for a test the day before.

Patients and hospital staff can expect to have the results within one to three hours.

Partners says testing all patients will improve safety for both patients and hospital staff.

Partners has also started daily coronavirus screenings on all admitted patients to catch cases that develop during a hospital stay."

https://www.wbur.org/commonhealth/2020/04/29/partners-hospital-covid-19-universal-patient-testing
I had a test Wednesday (negative) so I could have my colonoscopy on Friday (also negative). It took me 3 months to reschedule because of the “plague “. Interesting that the stores that have been open for the entire time and no spikes there. I really wish they tested antibodies because I will bet both my wife and I had it already.
Originally Posted by Fubarski


Now I remember you.

You're onea the Covtards that was screamin how we was all gonna die.

Nobody had any immunity to the cold virus.

Extremely contagious.

The cold virus floated through the air, like a helium balloon, til it landed in everbody's nostril.

Masks!

It mutates!

Exponential!

Efficacy!

In March, you'da ate the dried dogshit outta your front yard, if "Dr." Falsie had told ya it would save you.

You're immune to intelligent argument, but for the others on the 'fire, just one hospital, but they're all pannin for that extra .gov $13k in gold with every patient:

"Partners HealthCare is now running a coronavirus diagnostic test on every admitted patient at all of its acute care hospitals. As of Monday, inserting that long swab into your nasal cavity will be part of admissions from the emergency room and for patients transferred to the hospital. If you’re scheduled for surgery at a Partners hospital, you’ll likely be asked to come in for a test the day before.

Patients and hospital staff can expect to have the results within one to three hours.

Partners says testing all patients will improve safety for both patients and hospital staff.

Partners has also started daily coronavirus screenings on all admitted patients to catch cases that develop during a hospital stay."

https://www.wbur.org/commonhealth/2020/04/29/partners-hospital-covid-19-universal-patient-testing



This post had me dying. LOL

PaulB,

Say it is not so buddy. Were you a CovTard?
Originally Posted by Mike_S
I had a test Wednesday (negative) so I could have my colonoscopy on Friday (also negative). It took me 3 months to reschedule because of the “plague “. Interesting that the stores that have been open for the entire time and no spikes there. I really wish they tested antibodies because I will bet both my wife and I had it already.


In general, they like to make the test for antibodies a huge PITFA.
Originally Posted by Mike_S
I had a test Wednesday (negative) so I could have my colonoscopy on Friday (also negative). It took me 3 months to reschedule because of the “plague “. Interesting that the stores that have been open for the entire time and no spikes there. I really wish they tested antibodies because I will bet both my wife and I had it already.


Guess what happens when you test positive for antibodies?
Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by Mike_S
I had a test Wednesday (negative) so I could have my colonoscopy on Friday (also negative). It took me 3 months to reschedule because of the “plague “. Interesting that the stores that have been open for the entire time and no spikes there. I really wish they tested antibodies because I will bet both my wife and I had it already.


Guess what happens when you test positive for antibodies?


It means you survived and won’t get it again?
Originally Posted by Mike_S
Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by Mike_S
I had a test Wednesday (negative) so I could have my colonoscopy on Friday (also negative). It took me 3 months to reschedule because of the “plague “. Interesting that the stores that have been open for the entire time and no spikes there. I really wish they tested antibodies because I will bet both my wife and I had it already.


Guess what happens when you test positive for antibodies?


It means you survived and won’t get it again?


Nope.

It means you go into the "positive for COVID" column.
Sooner or later, the infection rate will be 99.9%
Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by Mike_S
Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by Mike_S
I had a test Wednesday (negative) so I could have my colonoscopy on Friday (also negative). It took me 3 months to reschedule because of the “plague “. Interesting that the stores that have been open for the entire time and no spikes there. I really wish they tested antibodies because I will bet both my wife and I had it already.


Guess what happens when you test positive for antibodies?


It means you survived and won’t get it again?


Nope.

It means you go into the "positive for COVID" column.


Ahh that would make sense.
Originally Posted by JakeBlues
Sooner or later, the infection rate will be 99.9%


And there will still be a whole lot of light bulbs that don't turn on.
Originally Posted by RockyRaab
I prefer to look at this the other way around.

Utah has just over three million people, and just over 20,000 reported cases. That means that less than 1% of the people "have it."

Of those who "have it" most are symptom-free - which in my book is just about as good as "not having it."

Of those who "have it" less than 1% are sick enough to be hospitalized at the moment (just over 150) which is a rolling number as most recovered and were released.

Of the total who had it bad enough to die from it (again just over 150) were less than 1% of those hospitalized.

All told, that means that 99.99% of Utah's people either don't have it, had it but don't even know it, or had it and recovered from it just fine.

So this whole damn scamdemic/dempanic is about 0.05% of the population. For Utah, that's fewer than five people out of twenty thousand if my math is correct.

For which we wrecked our economy, went trillions of dollars deeper in debt, and surrendered many personal freedoms to a passel of Chicken Littles.


It may not be Utah's turn, Rocky. Arizona had very little except on the Reservation through March and April. Now Phoenix and Tucson have plenty. NY is way down from what they had, enough that when you average across the nation, the US is down, but TX, FL and AZ are on the way up.

And everyone is counting on immunity, once we've had it. It may not work like that.

I find it quite telling how in this color coded map of current total numbers of positive Covid 19 test results per county they go from 0 to 50 positve cases using three color codes but only one for 51 all the way to 4,000:

[Linked Image from chfs.ky.gov]
Originally Posted by Sycamore


It may not be Utah's turn, Rocky. Arizona had very little except on the Reservation through March and April. Now Phoenix and Tucson have plenty. NY is way down from what they had, enough that when you average across the nation, the US is down, but TX, FL and AZ are on the way up.

And everyone is counting on immunity, once we've had it. It may not work like that.


LOL

Thanks, professor.
Originally Posted by Fubarski
Originally Posted by PaulBarnard
Originally Posted by Kodiakisland
Originally Posted by Fubarski
The latest scam is to count everbody in the hospital that has Covid as a "Covid hospitalization".

Every patient in the hospital is tested every day for it, to try and pump up the numbers.

So, look for the next fake news ta be the "people hospitalized with Covid".

They're in the hospital because of appendicitis, broke leg, diabetes or cancer or whatever, but they're counted as "hospitalized with Covid".






So that's what they do in the hospital you work in? Cause that's not the case for the hospital I work in at all. For the most part we don't want Covid pts and send them home straight from the ER as best we can. And no, every pt is not tested every day for covid unless there is a reason to believe they have it. Most only get tested on admit.


He's making schidt up again.


Now I remember you.

You're onea the Covtards that was screamin how we was all gonna die.

Nobody had any immunity to the cold virus.

Extremely contagious.

The cold virus floated through the air, like a helium balloon, til it landed in everbody's nostril.

Masks!

It mutates!

Exponential!

Efficacy!

In March, you'da ate the dried dogshit outta your front yard, if "Dr." Falsie had told ya it would save you.

You're immune to intelligent argument, but for the others on the 'fire, just one hospital, but they're all pannin for that extra .gov $13k in gold with every patient:

"Partners HealthCare is now running a coronavirus diagnostic test on every admitted patient at all of its acute care hospitals. As of Monday, inserting that long swab into your nasal cavity will be part of admissions from the emergency room and for patients transferred to the hospital. If you’re scheduled for surgery at a Partners hospital, you’ll likely be asked to come in for a test the day before.

Patients and hospital staff can expect to have the results within one to three hours.

Partners says testing all patients will improve safety for both patients and hospital staff.

Partners has also started daily coronavirus screenings on all admitted patients to catch cases that develop during a hospital stay."

https://www.wbur.org/commonhealth/2020/04/29/partners-hospital-covid-19-universal-patient-testing


You are wrong you dumb cundt. I said at one point when we were around 800 deaths per day that the number would double. I was correct. Now go fist yourself. I never was an alarmist, and I never played it off as inconsequential.
By all rights I should be a walking dead man. I'm 82 Y.)., diabetic, have high blood pressure and and a bit overweight. I feel fine. My lady friend is about 30 years younger than me, has been hospitalized with the Covid 19 early on, twice and is still seriously weakened by that disease. It didn't surprise me she came down with it as she's a nurse and has been working in the section of the hospital holding the covid patients. It sure has raised hell with us getting together. DAMMIT!

So what does this mean? Is it really not as bad as they say? Are there other factors that may aid in fighting off the disease? I've read that some doctors believe blood type may be a factor, stating those with type O seem to have a better time of it. It may be true as I know I'm O positive. Says so on my old Air Force dog tag.

Now the wearing of masks when out in public is mandatory here in Tucson and Pima County. Funny thing is prior to the order the only time I wore a mask was when I went to COSTCO to get certain things I like. I didn't even wear one at my doctor's office and the waiting room was full of sick people. he wasn't happy. grin

I've been stopped by people chastising me for not wearing a mask. I generally look then in the eye and ask, "Do you Really like living in fear?" I just add that I refuse to live in fear just because the government entities say I have to. Nuff said?
Paul B.
The running total is a joke.
Our county reports around 80 cases.


When you hear 80, your mind instantly sees 80 people sick as hell.
Many of them on ventilators.


The truth is 3 are dead.
Many are recovered.
Some are really sick.
And some tested positive and don't know why.

Now, the Red Cross is testing every blood donation for antibodies.
Only to compile data on the virus.

So now, we will be getting positive cases from people that,
Are not sick,
And didn't care enough to even be tested.
They just donated blood, and are now on the infected list, driving up the numbers/panic.

And their blood is just fine too.
But, I wonder, is it going to be processed normally?
Or does it have enhanced cash value for testing?
Originally Posted by PaulBarnard
Originally Posted by logcutter
631 dead now in Italy from the virus.


Out of just over 10,000 infected. That's a 6% mortality rate. Today they had the single highest death total of any nation for a single day. They have not yet peaked.


Originally Posted by PaulBarnard
Originally Posted by Calvin
Won’t be long and most people will have a story like this.


Yep. There will be a lot of sad stories by the time this thing goes away.


Originally Posted by PaulBarnard
If we did nothing to stop the spread, where would we end up with Covid fatalities? If we had taken aggressive measures to stop the spread of H1N1, what would the fatality numbers have been? In terms of resources required and duration, can you compare those who were in critical condition due to H1N1 and those who are critically ill with Covid?


Originally Posted by PaulBarnard
Originally Posted by Tyrone
Originally Posted by oklahunter
Tyrone, It’s not about politics. Your reply is the kind of stupidity I expect from dumbass teenage boys. Or Nigerian internet trolls.
Why should I quarantine myself when I really DGAS if I get it?


Because you may not know that you have it while being contagious?


Originally Posted by PaulBarnard
Originally Posted by Mike_S
If anyone thinks this “virus” hasn’t been here percolating since November of 19, well I have some ocean front property in Arizona for sale...


Where does that date come from?


Originally Posted by PaulBarnard
Originally Posted by sdgunslinger
enlighten us Paul , just which scientists have this mess all figured out ??


Jorge's better half doesn't have it all figured out, and she didn't pretend to. To the contrary she identified it as "slippery." She has enough of it figured out to make a great case for social distancing being the most effective tool in our box right now. Was there something she posited as scientific fact that you can substantively refute?


Originally Posted by PaulBarnard
Originally Posted by irfubar
Originally Posted by sdgunslinger
enlighten us Paul , just which scientists have this mess all figured out ??


The same one helping us with global warming.... wink


I'll take what is the difference in scientific fact and scientific hypothesis for $1000 Alex.


I got a million of em, Covtard.

How did that dogshit taste, BTW?
Originally Posted by Fubarski
Originally Posted by PaulBarnard
Originally Posted by logcutter
631 dead now in Italy from the virus.


Out of just over 10,000 infected. That's a 6% mortality rate. Today they had the single highest death total of any nation for a single day. They have not yet peaked.


Originally Posted by PaulBarnard
Originally Posted by Calvin
Won’t be long and most people will have a story like this.


Yep. There will be a lot of sad stories by the time this thing goes away.


Originally Posted by PaulBarnard
If we did nothing to stop the spread, where would we end up with Covid fatalities? If we had taken aggressive measures to stop the spread of H1N1, what would the fatality numbers have been? In terms of resources required and duration, can you compare those who were in critical condition due to H1N1 and those who are critically ill with Covid?


Originally Posted by PaulBarnard
Originally Posted by Tyrone
Originally Posted by oklahunter
Tyrone, It’s not about politics. Your reply is the kind of stupidity I expect from dumbass teenage boys. Or Nigerian internet trolls.
Why should I quarantine myself when I really DGAS if I get it?


Because you may not know that you have it while being contagious?


Originally Posted by PaulBarnard
Originally Posted by Mike_S
If anyone thinks this “virus” hasn’t been here percolating since November of 19, well I have some ocean front property in Arizona for sale...


Where does that date come from?


Originally Posted by PaulBarnard
Originally Posted by sdgunslinger
enlighten us Paul , just which scientists have this mess all figured out ??


Jorge's better half doesn't have it all figured out, and she didn't pretend to. To the contrary she identified it as "slippery." She has enough of it figured out to make a great case for social distancing being the most effective tool in our box right now. Was there something she posited as scientific fact that you can substantively refute?


Originally Posted by PaulBarnard
Originally Posted by irfubar
Originally Posted by sdgunslinger
enlighten us Paul , just which scientists have this mess all figured out ??


The same one helping us with global warming.... wink


I'll take what is the difference in scientific fact and scientific hypothesis for $1000 Alex.


I got a million of em, Covtard.

How did that dogshit taste, BTW?










You are a painfully goddam dumb cundt at that. Do you know what a question mark is? Is there one single thing I asserted as fact that was not factual? Was there one prediction I made that wasn't correct?
Every thing you posted was typical, hysterical Covtard bullshit.

Hint: Puttin a question mark after a stupid statement don't make it any less stupid.

OBTW, if your dogs have been on that grain free food, *stop* eatin their dogshit. It'll give ya a heart condition.
I really thought no one in the world would die this year. Boy, was I wrong.......Damn Kung Flu




Happy Trails


Bob
Wow, A lot of people here took that sh....it hook, line, and sinker.




Happy Trails


Bob
Originally Posted by RockyRaab
"Cases" means "tested positive". It does NOT mean the person who tested positive is even sick, much less on death's door. For more than 90% of the positives, none had any symptoms whatsoever. All it means is that you were exposed, but your immune system took care of it without you even knowing.

You'd likely get as many "positive" test results for any number of other diseases - also completely symptom-free.

It's a scam, a hoax, and a deliberately manufactured panic.

This board needs a like button.
Originally Posted by MIKEWERNER
Testing is spiking....

Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors
CASES ARE SPIKING




Pretty sure that was with sarcasm font if you look at AO's history of Covid comments.
Originally Posted by Fubarski
Every thing you posted was typical, hysterical Covtard bullshit.

Hint: Puttin a question mark after a stupid statement don't make it any less stupid.

OBTW, if your dogs have been on that grain free food, *stop* eatin their dogshit. It'll give ya a heart condition.


See idiot. I never asserted anything as fact that wasn't factual. When someone was spouting off hogschidt, like you were, I would question them. When someone was minimizing it as nothing more than the common cold or seasonal flu, I questioned them. When you research my responses, you'll see that answering the questions was generally avoided.

You are a goddman limpdigk blowhard of the highest order.
Originally Posted by smarquez
Originally Posted by RockyRaab
"Cases" means "tested positive". It does NOT mean the person who tested positive is even sick, much less on death's door. For more than 90% of the positives, none had any symptoms whatsoever. All it means is that you were exposed, but your immune system took care of it without you even knowing.

You'd likely get as many "positive" test results for any number of other diseases - also completely symptom-free.

It's a scam, a hoax, and a deliberately manufactured panic.

This board needs a like button.

True. This was known here on the board since March (did my research). "Cases" is just used to further the Covid propaganda.
Originally Posted by PJGunner
By all rights I should be a walking dead man. I'm 82 Y.)., diabetic, have high blood pressure and and a bit overweight. I feel fine. My lady friend is about 30 years younger than me, has been hospitalized with the Covid 19 early on, twice and is still seriously weakened by that disease. It didn't surprise me she came down with it as she's a nurse and has been working in the section of the hospital holding the covid patients..


Best wishes for her recovery, but you sir, deserve a free beer. Having a " lady friend " 30 years younger sounds like you're doing something right! haha

Rock On Sir!
A couple weeks back when the protesters/rioters were in full swing, we were saying...." in a couple weeks either we will know covid is fake news, or there will be a spike in sick democrats"....Well, here we are.

That said, daily deaths are not spiking.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

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Well, I just found out that the neighboring county, Riverside is spiking and why. Imperial county borders Mexico with a very active crossing, Calexico. So Mexicans are coming into Imperial county, and are overwhelming the hospitals and they are being tested then getting shipped to Riverside by LIFEFLIGHT. At least $2000 a ride and covered by the county. These people are not critical covid patients either, not going to ICU or going on vents.. Making things worse is these patients are becoming NEW statistics for Riverside Co. so in effect it's a 2 for 1 in the statistics column.
The dumbass governor had the balls to ask a couple counties to close down again and pushed harder on wearing masks. Seems like we need a large mask at the border.
I can totally see where my county is doing this too and keeping it under their hats.
Ya came outta the closet with the gay/biking thing.

IDK why you're not owning the Covtard thing. Cause now is the time.

It's just gonna get worse as the bolognavirus fades away.

And sometimes, as you observed, you can mix chronic assholia with hope for a cure:

Originally Posted by PaulBarnard
Maybe a silver lining in this mess is Trump's "Right to Try" law. If I get this crap I am going to request a trial of Anti-malarial and HIV meds.


There wasn't no question mark after *that* gem.

Looks like ya got bit on the ass by more than just a mosquito.

Like I say, own it, and don't eat the grain free leftovers.

Originally Posted by joken2

I find it quite telling how in this color coded map of current total numbers of positive Covid 19 test results per county they go from 0 to 50 positve cases using three color codes but only one for 51 all the way to 4,000:

[Linked Image from chfs.ky.gov]








...in the counties with 51 to 4,000 positive cases, as of today only 1 county is close to 4,000 at 3,820 --- 2 counties have above 1,000 but less than 1,500 positives --- 2 with less than 800 (785 /594) --- 3 in the 400s (495 / 428 / 405) --- 4 in the 200s --- 15 in the 100s --- and 19 counties with between 51 and 100 positives...
Originally Posted by Fubarski
Ya came outta the closet with the gay/biking thing.

IDK why you're not owning the Covtard thing. Cause now is the time.

It's just gonna get worse as the bolognavirus fades away.

And sometimes, as you observed, you can mix chronic assholia with hope for a cure:

Originally Posted by PaulBarnard
Maybe a silver lining in this mess is Trump's "Right to Try" law. If I get this crap I am going to request a trial of Anti-malarial and HIV meds.


There wasn't no question mark after *that* gem.

Looks like ya got bit on the ass by more than just a mosquito.

Like I say, own it, and don't eat the grain free leftovers.



Pause. Take a deep breath. Exhale the stupid. Tell me how the above supports your assertion below. Try to respond in a clear, cogent, non-spastic, non-breathless adult fashion.


Originally Posted by Fubarski


Now I remember you.

You're onea the Covtards that was screamin how we was all gonna die.

Nobody had any immunity to the cold virus.

Extremely contagious.

The cold virus floated through the air, like a helium balloon, til it landed in everbody's nostril.

Masks!

It mutates!

Exponential!

Efficacy!

In March, you'da ate the dried dogshit outta your front yard, if "Dr." Falsie had told ya it would save you.

You're immune to intelligent argument, but for the others on the 'fire, just one hospital, but they're all pannin for that extra .gov $13k in gold with every patient:

"Partners HealthCare is now running a coronavirus diagnostic test on every admitted patient at all of its acute care hospitals. As of Monday, inserting that long swab into your nasal cavity will be part of admissions from the emergency room and for patients transferred to the hospital. If you’re scheduled for surgery at a Partners hospital, you’ll likely be asked to come in for a test the day before.

Patients and hospital staff can expect to have the results within one to three hours.

Partners says testing all patients will improve safety for both patients and hospital staff.

Partners has also started daily coronavirus screenings on all admitted patients to catch cases that develop during a hospital stay."

https://www.wbur.org/commonhealth/2020/04/29/partners-hospital-covid-19-universal-patient-testing
The truth is right here, in this very thread.

I posted that hospitals were testin every day for Covid.

Your Covtard feelings got hurt. Your liberal side "felt" that this could not be true, so you called bullshit in it.

Without any evidence or support, like a good Covtard does.

So, the truth was posted: That hospitals do test every day for Covid. So it was *you* that was FOS.

And you just let it fly over your liberal head.

You're a Covtard to the core.
I made the charts below on 6/26 with CDC data.

Note- The covid deaths include all deaths where the person tested positive for covid. Covid didn’t necessarily kill them.

US data excludes NY b/c it’s common knowledge they fudged the covid fatality numbers big time.

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]
Originally Posted by Fubarski
The truth is right here, in this very thread.

I posted that hospitals were testin every day for Covid.

Your Covtard feelings got hurt. Your liberal side "felt" that this could not be true, so you called bullshit in it.

Without any evidence or support, like a good Covtard does.

So, the truth was posted: That hospitals do test every day for Covid. So it was *you* that was FOS.

And you just let it fly over your liberal head.

You're a Covtard to the core.


You said, and I quote:

"The latest scam is to count everbody in the hospital that has Covid as a "Covid hospitalization".


You pulled that straight out of your ass. You cannot back up that claim.

That hurt your feelings, so you went off on a convoluted rant. Pretty much every response to me has had the same breathless, spastic tenor. That's not saying much, because the bulk of what you post here is spastic, convoluted hogschidt.

I have neither been a "sky is falling" type and I haven't been dismissive. COVID is nasty crap and I won't take it lightly. I don't think we need to wreck the economy over it, and I am not going to quit living life to the fullest. I ain't going to be going to Jazz Fest either.

Let me remind you that you are one dumb fugkker.
Originally Posted by Wesley2
I made the charts below on 6/26 with CDC data.

Note- The covid deaths include all deaths where the person tested positive for covid. Covid didn’t necessarily kill them.

US data excludes NY b/c it’s common knowledge they fudged the covid fatality numbers big time.

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]


How is it possible to have flu deaths? Spaztard said every death has been counted as a COVID death.
Originally Posted by PaulBarnard
You said, and I quote:

"The latest scam is to count everbody in the hospital that has Covid as a "Covid hospitalization".


You pulled that straight out of your ass. You cannot back up that claim.


That was proven in the TMC-Houston link I posted.

28% ICU "with" Covid, not *from* Covid.

And Covtards are going hysterical, as you are now.

Relax. People can live for years and years with HIV.
Originally Posted by Fubarski
Originally Posted by PaulBarnard
You said, and I quote:

"The latest scam is to count everbody in the hospital that has Covid as a "Covid hospitalization".


You pulled that straight out of your ass. You cannot back up that claim.


That was proven in the TMC-Houston link I posted.

28% ICU "with" Covid, not *from* Covid.

And Covtards are going hysterical, as you are now.

Relax. People can live for years and years with HIV.


You don't know that Singing River hospital is doing that. You don't know that Ochsner Baptist is doing that. You don't know that East Jefferson is doing that. You are pulling stuff out of your ass.
Originally Posted by UNCCGrad
Reports everywhere of Covid cases on the rise which with the added testing available and "protests" by those under 35 can only be expected. Governors and local govts re-closing businesses, parks, beaches etc but I'm not hearing that hospitalizations are sharply rising. It's like saying you're getting more rain after you put up a rain gauge. If you're scared, then keep your ass at home while the rest of us keep trying to make a living.

What's going on with hospitalizations and/or deaths near you?

Last time I ran the numbers for NC the death rate was around 2%
None of the hospitals locally are full.
Any "increase" in cases seems to be a result of increased testing.
Originally Posted by Snyper
Originally Posted by UNCCGrad
Reports everywhere of Covid cases on the rise which with the added testing available and "protests" by those under 35 can only be expected. Governors and local govts re-closing businesses, parks, beaches etc but I'm not hearing that hospitalizations are sharply rising. It's like saying you're getting more rain after you put up a rain gauge. If you're scared, then keep your ass at home while the rest of us keep trying to make a living.

What's going on with hospitalizations and/or deaths near you?

Last time I ran the numbers for NC the death rate was around 2%
None of the hospitals locally are full.
Any "increase" in cases seems to be a result of increased testing.


How many tests per day are being done in NC? How has it changed each month since we started tracking?
Originally Posted by PaulBarnard
Originally Posted by Fubarski
Originally Posted by PaulBarnard
You said, and I quote:

"The latest scam is to count everbody in the hospital that has Covid as a "Covid hospitalization".


You pulled that straight out of your ass. You cannot back up that claim.


That was proven in the TMC-Houston link I posted.

28% ICU "with" Covid, not *from* Covid.

And Covtards are going hysterical, as you are now.

Relax. People can live for years and years with HIV.


You don't know that Singing River hospital is doing that. You don't know that Ochsner Baptist is doing that. You don't know that East Jefferson is doing that. You are pulling stuff out of your ass.


If they're not doing that, link it up.

Not that you liberals haven't done that in the past.

Remember "Dying with Covid?" Same scam, different day.

And you're not doing your "I'm not a Covtard" bullshit any favors with your posts in this thread, LOL.
PaulB,

I can't believe you went full CovTard.

You should be embarrassed.
Originally Posted by PaulBarnard
Originally Posted by Fubarski
Originally Posted by PaulBarnard
You said, and I quote:

"The latest scam is to count everbody in the hospital that has Covid as a "Covid hospitalization".


You pulled that straight out of your ass. You cannot back up that claim.


That was proven in the TMC-Houston link I posted.

28% ICU "with" Covid, not *from* Covid.

And Covtards are going hysterical, as you are now.

Relax. People can live for years and years with HIV.


You don't know that Singing River hospital is doing that. You don't know that Ochsner Baptist is doing that. You don't know that East Jefferson is doing that. You are pulling stuff out of your ass.



They are absolutely doing that.
It complements his white guilt.

Originally Posted by deflave
PaulB,

I can't believe you went full CovTard.

You should be embarrassed.
Observation in church today, 90% or better wearing masks, way up from last Sunday. Also attendance was at least 25% less. Most shaking hands and hugging etc then sitting down and screwing around the the mask that's worrying the chit out of them.
The mask may do some good if the user has some idea how to put it on and take it off correctly but what I see most folks doing while forced to wear one is actually going to cause more harm than good.

They don't just hand you a respirator and PPE in a nuclear plant, they make damn sure you can don and disrobe without spreading contaminates.

The statewide mandatory mask requirement will actually cause more harm than good IMO.

I wonder if this is the most studied and tested "flu" ever? Wonder if we tested, tracked and studied any other flu would not the numbers look the same?
Originally Posted by blindshooter
Observation in church today, 90% or better wearing masks, way up from last Sunday. Also attendance was at least 25% less. Most shaking hands and hugging etc then sitting down and screwing around the the mask that's worrying the chit out of them.
The mask may do some good if the user has some idea how to put it on and take it off correctly but what I see most folks doing while forced to wear one is actually going to cause more harm than good.

They don't just hand you a respirator and PPE in a nuclear plant, they make damn sure you can don and disrobe without spreading contaminates.

The statewide mandatory mask requirement will actually cause more harm than good IMO.

I wonder if this is the most studied and tested "flu" ever? Wonder if we tested, tracked and studied any other flu would not the numbers look the same?


Standby for questions about your PhD and if you majored in virology.
"I wonder if this is the most studied and tested "flu" ever? Wonder if we tested, tracked and studied any other flu would not the numbers look the same?"


Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by blindshooter
Observation in church today, 90% or better wearing masks, way up from last Sunday. Also attendance was at least 25% less. Most shaking hands and hugging etc then sitting down and screwing around the the mask that's worrying the chit out of them.
The mask may do some good if the user has some idea how to put it on and take it off correctly but what I see most folks doing while forced to wear one is actually going to cause more harm than good.

They don't just hand you a respirator and PPE in a nuclear plant, they make damn sure you can don and disrobe without spreading contaminates.

The statewide mandatory mask requirement will actually cause more harm than good IMO.

I wonder if this is the most studied and tested "flu" ever? Wonder if we tested, tracked and studied any other flu would not the numbers look the same?


Standby for questions about your PhD and if you majored in virology.



The Doc running the Mayo Clinic's COVID-19 research program was asked on live TV the other day if there was any research that proved wearing a face mask will protect you from getting a virus . He said there has been no research or trials that proved they did but they just think it's a good idea.
Originally Posted by okie
Mortality is what we should be looking at. Currently Oklahoma's mortality rate is a screaming 0.1%. Case rates are rising but the state is ready for that More PPE is available. 5000 beds are sitting ready in case of a rise. Current cases in hospital are only 277 . Business openings are at stage 3 since June 1st and will stay open. Current unemployment here is 13% and going down. Shut downs were meant to allow the state to get ready and not overrun health care and is successful . The virus is not going away but neither are we . There may never be a vaccine so herd immunity is our pal . These are real numbers .


Where do you get the 0.1% mortality rate for OK? According to the OK state health dept., the number of positives is 12,944 and the deaths at 385, which would give a mortality rate of 3%.
I certainly believe there are a lot more positives than what has been tested which would lower the mortality rate considerably, but I'm just wondering who's reporting a 0.1% mortality rate.
Originally Posted by RockyRaab
I prefer to look at this the other way around.

Utah has just over three million people, and just over 20,000 reported cases. That means that less than 1% of the people "have it."

Of those who "have it" most are symptom-free - which in my book is just about as good as "not having it."

Of those who "have it" less than 1% are sick enough to be hospitalized at the moment (just over 150) which is a rolling number as most recovered and were released.

Of the total who had it bad enough to die from it (again just over 150) were less than 1% of those hospitalized.

All told, that means that 99.99% of Utah's people either don't have it, had it but don't even know it, or had it and recovered from it just fine.

So this whole damn scamdemic/dempanic is about 0.05% of the population. For Utah, that's fewer than five people out of twenty thousand if my math is correct.

For which we wrecked our economy, went trillions of dollars deeper in debt, and surrendered many personal freedoms to a passel of Chicken Littles.



Your math is a little off based on the Utah health dept. They report 21,100 positives with 1396 ever hospitalized, which gives a 6.6% hospitalization rate. They also report 167 deaths for a mortality rate of 0.8%. Of those deaths, they do not break down if they died in a hospital or not, so it's hard to get a rate of deaths per hospitalization. If they were all in the hospital, the rate would be 12%, but of course it's much lower because many of those probably died in a nursing home.

Regardless, we have no idea how many positives there really are, so those rates are somewhat meaningless. What it does show though is Utah has a very low mortality rate regardless of what the real numbers are.
Originally Posted by victoro


The Doc running the Mayo Clinic's COVID-19 research program was asked on live TV the other day if there was any research that proved wearing a face mask will protect you from getting a virus . He said there has been no research or trials that proved they did but they just think it's a good idea.


Yeah.

It's called virtue signaling.

The medical profession is worse than most.

Originally Posted by Kodiakisland

Your math is a little of based on the Utah health dept. They report 21,100 positives with 1396 ever hospitalized, which gives a 6.6% hospitalization rate. They also report 167 deaths for a mortality rate of 0.8%. Of those deaths, they do not break down if they died in a hospital or not, so it's hard to get a rate of deaths per hospitalization. If they were all in the hospital, the rate would be 12%, but of course it's much lower because many of those probably died in a nursing home.

Regardless, we have no idea how many positives there really are, so those rates are somewhat meaningless. What it does show though is Utah has a very low mortality rate regardless of what the real numbers are.


Translation:

"Rocky is right."
I have only touched my face once in the last thirty years.
Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by Kodiakisland

Your math is a little off based on the Utah health dept. They report 21,100 positives with 1396 ever hospitalized, which gives a 6.6% hospitalization rate. They also report 167 deaths for a mortality rate of 0.8%. Of those deaths, they do not break down if they died in a hospital or not, so it's hard to get a rate of deaths per hospitalization. If they were all in the hospital, the rate would be 12%, but of course it's much lower because many of those probably died in a nursing home.

Regardless, we have no idea how many positives there really are, so those rates are somewhat meaningless. What it does show though is Utah has a very low mortality rate regardless of what the real numbers are.


Translation:

"Rocky is right."




He's right about it not being that big a deal, just off on some of the numbers. Was I not clear?
Originally Posted by Kodiakisland



He's right about it not being that big a deal, just off on some of the numbers. Was I not clear?


Clear? Maybe.

Succinct? No.
Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by Kodiakisland



He's right about it not being that big a deal, just off on some of the numbers. Was I not clear?


Clear? Maybe.

Succinct? No.


I'm a numbers guy, so if we're going to talk numbers, then we should talk numbers. Otherwise leave numbers out of it. Not sure how to make it any more quick and easy than I did.
Originally Posted by Kodiakisland
Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by Kodiakisland



He's right about it not being that big a deal, just off on some of the numbers. Was I not clear?


Clear? Maybe.

Succinct? No.


I'm a numbers guy, so if we're going to talk numbers, then we should talk numbers. Otherwise leave numbers out of it. Not sure how to make it any more quick and easy than I did.


If you were dealing with real numbers I'd agree with you.

COVID numbers are 100% bullschit and have been from day one.
Some fun for SmaulRetard, and maybe make Bristoe feel a little better:

"But then all of a sudden early in June the mainstream media did a George Orwell and lectured us that it is all about “cases” and has always been all about “cases.” Death, and especially infection fatality rate, were irrelevant. Why? Because from the peak in April, deaths had decreased by 90 percent and were continuing to crash. That was not terrifying enough so the media pretended this good news did not exist.

With massive increases in testing, the “case” numbers climbed. This is not rocket science: the more people you test the more “cases” you discover.

In Texas the “second wave” propaganda has gotten so bad that the leaders of the four major hospitals in Houston took the extraordinary step late last week of holding a joint press conference to clarify that the scare stories of Houston hospitals being overwhelmed with Covid cases are simply untrue. Dr. Marc Boom of Houston Methodist said the reporting on hospital capacity is misleading. He said, “quite frankly, we’re concerned that there is a level of alarm in the community that is unwarranted right now.”

In fact, there has been much reporting that the “spike” in Texas cases is not due to a resurgence of the virus but to hospital practices of Covid-testing every patient coming in for any procedure at all. If it’s a positive, well that counts as a “Covid hospitalization.” Why would hospitals be so dishonest in their diagnoses? Billions of appropriated Federal dollars are being funneled to facilities based on the number of “Covid cases” they can produce. As I’ve always said, if you subsidize something you get more of it. And that’s why we are getting more Covid cases."

https://www.newswars.com/ron-paul-the-media-is-lying-about-the-second-wave/

Even Ron Paul gets it.
Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by victoro


The Doc running the Mayo Clinic's COVID-19 research program was asked on live TV the other day if there was any research that proved wearing a face mask will protect you from getting a virus . He said there has been no research or trials that proved they did but they just think it's a good idea.


Yeah.

It's called virtue signaling.

The medical profession is worse than most.




Yep. You never want to be at a party with more than 2 cops, blacks or people in the medical profession.
This is the biggest ripoff in modern history. Fu.......ck the covid propagandists.
Hell. I’d let ‘em inject me with a viral load of the baloney virus.
Open your search engine, Google or whatever. In the search box, enter any number, 1000 or below, and then the words "new cases". Like this: "995 new cases". Then search. Do it a dozen times, picking a different number. Try it a hundred times. What you will find are innumerable links to "new covid19 cases" called news.

You should all understand that all these major news sites have an algorithm that will create whatever story on command, as a page loads. You should understand that it is ALL fake news. You should understand that you are being lied to everywhere, all the time.
Add in the antibody studies, and the CDC says 10-20X more were infected. So that bumps the numbers back. Then take a guess at "suspected to get federal money" cases, and the numbers are even less.
More positives with out ventilators is herd immunity.
Originally Posted by joken2

Originally Posted by joken2

I find it quite telling how in this color coded map of current total numbers of positive Covid 19 test results per county they go from 0 to 50 positve cases using three color codes but only one for 51 all the way to 4,000:

[Linked Image from chfs.ky.gov]


...in the counties with 51 to 4,000 positive cases, as of today only 1 county is close to 4,000 at 3,820 --- 2 counties have above 1,000 but less than 1,500 positives --- 2 with less than 800 (785 /594) --- 3 in the 400s (495 / 428 / 405) --- 4 in the 200s --- 15 in the 100s --- and 19 counties with between 51 and 100 positives...

The map in the URL below has count by county. Yeah, they could be a little more granular with the color coding.

KY Covid Dashboard...
Originally Posted by PaulBarnard
Originally Posted by Kodiakisland
Originally Posted by Fubarski
The latest scam is to count everbody in the hospital that has Covid as a "Covid hospitalization".

Every patient in the hospital is tested every day for it, to try and pump up the numbers.

So, look for the next fake news ta be the "people hospitalized with Covid".

They're in the hospital because of appendicitis, broke leg, diabetes or cancer or whatever, but they're counted as "hospitalized with Covid".






So that's what they do in the hospital you work in? Cause that's not the case for the hospital I work in at all. For the most part we don't want Covid pts and send them home straight from the ER as best we can. And no, every pt is not tested every day for covid unless there is a reason to believe they have it. Most only get tested on admit.


He's making schidt up again.


PaulCovtard. The gift, that keeps on givin.

Lindsey Rosales, a spokeswoman for the Texas Department of State Health Services, confirmed to Just the News this week that the state is categorizing every inpatient in the state with a positive COVID-19 test as a COVID-19 hospitalization.

"The number of hospitalized patients includes patients with a lab-confirmed case of COVID-19 even if the person is admitted to the hospital for a different reason," Rosales said.

She said the state does not keep track of the patients hospitalized with the coronavirus versus those hospitalized specifically because of it."

The number of hospitalizations are "being misinterpreted," said Houston Methodist CEO Marc Boom, "and, quite frankly, we’re concerned that there is a level of alarm in the community that is unwarranted right now."

He pointed out that his hospital one year ago was at 95% ICU capacity, similar to the numbers the hospital is seeing today. "It is completely normal for us to have ICU capacities that run in the 80s and 90s," he said. "That's how all hospitals operate."

https://justthenews.com/politics-po...nting-every-covid-positive-hospital-case
Texas,

it's like a whole 'nother country.
Originally Posted by Valsdad
Texas,

it's like a whole 'nother country.


Unfortunately, not.

It's like too many places in the US.

Pimpin bullshit numbers, to stir hysteria and justify .gov taking away Constitutional rights.
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