Never pull a weapon unless you’re going to shoot ! Brandishing a weapon will end badly every time. Never threaten , escalate , or instigate. If you’re in a life threatening situation then pull and shoot without any pause. I’ll repeat , never brandish your weapon and threaten.
Entitled coons. No respect for anything or anybody. But, I did not really see a need to pull her weapon.
Never pull a weapon unless you’re going to shoot ! Brandishing a weapon will end badly every time. Never threaten , escalate , or instigate. If you’re in a life threatening situation then pull and shoot without any pause. I’ll repeat , never brandish your weapon and threaten.
I would say being pregnant and threatened by a large racist black woman would constitute a threat to mom and baby. If mom would have waited until assaulted it may have been too late
Sure looks like it was set up to me, why even acknowledge the groids , or the grunting sounds that they make?
Only one mistake that I see.
Only one mistake that I see.
Yep, the husband should have dropped her on the spot !
Here is a c&nt that disagrees. There are MANY on the Fire. If you are pulling a gun, it's to shoot, period.
If I were looking down the wrong end of it, I would be scared so I would say that there is an intimidation factor for the bad guy that is not there with a pea shooter. Am I myself scared of it? Hardly.
It doesn't really matter what you would be, unless you are schizophrenic and defending yourself from you.
If you are pulling your gun out you should be shooting as soon as it clears and you are on target. If you're waiting for an intimidation factor you are already screwed.
And here, again, is what you should understand, but I'm sure you will not.
The only reason to pull a gun is to fire it. Good luck with intimidation factor, you're going to need it.
And you think he is delusional? The only reason to pull a gun is to have it ready to fire if needed. If you do not draw until you are ready to shoot you will have a problem...
Never pull a weapon unless you’re going to shoot ! Brandishing a weapon will end badly every time. Never threaten , escalate , or instigate. If you’re in a life threatening situation then pull and shoot without any pause. I’ll repeat , never brandish your weapon and threaten.
I would say being pregnant and threatened by a large racist black woman would constitute a threat to mom and baby. If mom would have waited until assaulted it may have been too late
And she may have gotten away with that if she wasn't already in the car. If everything happened the way the story reads I believe this was a setup in which the white couple miserably failed.
RJY66, what would you have done?
Every video sounds the same, like a herd of magpies squawking
[bleep] punt that bitch so hard her grandkids stutter.
Give it a year or two. Just the "white" part will be the crime. Don't say you weren't warned.
The white woman drove away....idiot.
She should have called the cops and said she feared for her life.
Stupid people ...just like on here!
Give it a year or two. Just the "white" part will be the crime. Don't say you weren't warned.
Sweet Jesus.
Never pull a weapon unless you’re going to shoot ! Brandishing a weapon will end badly every time. Never threaten , escalate , or instigate. If you’re in a life threatening situation then pull and shoot without any pause. I’ll repeat , never brandish your weapon and threaten.
Most encounters with criminals where the armed citizen was saved by being armed were accomplished by the mere drawing of the weapon.
Never pull a weapon unless you’re going to shoot ! Brandishing a weapon will end badly every time. Never threaten , escalate , or instigate. If you’re in a life threatening situation then pull and shoot without any pause. I’ll repeat , never brandish your weapon and threaten.
Most encounters with criminals where the armed citizen was saved by being armed were accomplished by the mere drawing of the weapon.
Do you pull your cock out with a chick without [bleep]?
Read the prosecutor’s statement. All they’re doing is encouraging more of this emotional, aggressive hysteria from these people because they are defended and exonerated of any wrong doing every time it comes down to it.
Their behavior causes these situations, and there’s always somebody out there ready to sue or convict anyone unlucky enough to have gotten into it with them. I’m not saying pulling the gun was necessarily the right thing in this instance but I can totally understand the lady’s frustration, she was pushed to her limits and just had had enough when they punched her window.
Probably should have just driven away at that point because you know no good will come from further confrontation but man, it’s getting where you need to have the patience of a saint to deal with these people. Especially nowadays, when they are emboldened more and more every day by society...
That's an awful lot of foolishness for someone accidentally bumping someone else.
I swear to god, women are a lot worse than men in escalating really petty stuff.
Probably should have just driven away at that point because you know no good will come from further confrontation but man, it’s getting where you need to have the patience of a saint to deal with these people. Especially nowadays, when they are emboldened more and more every day by society...
Spot on.
A couple of Black gals went out looking to become victims, they won the day.
Never pull a weapon unless you’re going to shoot ! Brandishing a weapon will end badly every time. Never threaten , escalate , or instigate. If you’re in a life threatening situation then pull and shoot without any pause. I’ll repeat , never brandish your weapon and threaten.
Most encounters with criminals where the armed citizen was saved by being armed were accomplished by the mere drawing of the weapon.
Do you pull your cock out with a chick without [bleep]?
Your thinking is inconsistent with police training. Cops draw and aim their guns at perps more often than they shoot at people. You want us to be MORE aggressive with our handguns than cops are trained to be? Yeah, that's a good idea.
... but man, it’s getting where you need to have the patience of a saint to deal with these people. Especially nowadays, when they are emboldened more and more every day by society...
Truer words were never spoken.
Never pull a weapon unless you’re going to shoot ! Brandishing a weapon will end badly every time. Never threaten , escalate , or instigate. If you’re in a life threatening situation then pull and shoot without any pause. I’ll repeat , never brandish your weapon and threaten.
Most encounters with criminals where the armed citizen was saved by being armed were accomplished by the mere drawing of the weapon.
Do you pull your cock out with a chick without [bleep]?
Your thinking is inconsistent with police training. Cops draw and aim their guns at perps more often than they shoot at people. You want us to be MORE aggressive with our handguns than cops are trained to be? Yeah, that's a good idea.
Sorry, so she's a cop?
That's an awful lot of foolishness for someone accidentally bumping someone else.
I swear to god, women are a lot worse than men in escalating really petty stuff.
Amen
Being just white and pregnant will soon be a felony.
Do you think it's wise to use your handgun in a more aggressive way than a cop would? You draw your gun, and the attackers don't follow through with what appeared to be the initiation of an attack, and you aren't privileged to still shoot them, but you'd be foolish to reholster your gun till the threat was neutralized one way or another.
That's an awful lot of foolishness for someone accidentally bumping someone else.
I swear to god, women are a lot worse than men in escalating really petty stuff.
No kidding. I've been seeing it a lot here lately. Women just looking for a scrap.
Calm the phugg down. Whatever happened to crying in your hankie?
If I was that dude, I would let off a good juicy, loud fart towards them. That would have been more of a language they understood.
And hopefully left them more insulted.
Do you think it's wise to use your handgun in a more aggressive way than a cop would? You draw your gun, and the attackers don't follow through with what appeared to be the initiation of an attack, and you aren't privileged to still shoot them, but you'd be foolish to reholster your gun till the threat was neutralized one way or another.
It really doesn't matter whether you have a badge or not.
The criteria for deadly force is the same for either.
Do you think it's wise to use your handgun in a more aggressive way than a cop would? You draw your gun, and the attackers don't follow through with what appeared to be the initiation of an attack, and you aren't privileged to still shoot them, but you'd be foolish to reholster your gun till the threat was neutralized one way or another.
It really doesn't matter whether you have a badge or not.
The criteria for deadly force is the same for either.
Nor did I say otherwise.
I suspected you were, based on your posts in the past, but wanted to clarify.
Here's the real "racisim":
Pontiac — Authorities say a bump between people outside a Chipotle restaurant in Orion Township escalated into an intense situation captured on video involving a white woman pulling a gun on a Black mother and her three daughters amid accusations of racism.
The word "black" shouldn't start with a capital letter if it's not their name.
Never pull a weapon unless you’re going to shoot ! Brandishing a weapon will end badly every time. Never threaten , escalate , or instigate. If you’re in a life threatening situation then pull and shoot without any pause. I’ll repeat , never brandish your weapon and threaten.
Agreed. Too many people think that because they have a CCW it's a license to use it at their whim and pleasure. Unless you're confronted with a threat of death or serious bodily injury, keep it holstered.
Just going to get alot worse! so glad I Live where I Do, if you know what I mean!
That's an awful lot of foolishness for someone accidentally bumping someone else.
I swear to god, women are a lot worse than men in escalating really petty stuff.
No kidding. I've been seeing it a lot here lately. Women just looking for a scrap.
Calm the phugg down. Whatever happened to crying in your hankie?
Yeah. White gal pulled the gun as a visual expression of "fugg-off!". I don't think it was for defence of life, but I wasn't in her head so don't really know what she was thinking. Angry gals do the stupidest things. A guy would've thrown a fist or two - much more reasonable thing to do and better way to express feelings
The white woman drove away....idiot.
She should have called the cops and said she feared for her life.
Stupid people ...just like on here!
The first one to call, is more likely to be believed.
Here's the real "racisim":
Pontiac — Authorities say a bump between people outside a Chipotle restaurant in Orion Township escalated into an intense situation captured on video involving a white woman pulling a gun on a Black mother and her three daughters amid accusations of racism.
The word "black" shouldn't start with a capital letter if it's not their name.
European and Asian start with a capital letter. Seems that when Black is used to identify a race the first letter should be capitalized, just like White.
Unless you're confronted with a threat of death or serious bodily injury, keep it holstered.
True, but drawing the gun doesn't mean you are required to pull the trigger. Often aggressive conduct stops as the draw is in progress, for obvious reasons. At which point you're not privileged to shoot, but it would be foolish to reholster till you were sure you were safe.
The white chick got into the safety of her car and and had the opportunity to drive off but then she got out with a gun pointed at the other chick, that's game over for the white chick
The white chick got into the safety of her car and and had the opportunity to drive off but then she got out with a gun pointed at the other chick, that's game over for the white chick
Did you miss the part where the black bitch blocked the car from leaving and pounded on the back window?
Maybe they should have just backed over her and claimed the back-up camera wasn't working?
The white chick got into the safety of her car and and had the opportunity to drive off but then she got out with a gun pointed at the other chick, that's game over for the white chick
Just a couple days ago in Provo Utah a fellow was driving through a demonstration and a protester shot him through the window.
Do you watch the news?
He wasn't to safe in his vehicle....
Are you stupid or dense?
Getting out of the car to threaten them might be hard to justify.
Ironic, but when they were blocked in, with a pissed off Swede beating
on the window, shooting her (from insideĺ might have been easier to defend.
So as white constitution/ freedom loving white Americans we have mine field of technical details we have to maneuver through while the minorities have none?
One mistake and you lose everything.....
Yet they can loot, kill, destroy with little to no consequences?
Fugg that
Yeah, funny how they can loot, burn, vandalize and assault with impunity though...
Yeah, funny how they can loot, burn, vandalize and assault with impunity though...
You got it Dryfly..... and as a bonus they are immune to the "covid"
That’s a tough one. I feel for the couple trying to get out of the situation and wind up being charged criminally and fired (of course). They shouldn’t have drawn I don’t think their lives were in danger at that point but that’s a bad situation. One where you have to just let some ghetto scum pick a fight over absolutely nothing, stick a camera in your face and taunt you with “you racist” BS. and then slap your vehicle while trying to peacefully leave and basically you just have to take it and let them humiliate you.
Anyone with sense can see exactly who the instigators are both verbally and then slapping the car but probably no charges for striking the vehicle of the couple trying to avoid the whole thing.
That’s a tough one. I feel for the couple trying to get out of the situation and wind up being charged criminally and fired (of course). They shouldn’t have drawn I don’t think their lives were in danger at that point but that’s a bad situation. One where you have to just let some ghetto scum pick a fight over absolutely nothing, stick a camera in your face and taunt you with “you racist” BS. and then slap your vehicle while trying to peacefully leave and basically you just have to take it and let them humiliate you.
Anyone with sense can see exactly who the instigators are both verbally and then slapping the car but probably no charges for striking the vehicle of the couple trying to avoid the whole thing.
Agreed, and in normal times you would be 100% correct.
These aren't normal times...
Besides pregnant, hormones etc.... let her go they are lucky to be alive...
Yeah, funny how they can loot, burn, vandalize and assault with impunity though...
You got it Dryfly..... and as a bonus they are immune to the "covid"
Oh yeah, I forgot about that little perk. Funny how the COVID be racis except to the loot - ugghhh, I mean, peaceful protestors.
If you clear leather, you'd better be right.
If you clear leather, you'd better be right.
Sorry but I disagree.... many have avoided being victims by drawing a weapon.... pretty simple to understand
If you clear leather, you'd better be right.
Sorry but I disagree.... many have avoided being victims by drawing a weapon.... pretty simple to understand
Yup.
So as white constitution/ freedom loving white Americans we have mine field of technical details we have to maneuver through while the minorities have none?
One mistake and you lose everything.....
Yet they can loot, kill, destroy with little to no consequences?
Fugg that
Them seem to be the rules.
If you clear leather, you'd better be right.
Sorry but I disagree.... many have avoided being victims by drawing a weapon.... pretty simple to understand
Yep.
That’s a tough one. I feel for the couple trying to get out of the situation and wind up being charged criminally and fired (of course). They shouldn’t have drawn I don’t think their lives were in danger at that point but that’s a bad situation. One where you have to just let some ghetto scum pick a fight over absolutely nothing, stick a camera in your face and taunt you with “you racist” BS. and then slap your vehicle while trying to peacefully leave and basically you just have to take it and let them humiliate you.
Anyone with sense can see exactly who the instigators are both verbally and then slapping the car but probably no charges for striking the vehicle of the couple trying to avoid the whole thing.
Agreed, and in normal times you would be 100% correct.
These aren't normal times...
Besides pregnant, hormones etc.... let her go they are lucky to be alive...
did you get Fubarski pregnant again
That’s a tough one. I feel for the couple trying to get out of the situation and wind up being charged criminally and fired (of course). They shouldn’t have drawn I don’t think their lives were in danger at that point but that’s a bad situation. One where you have to just let some ghetto scum pick a fight over absolutely nothing, stick a camera in your face and taunt you with “you racist” BS. and then slap your vehicle while trying to peacefully leave and basically you just have to take it and let them humiliate you.
Anyone with sense can see exactly who the instigators are both verbally and then slapping the car but probably no charges for striking the vehicle of the couple trying to avoid the whole thing.
Agreed, and in normal times you would be 100% correct.
These aren't normal times...
Besides pregnant, hormones etc.... let her go they are lucky to be alive...
did you get Fubarski pregnant again
Must admit your humor is makin great strides... LMAO
Oh and no.....hell no, that would be like incest.... hahahahaha
That’s a tough one. I feel for the couple trying to get out of the situation and wind up being charged criminally and fired (of course). They shouldn’t have drawn I don’t think their lives were in danger at that point but that’s a bad situation. One where you have to just let some ghetto scum pick a fight over absolutely nothing, stick a camera in your face and taunt you with “you racist” BS. and then slap your vehicle while trying to peacefully leave and basically you just have to take it and let them humiliate you.
Anyone with sense can see exactly who the instigators are both verbally and then slapping the car but probably no charges for striking the vehicle of the couple trying to avoid the whole thing.
Agreed, and in normal times you would be 100% correct.
These aren't normal times...
Besides pregnant, hormones etc.... let her go they are lucky to be alive...
did you get Fubarski pregnant again
Must admit your humor is makin great strides... LMAO
Oh and no.....hell no, that would be like incest.... hahahahaha
his 'no' means 'yes'
That’s a tough one. I feel for the couple trying to get out of the situation and wind up being charged criminally and fired (of course). They shouldn’t have drawn I don’t think their lives were in danger at that point but that’s a bad situation. One where you have to just let some ghetto scum pick a fight over absolutely nothing, stick a camera in your face and taunt you with “you racist” BS. and then slap your vehicle while trying to peacefully leave and basically you just have to take it and let them humiliate you.
Anyone with sense can see exactly who the instigators are both verbally and then slapping the car but probably no charges for striking the vehicle of the couple trying to avoid the whole thing.
Agreed, and in normal times you would be 100% correct.
These aren't normal times...
Besides pregnant, hormones etc.... let her go they are lucky to be alive...
did you get Fubarski pregnant again
Must admit your humor is makin great strides... LMAO
Oh and no.....hell no, that would be like incest.... hahahahaha
his 'no' means 'yes'
Are you saying Fubarski is a slut?
Not very nice....
If you clear leather, you'd better be right.
Sorry but I disagree.... many have avoided being victims by drawing a weapon.... pretty simple to understand
Yep.
You all are saying you don't have to be right to brandish a weapon? I'm saying it had better be a life or death situation or you will be fighting an uphill battle. I guess you guys have better lawyers than most folks.
That’s a tough one. I feel for the couple trying to get out of the situation and wind up being charged criminally and fired (of course). They shouldn’t have drawn I don’t think their lives were in danger at that point but that’s a bad situation. One where you have to just let some ghetto scum pick a fight over absolutely nothing, stick a camera in your face and taunt you with “you racist” BS. and then slap your vehicle while trying to peacefully leave and basically you just have to take it and let them humiliate you.
Anyone with sense can see exactly who the instigators are both verbally and then slapping the car but probably no charges for striking the vehicle of the couple trying to avoid the whole thing.
Agreed, and in normal times you would be 100% correct.
These aren't normal times...
Besides pregnant, hormones etc.... let her go they are lucky to be alive...
did you get Fubarski pregnant again
Must admit your humor is makin great strides... LMAO
Oh and no.....hell no, that would be like incest.... hahahahaha
his 'no' means 'yes'
Are you saying Fubarski is a slut?
Not very nice....
that would make u a 'slut puppy'...LOL
If you clear leather, you'd better be right.
Sorry but I disagree.... many have avoided being victims by drawing a weapon.... pretty simple to understand
Yep.
You all are saying you don't have to be right to brandish a weapon? I guess you have better lawyers than most folks.
Self defense is a god given right and the right to bear arms is in the constitution..... if you live where they don't recognize that maybe you should move?
That’s a tough one. I feel for the couple trying to get out of the situation and wind up being charged criminally and fired (of course). They shouldn’t have drawn I don’t think their lives were in danger at that point but that’s a bad situation. One where you have to just let some ghetto scum pick a fight over absolutely nothing, stick a camera in your face and taunt you with “you racist” BS. and then slap your vehicle while trying to peacefully leave and basically you just have to take it and let them humiliate you.
Anyone with sense can see exactly who the instigators are both verbally and then slapping the car but probably no charges for striking the vehicle of the couple trying to avoid the whole thing.
Agreed, and in normal times you would be 100% correct.
These aren't normal times...
Besides pregnant, hormones etc.... let her go they are lucky to be alive...
did you get Fubarski pregnant again
Must admit your humor is makin great strides... LMAO
Oh and no.....hell no, that would be like incest.... hahahahaha
his 'no' means 'yes'
Are you saying Fubarski is a slut?
Not very nice....
that would make u a 'slut puppy'...LOL
And to think you were doing so good...... try again.....
If it weren’t for the times we’re currently going through, I would say that her pulling the weapon was the wrong move. But fugg that, if my pregnant wife didn’t draw the gun, then I would have.
If you clear leather, you'd better be right.
Sorry but I disagree.... many have avoided being victims by drawing a weapon.... pretty simple to understand
Not to mention, in our great state of Montana presenting (Brandishing your firearm) is acceptable under MT. Code:
https://leg.mt.gov/bills/mca/45/3/45-3-111.htmAny person who is not otherwise prohibited from doing so by federal or state law may openly carry a weapon and may communicate to another person the fact that the person has a weapon.
(2) If a person reasonably believes that the person or another person is threatened with bodily harm, the person may warn or threaten the use of force, including deadly force, against the aggressor, i
ncluding drawing or presenting a weapon."
If you clear leather, you'd better be right.
Sorry but I disagree.... many have avoided being victims by drawing a weapon.... pretty simple to understand
Not to mention, in our great state of Montana presenting (Brandishing your firearm) is acceptable under MT. Code:
https://leg.mt.gov/bills/mca/45/3/45-3-111.htmAny person who is not otherwise prohibited from doing so by federal or state law may openly carry a weapon and may communicate to another person the fact that the person has a weapon.
(2) If a person reasonably believes that the person or another person is threatened with bodily harm, the person may warn or threaten the use of force, including deadly force, against the aggressor, i
ncluding drawing or presenting a weapon."Correct SBTCO...... people in Marxist states need to realize it's not that way everywhere and they can do something about it....
There is an old saying,"A conservative is a liberal that s been mugged."
The more this happens the more white people getting REALLY pissed off.
Blacks are only 13% of the population,God help them if we get off the couch.
Get off my lawn.
....................................................................except in the free state of Oklahoma, a woman or old folk can damn near shoot you for anything here and walk.
I'm good with that.
The white chick got into the safety of her car and and had the opportunity to drive off but then she got out with a gun pointed at the other chick, that's game over for the white chick
Did you miss the part where the black bitch blocked the car from leaving and pounded on the back window?
No, I didn't miss that point but I agree with getting out of the vehicle was a serious mistake. Mistake #2. Cannot believe that either the woman or her husband did not have a cell phone and called the cops.
Paul B.
Why was the husband arrested?
Why was the husband arrested?
I had the same question. Neither should have been. The mob of instigators should have been arrested on multiple counts, but let's just stretch our imagination to the point of accepting that the White chick did something wrong in presenting her weapon to the the savages. Her husband didn't do anything. What is their excuse for arresting
him?
What do you guys think of the officers making the arrest? just following orders?
We are suppose to support the police.... yet they do the Marxist D.A. and governors dirty work..... hmmmmm