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Why are they not all rounded up and waiting for their court appear?
Originally Posted by mtnsnake
Why are they not all rounded up and waiting for their court appear?


What's your plan?

How exactly would that work?

Do you have a membership list?

Do you plan to go door-to-door?

What are the exact charges you are proposing?

Do you see any constitutional issues with your proposal?
Originally Posted by mtnsnake
Why are they not all rounded up and waiting for their court appear?

And you begin to see now, perhaps, how utterly pointless declaring them terrorists actually is, and how all Trump was doing was pandering to the simple-minded.
Drink some more Kool-Aid.
Originally Posted by HuntnShoot
Originally Posted by mtnsnake
Why are they not all rounded up and waiting for their court appear?

And you begin to see now, perhaps, how utterly pointless declaring them terrorists actually is, and how all Trump was doing was pandering to the simple-minded.


If Trump could declare them a terrorist organization there would be significant benefits to law enforcement operations against the group. The problem is, the only official federal designation is an FTO. Here's a clue, the F standard for Foreign.

All you so called Constitutionalist keep forgetting about things like the First Amendment, and the freedom to associate.

Now apply your proposal in reverse. What happens if President Stacey Abrams declares the NRA, GOA etc. "Terrorist Organizations", and begins rounding up dues paying members on the basis on membership and no underlying crime.
Antifa is an arm of the Democrat party, and as such is protected, bigly.
Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Originally Posted by HuntnShoot
Originally Posted by mtnsnake
Why are they not all rounded up and waiting for their court appear?

And you begin to see now, perhaps, how utterly pointless declaring them terrorists actually is, and how all Trump was doing was pandering to the simple-minded.


If Trump could declare them a terrorist organization there would be significant benefits to law enforcement operations against the group. The problem is, the only official federal designation is an FTO. Here's a clue, the F standard for Foreign.

All you so called Constitutionalist keep forgetting about things like the First Amendment, and the freedom to associate.

Now apply your proposal in reverse. What happens if President Stacey Abrams declares the NRA, GOA etc. "Terrorist Organizations", and begins rounding up dues paying members on the basis on membership and no underlying crime.


That's the scary thing, and its even more scary that a lot of "conservatives" can't comprehend it.
Originally Posted by PeeDeeRiver
Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Originally Posted by HuntnShoot
Originally Posted by mtnsnake
Why are they not all rounded up and waiting for their court appear?

And you begin to see now, perhaps, how utterly pointless declaring them terrorists actually is, and how all Trump was doing was pandering to the simple-minded.


If Trump could declare them a terrorist organization there would be significant benefits to law enforcement operations against the group. The problem is, the only official federal designation is an FTO. Here's a clue, the F standard for Foreign.

All you so called Constitutionalist keep forgetting about things like the First Amendment, and the freedom to associate.

Now apply your proposal in reverse. What happens if President Stacey Abrams declares the NRA, GOA etc. "Terrorist Organizations", and begins rounding up dues paying members on the basis on membership and no underlying crime.


That's the scary thing, and its even more scary that a lot of "conservatives" can't comprehend it.


I believe the city of San Francisco has declared that the NRA is a domestic terrorist organization. The trend is starting. There have been plenty of other politicians and left wing leaders who have publicly said that right leaning white men are the most dangerous terrorist in the US.
Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Originally Posted by HuntnShoot
Originally Posted by mtnsnake
Why are they not all rounded up and waiting for their court appear?

And you begin to see now, perhaps, how utterly pointless declaring them terrorists actually is, and how all Trump was doing was pandering to the simple-minded.


If Trump could declare them a terrorist organization there would be significant benefits to law enforcement operations against the group. The problem is, the only official federal designation is an FTO. Here's a clue, the F standard for Foreign.

All you so called Constitutionalist keep forgetting about things like the First Amendment, and the freedom to associate.

Now apply your proposal in reverse. What happens if President Stacey Abrams declares the NRA, GOA etc. "Terrorist Organizations", and begins rounding up dues paying members on the basis on membership and no underlying crime.

Criminals don't have "freedom to associate". It is called conspiracy. The 1st Amendment does not cover violence. And I am not a "Constitutionalist". I am a pissed off guy with a 150 IQ, several children, a lot of common sense, and an insatiable desire to learn. Thanks for your opinion.
Originally Posted by mtnsnake
Why are they not all rounded up and waiting for their court appear?


In America ANTIFA members respond to extreme Alt-Right (various militia groups, for example), Skinheads and Neo-Nazis. American ANTIFA has no formal central leadership or organization. Obviously it is far less dangerous then certain Alt-Right groups and is not a terrorist organization.
Originally Posted by PeeDeeRiver
Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Originally Posted by HuntnShoot
Originally Posted by mtnsnake
Why are they not all rounded up and waiting for their court appear?

And you begin to see now, perhaps, how utterly pointless declaring them terrorists actually is, and how all Trump was doing was pandering to the simple-minded.


If Trump could declare them a terrorist organization there would be significant benefits to law enforcement operations against the group. The problem is, the only official federal designation is an FTO. Here's a clue, the F standard for Foreign.

All you so called Constitutionalist keep forgetting about things like the First Amendment, and the freedom to associate.

Now apply your proposal in reverse. What happens if President Stacey Abrams declares the NRA, GOA etc. "Terrorist Organizations", and begins rounding up dues paying members on the basis on membership and no underlying crime.


That's the scary thing, and its even more scary that a lot of "conservatives" can't comprehend it.


I'm thinking you and AS dont know as much about the constitution as u think you do.

Over a hundred of the BLM and Antifa directed suckers have been arrested all ready and being charged with the crimes they have lately committed.

You also dont know what powers of confiscation of property Trump has when we are in a declared state of war and when the POTUS has declared we are in a state of National Emergency. The DOJ can confiscate all property owned by groups who dealt with foreign sources to overthrow the constitution or an election or effect an illegal coup. This includes CNN and NBC. It just wouldnt look good to do it now before an election.

Also, on DJT day, 4 -10- 20, Good Friday, Wyoming became the 50th state to declare a state of emergency. It's never happened before and gives him constitutional powers never before held by a POTUS. Like, uh, telling GM to start mfg respirators whether they like it or not, for example.

In essence, he can essentially be a dictator and commandeer every TV and radio station in the US legally.

As I say, that would not look good before the election.

He can commandeer and use as a military installation any business in the US and many other things such as closing banks and the internet.

Hide and watch. You ain't seen nothing yet.
Here is the 3rd installment on antifa being an international organization and as such can be declared a terrorist organization.

If you will remember, some of our Fire liebs were pretty vociferous not long ago saying they couldnt be declared a T org because they werent international.

In fact, it may be that Trump, with his newfound constitutional powers, does not now have to go through "proper" channels to "getter done".

I know some of you can figure out why the MSM is not revealing this info.

https://www.gloucestercitynews.net/...-the-exposeantifa-series-which-debu.html
Anyone can declare anything. The feds can not designate chit currently or would have done so. Is there foriegn money coming in, designate outside the United States and freeze their dollars? Rico?
Odds are good that federal law enforcement is keeping an eye on extremists on both the far left and the far right. Interesting article on the boogaloo movement as the last paragraph is very telling.

https://www.theatlantic.com/technol...galoo-meme-or-terrorist-movement/613843/

Quote
Indeed, before most people, including myself, got wind of the boogaloo movement, Rutgers University had generated a “contagion and ideology report” for law-enforcement agencies in February that detailed the group’s online network. Its conclusion: The boogaloo boys are terrorists. Its recommendations: more law enforcement, more surveillance.
Originally Posted by Slavek
Originally Posted by mtnsnake
Why are they not all rounded up and waiting for their court appear?


In America ANTIFA members respond to extreme Alt-Right (various militia groups, for example), Skinheads and Neo-Nazis. American ANTIFA has no formal central leadership or organization. Obviously it is far less dangerous then certain Alt-Right groups and is not a terrorist organization.


Is that you, Don Lemon?

You just spouted the narrative the media wants you to believe.
Originally Posted by Slavek
Originally Posted by mtnsnake
Why are they not all rounded up and waiting for their court appear?


In America ANTIFA members respond to extreme Alt-Right (various militia groups, for example), Skinheads and Neo-Nazis. American ANTIFA has no formal central leadership or organization. Obviously it is far less dangerous then certain Alt-Right groups and is not a terrorist organization.


Ok then leftard name a current event that destroyed property, assaulted the populace, and spread the Chinese virus and was carried out by an "alt right" extremist group. Antifa is part of the CPUSA as is BLM, since you are such an ignorant SOB I expect a clear and concise answer.
Originally Posted by Slavek
Originally Posted by mtnsnake
Why are they not all rounded up and waiting for their court appear?


In America ANTIFA members respond to extreme Alt-Right (various militia groups, for example), Skinheads and Neo-Nazis. American ANTIFA has no formal central leadership or organization. Obviously it is far less dangerous then certain Alt-Right groups and is not a terrorist organization.



Says who? You?

Keep drinking that Kool-Aid, comrade.

Laughing.
Part of me hopes they let them get out of control to the point where Trump just makes an announcement Deputizing the rest of us. You know the rest- end of infestation.
Will monuments be considered bait? Bag limits? Sun up to sun down .....
Originally Posted by AB2506
Originally Posted by Slavek
Originally Posted by mtnsnake
Why are they not all rounded up and waiting for their court appear?


In America ANTIFA members respond to extreme Alt-Right (various militia groups, for example), Skinheads and Neo-Nazis. American ANTIFA has no formal central leadership or organization. Obviously it is far less dangerous then certain Alt-Right groups and is not a terrorist organization.


Is that you, Don Lemon?

You just spouted the narrative the media wants you to believe.

Leroy in disguise.
Originally Posted by Slavek
In America ANTIFA members respond to extreme Alt-Right (various militia groups, for example), Skinheads and Neo-Nazis. American ANTIFA has no formal central leadership or organization. Obviously it is far less dangerous then certain Alt-Right groups and is not a terrorist organization

You're a liar.
Originally Posted by Slavek
Originally Posted by mtnsnake
Why are they not all rounded up and waiting for their court appear?


In America ANTIFA members respond to extreme Alt-Right (various militia groups, for example), Skinheads and Neo-Nazis. American ANTIFA has no formal central leadership or organization. Obviously it is far less dangerous then certain Alt-Right groups and is not a terrorist organization.


You're a liar. There is also proof they operate internationally. I guess for you, it's necessary for me to repeat myself.

Originally Posted by HuntnShoot
Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Originally Posted by HuntnShoot
Originally Posted by mtnsnake
Why are they not all rounded up and waiting for their court appear?

And you begin to see now, perhaps, how utterly pointless declaring them terrorists actually is, and how all Trump was doing was pandering to the simple-minded.


If Trump could declare them a terrorist organization there would be significant benefits to law enforcement operations against the group. The problem is, the only official federal designation is an FTO. Here's a clue, the F standard for Foreign.

All you so called Constitutionalist keep forgetting about things like the First Amendment, and the freedom to associate.

Now apply your proposal in reverse. What happens if President Stacey Abrams declares the NRA, GOA etc. "Terrorist Organizations", and begins rounding up dues paying members on the basis on membership and no underlying crime.

Criminals don't have "freedom to associate". It is called conspiracy. The 1st Amendment does not cover violence. And I am not a "Constitutionalist". I am a pissed off guy with a 150 IQ, several children, a lot of common sense, and an insatiable desire to learn. Thanks for your opinion.


In order to prosecute for there to be a "conspiracy", there must be an underlying crime, as in "conspiracy to commit X. There is no blanket crime of just "conspiracy". For an alleged IQ of 150 you are pretty disappointing....
Originally Posted by jaguartx
Originally Posted by PeeDeeRiver
Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Originally Posted by HuntnShoot
Originally Posted by mtnsnake
Why are they not all rounded up and waiting for their court appear?

And you begin to see now, perhaps, how utterly pointless declaring them terrorists actually is, and how all Trump was doing was pandering to the simple-minded.


If Trump could declare them a terrorist organization there would be significant benefits to law enforcement operations against the group. The problem is, the only official federal designation is an FTO. Here's a clue, the F standard for Foreign.

All you so called Constitutionalist keep forgetting about things like the First Amendment, and the freedom to associate.

Now apply your proposal in reverse. What happens if President Stacey Abrams declares the NRA, GOA etc. "Terrorist Organizations", and begins rounding up dues paying members on the basis on membership and no underlying crime.


That's the scary thing, and its even more scary that a lot of "conservatives" can't comprehend it.


I'm thinking you and AS dont know as much about the constitution as u think you do.

Over a hundred of the BLM and Antifa directed suckers have been arrested all ready and being charged with the crimes they have lately committed.

You also dont know what powers of confiscation of property Trump has when we are in a declared state of war and when the POTUS has declared we are in a state of National Emergency. The DOJ can confiscate all property owned by groups who dealt with foreign sources to overthrow the constitution or an election or effect an illegal coup. This includes CNN and NBC. It just wouldnt look good to do it now before an election.

Also, on DJT day, 4 -10- 20, Good Friday, Wyoming became the 50th state to declare a state of emergency. It's never happened before and gives him constitutional powers never before held by a POTUS. Like, uh, telling GM to start mfg respirators whether they like it or not, for example.

In essence, he can essentially be a dictator and commandeer every TV and radio station in the US legally.

As I say, that would not look good before the election.

He can commandeer and use as a military installation any business in the US and many other things such as closing banks and the internet.

Hide and watch. You ain't seen nothing yet.


Doc,

You are describing specific individuals being arrested for specific crimes. That in no way resembles what the OP proposed, which is arresting people for alleged membership of a loosely affiliated organization with no evidence of involvement in specific crimes.

Yes, emergency declarations can give government officials additional powers, but such declarations do not suspend the Constitution and actions taken under them are still subject to judicial review.
Doesn't that little play button make Barr look like.....

Rudolph bringing presents, MB. grin


There is no "if" about it.
Originally Posted by jaguartx
Rudolph bringing presents, MB. grin

Oh, on the PC it was black and parked right above the top lip looking like a Hitler stash! Thought it was a meme at first glance. Looks like Rudolph on the Android now. Carry-on.


Still awaiting the masses to differentiate between declare and designate.
Let's see if Barr doesnt shut them down by hook or crook.
This narrative that Antifa doesnt have a control structure or central organization is BS in my opinion. They been a round a while now and any group that comes together organically forms leadership.
Their leaders are soros and obama.
Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Originally Posted by HuntnShoot
Originally Posted by mtnsnake
Why are they not all rounded up and waiting for their court appear?

And you begin to see now, perhaps, how utterly pointless declaring them terrorists actually is, and how all Trump was doing was pandering to the simple-minded.


If Trump could declare them a terrorist organization there would be significant benefits to law enforcement operations against the group. The problem is, the only official federal designation is an FTO. Here's a clue, the F standard for Foreign.

All you so called Constitutionalist keep forgetting about things like the First Amendment, and the freedom to associate.

Now apply your proposal in reverse. What happens if President Stacey Abrams declares the NRA, GOA etc. "Terrorist Organizations", and begins rounding up dues paying members on the basis on membership and no underlying crime.


What happens is body bag sales go through the roof and the available labor pool of folks wanting to be cops dries up.
Originally Posted by mtnsnake
Their leaders are soros and obama.

The leaders are higher up the food chain, you're getting close though.
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