https://www.classiccitynews.com/post/barrow-co-teen-in-icu-after-being-mauled-by-dogs

Here is pic of the androgynous punk lesbo irresponsible dog owner. And two of
the beloved beasts.

[/url]

[/url]

The laws in most states require pit owners to wear flat bill caps.

That's horrible I wish the young gal the best of luck in her long road to recovery. Some people shouldn't own dogs.

And of course, it's normal people that suffer at the hands of those freaks. The victim is a lovely young lady who was at peace with the World.

"Montgomery said that after the attack, Joslyn was flown by helicopter to Grady Memorial Hospital, where she was in critical condition and on a ventilator due to her trachea being badly damaged.

The girl who was a rising freshman at Winder-Barrow High School and a flutist in the Bulldoggs marching band, also lost her hair from one of the dogs tearing off her scalp and lost an ear that doctors were able to reattach, but Montgomery said it was not clear if the ear will be viable.

“Nor do they know if she will be able to hear out of that ear,” Montgomery said.

She said that Joslyn was aware that her hair was gone, and that her niece might never have hair again."

I don't have the words to describe what should be done........................

I've said it before - the breed is schizophrenic. It's a brain defect bred into them. They can be the greatest pets in the world but something can trigger a complete change from pet to killer in an instant. Owners always say what great pets they are but theirs just hasn't switched yet.

I have good friends and family that love and own pit bulls and regularly allow them around other animals and children of all ages and that's exactly what I think when I see them posting photos and bragging on how wonderful and loving theirs is.

This exactly......

best wishes for the young lady

I have seen and done some pretty tough things in my life of 62 years with no remorse.
This young lady laying there from that in the hospital is gut wrenching.

Osky

Been several weeks since there’s been a pit bull mauling here. If I had the ability, the breed would be extinct.

Just wondering out loud, how many years does it take to cater a breed of dog to a specific task?

Hunters and dog breeders have done this since domestication began


several generations of pit bulls being the groid dog of choice,

groid dog
groid behavior

No matter what happens to the dyke, that girl isn't going to have the life she would have had before.

The girl probably won't even get part her medical bills paid for.

Way back in the early development of the breed, likely 1 dog had schizophrenia. Someone liked the way it would drive in for the kill so they bred it to try to get the trait in the pups. The defective gene was propagated and today we have a killer breed just waiting for something to pull the trigger. It's true that quite likely not all pits have the gene but who can honestly say that theirs doesn't?

I have had dogs all my life and recently our beagle passed away so we started looking around and it seemed everywhere we looked there was an abundance of pitbulls. The rescue shelters had allot of them, the pounds had allot and there were many advertised on craiglist. I would not have one myself for reasons you folks have mentioned. It is striking so many are around though. Buyer's remorse? By the way we now have a new beagle.

I'm so sorry this happened to this young lady. I hope she recovers way beyond what they think she will.

yeah, something happened over the last 30-40 yrs, when I was young you seldom heard of attacks like this and people had them back then. I remember my friend's dad raised them, Walter and I were doing some stuff on my Camaro when we saw his dad come out of the house with a shotgun and walked over to sam his male pit and blow his head off, Walter asked him why and he said sam had growled at him earlier.

We lost a young lady locally about a month ago from an attack by a "loving" pit bull .If one walks into my yard and walks out , it means I missed.

This stupid looking bish needs the ever-loving cshit beat out of her - she's exactly the type scum marching in the streets for saint george floyd .
Tattoos listens to rap music - thinks she's a badass - bich is a lifetime of uselessness . And basically nothing will happen to her for what her POS dogs did to the little girl .

Dog breeds become fads. The current fad is pits but people don't understand the problem with the breed. The defective gene only manifests itself when something triggers the schitzo to switch and it's impossible to know which ones have the gene.

From my observations locally, pit owners look as likely to bite as their dogs.

Prayers sent for the young victim.

The rescue shelters and county animal shelters also seem to always have an abundance of pit bull mixed breeds for adoption all the time. Some even try to down play down the pit bull mix breeding by calling it another less threatening sounding name.

That's the potential answer to getting rid of the breed right there ,if the shelter didn't charge so much to adopt them a guy could get one every saturday take them out of town and off them on the spot. Gross irresponsibility that they try to adopt them out in the first place.

Pretty interesting read.

https://www.americanscientist.org/article/how-to-tame-a-fox-and-build-a-dog

Our shelter is the same way

Most of the dogs are “pit bull/mix” or straight up pits

Why do we the public want to redistribute these animals right back out to unknowing or in-denial nitwits.

A person I knew of (co-worker’ mom) was a bleeding heart sucker for these things. She ran a somewhat of a “halfway house” of all places in a crowded subdivision. Had 1/2 dozen of them at any given time. Problem dogs on a rotation, she “try” them out in a new homing environment.

Bad recipe, I figured one day he’d tell his me mother got chewed up.

Older German lady, strange outfit

There is no reason whatsoever that those-or any dog-should be allowed off lead in a populated area. People get hurt, dogs get hurt...etc.


Said it here many times before...I never worked with a pit bull that wasn't a just plain sweet dog. That said, I never got into any enclosed area with one ( yard, house etc..) that I wasn't prepared to kill.

and lots of gold jewelry

Wigger.


Should have been euthanized along with the dogs.

Prayers for the young lady.

pit bull owner snever have a pot to piss in let alone insurance.

Dog and owner were probably graduates of the Pitbull and Parolees program.

People used to have enough sense to kill a dog when it showed the first sign....which can help stop more serious problems before they happen with that dog or it's offspring or it's offspring's offspring.

Agree they've let the bad seeds like Rock Chuck mentioned live and breed , plus morons doing what they can to make the dogs mean .

I have posted this before, Pit Bull Rescue is very popular these days by the Millenial crowd.

There is something psychologically wrong with Pit Bulls AND PIT BULL OWNERS/DEFENDERS.. It's that simple...

Pit bulls aren't even close to a "fad".

They are only popular with low income, low information, trash, that have no inkling about caring for or training a dog.

Pitbulls are plentiful and cheap, or free, and people that have a clue don't want them. They won't have them around their family or friends, or neighbors.

That's why the dog pounds are chock full of them.

I will add that there a few exceptions. A few good pitbull owners, and few good pitbulls.

Where is Mike Vick when you need him? He would have grabbed that dog by the hind legs, and drowned him in a 5 gallon bucket of water, like he did with his pit bulls that he was unhappy with.

Pit bulls and rottweilers should be outlawed. Just simply too many cases of the breeds being unpredictable. No reason to risk incidents like this at all.

Several years ago, in a town about 25 miles from my home, a 3 year old got into the pen with the family's pitbull and they found the little boy dead. These people had no business with a child or the dog.

4 little words covers it. Kill Every Pit Bull.

"According to a Barrow County Sheriff’s report, a deputy who responded to a witness' report of the attack arrived on the scene to find the girl lying face down against a curb, with one dog grabbing her neck and the other biting at the girl’s head."

This was in a suburban neighborhood. Obviously, the kids were not back in school. At least one person witnessed the attack and called 911. Probably there were more witnesses.
The girl is laying face down on the street, her face against the curb, and two dogs attacking her head. And nobody came forth to help that little girl? Not a single 16 year old high school boy ran out with a baseball bat, or a 2x4? Not a single housewife came out, with a frying pan or a butcher knife.
Nobody came to help. They waited on law enforcement.

Pitbulls yes .

A whole lot of prayers sent to Joslyn hoping a quick recovery, her hair grows be back and she can hear. I'm a dog lover having had bird dogs all my life, I can't understand having vicious dogs.

That's the problem. Most of them AREN'T mean, at least not until the schitzo kicks in and they instantly change personalities. If they were mean, most people wouldn't have them in their homes.

This is why pits should be killed.

Talk about a picture paints a thousand words.....YUCK !

Just another example of the continuing pussification of Americans.

Keep a rifle with you at all times. Kill them all. God will sort them out. Policy #1 Fort Apache Cattle Company.

I don't trust them either, for those same reasons. Some are prone to flipping the switch much like a JRT is prone to chasing rats and a lab is prone to fetching sticks, simply to a lesser degree. The tendency is in there in some pits, not all, but I've always considered it a gamble.

Damn....

No reason for them - absolutely none.

Exactly right - todays pusscakes make me sick - I HATE THEM !!

YouTube video 2-3 pitbulls killing a little black girl - not one grown man/woman/teen with the balls to try and help -- SICKENING what a bunch of cowards this country is loaded with . Helpless worthless people are todays norm .

I speak from experience.

One animal that I was mauled by was a big Chow.
This WAS a friends trusted dog....for around a year.
It knew me and I thought that I knew it.
One day, sitting in the living room watching TV, it calmly walked from the other room up to me. As soon as he got to me, he turned into the Tazmanian Devil.
My friend beat it and apologized. It was the first time he said it ever happened. He mangled my dominant hand.

The next week he did the same thing to his girlfriend's best friend who visited. It mauled har face.
He finally got rid of it. It was given to a farmer where it could run loose. ......and get plenty of exercise.
Hopefully it never came in contact with any people besides the owners

These breeds, if kept, must be treated with the same rules as a wild animal. If they harm someone like the terrier did to that girl, it should be destroyed immediately.

"She said that Joslyn was aware that her hair was gone, and that her niece might never have hair again."

They should remove the dog owner's scalp and attempt to transplant it to Joslyn's head. If the transplant isn't successful then euthanize the dog owner.

PS:. I always heard as a kid that the only thing that makes a dog do something like this is that they were abused by their owners.
The ONLY time my friend is known to have beaten that 🐕 that mauled me was to beat him off of me.

I don't believe that its just ownership. There's certain breeds that are very unpredictable. Even little lap dogs can be that way. My Mom nearly lost her eye and nose from her trusted little lap dog that was extremely spoiled and affectionate. Raised right. Not a fighting breed like bull terriers or chows. Thank God she didn't get blinded or a permanent injury.


I could tell of other incidents, but too busy now.

Permanently maimed.

Life ruined at 15.

If that happened to my daughter, I would hunt down and kill THE OWNER.

Temporary insanity, maybe.

If enough people did that, maybe the pit bull owners would get the message. I notice that none of the pit bull apologists have dared to post on this thread. Maybe they've finally got shame.

And if I saw a dog attacking some strange kid outside my house, you can bet I would immediately go kill the dog and rescue the kid.

Sick of seeing theses threads. I have no use for the breed and wouldn’t trust one for a second.

We usually have a pit bull or two running around the yard, our yard. No dog should be allowed to run wild no matter what breed it is. I've killed Labs, German Shepard, hounds, Chihuahua, bull dogs and a assortment of cross breeds on our property through out the years. Between harassing our cows and killing Oscar, our wiener dog, my wife's barn cats, I shoot to kill colar or no colar. Keep your dog's where they belong and no one will get bit, and your dog won't end up in the gut pile. I still believe people are to blame not the dog.

people are to blame not the gun

If I saw a dog attacking someone, I'd kill the dog pretty much anywhere I was. I've got no shame, it's the people stupid, not the dog. My wife has been bit by a Cocker Spaniel, Black Lab, Doberman and a Catahoula, and she's an animal lover. All dogs can and will bite. Outlawing pit bulls is like outlawing AR rifles, it won't stop the maulings or killings.

Same thing with black people. They’re not to blame for being violent, must be the way they were treated. After all, I’ve heard of white and other races committing crime too.

AR rifles don't jump out of my safe, bash down my door, and go out and chew some teenager to death by themselves.

The AR rifle owner can control the AR. The pit bull owner can't. That's the difference. That's why pit bull owners are stupid and, frankly, evil, whether they know that or not.

Same here. Our beloved old beagle died back in May. In June we started looking around for another dog. 80% of the dogs in local shelters and on craigslist are pit bulls.

Well said.

The other BIG problem is people like your friend. That dog should have been put down IMMEDIATELY! The fact that he let that happen again to someone else; well, I hope he got his ass sued right off and everything of value taken from him! There is a time and place for blood-sucking lawyers. Something is desperately wrong with people who value their damed dogs more than other people.

Prayers for the young lady.

"That's why the dog pounds are chock full of them."

My dog got out almost a year ago. He's Boston Terrier fence jumper mix and one hell of a escape artist. On 8/15/19 he got out. Usually he's back home within a couple of hours with a silly grin on his face. He was fixed so it wasn't to chase females. I've never seen him since that day. I figure one of several things happened. Someone picked him up and took him home. A crime as the dog has a chip Lots of coyotes roam in my "hood" so there's a chance they got him. Another though it was 105 that day and maybe the heat got him. There's also the chance dog fighters may have picked him up to use grooming their pit bulls for fighting. Quite a few dogs disappear due to those SOB's.

Anyway, for over a month I'd do about every other day hitting Pima County Animal Control looking to see if he'd been picked up. No such luck. The surprise was how many pit bulls they have in custody waiting for adoption. The way they have it set up you have to go past them to get to where they keep the smaller dogs and I don't think that was by accident.

I am always hesitant to step outside at night because there are no street lights and unless it's moonlit night, it's hard to see. We have a lot of people who own pit bulls in my "hood" and one or another is always getting out. I haven't seen one lately but as we're having a dry an extremely hot monsoon season I'm thinking their owners may be keeping them inside. I hope they stay there.
Paul B.

He might have just got shot by some trigger happy ass hole too. Lots of jack asses around that will shoot any stray/lost dog they see unfortunately.

Happy Camper,
too bad your friend didn’t have the stones to kill that dog asap after it attacked you.
Then it attacks again, girlfriend’s friend

Then it gets to go off to run buck wild on some farm?



You gotta be trolling us. Cmon

Amen.

Comparing a animal with a mind of its one to inanimate object is liberal thinking at its best.

Right

See a lot of people walking dogs downtown (trail system, dog parks, gentrification).

Queers, wiggers, spooks and mudsharks..................majority.
Hippies and Trump haters the rest.

Just waiting for some kid on a skateboard or bike to get nailed.

Had one killed a few yrs ago, family pet........got her in the neck.

Got a wrecked Jeep off some hilljack.
Exchanging title and cash in his house....his chow growled at me in other room and walked away.

Said it never walks away like that...............and asked if I was armed.
Said yup, don't know who you are really, came to pay for the Jeep............I'm packin, guy w the trailer outside is packin.

He said "so you're not afraid of the dog?"

Told him "nope"....."if it came at me I'd drop it right here in your living room".

Right on dude!!!

LIKE ...

As far as I’m concerned shelters should “eliminate” all pits/crosses from their inventory. Imagine that would shorten the injury quotient re to these adopted killers. They’re always begging for more funding...I’d think their feed bill would drop drastically wo having to care and feed these things.
I’ve an Airedale male 2 yr old. Pit comes ‘round him or wife gonna be a real short visit, seriously. Big time dog lover all 67 yrs of my life. Won’t tolerate it.

150%

Not entirely true. I live in a middle class/upper middle class neighborhood. I see idiots walking pit bulls regularly. I don't understand it. They are walking timebombs. They can be the nicest dogs you've ever met, then one day the switch is thrown and people mauled/killed. Or, other animals attacked or furniture destroyed. Psycho dogs.

Only reason I would own them would be if I avidly chased hogs.

Our city pound used to euthanize any unclaimed pitbull/pitbull cross. Should have never stopped.

If I were a gambling man, I'd bet that the owner "rescued" them out of the goodness of her heart.

I'd support a law that says if you have one you are required to keep $1,000,000 liability policy in effect.

I'll say it again All Pitts do better than any other breed is kill and fight to the death there's no need for them, none, I hope that girl can somehow manage to live a decent happy life after this has happened

Couldn't agree more.

I bet Joslyn’s parents would give a $1M liability check back to have had those dogs destroyed before they attacked her.

While an expensive policy would keep some of the retards from owning C4 with a collar, your solution is no solution.

Stories ike this is why I will kill any pitbull I see on our property.

I am prejudiced against the breed and a few others, not least of which are Chows...like the one that "sucker punched"/Tasmanian Deviled on me. How can you defend or predict that? I was familiar with my buddy s dog and it acted either friendly or aloof all the time that I saw it. IF I was packing a side arm, there's NO WAY to draw and fire it with a mangled hand. After the attack, I could barely move my fingers. My buddy was apologetic and sorry, whatever.
I couldn't understand WHY he didn't kill it right away. He beat it good, but I expected it to be buried in his yard next time I saw him.
After his girlfriends friend was attacked, he, my buddy got a visit from the Colonel. He got a good lecture about responsibility, accountability, law suits, etc.

I still couldn't believe what the bud did later!
Even then it was obviously wrong for him to find it a home on a farm. He should have thanked us profusely for not suing him and invited us to the execution of that red haired cur. I would have done the honors with my good hand.

There are laws against leaving your AR laying around unsecured where some fool or a child can get to it and do some damage. You can go to jail for that, and it ought to be the same with a breed of dog that's know for mauling people and pets.

i hate the breed. Anytime I see one, i want to put a bullet in its brain. Years ago, I had two small boys at home when we had a druggie move into a house with a backyard that cornered ours. They had a pit bull in their back yard that they kept on a chain attached to their clothes line. He got loose once. I walked over and told the druggie that if it got loose again and came into our yard or near our house, i would shoot it. It didn't, so I didn't have to (or get to, depending on your point of view). But that is the one dog I will never trust, ever. They should all be put down.

Just when I thought it wasn't possible to hate a dog breed anymore. Most of the aholes that own them do it as a fashion accessory. Just part of that antisocial image that some still think is cool.

I saw a guy probably mid forties being pulled down the sidewalk in Idaho Falls one day and he was dressed all pop culture and strutting like he was sure of how awesome he was. Probably didn't own a car. I just thought I wonder what happened to him at about age 14 that was so traumatic he never developed emotionally or psychologically beyond that age. It looked like that F everyone else Im a bad A had really taken him far in life.

If your a fellon and can't own a gun or vote you shouldn't be allowed a pit. Not just because its dangerous but because its time to grow up and quit the antisocial trying to intimidate everyone wanna be bad A BS.

Bb

It seems that more and more it is female owners of "rescue" dogs.

The owners should be liable and charged as if they committed the attack themselves.

Absolutely.
Life will never be the same for that young girl.
And I completely agree with the poster who said that the owner should be charged as if they committed the act.

Agree ..

Now we're getting somewhere that will fix a lot of these problems. Anyone with anything has at least a $million dollars worth of liability insurance. My AR isn't going to jump up out of the safe and shoot someone, but how about if someone steals one of my guns and kills someone should I be arrested for murder?

The impulse tattoo of the dog world. Absolutely pointless.

In 2005 the provincial Liberal gov’t here banned pit bulls. The law has been widely ignored, with a sudden influx of “Boxer mix” or “American Bulldogs”. But it was still available to prosecute the idiots who thought they were cool but took no responsibility for them.

That law is about to be repealed - by our Conservative gov’t.

The only good pitbull is a dead pitbull

I was attached by a pit bull when I was 14
55 years later, I still carry weapons incase I am attacked.

A gun cannot fire without help. A dog can and it's happened many times. In this breed, it's inherited.

4th of July picnic my cousin had a pit puppy there. 5-6 weeks old. just the cutest thing. it got in a fight with a terrier 3 times its size. just would not quit. had 4 grown men tugging 4 different directions to get them separated. i so wanted to take that cute little puppy out back and put one in its head. just total commitment to killing the other dog at 6 weeks old. not one pit bull whelped i would trust.

I've never had any pit bulls that would attack people for no reason. The few that became pets would catch whatever I told them to and brake when I told them to. I've had some that I had to kill because they couldn't get along with other dogs and some that would chase and catch cows that I had to kill. I used pit bulls as tool for hog hunting, my hounds would bay the hogs and the bull dogs would catch them. FYI, ether starting fluid will make a dog let go of anything it has caught. I'm all for getting rid of pit bulls, how long will it be before we need to get rid of all the Rottweiler, German Shepherds, Doberman Pinschers, Bull mastiff, Dogo Argentina, Chow and all the other dogs that bite. The groid and trouble makers will just go to another breed of dog. I feel I can train any dog to catch if I choose to.

The only dog I've ever been attacked and bitten by in my life was an Airedale. There are several dog breeds known for occasionally attacking and killing people, very often their masters. Among them are of course the pit bull but also German Shepherds, Rottweilers. Dobermans and Huskies. If we were to eliminate all dogs known for occasionally attacking and/or killing people, there wouldn't be much left. I even know a guy I used to work with that was attacked and seriously bitten by a lab. One thing I know for sure is that there is no animal on planet earth more dangerous, more unpredictable or more likely to kill somebody than another human.

How many people were killed by labs and airedales the past ten years in the US?

Curious

Way more bull dogs than anything else around here, guess they breed like groids. The main problem with a bull dog is they have no quit, you can't break them you have to kill them. And people don't have the stomach for that anymore. I can remember when dog breeders did what needed to be done, and would take a hammer to the one's that weren't right to the breed.

They'd be low on the list of dogs that have attacked or bitten somebody for sure but it does happen. In fact my ex wife has a scar on the back of her leg where she was bitten by a beagle. Don't get me wrong, I don't trust pit bulls myself but last I knew German Shepherds and Rottweilers weren't too far behind in numbers of people bitten/attacked.

Having been bitten by a pitbull, Ill take ten bites from a lab and 20 bites from a beagle any day Owners should be held liable for their fuggin schitty pits

That's not always the case. My dad was bitten by his next door neighbors pit bull. It was a quick bite and immediate release. It may have bitten again if it weren't for the fact that the neighbor guy was right there in the driveway talking to my dad when it happened and immediately grabbed the dog by the collar but it didn't hang on.

I guarantee you wouldn't want to be bitten by my German Shepherd either. Nor by the Rottweiler I had before.

If it's schizophrenia, every terrier in the world has it.

I have seen many terriers, from Yorkies, to Ratters, to Jack Russels come up off of one's lap and become a relentless killing machine devoid of pain receptors before they can hit the floor.

Terriers have been bred to instantly turn on killer mode at the sight of vermin for thousands of years. When they snap, there is no stopping them until the prey is dead.

Our cats only survived the JRT because they learned to roll over on their back at sight of him, instead of running, which triggered his pursuit drive.

The difference between lap terriers and pitbulls? You can drop kick the little terriers over the yard fence or crush their skull with your foot if need be. Not many people can do either with a full grown pitbull.

The best pit is just a time bomb with an indeterminate fuse. Who knows what might trigger it into a killing frenzy.

Exactly Roger. That is what happened. The owners quit taking responsibility for their dog and killing them for transgressing.

National Geographic did an article on said Soviet fox farm a few years ago. It reads much differently, and is much more demeaning of the Communist Government of USSR through the 60s and 70s.

Fugged up government policies. Cities destroy perfectly good firearms which could be sold to fund many programs. But they spend huge sums to raise puppies of dangerous breeds and redistribute them onto city streets.

Yes, that is a shame and shows the problem we face. Everyone wants the government to take care of them.

Pits need to be exterminated.

Period.

Update:

https://www.classiccitynews.com/pos...k-victim-reportedly-breathing-on-her-own

She has had more surgery. Is doing somewhat better. Horrific ordeal.

The photo of that girl is pathetic.

Then neighbors ought to get together and kill the owner of those dogs.

Another one.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...ell-mauled-pet-pit-bull-named-Chaos.html

As the warning at the top of the page indicates, very graphic content.

Think twice about proceeding to see the pictures, you can't unsee them.

There is a good close up of his face right after surgery -- I've seen enough stitching to see that he had a very good plastic surgeon who really knows his/her onions.

From the article: "Kalamazoo County Animal Control is investigating the case. The dog's current whereabouts is unclear."

Mommy is still defending the loving dog and speaking of him in the present tense -- i.e. the dog is NOT pushing up daisies!

You can't make this sh*t up. Sigh.

Contrast this thread on pit bulls with the other current threads about getting hunting breed puppies, beagle, GSP or labrador puppies.

The difference is (sadly) predictable.

John

Reading this thread got me thinking. Say you’re driving down the road and come across a pitbull attacking some kid and you figure using your pistol wouldn’t be prudent as the dog’s on top of the kid, there’s lots of people around, or it just wouldn’t be safe, what do you kill it with? I’d probably take my knife to it under the circumstances but that wouldn’t be my first choice if given time to think about it. Maybe a framing hammer or a hatchet would be handy to keep in the truck. Any ideas?

Sad.....truly sad.
You brought up a good point.
Counseling was mentioned in the article.
I think it takes much longer for internal scars to heal than the skin.
Just a thought.


I once knew a little girl that this happened to .
Same breed of dog attacked. . Playing with the owner's little girl.
Ripped up her face.
I Met her and the Mom after the incident. I noticed that the mom's sister and parents constantly brought it up in front of this happy little girl. I saw her reaction from joy to sadness as they would describe the morbid details of the attack in front of her. Then they'd talk about the girl's "scarred and deformed face."
At that point, id immediately take her by the hand and lead her to just out of ear shot to get her mind occupied on something positive.
Afterwards, I would have a talk with the mom and family members, without children present.
This continued until the mom was offended by my comments that " Every time the adults would describe how "horrible" she looked and details of the attack, she would be forced to relive it over and over, never to forget. I told them If she brought it up, then listen and comfort. But every time you tell her what she could have been if she wasn't so ugly, you are investing in a lifetime of pain /problems in her life.

We used to talk about this subject many times.
I studied all that I could find by the experts.
I didn't really know what I was talking about until I was attacked by a Chow, taken crushing bites by Rottweilers, an Alligator and various exotics too.

The thing that was clear should have a thread of its own.
1. These beasts can and do crush flesh, muscle tissue, tendon and bone.
2. They have powerful necks and utilize their entire body 200% and shake large adult males over twice their body weight.....just like a rag doll
3. A man's man WILL risk his own life to intervene and possibly save the child's life. From your good question, you surely would.
4..Just like Combat with humans, we need training, preplanning, continued education and practice to gain an advantage over these killing machines.
The weapon is important, but the training is far more important. I'm qualified to address both.
There's no easy answer, however I may teach this on this campfire forum if you get your friends together and there's enough interest.
PM me if you'd like that to happen.

Best regards,

Happy camper

That's a good question, billhilly. In my truck I always have a real sharp Buck knife with a 4 inch blade. And I keep a crowbar in the bed. Old beat up rusty crowbar, nobody bothers to steal it.
If I came across a dog, or several dogs attacking someone, I would put the knife in my pocket and I would attack the dogs with the crowbar. I know these attack dogs are bad asses but I don't think they could take but one whack across the spine, or the head, I think the spine would get fractured real quick.
If I had to fight the dog with just the knife, I would start shoving it in to his chest or abdomen, two or three strokes like that would take the fight out of him.
If you get into a brawl with several dogs, take it for granted you are going to the hospital. If the dog manages to cut your femoral artery, or the popliteal artery [behind the knee] you are going to the morgue.

In a case like that teenage girl in Georgia I would have to attack those dogs and we would just have to see what happens. It was a life and death matter for that girl and in about one more minute of that attack, she would have been dead.

I was thinking the same thing about the spine. A hand ax or crowbar ought to get through a spine pretty quick then you’re just left fighting a two legged dog. Need to fish through the garage and throw an ax in the truck.

Kick or force the dog clear of the child and shoot it with your handgun, where ever the incident might be taking place. Option 2 is your knife, only if the dog won't let go of the kid for you to get a clear shot. Option 3 is whatever blunt instrument might also be handy. I got out of the vehicle with a handgun on a busy city street to shoot a run-over dog that was in agonizing pain. I'd do it again tomorrow, and the police could write me a ticket if they had to.

OK, HappyCamper, you have experience in this field. By the way, what is your experience?

Let's take the case in Georgia, out on the street in the suburbs, as the little boy posted above, was inside the house.
If I drove up and saw two pit bulls killing this girl, how should I attack, at my disposal I have a sharp Buck knife, and a crowbar.

What you do Simon is let the MAN inside you loose and you go berserk with lethal intent. That's what a MAN would do. If you have to ask if one lives inside you well...

There is no doubt, bluefish, that I would attack the dogs. If HappyCamper has some advice based on experience I would be glad to hear it.
As I said, otherwise, I am going to hit that dog right across the back with a crowbar as hard as I can, I bet one stroke would fracture the spine.

a blade between the ribs would work quick, I once cut a pit down to the neck bone that attacked my chow with a machete, he ran off a few days later i seen him all happy recovering at his home.my pit attacked me, he got the short end of the stick, I had a crushed finger and a lot of stitches in my hand but he died.

always knew what i'd do if a dog attacked me and i was bare handed.

I just got back and saw the posts.

The reason I'm thinking another thread is it will take a little time to write and only on break wolfing down my dinner right now. Can't do that good question justice.
More will see and benefit from a new thread too. Maybe save a life.

Short answer IMHO, is to put yourself in the shoes of the kid/guy under a couple of pitt bulls, etc.

I would want my rescuer to use what he had as soon as possible and effectively remove all of these knives ripping into me as soon as possible.
As they say, what's the best gun to have on you? The one that you have. So, have weapon that offers reach. With dogs, they are quicker, and tougher than us under stress....pound for pound of the type we are talking about. When you say crow bar, that may fare better than a short blade. I like the idea of going for vitals, but one bite to your hand could make it useless. The biting pressure can break the small joints and hand bones making that side worthless.

Would I want my rescuer using an axe?
NOT unless he uses it regularly and can place accurate swings on moving dynamic targets without an overswing into me or his own leg. Under that stress, fine motor coordination is mostly gone and exaggerated motion occurs. However it DOES offer reach AND deadly power that can best sever the spine.

Briefly, kicking might get the dogs off, but not reliably. I don't count on it.
IF a firearm is to be used, you MUST get into a close to the ground angle up away from the victim.
Aim HIGH. Most are likely to be in an aukward position firing for the first time prone or next to and canting sharply upwards. Likely to pull shot low as well under more stress than ever experienced.

Lastly,

What do I have available for rescue equipment against the jive barking pit bulls with studded collars?
A. Sword that doubles as my multi-pupose farm tool.
Its used for quick pruning where the better tools aren't handy. Stays in the car most if the time. I've trained lots of guys in sword use. I don't recommend it though unless you use it a lot as it is easy to over swing. Shape is unusual. Mine gives little less than a yard reach. This one in the pic at that site is a more manageable size. Mine was originally designed for decapitating young bulls with one swing. I use it for reaching limbs and thorny bushes.
https://www.thekhukurihouse.com/18inch-panawal-no-mercy

2. Two of the longest screwdrivers that I can find. Thin square stock with 18"+- on the textured handle.
The other is a little longer and round stock.

3. Machetes:. I don't remember the length. One a filipino bolo, the other a long standard blade.
They get a lot of use. This is what I would recommend.

Use it lots and get a long stick of the same weight and balance for practice. Sticks bruise in practice. Blades are unforgiving. Training recommended. It has roughly the same reach as an axe. Benefit is the fudge factor. You don't have to make contact with a quick dynamic target with a hands breadth of blade. It's quicker, can be used:
-hacking
-slashing
-stabbing

Two long light ones are better than one. Why?
IF one hand is grabbed or destroyed, you've got the other.
Lastly, if you receive proper training, you will become a walking brush hog. You could literally defend a child from a crowd of gang bangers and their damn pit bulls.

Best regards,

Happy Camper

stxhunter,

]Thanks for sharing your experience. I'm always trying to learn from the firsthand knowledge of owners, attack victims, trainers, so as to help others.


You mentioned,
"a blade between the ribs would work quick, I once cut a pit down to the neck bone that attacked my chow with a machete, he ran off a few days later i seen him all happy recovering at his home."


Sounds like you saved your dogs life since the strike accomplished the goal. Machetes are easy to reshape.
A piercing tip can be ground so you can thrust and penetrate ribs easier.

You said,
"always knew what i'd do if a dog attacked me and i was bare handed."

You have the rare benefit of working with your Chow and coming out better than me. My hand had become pretty much useless when my friend' s chow focused on it. There was internal damage to muscle tissue, tendon, cartilage.


"my pit attacked me, he got the short end of the stick, I had a crushed finger and a lot of stitches in my hand but he died."

It sounds like your pitt bull got your finger bad.

That's what I've seen intervening in dog fights and training. They are quick and I like reach, distance and a sharp edge that can double if necessary to use the flat or spine if your concerned about hitting your own dog. Glad you survived and no doubt better for the experience.

UPDATE

It is worse than they thought.

WARNING

If you read this it may make you sick to your stomach:

WARNING

*****************************************************************************

She may never be able to speak again. She may have to have the "trach" for the rest of her life. This is a little plastic plug that you sometimes see on throat cancer patients. It is about the size of a silver dollar, it is placed at the bottom of the neck, and has a little hole in it, and the patient breathes through it, can't breathe through the nose or mouth.

https://www.classiccitynews.com/pos...-mauled-by-pit-bulls-worse-than-expected

What the update on the dog owner?

She faced a firing squad yet?

I think of myself as a tough customer, but I have to admit that I'd run away as fast as I can from a Pit Bull wielding a Machete...

I would rather face a charging brown bear...

how much does a brown bear charge?

At least an arm and a leg.😊😉