This report is insane.
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-...as-superspreading-event-that-cost-publicThe Sturgis Motorcycle Rally in South Dakota last month was a coronavirus “superspreading event” that led to an estimated $12.2 billion in public health costs, according to a new study by the IZA Institute of Labor Economics.
The analysis tracked anonymized cellphone data from the 10-day event that showed “smartphone pings from non-residents” and “foot traffic at restaurants and bars, retail establishments, entertainment venues, hotels and campgrounds each rose substantially.” Stay-at-home hours for local residents fell during the same time period.
Based on the increase in case count, the researchers group, estimated that cases connected to the gathering resulted in $12 billion in public health costs, not including the costs associated with any deaths that might be tied to cases from the event. That dollar amount is based on another estimation that an average of $46,000 is spent on each patient who tests positive for COVID-19.
Researchers concluded that more than 266,000 cases were tied to the event attended by more than 460,000 individuals.
I'm guessing the IZA institute of labor economics a run by a bunch of Obama appointees.
Was thinking the same thing.
A totally BS 'report' - made up numbers, nothing behind 'em... I have to give one local TV station credit in saying none of it's verified, and the SD Governor's reply that the entire item is "fiction"..
When I first heard that report from The Hill last night I knew full well it was total bullchit; I didn't believe one word of it.. The MSM and various leftist gov't's simple detest the very idea of 'freedom' and will skew anything they can find in their attempts to stifle it..
I guess all the rioters did nothing to spread the Commie virus????
based on 46k for every positive. why don't they just round it up to 50k, makes the math easier and is just as accurate.
I must be the only person on the fire who really understands where the 460 ,000 figure comes from. Traffic counters of vehicles, not people. On the road vehicle survey, they don't discriminate. Say you stay at the Buffalo chip or one of the other campgrounds and ride your bike or drive your car 3-5 times a day into Sturgis for 5 days that's you counted 15-25 times and counts local traffic also included in that big number. 10 day figure for the 460, 000 count -5% local(23,000). So you got 437,000 ÷10=43,700 ÷3=14,650 per day or 43,700÷5=8740 or day. Simply saying8740×10 =87400 actual vehicle visits in10 days .yes might be 2 people on a bike or multiple in the car. Using the 460,000 figure as the so called "study" did is bulls*it as one can see. Mb
I guess all the rioters did nothing to spread the Commie virus????
Exactly; this might have a modicum of believability if they’d have been running such calculations on the rioters but absent such balance its rightly called BS.
As far as I know it really is fake news. Yesterday’s press conference was 124 known cases associated with the rally.
How many times can the sky fall?
They need to make up their minds. Either this virus is super duper contagious, or its not. How can a large group have a 50% infection rate in 10 days, but only 6 million out 330 million Americans contract it in 9 months? How come ANTIFA/BLM aren't dropping dead by the scores? They LIVE with each other. So, if you are a Leftist protestor living and rioting with your buddies, you won't get the virus. But, if you have a MAGA and drive by a crowd on a motorcycle or stop for a brew, everybody is gonna die? Riiiight!
So, if you are a Leftist protestor living and rioting with your buddies, you won't get the virus. But, if you have a MAGA and drive by a crowd on a motorcycle or stop for a brew, everybody is gonna die?
Finally we rubes are getting the point and accepting the science sheesh it’s a relief to finally recognize the truth of this terrible disease.
If there were 124 known cases and 266K resultant cases tied to it, what does that make the R-Naught number?
Plus it happened in a month?
Yeah... Spreading faster than the fires around here.
They need to make up their minds. Either this virus is super duper contagious, or its not. How can a large group have a 50% infection rate in 10 days, but only 6 million out 330 million Americans contract it in 9 months? How come ANTIFA/BLM aren't dropping dead by the scores? They LIVE with each other. So, if you are a Leftist protestor living and rioting with your buddies, you won't get the virus. But, if you have a MAGA and drive by a crowd on a motorcycle or stop for a brew, everybody is gonna die? Riiiight!
Those damn pesky #'s
You know-the ones that NEVER added up from the start.
There is no doubt that the event caused increased spread of the virus. With that being said, that report is a crock of $hit!
The politics with this virus is sickening.
God is not the author of confusion. The enemy has all but ruined the science of statistics with the whole COVID thing. Like the Stones said, "Lies, lies, lies,".
There is no doubt that the event caused increased spread of the virus. With that being said, that report is a crock of $hit!
The politics with this virus is sickening.
No doubt huh?
I’ll follow your lead and assume you’re stupid enough to wear a Covid mask.
Pretty sure these left-leaning data points aren’t for those that believe COVID is over-hyped.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IZA_Institute_of_Labor_Economics
Founded in 1998, IZA is a non-profit limited-liability organization supported by the Deutsche Post Foundation[2] and other national and international sources.[3]
Deutsche Post Foundation Under Scrutiny
Deutsche Post, Germany's largest employer, is using a non-profit foundation in Bonn to finance a think tank that lobbies against Germany's minimum wage and labor deregulation. The entity is headed by a former Post chief executive who was convicted of tax evasion in 2009.
“Not-for-profit” isn’t the first phrase that comes to mind when thinking about Klaus Zumwinkel, the disgraced former head of the state-run German postal service, Deutsche Post.
Yet despite his conviction in 2009 for tax evasion, the former executive is still in charge of a multi-million-euro, not-for-profit foundation and an influential non-profit economic research institute, both of which have links to Deutsche Post.
Mr. Zumwinkel, who is in self-imposed exile in Italy and London, founded the Deutsche Post Foundation in 1998 during his tenure as chief executive and chairman of the postal service.
But with the exception of a mailing address, little has been made public about this organization.
This is in contrast to the very public face of the Institute for the Study of Labor (IZA). It describes itself as a “private independent economic research institute” that is supported by the foundation, and is presided over by Mr. Zumwinkel.
Deutsche Post at first refused to provide any information about an 'independent non-profit foundation.'
But this poses the ethical and legal question of whether Deutsche Post, Germany’s largest employer, is using a shell foundation to support a private non-profit think tank whose stated aims are to lobby for changes in labor policy.
Deutsche Post at first refused to provide any information about an 'independent non-profit foundation.' But after being confronted with evidence of its existence, a spokesman admitted that the foundation does receive direct payments from Deutsche Post.
Under an agreement that runs until 2022, the foundation is paid donations equal to a quarter of 1 percent of every thousand euros of Deutsche Post revenues, or a third of 1 percent of every thousand euros of personnel costs.
With the postal service achieving revenues of around €55 billion ($63.7 billion) in 2013, this means that the foundation received more than €13 million. When asked who monitors the use of these funds, the Post spokesman named the foundation’s supervisory authority and a public accountant.
The foundation has no website and no listed telephone number. But its mailing address in Bonn is the same as that of the IZA.
The institute is very influential in labor market research and policy, producing publications and appointing IZA policy fellows. It also oversaw the German government’s so-called Hartz 4 labor market reforms and its director, Klaus Zimmermann, is often featured in German media touting the dangers of a minimum wage and labor market deregulation.
Mr. Zumwinkel has been working almost since the establishment of IZA and the foundation as president of IZA, without it ever being clear what the job and authority of the president is.
To determine whether the foundation is simply a conduit through which Deutsche Post funnels cash to a labor market research institute, Handelsblatt posed several questions to the IZA’s “office manager.” These included whether the foundation has a board of trustees, whether it is true that it has no other employees, and if the foundation is the only or the main backer of IZA.
The office manager refused to answer the questions, citing an ongoing court case. This involves a lawsuit brought by Mr. Zimmermann against Werner Rügemer, a journalist, who alleged in a Handelsblatt article last month that IZA was not independent.
The case will be heard on January 30.
The foundation is not a party in the court case but seems to identify with IZA. This comes as little surprise considering that the two seem to share office space and personnel.
“The Deutsche Post Foundation and its organs, as well as its funding used to serve the public good, are not directed by the interests of the company,” said the IZA’s office manager. She added that “the executive committee and board of trustees of the Deutsche Post Foundation… regularly discuss with IZA its activities, without interfering with the independent research work.”
The IZA would not reveal the names of the foundation’s board members.
Mr. Zumwinkel has been working almost since the establishment of IZA and the foundation as president of IZA, without it ever being clear what the job and authority of the president is. It seems Mr. Zumwinkel is the only participant in the company’s board of partners.
Mr. Zumwinkel resigned as Deutsche Post's chief executive in 2008 after German prosecutors opened a tax evasion investigation into his personal dealings. In January 2009, a German court convicted Mr. Zumwinkel of tax evasion.
He was given a two-year suspended sentence and fined €1 million for investing in a foundation in Liechtenstein, a small Alpine tax haven sandwiched between Austria and Switzerland.
If the activities of the IZA overlap with the interests of Deutsche Post... questions arise about the altruism and with them the public benefit of the whole construction Ulrich Müller, Lobby Control
The IZA provides no information on the amount of money it receives from the foundation, though the development of its capital reserves is on its balance sheet for 2012. Under the entry “other additional payments” is the amount of €7.5 million, along with an entry of a similar amount listed under “withdrawals.”
It can be assumed that this is the Deutsche Post Foundation subsidy as the IZA does not name other sponsors.
Ulrich Müller of Lobby Control, an organization that promotes transparency and democracy in Europe, speculated that a possible role of the foundation may be to blur the close connection between Deutsche Post and IZA. “If the activities of the IZA overlap with the interests of Deutsche Post, and the Deutsche Post Foundation were only an empty shell, questions arise about the altruism and with them the public benefit of the whole construction,” he said.
In German law, altruism must be demonstrated to gain legal recognition for acting in the common good. If IZA were not deemed to be working for the common good, the non-profit Deutsche Post Foundation would not be allowed to support it.
Mr. Müller points out that it is not clear whether the foundation supports any other institutions besides IZA and the University of Bonn, which closely cooperates with IZA. Its internal structure is also fuzzy, he adds.
The question remains as to whether an institute can be described as non-profit and working for the public good when it is financed by Germany’s largest employer, the Deutsche Post, directly or solely through a possible funds-funneling foundation.
This is especially the case if the organization is committed to policy change and giving “recommendations for reforming unemployment insurance, modernizing free collective bargaining and opening up the labor market,” as Mr. Zimmermann states in the brochure "15 Years of IZA."
The finance ministry in North Rhine-Westphalia, the state in which Bonn is situated, refused to comment on such questions, citing tax confidentiality. But the ministry said it regularly checks to ensure companies are meeting the conditions of non-profit status.
The IZA said: “Science and research serve to answer specific questions. Such a question is also contained in the preamble of the articles of association of the IZA, namely how labor and employment can be organized for the common good. From a common good legal perspective, the public demands answers to such questions.”
Problem, all these "fake" infections lead to "fake" herd immunity. My local paper has scare data every day, but no one is being hospitalized.
So far no increase in rona cases found associated with the Flathead Co. Fair this year according to National Peoples Radio
This word would have been useful back in February.
So if you test positive they send you home to quarantine. If like most people you are never hospitalized how does that cost 45000 dollars more? Inquiring minds want to know. Edk
Those pings are expensive. Maybe we should get rid of the pings. Especially the anonymous ones.
Just one more example on a very long list of made up misinformation aiming to disparage anything Conservative. 3 months of tens of thousands of antifa close quarter rioting and screaming in other’s faces in venues throughout the land has not been identified as a super spreader event. How come?
So those crazy Germans are spying on Americans again?
Im sure they have good intentions like they did in !938
Dang.
By their math...
How much is the protests gonna cost?
Trillions??
You guys are going to eventually regret denying THE SCIENCE! [/sarcasm]
Those pings are expensive. Maybe we should get rid of the pings. Especially the anonymous ones.
Wtf is a ping?
Half a pong?
So if you test positive they send you home to quarantine. If like most people you are never hospitalized how does that cost 45000 dollars more? Inquiring minds want to know. Edk
Exactly this ^
My daughter and 3 of her sorority sisters had it last week. I know my daughter is fine now and pretty sure the rest of them are. None of them sought any treatment and just quarantined. No money spent on them at all.
The IZA - Institute of Labor Economics (German: Forschungsinstitut zur Zukunft der Arbeit), until 2016 referred to as the Institute of the Study of Labor (IZA), is a private, independent economic research institute and academic network focused on the analysis of global labor markets and headquartered in Bonn, Germany.
It's complete bullshit, most likely written and researched by woke millennial shills.
South Dakota Gov. Kristi Noem:
"Under the guise of academic research, this report is nothing short of an attack on those who exercised their personal freedom to attend Sturgis,” Noem said in the statement. "Predictably, some in the media breathlessly report on this non-peer reviewed model, built on incredibly faulty assumptions that do not reflect the actual facts and data here in South Dakota."
"At one point, academic modeling also told us that South Dakota would have 10,000 COVID patients in the hospital at our peak," she continued. "Today, we have less than 70.
I look forward to good journalists, credible academics, and honest citizens repudiating this nonsense.”
This report is insane.
I'm guessing the IZA institute of labor economics a run by a bunch of Obama appointees.
I'm guessing you're right.
IZA Institute of Labor Economics can fuuck right off. This is just another means of slandering anyone who doesn't worship Negro Marx.
Covid hit my area at work.
Took out over a dozen.
Two had issues with it.......one of some other health stuff and close to 65.
The other a pseudo athlete just milking it for time off I reckon, came in knowing they had it so they got sent home and paid for 2 weeks.
Talked to the others when they came back to work.
Said it was like a flu, but different, was crappy 3 day type of event, but recovery was pretty swift.
After 2 weeks they had to go on sick pay, if still out............amazing how that makes most folks get better.
Most of the ones that got it, were smokers. Think the smoking break area the culprit, and some went to hot spots before.
CDC indicates that hospitalization rate for covid is around 161 per 100,000.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/covid-data/covidview/index.htmlAt that rate, even IF there were 260,000 cases (highly doubtful), that equates to about 418 hospitalizations.
$12 Billion price tag? NOPE.
Just a week ago a report on the news said there was 2 reported cases after Sturgis. Now 260k in 8 days?
Even the chinks aren’t that stoopid to make such a fake claim against Trump.
😎
Those pings are expensive. Maybe we should get rid of the pings. Especially the anonymous ones.
Wtf is a ping?
Half a pong?
From the article; "he analysis tracked anonymized cellphone data from the 10-day event that showed “smartphone
pings from non-residents” and “foot traffic at restaurants and bars, retail establishments, entertainment venues, hotels and campgrounds each rose substantially.”
Note: I am married to a Pong. They are much worse.
I guess all the rioters did nothing to spread the Commie virus????
That's right. They are immune due to their high level of stupidity, compliance with the marxist/left/democrats and reliance on others supporting them from cradle to grave.
I guess all the rioters did nothing to spread the Commie virus????
Didn't ya know, tear gas kills the virus....LOL...
IZA Institute of Labor Economics is a German outfit. Just how did they get the dollar amount? I hoist the BS flag.
Sturgis was a peaceful protest, nobody got the Covid.
Heard something about that on the radio today where they were discussing what B.S. it is. Now if all those Sturgis attendees had wanted to "flatten the curve" of infections then all they had to do would be to start tossing bricks through some store windows and looting the store and torching it on the way out. Call it a "peaceful protest" for Black Lives Matter and the infection rate will be way down by a huge margin. See how easy that is?
God is not the author of confusion. The enemy has all but ruined the science of statistics with the whole COVID thing. Like the Stones said, "Lies, lies, lies,".
This ^^^^^^ is my big gripe with all of the made-up / massaged / politicized data... After the election is over, there will be no way for even an independent third party to come in and do proper analysis of what truly happened.
That dollar amount is based on another estimation that an average of $46,000 is spent on each patient who tests positive for COVID-19.
I'm calling bullchit.
did they do the same study for all the riots and looting?
There is no doubt that the event caused increased spread of the virus. With that being said, that report is a crock of $hit!
The politics with this virus is sickening.
No doubt huh?
I’ll follow your lead and assume you’re stupid enough to wear a Covid mask.
I will follow your lead and assume you are just plain stupid. No sense trying in trying to argue with an idiot. You will just drag me down to your level and win with lots of experience....in being an idiot.
Sturgis was a peaceful protest, nobody got the Covid.
Good call. 😂👍
God is not the author of confusion. The enemy has all but ruined the science of statistics with the whole COVID thing. Like the Stones said, "Lies, lies, lies,".
This ^^^^^^ is my big gripe with all of the made-up / massaged / politicized data... After the election is over, there will be no way for even an independent third party to come in and do proper analysis of what truly happened.
I bet the massage spas are eager to reopen.
We do a booth at Black Hills Harley and while over all attendance was low we had a really good show.
Nobody caught the Covid 19 and we sold a bunch of rifles and suppressors.
Win Win.
Let me guess, it's all Trump's fault.
There's literally no way to prove where anyone picks up the virus. This is nothing more than another pre-election propaganda scam.
We do a booth at Black Hills Harley and while over all attendance was low we had a really good show.
Nobody caught the Covid 19 and we sold a bunch of rifles and suppressors.
Win Win.
What booth? My son was with me when we got there and he was totally astounded at how BIG that place was.. I've visited BHH every year for the last 20 years, and the place really does one helluva job in presenting their dealership.. Some really, really good booths/tents there too with everything from soup to nuts..
There's literally no way to prove where anyone picks up the virus. This is nothing more than another pre-election propaganda scam.
Exactly.. I found a contact site for the idiot (and so-called) journalist and sent him a leeeetle note calling him a hack reporter for even writing that piece based on NO evidence whatsoever..
This virus gets spread just like rhino and influenza virus.
Washing hands, covering your mouth/nose when coughing sneezing, not touching your eyes, nose or mouth all help limit the spread. Do not come in close contact with infected persons. Stay home if sick. Same thing healthcare has been teaching forever.......
Just like influenza, age, health, exposure amounts all contribute to seriousness of the infection.
I work in a crackerbox with 8-10 other people, no other choice, critical industry. One tested positive, no one else did. Owner has been tested three times, and will get tested again next week before traveling to Alaska..
As a group, we have been tested 18 times since June. Do I think the response was overblown, absolutely.
But as I have said for the last 4 months, a little common sense goes a long way.