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Milwaukee man’s house is surrounded by mob threatening him and his family. Man arms himself while remaining inside his house. Never comes out of his house. Mob views him through the window and calls the cops. Cops come and arrest man for brandishing leaving his home and his family undefended.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...lives-matter-mob-surrounding-home-video/
City cops do the bidding of the Mayor, it's as simple as that.
Originally Posted by JoeBob
Milwaukee man’s house is surrounded by mob threatening him and his family. Man arms himself while remaining inside his house. Never comes out of his house. Mob views him through the window and calls the cops. Cops come and arrest man for brandishing leaving his home and his family undefended.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...lives-matter-mob-surrounding-home-video/

Don't blame the cops.
Blame the libtard demoschitts that run the city!
They've destroyed their cities and want to do the same to the country.
Originally Posted by MickeyD
Originally Posted by JoeBob
Milwaukee man’s house is surrounded by mob threatening him and his family. Man arms himself while remaining inside his house. Never comes out of his house. Mob views him through the window and calls the cops. Cops come and arrest man for brandishing leaving his home and his family undefended.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...lives-matter-mob-surrounding-home-video/

Don't blame the cops.
Blame the libtard demoschitts that run the city!
They've destroyed their cities and want to do the same to the country.


Bull Schit

The cops on the scene are exactly who to blame.

When the revolution starts, who's side will the cops be on.
I’m pretty sure everything in Wisconsin has Down Syndrome.

I don’t know why the cops would be any different.
I am not anti police, but I’m not far from being there anymore

BS. You should blame the cops as well. When they do the bidding of evil while under the guise of being “The good guys”, they are just as evil. Maybe they should start thinking of saying no to their unconstitutional/unlawful orders, but that would mean loosing a pension.

The police are rapidly losing support in this country. They need to wake the F up before more people turn on them.
Originally Posted by MickeyD

Don't blame the cops..


Nice try.
More here:

Black Lives Matter Bringing ‘Protest Parties’ to Trump Supporters’ Homes, Facebook Account Still Active Despite Repeatedly Posting Addresses of Conservatives

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...eatedly-posting-addresses-conservatives/
"Just following orders" like all the other extermination attempts in history. Cops are not on your side, ever.
Originally Posted by steve4102

When the revolution starts, who's side will the cops be on.


It has started. You tell me.
Well at least I do not feel alone any more now that I see guys are starting to wake up. the reason the fake right has been losing for 50 years is they were led by POS pied pipers on talk radio and politicians covering up for the real enemies while putting out false boogey men
I call the coalition of the cops and BLM as the black and blue brigade
Originally Posted by aspade
Originally Posted by steve4102

When the revolution starts, who's side will the cops be on.


It has started. You tell me.



Some cops will resign, some will obey their leadership, which reports to the mayor. Sheriffs departments are a totally different situation. Expect a bit more support from them.
Without cops, politicians are just a bunch of guys with bad ideas.
I don't believe the politicians were involved in this particular situation and arrest.

The cops got a 911 call, they arrested the home owner and left the real criminals alone. This was a field decision by the officers, not a political order.

They could have dispersed the crowd and left the home owner alone, but instead the "Officers" chose to arrest a man defending his home and his life.

Defund?
Originally Posted by JoeBob
Without cops, politicians are just a bunch of guys with bad ideas.

I have been screaming that from the rooftops for 10 years. it seems people start figuring things out when it is to late
Simple solution....Dont live in an urban scheitt hole!!! I can guarantee the cops around here would not pull a similar stunt! Our LE up through the ranks and including the county DA are VERY supportive of citizens firearm rights and have proven so in the way several self defense firearm use cases have been handled.
Milwaukee. End of story.
Originally Posted by JoeBob
Without cops, politicians are just a bunch of guys with bad ideas.


I don't agree with your sentiment on the police, but this is one of the most accurate posts I've read in all very long time.
Originally Posted by marktheshark
Simple solution....Dont live in an urban scheitt hole!!! I can guarantee the cops around here would not pull a similar stunt! Our LE up through the ranks and including the county DA are VERY supportive of citizens firearm rights and have proven so in the way several self defense firearm use cases have been handled.

bull sh it when push comes to shove the cops during a BLM riot will take their side as the black and blue brigade. it just hasnt hit your town yet. guys in small towns opinions really dont matter at all cause the cities control the states. like NY illionois Penn cali etc. you do not set policy they do
ACAB!




....especially the one that diddled spqr-tard
If a blm mob shows up on my property attacking my place, cops best bring plenty of toe tags to sort them out later.
Originally Posted by kevinJ
I am not anti police, but I’m not far from being there anymore

BS. You should blame the cops as well. When they do the bidding of evil while under the guise of being “The good guys”, they are just as evil. Maybe they should start thinking of saying no to their unconstitutional/unlawful orders, but that would mean loosing a pension.

The police are rapidly losing support in this country. They need to wake the F up before more people turn on them.
Excellent post.
Special SP is on a role today... Keep going you got this.
Originally Posted by WAM
If a blm mob shows up on my property attacking my place, cops best bring plenty of toe tags to sort them out later.


Bull Schit
How is this possible? Whoever gave the "arrest order" should be sued for everything they have! I thought cops didn't have to follow "illegal orders"?
Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by MickeyD
Originally Posted by JoeBob
Milwaukee man’s house is surrounded by mob threatening him and his family. Man arms himself while remaining inside his house. Never comes out of his house. Mob views him through the window and calls the cops. Cops come and arrest man for brandishing leaving his home and his family undefended.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...lives-matter-mob-surrounding-home-video/

Don't blame the cops.
Blame the libtard demoschitts that run the city!
They've destroyed their cities and want to do the same to the country.


Bull Schit

The cops on the scene are exactly who to blame.

When the revolution starts, who's side will the cops be on.

You simply can not make a blanket statement about the cops being bad. It's simply not true. The vast majority are good people deserving of our respect.
If you look at how a similar situation would be handled in San Francisco, Chicago, D.C., or any other bastion of socialist paradise you'd find the cops would have handled it in a similar manner.
They were raised, educated and brainwashed by the systems the libtard demoschitts have burdened their cities with.
Not very likely to see this happen in more conservative communities.
Then, too, we really don't know the exact circumstances involved with this. The guy may have over reacted, though I doubt it. The point being, it's important to refrain from jumping to conclusions. Never lose your objectivity.
The cops may well be the villains in this case but wait until ALL the facts are known before rendering judgement. Is that not what you'd expect if you were the 'accused'?
It’s the new breed of cops that will be the real problem. Count on it.
Originally Posted by MickeyD
Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by MickeyD
Originally Posted by JoeBob
Milwaukee man’s house is surrounded by mob threatening him and his family. Man arms himself while remaining inside his house. Never comes out of his house. Mob views him through the window and calls the cops. Cops come and arrest man for brandishing leaving his home and his family undefended.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...lives-matter-mob-surrounding-home-video/

Don't blame the cops.
Blame the libtard demoschitts that run the city!
They've destroyed their cities and want to do the same to the country.


Bull Schit

The cops on the scene are exactly who to blame.

When the revolution starts, who's side will the cops be on.

You simply can not make a blanket statement about the cops being bad. It's simply not true. The vast majority are good people deserving of our respect.
If you look at how a similar situation would be handled in San Francisco, Chicago, D.C., or any other bastion of socialist paradise you'd find the cops would have handled it in a similar manner.
They were raised, educated and brainwashed by the systems the libtard demoschitts have burdened their cities with.
Not very likely to see this happen in more conservative communities.
Then, too, we really don't know the exact circumstances involved with this. The guy may have over reacted, though I doubt it. The point being, it's important to refrain from jumping to conclusions. Never lose your objectivity.
The cops may well be the villains in this case but wait until ALL the facts are known before rendering judgement. Is that not what you'd expect if you were the 'accused'?


Kenosia Kyle

Patricia and Mark McCloskey

Need more?
Originally Posted by steve4102
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Kenosia Kyle

Patricia and Mark McCloskey

Need more?


Excellent question!
I'm still waiting for the cops to turn on the politicians who sign their paychecks....I imagine that wait will be forever.
Honest question for those who are anti-cop. Who do you call if you need assistance? Do you go vigilante and handle it yourself and risk the legal ramifications?

I'm in a rural area so my circumstances are different than those in urban/suburban areas. Our sheriff/deputies have always been respectful and polite, but then I don't go around acting like a piece of schidt either.
Originally Posted by UNCCGrad
Honest question for those who are anti-cop. Who do you call if you need assistance? Do you go vigilante and handle it yourself and risk the legal ramifications?

I'm in a rural area so my circumstances are different than those in urban/suburban areas. Our sheriff/deputies have always been respectful and polite, but then I don't go around acting like a piece of schidt either.


I can see no scenario in which I would call the police for "Assistance".
Originally Posted by 12344mag
City cops do the bidding of the Mayor, it's as simple as that.

Yep. There's nothing magical about a badge and uniform that transforms someone into a right thinking person. If they work for leftist forces, they will do the bidding of the leftists.
Originally Posted by UNCCGrad
Honest question for those who are anti-cop. Who do you call if you need assistance? Do you go vigilante and handle it yourself and risk the legal ramifications?

I'm in a rural area so my circumstances are different than those in urban/suburban areas. Our sheriff/deputies have always been respectful and polite, but then I don't go around acting like a piece of schidt either.
Personally I've never called the cops for anything in my life but I've always lived rural. I have known a lot of cops in my life. Have done gun work for some, worked with others and some were members of my sportsmans club. Most I know/have known are entitled ass holes that think they are and really to a great extent are, above the law.
Originally Posted by 12344mag
City cops do the bidding of the Mayor, it's as simple as that.



Kind of like the SS.
Originally Posted by watch4bear
Originally Posted by 12344mag
City cops do the bidding of the Mayor, it's as simple as that.



Kind of like the SS.


...and the FBI,
Originally Posted by kevinJ
I am not anti police, but I’m not far from being there anymore

BS. You should blame the cops as well. When they do the bidding of evil while under the guise of being “The good guys”, they are just as evil. Maybe they should start thinking of saying no to their unconstitutional/unlawful orders, but that would mean loosing a pension.

The police are rapidly losing support in this country. They need to wake the F up before more people turn on them.




Cops; like soldiers, need to question the sanity of the orders given. If insane; question the sanity of the order giver, and take appropriate action.
Thinking about how cops handle different situations yesterday. Generally I have no problem with how they handle major confrontations with armed or violent individuals. They only have a short window of time to react and make a decision. I do have issues with how they handle early morning search warrants and sometimes get the wrong addresses.
What really disturbs me is the way they handle lesser issues for revenue generation, especially traffic control officers which in arizona are called Department of Public Safety. They sit in the median watching on coming traffic driving into the sunlight looking for cracks in the windshield. Then they look to see if you are wearing a seatbelt. They won't stop you for a broken windshield unless you don't have a seatbelt fastened. Can only issue a repair order for the windshield but ends up a substantial fine including court costs for the seat belt violation. There can be road gators all over the road but they won't stop and throw them out of the traffic lanes.
We dont know all the details but the incident which is the subject of this post appears to be another example of police exerting their authority without due cause.
In Arizona DPS traffic control officers are the worst. City PD officers are a little better but there is a lot of variation between individuals. Sheriff deputies generally tend to overlook a lot of minor infractions and focus more on solving complaints from citizens and criminal investigations.
Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by UNCCGrad
Honest question for those who are anti-cop. Who do you call if you need assistance? Do you go vigilante and handle it yourself and risk the legal ramifications?

I'm in a rural area so my circumstances are different than those in urban/suburban areas. Our sheriff/deputies have always been respectful and polite, but then I don't go around acting like a piece of schidt either.


I can see no scenario in which I would call the police for "Assistance".


Ok, say you have a break in while you are not home. Your homeowners insurance is going to need a police report. What then? Same if you get into a vehicle accident.

Unfortunately not everyone has the same morals and values so there has to be some kind of means of enforcing basic law and order. Maybe if more people were CCW carriers it would decrease the need for police but the liberals in the cities wont allow that.
You get the government you vote for. Both local and national.

Trump won In A lot of states. But the voters did not have enough sense to vote republican down ballot.
Thus we still had a lot of dems in office. Then in the midterms either voters stayed home or changed horses. At any rate we would up with a Democrat house. Hasbeen
Slippery slope.............

#1, don't live in commie shltholes!

#2, who the fu-k are our wives, mothers, grannies and daughters going to call when we're away??????????????????????don't be stupid!
Originally Posted by UNCCGrad
Honest question for those who are anti-cop. Who do you call if you need assistance? Do you go vigilante and handle it yourself and risk the legal ramifications?

I'm in a rural area so my circumstances are different than those in urban/suburban areas. Our sheriff/deputies have always been respectful and polite, but then I don't go around acting like a piece of schidt either.


I wonder how the homeowner in the house would answer your question after people had been outside doing that to him and his family for hours.
I think it's interesting how Dem/Comms and their tools in the media remain totally silent when a Dem/Comm commits a crime , just like cops.

We have a few cops and ex-cops on this forum. Isn't it interesting how none of them are outspoken and outraged when another cops violates someone eases rights or commit crimes themselves?

They are pro "good cop" (as are nearly all of us) but are 100% silent when we see bad cops doing the bidding of communists traitors. Just like all Dem Comms. Seems like a match to me.

Anyone else notice this?
I think police are to a large part a product of their community. There's plenty of places where the outcome would be dramatically different.
He has a big Trump sign out. Clearly this is promotion and provocation of violence.
Originally Posted by szihn
I think it's interesting how Dem/Comms and their tools in the media remain totally silent when a Dem/Comm commits a crime , just like cops.

We have a few cops and ex-cops on this forum. Isn't it interesting how none of them are outspoken and outraged when another cops violates someone eases rights or commit crimes themselves?

They are pro "good cop" (as are nearly all of us) but are 100% silent when we see bad cops doing the bidding of communists traitors. Just like all Dem Comms. Seems like a match to me.

Anyone else notice this?



Not true, Szhin. We have spoken more than once. And I have expressed my distrust of my political leaders and displeasure at dishonest cops.

I have lost the ability long ago when confronting, politely, my superiors at work when they veered into gray areas when charging people, especially with gun crimes. I have lost half the time. The charges have lost more but I will never promote/ i have lost choice assignments and now have lost a lousy assignment that worked for me. This for defending a stranger's rights and freedom.

But go on hating ALL cops for the actions of a bad few or the mistakes of an ill led department.
Originally Posted by marktheshark
Simple solution....Dont live in an urban scheitt hole!!!


Betting the scenario is something like this:
Older guy that probably worked a blue collar job to buy a modest house in what was a good neighborhood of Milwaukee 30 years ago so he would be reasonably close to his job. Since then he retired and is living on a fixed pension. The neighborhood changed and property values have plummeted, everyone who could afford to move out of the neighborhood has fled, but he couldnt.
Originally Posted by SPQR70AD
Originally Posted by marktheshark
Simple solution....Dont live in an urban scheitt hole!!! I can guarantee the cops around here would not pull a similar stunt! Our LE up through the ranks and including the county DA are VERY supportive of citizens firearm rights and have proven so in the way several self defense firearm use cases have been handled.

bull sh it when push comes to shove the cops during a BLM riot will take their side as the black and blue brigade. it just hasnt hit your town yet. guys in small towns opinions really dont matter at all cause the cities control the states. like NY illionois Penn cali etc. you do not set policy they do



GFY, I am in NO WAY a blind cop supporter, HOWEVER, I do know the local cops, many on a personal basis as I am a deputy fire chief here. I can state without hesistation that they stand on the side of the Patriots. Also our local elected officials, up to the county level do also. And it has hit not all that far away, see the Lancaster PA riots earlier this week and how they were handled. No puzzy Portland pandering here! You are a fuggin know everything fuggin jackazz.
Originally Posted by Ranger_Green
Originally Posted by szihn
I think it's interesting how Dem/Comms and their tools in the media remain totally silent when a Dem/Comm commits a crime , just like cops.

We have a few cops and ex-cops on this forum. Isn't it interesting how none of them are outspoken and outraged when another cops violates someone eases rights or commit crimes themselves?

They are pro "good cop" (as are nearly all of us) but are 100% silent when we see bad cops doing the bidding of communists traitors. Just like all Dem Comms. Seems like a match to me.

Anyone else notice this?



Not true, Szhin. We have spoken more than once. And I have expressed my distrust of my political leaders and displeasure at dishonest cops.

I have lost the ability long ago when confronting, politely, my superiors at work when they veered into gray areas when charging people, especially with gun crimes. I have lost half the time. The charges have lost more but I will never promote/ i have lost choice assignments and now have lost a lousy assignment that worked for me. This for defending a stranger's rights and freedom.

But go on hating ALL cops for the actions of a bad few or the mistakes of an ill led department.


If you were average powerless Joe Citizen and were falsely accused or in a compromising situation not of your making how many of your co-workers would you trust? Just curious
Originally Posted by JakeBlues
I think police are to a large part a product of their community. There's plenty of places where the outcome would be dramatically different.



THIS!!!!!!
Originally Posted by marktheshark
Originally Posted by JakeBlues
I think police are to a large part a product of their community. There's plenty of places where the outcome would be dramatically different.



THIS!!!!!!

Of course.
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by marktheshark
Originally Posted by JakeBlues
I think police are to a large part a product of their community. There's plenty of places where the outcome would be dramatically different.



THIS!!!!!!

Of course.


To give a local example, one local township hired a retired Philly senior officer with all the fancy degrees as their Police Chief. He tried to bring his big city policies and methods with him. He quickly lost the support of his officers and community members and barely lasted a year before being dismissed by the Board of Supervisors.
Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by MickeyD
Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by MickeyD
Originally Posted by JoeBob
Milwaukee man’s house is surrounded by mob threatening him and his family. Man arms himself while remaining inside his house. Never comes out of his house. Mob views him through the window and calls the cops. Cops come and arrest man for brandishing leaving his home and his family undefended.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...lives-matter-mob-surrounding-home-video/

Don't blame the cops.
Blame the libtard demoschitts that run the city!
They've destroyed their cities and want to do the same to the country.


Bull Schit

The cops on the scene are exactly who to blame.

When the revolution starts, who's side will the cops be on.

You simply can not make a blanket statement about the cops being bad. It's simply not true. The vast majority are good people deserving of our respect.
If you look at how a similar situation would be handled in San Francisco, Chicago, D.C., or any other bastion of socialist paradise you'd find the cops would have handled it in a similar manner.
They were raised, educated and brainwashed by the systems the libtard demoschitts have burdened their cities with.
Not very likely to see this happen in more conservative communities.
Then, too, we really don't know the exact circumstances involved with this. The guy may have over reacted, though I doubt it. The point being, it's important to refrain from jumping to conclusions. Never lose your objectivity.
The cops may well be the villains in this case but wait until ALL the facts are known before rendering judgement. Is that not what you'd expect if you were the 'accused'?


Kenosia Kyle

Patricia and Mark McCloskey

Need more?




A couple of cases out of many thousands of police contact with people involving a few individual officers
As for the McCloskey's, did you not hear what they had to say about the officers that came to their home to take their weapons? They had no complaints against the officers...only the prosecutor. Learn about objectivity, it will serve you well.
Do you have even the slightest idea of what critical thinking is?
Originally Posted by UNCCGrad
Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by UNCCGrad
Honest question for those who are anti-cop. Who do you call if you need assistance? Do you go vigilante and handle it yourself and risk the legal ramifications?

I'm in a rural area so my circumstances are different than those in urban/suburban areas. Our sheriff/deputies have always been respectful and polite, but then I don't go around acting like a piece of schidt either.


I can see no scenario in which I would call the police for "Assistance".


Ok, say you have a break in while you are not home. Your homeowners insurance is going to need a police report. What then? Same if you get into a vehicle accident.

Unfortunately not everyone has the same morals and values so there has to be some kind of means of enforcing basic law and order. Maybe if more people were CCW carriers it would decrease the need for police but the liberals in the cities wont allow that.



the only place you are allowed to carry a gun is where there is no crime
Originally Posted by marktheshark
Originally Posted by SPQR70AD
Originally Posted by marktheshark
Simple solution....Dont live in an urban scheitt hole!!! I can guarantee the cops around here would not pull a similar stunt! Our LE up through the ranks and including the county DA are VERY supportive of citizens firearm rights and have proven so in the way several self defense firearm use cases have been handled.

bull sh it when push comes to shove the cops during a BLM riot will take their side as the black and blue brigade. it just hasnt hit your town yet. guys in small towns opinions really dont matter at all cause the cities control the states. like NY illionois Penn cali etc. you do not set policy they do



GFY, I am in NO WAY a blind cop supporter, HOWEVER, I do know the local cops, many on a personal basis as I am a deputy fire chief here. I can state without hesistation that they stand on the side of the Patriots. Also our local elected officials, up to the county level do also. And it has hit not all that far away, see the Lancaster PA riots earlier this week and how they were handled. No puzzy Portland pandering here! You are a fuggin know everything fuggin jackazz.

you are full of sh it. if HUD came into your town wanting to put Sec Ape housing for somalians and you went out to protest to stop it your patriot protecting cops will smash your head in. I have seen that and heard it from friends. of course you on the side of cops you are a tax parasite like they are. I will say it again if you live in a small town or state without many people you MAY get away and be lucky that dont come to your town but if it did you would change your tune
Originally Posted by gunner500
Slippery slope.............

#1, don't live in commie shltholes!

#2, who the fu-k are our wives, mothers, grannies and daughters going to call when we're away??????????????????????don't be stupid!

call ghostbusters
Originally Posted by MickeyD
Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by MickeyD
Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by MickeyD
[quote=JoeBob]Milwaukee man’s house is surrounded by mob threatening him and his family. Man arms himself while remaining inside his house. Never comes out of his house. Mob views him through the window and calls the cops. Cops come and arrest man for brandishing leaving his home and his family undefended.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...lives-matter-mob-surrounding-home-video/

Don't blame the cops.
Blame the libtard demoschitts that run the city!
They've destroyed their cities and want to do the same to the country.


Bull Schit

The cops on the scene are exactly who to blame.

When the revolution starts, who's side will the cops be on.

You simply can not make a blanket statement about the cops being bad. It's simply not true. The vast majority are good people deserving of our respect.
If you look at how a similar situation would be handled in San Francisco, Chicago, D.C., or any other bastion of socialist paradise you'd find the cops would have handled it in a similar manner.
They were raised, educated and brainwashed by the systems the libtard demoschitts have burdened their cities with.
Not very likely to see this happen in more conservative communities.
Then, too, we really don't know the exact circumstances involved with this. The guy may have over reacted, though I doubt it. The point being, it's important to refrain from jumping to conclusions. Never lose your objectivity.
The cops may well be the villains in this case but wait until ALL the facts are known before rendering judgement. Is that not what you'd expect if you were the 'accused'?


Kenosia Kyle

Patricia and Mark McCloskey

Need more?




A couple of cases out of many thousands of police contact with people involving a few individual officers
As for the McCloskey's, did you not hear what they had to say about the officers that came to their home to take their weapons? They had no complaints against the officers...only the prosecutor.
As for Kyle...being a minor in posession of a firearm in public, he in all likelyhood, was probably in violation of the law. Not surprising that he's in a bit of trouble. It appears the shoot was justified but there are probably other issues invloved.
Learn about objectivity, it will serve you well.
Do you have even the slightest idea of what critical thinking is?
And the BLM/Antifa numbnuts have found some unlikely allies.


Conservatives!


Hahaha!
Originally Posted by SPQR70AD
Originally Posted by UNCCGrad
Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by UNCCGrad
Honest question for those who are anti-cop. Who do you call if you need assistance? Do you go vigilante and handle it yourself and risk the legal ramifications?

I'm in a rural area so my circumstances are different than those in urban/suburban areas. Our sheriff/deputies have always been respectful and polite, but then I don't go around acting like a piece of schidt either.


I can see no scenario in which I would call the police for "Assistance".


Ok, say you have a break in while you are not home. Your homeowners insurance is going to need a police report. What then? Same if you get into a vehicle accident.

Unfortunately not everyone has the same morals and values so there has to be some kind of means of enforcing basic law and order. Maybe if more people were CCW carriers it would decrease the need for police but the liberals in the cities wont allow that.



the only place you are allowed to carry a gun is where there is no crime


Where do come up with this one size fits all bullsheit you constantly spew on here??? May be true in some states but here in PA a permit holder can carry a gun anywhere in the state with a few restrictions outlined in STATE law, such as not in courthouses etc. Have a preemption law here so localities cannot make more restrictive laws than tue state ones, and many have been successfully challenged in court.
Originally Posted by MickeyD
Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by MickeyD
Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by MickeyD
Originally Posted by JoeBob
Milwaukee man’s house is surrounded by mob threatening him and his family. Man arms himself while remaining inside his house. Never comes out of his house. Mob views him through the window and calls the cops. Cops come and arrest man for brandishing leaving his home and his family undefended.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...lives-matter-mob-surrounding-home-video/

Don't blame the cops.
Blame the libtard demoschitts that run the city!
They've destroyed their cities and want to do the same to the country.


Bull Schit

The cops on the scene are exactly who to blame.

When the revolution starts, who's side will the cops be on.

You simply can not make a blanket statement about the cops being bad. It's simply not true. The vast majority are good people deserving of our respect.
If you look at how a similar situation would be handled in San Francisco, Chicago, D.C., or any other bastion of socialist paradise you'd find the cops would have handled it in a similar manner.
They were raised, educated and brainwashed by the systems the libtard demoschitts have burdened their cities with.
Not very likely to see this happen in more conservative communities.
Then, too, we really don't know the exact circumstances involved with this. The guy may have over reacted, though I doubt it. The point being, it's important to refrain from jumping to conclusions. Never lose your objectivity.
The cops may well be the villains in this case but wait until ALL the facts are known before rendering judgement. Is that not what you'd expect if you were the 'accused'?


Kenosia Kyle

Patricia and Mark McCloskey

Need more?




A couple of cases out of many thousands of police contact with people involving a few individual officers
As for the McCloskey's, did you not hear what they had to say about the officers that came to their home to take their weapons? They had no complaints against the officers...only the prosecutor. Learn about objectivity, it will serve you well.
Do you have even the slightest idea of what critical thinking is?

THE PROSECUTER WOULD HAVE NO POWER WITHOUT THE COPS. do you understand that? would the prosecuter go to their house and take their guns? get off your knees it would serve you well.
Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by MickeyD
Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by MickeyD
Originally Posted by JoeBob
Milwaukee man’s house is surrounded by mob threatening him and his family. Man arms himself while remaining inside his house. Never comes out of his house. Mob views him through the window and calls the cops. Cops come and arrest man for brandishing leaving his home and his family undefended.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...lives-matter-mob-surrounding-home-video/

Don't blame the cops.
Blame the libtard demoschitts that run the city!
They've destroyed their cities and want to do the same to the country.


Bull Schit

The cops on the scene are exactly who to blame.

When the revolution starts, who's side will the cops be on.

You simply can not make a blanket statement about the cops being bad. It's simply not true. The vast majority are good people deserving of our respect.
If you look at how a similar situation would be handled in San Francisco, Chicago, D.C., or any other bastion of socialist paradise you'd find the cops would have handled it in a similar manner.
They were raised, educated and brainwashed by the systems the libtard demoschitts have burdened their cities with.
Not very likely to see this happen in more conservative communities.
Then, too, we really don't know the exact circumstances involved with this. The guy may have over reacted, though I doubt it. The point being, it's important to refrain from jumping to conclusions. Never lose your objectivity.
The cops may well be the villains in this case but wait until ALL the facts are known before rendering judgement. Is that not what you'd expect if you were the 'accused'?


Kenosia Kyle

Patricia and Mark McCloskey

Need more?




A couple of cases out of many thousands of police contact with people involving a few individual officers
As for the McCloskey's, did you not hear what they had to say about the officers that came to their home to take their weapons? They had no complaints against the officers...only the prosecutor. Learn about objectivity, it will serve you well.
Do you have even the slightest idea of what critical thinking is?
Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by UNCCGrad
Honest question for those who are anti-cop. Who do you call if you need assistance? Do you go vigilante and handle it yourself and risk the legal ramifications?

I'm in a rural area so my circumstances are different than those in urban/suburban areas. Our sheriff/deputies have always been respectful and polite, but then I don't go around acting like a piece of schidt either.


I can see no scenario in which I would call the police for "Assistance".

When I read things like this I'm reminded of something Einstein said.....he knew of only two things in the universe that were unlimited. The first being the universe itself and the second being the stupidity of mankind, but wasn't completely convinced of the former.
Originally Posted by SPQR70AD
Originally Posted by MickeyD
Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by MickeyD
Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by MickeyD
Originally Posted by JoeBob
Milwaukee man’s house is surrounded by mob threatening him and his family. Man arms himself while remaining inside his house. Never comes out of his house. Mob views him through the window and calls the cops. Cops come and arrest man for brandishing leaving his home and his family undefended.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...lives-matter-mob-surrounding-home-video/

Don't blame the cops.
Blame the libtard demoschitts that run the city!
They've destroyed their cities and want to do the same to the country.


Bull Schit

The cops on the scene are exactly who to blame.

When the revolution starts, who's side will the cops be on.

You simply can not make a blanket statement about the cops being bad. It's simply not true. The vast majority are good people deserving of our respect.
If you look at how a similar situation would be handled in San Francisco, Chicago, D.C., or any other bastion of socialist paradise you'd find the cops would have handled it in a similar manner.
They were raised, educated and brainwashed by the systems the libtard demoschitts have burdened their cities with.
Not very likely to see this happen in more conservative communities.
Then, too, we really don't know the exact circumstances involved with this. The guy may have over reacted, though I doubt it. The point being, it's important to refrain from jumping to conclusions. Never lose your objectivity.
The cops may well be the villains in this case but wait until ALL the facts are known before rendering judgement. Is that not what you'd expect if you were the 'accused'?


Kenosia Kyle

Patricia and Mark McCloskey

Need more?




A couple of cases out of many thousands of police contact with people involving a few individual officers
As for the McCloskey's, did you not hear what they had to say about the officers that came to their home to take their weapons? They had no complaints against the officers...only the prosecutor. Learn about objectivity, it will serve you well.
Do you have even the slightest idea of what critical thinking is?

THE PROSECUTER WOULD HAVE NO POWER WITHOUT THE COPS. do you understand that? would the prosecuter go to their house and take their guns? get off your knees it would serve you well.

GFY, A SSHOLE.
4 pages of hand wringing over a short, incomplete report from Gateway Pundit (which hasn't exactly had a history of accurate reporting) based on one twitter account of unknown veracity.

How about waiting for the Paul Harvey moment before passing judgement.
Originally Posted by SPQR70AD
Originally Posted by marktheshark
Originally Posted by SPQR70AD
Originally Posted by marktheshark
Simple solution....Dont live in an urban scheitt hole!!! I can guarantee the cops around here would not pull a similar stunt! Our LE up through the ranks and including the county DA are VERY supportive of citizens firearm rights and have proven so in the way several self defense firearm use cases have been handled.

bull sh it when push comes to shove the cops during a BLM riot will take their side as the black and blue brigade. it just hasnt hit your town yet. guys in small towns opinions really dont matter at all cause the cities control the states. like NY illionois Penn cali etc. you do not set policy they do



GFY, I am in NO WAY a blind cop supporter, HOWEVER, I do know the local cops, many on a personal basis as I am a deputy fire chief here. I can state without hesistation that they stand on the side of the Patriots. Also our local elected officials, up to the county level do also. And it has hit not all that far away, see the Lancaster PA riots earlier this week and how they were handled. No puzzy Portland pandering here! You are a fuggin know everything fuggin jackazz.

you are full of sh it. if HUD came into your town wanting to put Sec Ape housing for somalians and you went out to protest to stop it your patriot protecting cops will smash your head in. I have seen that and heard it from friends. of course you on the side of cops you are a tax parasite like they are. I will say it again if you live in a small town or state without many people you MAY get away and be lucky that dont come to your town but if it did you would change your tune



What the phouck are you talking about you phugging tool?? A tax sucking parasite???? I happen to be a VOLUNTEER fire chief that receives no compensation so you are dead wrong there as you are with most of the bullsheit you spew on here!!! I also happen to own a business that has a yearly gross revenue most likely higher then your lifetime earnings!! I can guarantee you I have contributed more to this nation than you ever have! You think you know everything about everything, but only continuously prove how much of phuggin fool you actually are! As I said Lancaster PA is not far from me at all and see how the riots and rioters were handled the other evening. No Portland here!!
Originally Posted by windridge
Originally Posted by Ranger_Green
Originally Posted by szihn
I think it's interesting how Dem/Comms and their tools in the media remain totally silent when a Dem/Comm commits a crime , just like cops.

We have a few cops and ex-cops on this forum. Isn't it interesting how none of them are outspoken and outraged when another cops violates someone eases rights or commit crimes themselves?

They are pro "good cop" (as are nearly all of us) but are 100% silent when we see bad cops doing the bidding of communists traitors. Just like all Dem Comms. Seems like a match to me.

Anyone else notice this?



Not true, Szhin. We have spoken more than once. And I have expressed my distrust of my political leaders and displeasure at dishonest cops.

I have lost the ability long ago when confronting, politely, my superiors at work when they veered into gray areas when charging people, especially with gun crimes. I have lost half the time. The charges have lost more but I will never promote/ i have lost choice assignments and now have lost a lousy assignment that worked for me. This for defending a stranger's rights and freedom.

But go on hating ALL cops for the actions of a bad few or the mistakes of an ill led department.


If you were average powerless Joe Citizen and were falsely accused or in a compromising situation not of your making how many of your co-workers would you trust? Just curious


Trust to do what? Let someone go because you like them, even though "probable cause exists that a crime has been committed?

Very, very few. The same few who have risked their livelihood by listening to my arguments. The same arguments most here would make based on a simple observable test of right and long, filtered through the law and the Justice System. Which is twisted beyond belief by the likes of Kamala Harris and every petty political person between her and you.

Most decent cops would feel bad in that they are a cog in the system which is often unfair and beyond their ability to fix. They know that they are not allowed tobe judge and jury - that is what juries and judges and attorneys and public defenders are there for. You are supposed to get your day in court.

I got into serious trouble for not arresting a man for domestic violence. His wife claimed he savagely beat her arms with both his fists while she lay there covered up and taking the blows. But I could see, since she was wearing a sleeveless top, that there wasn''t a mark on her body at all. When I finally located the husband I made a pretense to shake his had. His grip was so strong that he could have easily crushed mine. The woman clearly lied and I documented her statement and took photos of her arms, with her pointing to where the man had allegedly struck, her, and booked it all in the report. I served the man with the restraining order his wife had requested, as that is the LAW in California, but I did not arrest him on felony domestic violence. Later that night when the sergeants were reviewing the reports they aghast that I violated policy by not arresting a(n innocent) man.; Long arguments were made (These sergeants were good enough to let me explain) and these good sergeants made more than a few phone calls to keep their jobs and me out of jail.

In this Dem chithole of a city the politics are unbelievable. So do I quit? Soon. Then there will be almost no one to stand up to procedural injustice. The courts will process innocence. Right
Check out our District Attorney:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chesa_Boudin



Are all cops saints? Not hardly, but they are not gearing up to slaughter patriots either.

Someone here was mad that I did not walk into Nancy Pelosi's office and arrest her for not following the oath she swore to defend the Constitution. There are some things even I can't fix.

But we can all discuss the best and most capable solutions. And right now that is by voting the bastards out and voting decent people in.
Originally Posted by szihn
I think it's interesting how Dem/Comms and their tools in the media remain totally silent when a Dem/Comm commits a crime , just like cops.

We have a few cops and ex-cops on this forum. Isn't it interesting how none of them are outspoken and outraged when another cops violates someone eases rights or commit crimes themselves?

They are pro "good cop" (as are nearly all of us) but are 100% silent when we see bad cops doing the bidding of communists traitors. Just like all Dem Comms. Seems like a match to me.

Anyone else notice this?


Ranger Green isn't in that category. He is a good cop. He's welcome at my Campfire or my house any day, any time.
From another cops are the bad/good guys thread

I look at police this way-

They are where the rubber meets the road in our Constitutionally guaranteed rights. The engine is up there (politicians), but that engine can sit and spin all day if the rubber don't meet the road.

Cops should be the disconnect between a tyrannical government and the citizenry, but sadly they are not. They have demonstrated that they do the will of the higher ups regardless of the what the law says. This is my beef with cops. They need to say no to tyrannical government that seeks only to trample and enslave.

In fact, they could do a 180 and arrest those above them for breaking the law when unscrupulous power hungry politiicians and activist governmental employees seek to subvert our Constitution. But, they don't, and won't, and are therefore agents of the state, not guardians of the law.
Originally Posted by MickeyD
Originally Posted by JoeBob
Milwaukee man’s house is surrounded by mob threatening him and his family. Man arms himself while remaining inside his house. Never comes out of his house. Mob views him through the window and calls the cops. Cops come and arrest man for brandishing leaving his home and his family undefended.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...lives-matter-mob-surrounding-home-video/

Don't blame the cops.
Blame the libtard demoschitts that run the city!
They've destroyed their cities and want to do the same to the country.


No, do blame the cops. The cops are not the only ones who bear responsibility, but they need to be held accountable for their actions.


Originally Posted by MickeyD
Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by MickeyD
Originally Posted by JoeBob
Milwaukee man’s house is surrounded by mob threatening him and his family. Man arms himself while remaining inside his house. Never comes out of his house. Mob views him through the window and calls the cops. Cops come and arrest man for brandishing leaving his home and his family undefended.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...lives-matter-mob-surrounding-home-video/

Don't blame the cops.
Blame the libtard demoschitts that run the city!
They've destroyed their cities and want to do the same to the country.


Bull Schit

The cops on the scene are exactly who to blame.

When the revolution starts, who's side will the cops be on.

You simply can not make a blanket statement about the cops being bad. It's simply not true. The vast majority are good people deserving of our respect.
If you look at how a similar situation would be handled in San Francisco, Chicago, D.C., or any other bastion of socialist paradise you'd find the cops would have handled it in a similar manner.
They were raised, educated and brainwashed by the systems the libtard demoschitts have burdened their cities with.
Not very likely to see this happen in more conservative communities.
Then, too, we really don't know the exact circumstances involved with this. The guy may have over reacted, though I doubt it. The point being, it's important to refrain from jumping to conclusions. Never lose your objectivity.
The cops may well be the villains in this case but wait until ALL the facts are known before rendering judgement. Is that not what you'd expect if you were the 'accused'?


I have known some terrific pit bulls. They are a fine dog, raised right. Some are not raised right and are a threat to all around them, especially women & children. Those pit bulls need a 230gr .45ACP slug to the brain.
Jesus told us :

"For the children of this world are in their generation wiser than the children of light.”

Evil workers love to outsmart those that don't want to play the game of power-grabbing. The very sin nature of mankind is to "be god" and those that love power make it their jobs, their hobbies and their passions to grab control over their fellow man. All men have a sin nature, but those that actively feed the "god complex' are the ones that love to control others. Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

We see cops getting shot and harassed now all over the USA. I have a theory and I believe if I am not spot-on, I am at the very least very close and I am trying to expose the policies of the Dem/Comms or perhaps just a parallel to them, but I do believe I am correct in the basis of my observations.

Cops are taught in P.O.S.T. academies all over the USA that lying to people is fine as long as you are "involved in an investigation". By the spirit of the law I can see some logic here, but in fact and practice, what that means is that cops can "create crimes" if they choose to, and they can "investigate" crimes that do not yet exist, and it's 'legal' --- but not actually lawful. The article posted above is one of many millions of examples, some worse and some less.

The good men and women in uniform will not do so, but such 'laws' make it very easy for the bad ones to do as they wish. And in 99 times out of 100, the goods ones don't see it's worth their time to make the bad one tow a righteous line, considering how the legislatures and federal government has stacked the deck in favor of the bad cops.

Just one of many hundreds of examples of evil people outsmarting honest people is all around us today and took the form of what they call education. Jesus warned us all.

Cops are told to go enforce dictatorial policies which are NOT LAW, (and CAN'T be Constitutional, even if corrupt politicians were to pass them) about wearing masks. Just one of many violations. Why? Government doesn't want cops and citizens to be "on the same side". That is just one of many hundreds of thousands of examples of cops extorting money for actions and inaction of citizens who are doing no harm, committing no crime, causing no one else any problems, infringing on no one else's rights, but are "violating policies" and the only "crime" disagreeing with corrupted politicians and not conforming to the whim of the new "god" in office.

Well the following is my observation:

Cops are being told to go be 'bad men" in the eyes of the public, and bully anyone who goes against the narrative of the evil politicians, and the cops, for the most part, do so gladly. They like the power, and "enforcing non-laws" is safer then actually fighting real criminals. The real reason is to cause no confidence in law enforcement from the population as a whole. And it's working! It's working because cops are not thinking but are just obeying what they are told, and never spending a minute to study history and see what happens 100% of time in such patterns. Look up sonderkommando as one of many examples throughout recorded history. Do you think the top communists are going to ask you to be members of their family as soon as you do all their bidding, and you'll live happily ever after?

As we saw in the shooting of the 2 deputies in Compton, we are hearing a LOT of cheers from non-involved citizens. Some are obviously evil ---- like those provocateurs in BLM and ANTIFA, but many cheers from ordinary citizens who feel no sympathy for the professional men and women in uniform, who 1 second before they were shot would have been 100% willing and even desirous to inflict unconstitutional bulling on innocent citizens, and have no knowledge of the history that led to the writing of the very Constitution they swore an oath to uphold and defend against domestic enemies.

I find such approval sicking, but I can't say I didn't see it coming, and that I didn't try to warn cops all over the USA for over 25 years what they were doing to public opinion by their actions. Having a feeling of power is fun for them until they see the power diminish and the rules change. it would not be a problem if the public was to be treated as a population to support rather then to rule. History is a great teacher, but proud and arrogant students cant and won't learn from it.

So back to the point above: ask yourself, what is an domestic enemy? Can it be anything other then a corrupt politician or an agent of a corrupt politician?

If so, please share. I'll wait.


So we hear BLM and ANTIFA calling for death to all cops and we focus on the outlandish calls from BLM and ANTIFA (as we are manipulated to do) , but in my opinion, they are just the decoys. The REAL problem is the politicians who lie to the cops and tell them being a bully is fine. They tell them they can lie to the people, and tell them to "take charge" (which is easily interpreted double speak for being a bully, instead of keeping in mine that they are SERVANTS, NOT MASTERS.) and then tell them to do nothing as long as the break-down and criminal activity is benefiting the communist take-over of the USA. But arrest anyone not wearing a 100% ineffective mask..................don't let that "danger" get past you! An uncovered face......well that is so much more dangerous to the people then open murder, arson, rape, looting, vandalism or destruction of infrastructure and cops do as they are told.

So what is the answer? Easy! It's the Constitution and specifically the Bill of Rights.

If you are told to arrest folks for non-crimes, not only do you refuse, but you should arrest anyone giving such an order for the high crime of constructive treason, breach of oath, operation under color of law, sedition----- and probably 10 other crimes that are already on the books, but which you were specifically NOT TAUGHT ABOUT in the P.O.S.T. academies.

Start to do your own thinking and your own research. Be a man and stand up for what's right, even when someone who gets paid more tells you not to.

There are many coalitions all over the nation fighting for the cause of liberty and the literal reading and enforcement of the Constitution for the united States. Ask them to help you. Read and understand the Constitution and WHY it was written. Learn it's history! Read the Bill of rights! Read it and re-read it, and DO NOT ASK any member of the Judiciary or BAR Association what to do or what it means. DO YOUR OWN Research ---and remember the lawyers are not in your branch of government. The executive branch is co-EQUAL not subservient to the Legislature or the Judiciary.

You are taught that such adherents to the Constitution are 'terrorists' by liars and yet you believe them? That is just one of the lies you are told. You see, the very same laws that say you can lie to the citizens are the ones that say your legislature can lie to you. And THEY DO!!!!

If you like action and the trill of enforcing law please do so, with all the good citizens blessings, but understand the highest crime that can be committed in the U.S. is not murder, rape, arson or robbery (even though we have seen cops ignore these crimes a LOT lately, because of the dictates of traitors in office which cops gleefully obey) The highest crime and the first crime you swore to oppose is TREASON, and it's all around you! Start arresting those that commit that crime, and next, arrest those that tell you to stop, as accessories to the crime of treason.

Go re-read your oath and then re-read the Bill of Rights-----about 20 times.

Just as a side note: It takes the average 10th grader 12 minutes to read the whole Bill of Rights, so PLEASE do not say it's "too big" or "too deep" for you to understand. If it is, you are not worthy of the title of dog-catcher---- let alone the title of Police Officer or Sheriff's Deputy. 12 minutes, even re-read times 20 is still only a 4 hour investment into the future of your country and the security of your own kids, as well as your own future as a citizen in a free country. And having an untrue belief about what the Bill of Rights means is worse then having no knowledge of it at all. How would you get a flawed understanding? By believing liars! DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH!!!

Quite being revenuers and "mask gestapo" and start being the heroes and the icons of truth and justice you should be! Public support will then be yours again. It should be, not because you are a cop, but because you are a VERY GOOD COP!

But keep being bullies for corrupt politicians and you will keep going into the abyss you yourselves are making. Think not? Ask why cities are burned and businesses are looted IN FRONT OF COPS if I am wrong. The reason is the cops do what the traitors tell them, with total disregard to the oath of alliance to the Constitution and put paychecks in a place of higher importance.

Politicians and judges DO NOT EVER institute politics on a nation directly. They don't arrest anyone or use force at all. That's YOUR "job" to do that --------and ONLY YOU!!!!!!

So start upholding and defending the Constitution as your #1 job and you will find much of the rest of the job falls right into line, and it will become a LOT safer, be a lot more respected, and you cops will be the thin blue line you should be, instead of just being pawns for politicians who lie to you, to us and to everyone, but use YOU to be their muscle, as their "useful idiots". "Who is the larger fool? the 1st fool or the fools that obey him".

You cease to be that idiot when you start to enforce laws against sedition and treason, which you are sworn to do! Yes you can, and you should arrest those that give unconstitutional orders as part of your SWORN duty!

If you don't you will see more of what you are seeing now, and it's not ANTIFA and BLM who are going to bring you and the USA down. Lack of respect fro the police from the normal citizens is part of the communist plan going back to the early 50s. And 100% of that lack of respect is due totally and completely to cops lack of understanding of the Bill of Rights and the laws against sedition and treason. BLM and ANTIFA are the decoys, but the plan is working as written and you cops are the core reason it is working because you have not been taught history of the law and the reasons for the Bill of rights in detail.

Get educated! Start NOW!

And listen to those that have a passion for the Constitution. Stop believing those that tell you about "fanatics" who believe in the Constitution and do your own thinking. YOU are supposed to be fanatics in that cause and you were even obligated to swear an oath to that effect just to get the job.

Start doing it! I know a few cops that have, and every one of them has won when they were ordered to stop. One is someone many of you have probably heard of, Sheriff Richard Mack.

Quit being the enemies of the "children of Light" that Jesus spoke about, or a useful tool for the evil people who would tear this nation apart. It's not them doing the tearing. It's YOU! 100% of political oppression and treason is actually done by cops, never by politicians or judges. They say.........You do! They only talk and write. You DO! So DON'T!

Do the opposite. Be our heroes! Give the citizens a good reason to revere you and respect you! That's the job!
Lenin wrote about the "useful Idiots"! DON'T BE ONE!!!!!!

In the book of Hosea God said to the Profit; "My people are destroyed for lack of Knowledge, and because you turn your back on knowledge I will turn my back on you".



Be out heroes, and may the Holy God protect you and guide you all, and I pray He will oppose any that advance evil for money and pride.
But, but what about my pension?
Originally Posted by MickeyD
Originally Posted by SPQR70AD
Originally Posted by MickeyD
Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by MickeyD
Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by MickeyD
Originally Posted by JoeBob
Milwaukee man’s house is surrounded by mob threatening him and his family. Man arms himself while remaining inside his house. Never comes out of his house. Mob views him through the window and calls the cops. Cops come and arrest man for brandishing leaving his home and his family undefended.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...lives-matter-mob-surrounding-home-video/

Don't blame the cops.
Blame the libtard demoschitts that run the city!
They've destroyed their cities and want to do the same to the country.


Bull Schit

The cops on the scene are exactly who to blame.

When the revolution starts, who's side will the cops be on.

You simply can not make a blanket statement about the cops being bad. It's simply not true. The vast majority are good people deserving of our respect.
If you look at how a similar situation would be handled in San Francisco, Chicago, D.C., or any other bastion of socialist paradise you'd find the cops would have handled it in a similar manner.
They were raised, educated and brainwashed by the systems the libtard demoschitts have burdened their cities with.
Not very likely to see this happen in more conservative communities.
Then, too, we really don't know the exact circumstances involved with this. The guy may have over reacted, though I doubt it. The point being, it's important to refrain from jumping to conclusions. Never lose your objectivity.
The cops may well be the villains in this case but wait until ALL the facts are known before rendering judgement. Is that not what you'd expect if you were the 'accused'?


Kenosia Kyle

Patricia and Mark McCloskey

Need more?




A couple of cases out of many thousands of police contact with people involving a few individual officers
As for the McCloskey's, did you not hear what they had to say about the officers that came to their home to take their weapons? They had no complaints against the officers...only the prosecutor. Learn about objectivity, it will serve you well.
Do you have even the slightest idea of what critical thinking is?

THE PROSECUTER WOULD HAVE NO POWER WITHOUT THE COPS. do you understand that? would the prosecuter go to their house and take their guns? get off your knees it would serve you well.

GFY, A SSHOLE.


When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser.
Originally Posted by SBTCO
4 pages of hand wringing over a short, incomplete report from Gateway Pundit (which hasn't exactly had a history of accurate reporting) based on one twitter account of unknown veracity.

How about waiting for the Paul Harvey moment before passing judgement.

Show where the GWP has reported inaccurately.

Not CNN the GWP

Specific examples required.
Originally Posted by SPQR70AD
Well at least I do not feel alone any more now that I see guys are starting to wake up. the reason the fake right has been losing for 50 years is they were led by POS pied pipers on talk radio and politicians covering up for the real enemies while putting out false boogey men
I call the coalition of the cops and BLM as the black and blue brigade



No you are not alone. There is an abundance of stupidity around here. Demonstrating alignment w/ blm and antifa is a profound statement.


mike r
City Cops be like..........

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Originally Posted by steve4102
More here:

Black Lives Matter Bringing ‘Protest Parties’ to Trump Supporters’ Homes, Facebook Account Still Active Despite Repeatedly Posting Addresses of Conservatives

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...eatedly-posting-addresses-conservatives/





Would not suggest that in my neighborhood. Trump signs all over the place.

LOL.
From the local cops to the GSP, small town USA looks good to me and there's no place that I'd rather be in times like these. We know all our officials on a first name basis and can call most on there cell phone if we have a problem. Some of the big city cops are like big city negros, their not worth the bullet to shoot them with.
PATHETIC: Milwaukee Police Release Statement Attempting to Justify Their Arrest of Armed Trump Supporter Defending His Home From Violent Mob of BLM Thugs

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...er-defending-home-violent-mob-blm-thugs/
I didnt read the article because I didnt want to alter my ad blocker... but if it went down as described, I would blame the police. If the citizens organized and attended town council meetings to get this settled, they would get it done. It seems beyond stupid that the homeowner would get in trouble. The only thing that might make a difference is if he was making threats and getting out of control when meeting with the police. This is not something that the citizens should stand for or tolerate.
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Kenosia Kyle

Patricia and Mark McCloskey

Need more?


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Exactly this. It is happening right out in the broad daylight in front of everyone. Media pushes false and incomplete information to form a guilty opinion by the public and people protest or complain to the government etc. Its a situation where the good guy has to overcome to much to win.
Remember, COPS are the ones doing all the evil of those wanting to destroy nations. Watch this vid and see what I am talking about. If you disagree with government about the Covid fraud, it's COPS that do the harm and force the will of the evil politicians and bankers on the people.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=71&v=Lh6VnB7JvW0&feature=emb_logo
Originally Posted by szihn
I think it's interesting how Dem/Comms and their tools in the media remain totally silent when a Dem/Comm commits a crime , just like cops.

We have a few cops and ex-cops on this forum. Isn't it interesting how none of them are outspoken and outraged when another cops violates someone eases rights or commit crimes themselves?

They are pro "good cop" (as are nearly all of us) but are 100% silent when we see bad cops doing the bidding of communists traitors. Just like all Dem Comms. Seems like a match to me.

Anyone else notice this?




Yea, we've been down this road for several years here. 3 or 4 years ago this was a big topic for some while. I have never seen them condemn the bad ones, as soon as it is proven without a shadow of a doubt that a particular cop is sheitty, they disappear and won't say a damn thing. Fuqk them.
As a cop, if you can find anything I ever posted, here or anywhere else, that backs up a bad cop I'll send you a c-note. I wouldn't have served that warrant. My wife is an lawyer, I can afford to walk away from my job. Not very many cops I know have that luxury. Arrest is not conviction. If there was a valid warrant, it's a legitimate arrest. We work off from case law, I think that a great deal of what is happening right now will be case law in ten years or so. It's not like thees guys led anyone into a gas chamber. People have bills. People have jobs. Sometimes keeping your job involves stepping outside your core values. Didn't Jesus say something about casting the first stone?
Patrick
“Arrest is not a conviction”

Not it’s not, but it is a Huge financial burden placed on those arrested.

You say “most cops can’t afford that luxury “

Well I’ve got news for you, most of us working stiffs can’t afford the cost to defend ourselves in court either.
Agreed, it's a cluster-F. I feel for the guy who got arrested, I also feel for the guy who made the arrest. My point was that there are good guys put in situations where they have to decide between their job and their moral compass. I just don't think it's as clear a line as you think. Cops are walking a really fine line right now and catching crap from both sides. It's a no win situation. Glad I'm not in a patrol car anymore.
Patrick
Originally Posted by dodge268
Agreed, it's a cluster-F. I feel for the guy who got arrested, I also feel for the guy who made the arrest. My point was that there are good guys put in situations where they have to decide between their job and their moral compass. I just don't think it's as clear a line as you think. Cops are walking a really fine line right now and catching crap from both sides. It's a no win situation. Glad I'm not in a patrol car anymore.
Patrick


[bleep] the guy who made the arrest. He could have refused and quit.
Sure could have. Would you?
Patrick
https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-09-15-trump-official-warns-left-wing-hit-squads.html

And cops protect the communists.
Originally Posted by dodge268
Sure could have. Would you?
Patrick


I’ve quit jobs for less.
Originally Posted by mirage243
Originally Posted by szihn
I think it's interesting how Dem/Comms and their tools in the media remain totally silent when a Dem/Comm commits a crime , just like cops.

We have a few cops and ex-cops on this forum. Isn't it interesting how none of them are outspoken and outraged when another cops violates someone eases rights or commit crimes themselves?

They are pro "good cop" (as are nearly all of us) but are 100% silent when we see bad cops doing the bidding of communists traitors. Just like all Dem Comms. Seems like a match to me.

Anyone else notice this?




Yea, we've been down this road for several years here. 3 or 4 years ago this was a big topic for some while. I have never seen them condemn the bad ones, as soon as it is proven without a shadow of a doubt that a particular cop is sheitty, they disappear and won't say a damn thing. Fuqk them.
A lot of people have left. Some were some pretty good old boys, others were asswholes that were well liked. An example of the latter is S Head, although it's not a good example since he's still around under several sock puppets. But some of the others that were well liked...good riddance. Some cops have left and there are few of them taking up for their blue bros on this because there are currently a lot of things being done by the cops that are wrong and just can't be blah-blah-ed away.
Cops protect the Communists? In America, I was under the impression that cops protect every one. It's in the constitution.
Patrick
Originally Posted by Ranger_Green

Not true, Szhin. We have spoken more than once. And I have expressed my distrust of my political leaders and displeasure at dishonest cops.

I have lost the ability long ago when confronting, politely, my superiors at work when they veered into gray areas when charging people, especially with gun crimes. I have lost half the time. The charges have lost more but I will never promote/ i have lost choice assignments and now have lost a lousy assignment that worked for me. This for defending a stranger's rights and freedom.

But go on hating ALL cops for the actions of a bad few or the mistakes of an ill led department.
By arguing your point, you're actually showing that the other side is correct. You're a good cop that has been screwed over all your career for wanting to do the right thing. That tells me that there's more bad cops than good ones. Good luck!
If that's your take away form this you're missing the point.
I’m just glad I live in the county zone
I also live way out in the country, but when I was a military man I saw the effects of communism in the country sides too in a few different countries and you can believe me, you are not safe just because you are not in a city.
Anyone that has not actually seen the communist takeover of a country has no idea how bad things can get. I have!

There is no neutrality in this issue. Doing nothing IS helping the communist succeed.
Originally Posted by dodge268
Sometimes keeping your job involves stepping outside your core values.


Isn't that what a crackwhore does?
Originally Posted by Fubarski
Originally Posted by dodge268
Sometimes keeping your job involves stepping outside your core values.


Isn't that what a crackwhore does?



I suppose.
Thanks for helping
Originally Posted by dodge268
Originally Posted by Fubarski
Originally Posted by dodge268
Sometimes keeping your job involves stepping outside your core values.


Isn't that what a crackwhore does?



I suppose.
Thanks for helping


Just wanted ta make certain we were on the same page.
No worries.
Also, good job for picking the one sentence in a post that supports your idea.
Patrick
Originally Posted by deflave
I’m pretty sure everything in Wisconsin has Down Syndrome.

I don’t know why the cops would be any different.



I camped next to cops from Green Bay while out bow hunting in the ND badlands. I would have to agree with this statement, for the most part.
Originally Posted by dodge268
Also, good job for picking the one sentence in a post that supports your idea.
Patrick


You're free to replace it with one that's not as stupid.
I already did. It's the post you took that sentence from.
Originally Posted by dodge268
I already did. It's the post you took that sentence from.


The rest of the post tries to explain the same concept, i.e., that it's OK for a cop to do the wrong thing, if it's what it takes ta keep gettin paid.

Which agrees with the OP.

Like I said, just wanted ta make sure we're on the same page.
Originally Posted by jfruser
Originally Posted by MickeyD
Originally Posted by JoeBob
Milwaukee man’s house is surrounded by mob threatening him and his family. Man arms himself while remaining inside his house. Never comes out of his house. Mob views him through the window and calls the cops. Cops come and arrest man for brandishing leaving his home and his family undefended.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...lives-matter-mob-surrounding-home-video/

Don't blame the cops.
Blame the libtard demoschitts that run the city!
They've destroyed their cities and want to do the same to the country.


No, do blame the cops. The cops are not the only ones who bear responsibility, but they need to be held accountable for their actions.


Originally Posted by MickeyD
Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by MickeyD
Originally Posted by JoeBob
Milwaukee man’s house is surrounded by mob threatening him and his family. Man arms himself while remaining inside his house. Never comes out of his house. Mob views him through the window and calls the cops. Cops come and arrest man for brandishing leaving his home and his family undefended.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...lives-matter-mob-surrounding-home-video/

Don't blame the cops.
Blame the libtard demoschitts that run the city!
They've destroyed their cities and want to do the same to the country.


Bull Schit

The cops on the scene are exactly who to blame.

When the revolution starts, who's side will the cops be on.

You simply can not make a blanket statement about the cops being bad. It's simply not true. The vast majority are good people deserving of our respect.
If you look at how a similar situation would be handled in San Francisco, Chicago, D.C., or any other bastion of socialist paradise you'd find the cops would have handled it in a similar manner.
They were raised, educated and brainwashed by the systems the libtard demoschitts have burdened their cities with.
Not very likely to see this happen in more conservative communities.
Then, too, we really don't know the exact circumstances involved with this. The guy may have over reacted, though I doubt it. The point being, it's important to refrain from jumping to conclusions. Never lose your objectivity.
The cops may well be the villains in this case but wait until ALL the facts are known before rendering judgement. Is that not what you'd expect if you were the 'accused'?


I have known some terrific pit bulls. They are a fine dog, raised right. Some are not raised right and are a threat to all around them, especially women & children. Those pit bulls need a 230gr .45ACP slug to the brain.


I have no problem with making cops (or any one else) accountable for any and all wrong actions (or inactions).
It is the height of stupidity to paint all cops as bad because of the few that actually are bad.
Taking what you read or see from the MSM, or the internet, as gospel is pure folly. A wise man will withhold judgement until all the actual facts are known. It's what's known as being objective.
Originally Posted by Fubarski
Originally Posted by dodge268
I already did. It's the post you took that sentence from.


The rest of the post tries to explain the same concept, i.e., that it's OK for a cop to do the wrong thing, if it's what it takes ta keep gettin paid.

Which agrees with the OP.

Like I said, just wanted ta make sure we're on the same page.

Oh to be you. Don't let the stigmata get in the way of your typing.......
Originally Posted by lvmiker
Originally Posted by SPQR70AD
Well at least I do not feel alone any more now that I see guys are starting to wake up. the reason the fake right has been losing for 50 years is they were led by POS pied pipers on talk radio and politicians covering up for the real enemies while putting out false boogey men
I call the coalition of the cops and BLM as the black and blue brigade



No you are not alone. There is an abundance of stupidity around here. Demonstrating alignment w/ blm and antifa is a profound statement.


mike r


Darn tooting. Maybe those big city LEOs ought to stop doing that.


Originally Posted by dodge268
As a cop, if you can find anything I ever posted, here or anywhere else, that backs up a bad cop I'll send you a c-note. I wouldn't have served that warrant. My wife is an lawyer, I can afford to walk away from my job. Not very many cops I know have that luxury. Arrest is not conviction. If there was a valid warrant, it's a legitimate arrest. We work off from case law, I think that a great deal of what is happening right now will be case law in ten years or so. It's not like thees guys led anyone into a gas chamber. People have bills. People have jobs. Sometimes keeping your job involves stepping outside your core values. Didn't Jesus say something about casting the first stone?
Patrick


When an auto mechanic "steps outside his core values" his customers end up with new brake pads earlier than they might otherwise. When a LEO "steps outside his core values" it is a life-changing event for non-dirtbags.

If we want LEOs to act responsibly, I think we need to find a way to inflict cost on big city blm/antifa-supporting LEOs greater than the cost of losing a pension. Any ideas?

Originally Posted by steve4102
“Arrest is not a conviction”

Not it’s not, but it is a Huge financial burden placed on those arrested.

You say “most cops can’t afford that luxury “

Well I’ve got news for you, most of us working stiffs can’t afford the cost to defend ourselves in court either.


The very wealthy, the dirt poor, and the unioned-up LEOs can afford the cost of collision with the law system without being ruined. Middle class solid-ctizens get to spend their life's savings on a lawyer to keep them out of prison.


Originally Posted by dodge268
Sure could have. Would you?
Patrick


I deliberately avoided LEAs and enlisted in the us military at MUCH LOWER pay than LEOs get so I would not have to oppress fellow citizens. Some folks just have higher standards, I guess.

We just had a case when some dirty SOB ambushed two cops in LA County and shot them in the head while in their cruiser. Thug maybe looked for an opportunity and then took it when it rolled near him. What happens when Solid Citizens get fed up with taking it up the poohp chute from LEOs doing the bidding of the evil ruling class? If those LEO pawns expect to collect that pension, they are going to have to be VERY careful.

It is a tight spot to be in, but shopkeepers, homeowners, and suchlike folk are being put into similarly tight situations without making the problem worse.
Originally Posted by jfruser
Originally Posted by lvmiker
Originally Posted by SPQR70AD
Well at least I do not feel alone any more now that I see guys are starting to wake up. the reason the fake right has been losing for 50 years is they were led by POS pied pipers on talk radio and politicians covering up for the real enemies while putting out false boogey men
I call the coalition of the cops and BLM as the black and blue brigade



No you are not alone. There is an abundance of stupidity around here. Demonstrating alignment w/ blm and antifa is a profound statement.


mike r


Darn tooting. Maybe those big city LEOs ought to stop doing that.


Originally Posted by dodge268
As a cop, if you can find anything I ever posted, here or anywhere else, that backs up a bad cop I'll send you a c-note. I wouldn't have served that warrant. My wife is an lawyer, I can afford to walk away from my job. Not very many cops I know have that luxury. Arrest is not conviction. If there was a valid warrant, it's a legitimate arrest. We work off from case law, I think that a great deal of what is happening right now will be case law in ten years or so. It's not like thees guys led anyone into a gas chamber. People have bills. People have jobs. Sometimes keeping your job involves stepping outside your core values. Didn't Jesus say something about casting the first stone?
Patrick


When an auto mechanic "steps outside his core values" his customers end up with new brake pads earlier than they might otherwise. When a LEO "steps outside his core values" it is a life-changing event for non-dirtbags.

If we want LEOs to act responsibly, I think we need to find a way to inflict cost on big city blm/antifa-supporting LEOs greater than the cost of losing a pension. Any ideas?

Originally Posted by steve4102
“Arrest is not a conviction”

Not it’s not, but it is a Huge financial burden placed on those arrested.

You say “most cops can’t afford that luxury “

Well I’ve got news for you, most of us working stiffs can’t afford the cost to defend ourselves in court either.


The very wealthy, the dirt poor, and the unioned-up LEOs can afford the cost of collision with the law system without being ruined. Middle class solid-ctizens get to spend their life's savings on a lawyer to keep them out of prison.


Originally Posted by dodge268
Sure could have. Would you?
Patrick


I deliberately avoided LEAs and enlisted in the us military at MUCH LOWER pay than LEOs get so I would not have to oppress fellow citizens. Some folks just have higher standards, I guess.

We just had a case when some dirty SOB ambushed two cops in LA County and shot them in the head while in their cruiser. Thug maybe looked for an opportunity and then took it when it rolled near him. What happens when Solid Citizens get fed up with taking it up the poohp chute from LEOs doing the bidding of the evil ruling class? If those LEO pawns expect to collect that pension, they are going to have to be VERY careful.

It is a tight spot to be in, but shopkeepers, homeowners, and suchlike folk are being put into similarly tight situations without making the problem worse.

I most humbly apologize for being a tool of the ruling class. Thank you for your service.
Patrick
EthanEdwards having cops quit rather then stand for what's right is not the right thing to do. I admit it here and now, I made that mistake myself and it was one of the worse things I ever did. But I did learn by the mistake and I have tried for years to help others learn by it so they don't have to make it themselves.

I don't think cops should quit when told to enforce bad policies and I don't think they should be defunded. I think they should step up to the line and be MEN, and stand for what's right! And if they get fired go to court and bring attention to their case and especially to the unlawful orders they refused to obey. In so doing they bring honor back to the profession. Arresting politicians for treason, sedition and operation under color of law is one way to REALLY bring attention of the type the evil those scumbags would not want, even if the charge was dropped (by a judge that also when then have the same degree of scrutiny by the public.)

I often feel like a 'bad-ass Sergeant" again when I rebuke, but if the truth was known, I have a very soft spot for cops having been one myself and having my best 3 friends on earth all being COPS.
But rebuke given in honesty and truth is an act of love, not hate. Contrary to what many would think reading my writings I am VERY pro-cop, but only good cops. I was hard on my Marines and soldiers too, but not because I didn't care.

Many cops want to be secure in their jobs far more then they want to be good men. That's what I want to see changed. They have asked me in print and in person if i would quit rather then obey an unlawful command. Yes I would have because that's what I did. But I was wrong for doing that. I should have stood my ground and made a legal issue out of it, nationally if possible.

One cop told me he "suits up and put his life on the line every day". I am sure he was sincere too, but I did that to a much higher degree myself, before I was a cop, standing against outright evil, so his attempt to speak down to me was wasted. I KNOW what the agenda's end game is. I saw it first hand.
"Suit up?"
Here is a picture of me and my friends "suited up" and going to work in the days I got to see communism in action. As you may guess I do have a real problem with communists and those that protect them.
[Linked Image from live.staticflickr.com]Waiting for the Green Light by Steve Zihn, on [bleep]

Originally Posted by jfruser
Originally Posted by MickeyD
Originally Posted by JoeBob
Milwaukee man’s house is surrounded by mob threatening him and his family. Man arms himself while remaining inside his house. Never comes out of his house. Mob views him through the window and calls the cops. Cops come and arrest man for brandishing leaving his home and his family undefended.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...lives-matter-mob-surrounding-home-video/

Don't blame the cops.
Blame the libtard demoschitts that run the city!
They've destroyed their cities and want to do the same to the country.


No, do blame the cops. The cops are not the only ones who bear responsibility, but they need to be held accountable for their actions.


Originally Posted by MickeyD
Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by MickeyD
Originally Posted by JoeBob
Milwaukee man’s house is surrounded by mob threatening him and his family. Man arms himself while remaining inside his house. Never comes out of his house. Mob views him through the window and calls the cops. Cops come and arrest man for brandishing leaving his home and his family undefended.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...lives-matter-mob-surrounding-home-video/

Don't blame the cops.
Blame the libtard demoschitts that run the city!
They've destroyed their cities and want to do the same to the country.


Bull Schit

The cops on the scene are exactly who to blame.

When the revolution starts, who's side will the cops be on.

You simply can not make a blanket statement about the cops being bad. It's simply not true. The vast majority are good people deserving of our respect.
If you look at how a similar situation would be handled in San Francisco, Chicago, D.C., or any other bastion of socialist paradise you'd find the cops would have handled it in a similar manner.
They were raised, educated and brainwashed by the systems the libtard demoschitts have burdened their cities with.
Not very likely to see this happen in more conservative communities.
Then, too, we really don't know the exact circumstances involved with this. The guy may have over reacted, though I doubt it. The point being, it's important to refrain from jumping to conclusions. Never lose your objectivity.
The cops may well be the villains in this case but wait until ALL the facts are known before rendering judgement. Is that not what you'd expect if you were the 'accused'?


I have known some terrific pit bulls. They are a fine dog, raised right. Some are not raised right and are a threat to all around them, especially women & children. Those pit bulls need a 230gr .45ACP slug to the brain.


I have no problem with making cops (or any one else) accountable for any and all wrong actions (or inactions).
It is the height of stupidity to paint all cops as bad because of the few that actually are bad.
Taking what you read or see from the MSM, it he internet, as gospel is pure folly. A wise man will withhold judgement until all the actual facts are known. It's what's known as being objective.
Originally Posted by steve4102
PATHETIC: Milwaukee Police Release Statement Attempting to Justify Their Arrest of Armed Trump Supporter Defending His Home From Violent Mob of BLM Thugs

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...er-defending-home-violent-mob-blm-thugs/

If what the GWP wrote is what actually happened then, yes, the cops were very wrong.
The problem with reacting the way you did is that neither you nor I actually KNOW, beyond reasonable doubt, if what was written is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.
It's about objectivity and critical thinking rather than flying off the handle with a mindless rant over what someone's brother's mother's sisters neighbors uncle supposedly stated to some wanna be reporter.
You mis-spelled Sergeant.
To protect and serve who exactly? Their political masters or the people that pay them with their taxes?
Yup I sure did misspell it. I'll fix it
Originally Posted by dodge268
Sure could have. Would you?
Patrick


Could, and would. Like another poster, I have quit better jobs for less. Principles matter.

Originally Posted by dodge268
Cops protect the Communists? In America, I was under the impression that cops protect every one. It's in the constitution.
Patrick


Sorry, fella. Cops protect nobody. And there is legal precedent to back that assertion. Cops sometimes put themselves in harm’s way to stop a violent or dangerous person, and in that instance, yes, they are protecting someone. But much more often, they are too late to stop the murder, robbery, burglary, domestic assault, or fight. They are simply there to arrest someone for the crime. That is their job, not protection of everyone. As a cop, you should know this, which makes me wonder why you posted the above. Wanna quote me the relevant portion of the Constitution that says cops protect everyone? I studied it pretty seriously, and must have missed it.

Even if cops could protect everyone, admitting that they would protect communists too won’t gain much support in this country...
Originally Posted by OldGrayWolf
Originally Posted by dodge268
Sure could have. Would you?
Patrick


Could, and would. Like another poster, I have quit better jobs for less. Principles matter.

Originally Posted by dodge268
Cops protect the Communists? In America, I was under the impression that cops protect every one. It's in the constitution.
Patrick


Sorry, fella. Cops protect nobody. And there is legal precedent to back that assertion. Cops sometimes put themselves in harm’s way to stop a violent or dangerous person, and in that instance, yes, they are protecting someone. But much more often, they are too late to stop the murder, robbery, burglary, domestic assault, or fight. They are simply there to arrest someone for the crime. That is their job, not protection of everyone. As a cop, you should know this, which makes me wonder why you posted the above. Wanna quote me the relevant portion of the Constitution that says cops protect everyone? I studied it pretty seriously, and must have missed it.

Even if cops could protect everyone, admitting that they would protect communists too won’t gain much support in this country...

Pretty sure it's the equal protection clause. Presumably every one is equal under the law. Everyone knows that isn't really true.
Patrick
You think the equal protection clause says the police are to protect everyone in America? That’s.... amazing.
nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
How would you read this? Seems pretty clear to me.
Originally Posted by marktheshark
Originally Posted by SPQR70AD
Originally Posted by marktheshark
Originally Posted by SPQR70AD
Originally Posted by marktheshark
Simple solution....Dont live in an urban scheitt hole!!! I can guarantee the cops around here would not pull a similar stunt! Our LE up through the ranks and including the county DA are VERY supportive of citizens firearm rights and have proven so in the way several self defense firearm use cases have been handled.

bull sh it when push comes to shove the cops during a BLM riot will take their side as the black and blue brigade. it just hasnt hit your town yet. guys in small towns opinions really dont matter at all cause the cities control the states. like NY illionois Penn cali etc. you do not set policy they do



GFY, I am in NO WAY a blind cop supporter, HOWEVER, I do know the local cops, many on a personal basis as I am a deputy fire chief here. I can state without hesistation that they stand on the side of the Patriots. Also our local elected officials, up to the county level do also. And it has hit not all that far away, see the Lancaster PA riots earlier this week and how they were handled. No puzzy Portland pandering here! You are a fuggin know everything fuggin jackazz.

you are full of sh it. if HUD came into your town wanting to put Sec Ape housing for somalians and you went out to protest to stop it your patriot protecting cops will smash your head in. I have seen that and heard it from friends. of course you on the side of cops you are a tax parasite like they are. I will say it again if you live in a small town or state without many people you MAY get away and be lucky that dont come to your town but if it did you would change your tune



What the phouck are you talking about you phugging tool?? A tax sucking parasite???? I happen to be a VOLUNTEER fire chief that receives no compensation so you are dead wrong there as you are with most of the bullsheit you spew on here!!! I also happen to own a business that has a yearly gross revenue most likely higher then your lifetime earnings!! I can guarantee you I have contributed more to this nation than you ever have! You think you know everything about everything, but only continuously prove how much of phuggin fool you actually are! As I said Lancaster PA is not far from me at all and see how the riots and rioters were handled the other evening. No Portland here!!

I would have bet my right arm that you would shovel out the standard big pile off horse sh it. I do all this for charity. I had a paper route when I was 4 years old .made 4 cents a month now have a multi trillion dollar international company. all you people got the same line of sh it
Originally Posted by szihn
Jesus told us :

"For the children of this world are in their generation wiser than the children of light.”

Evil workers love to outsmart those that don't want to play the game of power-grabbing. The very sin nature of mankind is to "be god" and those that love power make it their jobs, their hobbies and their passions to grab control over their fellow man. All men have a sin nature, but those that actively feed the "god complex' are the ones that love to control others. Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

We see cops getting shot and harassed now all over the USA. I have a theory and I believe if I am not spot-on, I am at the very least very close and I am trying to expose the policies of the Dem/Comms or perhaps just a parallel to them, but I do believe I am correct in the basis of my observations.

Cops are taught in P.O.S.T. academies all over the USA that lying to people is fine as long as you are "involved in an investigation". By the spirit of the law I can see some logic here, but in fact and practice, what that means is that cops can "create crimes" if they choose to, and they can "investigate" crimes that do not yet exist, and it's 'legal' --- but not actually lawful. The article posted above is one of many millions of examples, some worse and some less.

The good men and women in uniform will not do so, but such 'laws' make it very easy for the bad ones to do as they wish. And in 99 times out of 100, the goods ones don't see it's worth their time to make the bad one tow a righteous line, considering how the legislatures and federal government has stacked the deck in favor of the bad cops.

Just one of many hundreds of examples of evil people outsmarting honest people is all around us today and took the form of what they call education. Jesus warned us all.

Cops are told to go enforce dictatorial policies which are NOT LAW, (and CAN'T be Constitutional, even if corrupt politicians were to pass them) about wearing masks. Just one of many violations. Why? Government doesn't want cops and citizens to be "on the same side". That is just one of many hundreds of thousands of examples of cops extorting money for actions and inaction of citizens who are doing no harm, committing no crime, causing no one else any problems, infringing on no one else's rights, but are "violating policies" and the only "crime" disagreeing with corrupted politicians and not conforming to the whim of the new "god" in office.

Well the following is my observation:

Cops are being told to go be 'bad men" in the eyes of the public, and bully anyone who goes against the narrative of the evil politicians, and the cops, for the most part, do so gladly. They like the power, and "enforcing non-laws" is safer then actually fighting real criminals. The real reason is to cause no confidence in law enforcement from the population as a whole. And it's working! It's working because cops are not thinking but are just obeying what they are told, and never spending a minute to study history and see what happens 100% of time in such patterns. Look up sonderkommando as one of many examples throughout recorded history. Do you think the top communists are going to ask you to be members of their family as soon as you do all their bidding, and you'll live happily ever after?

As we saw in the shooting of the 2 deputies in Compton, we are hearing a LOT of cheers from non-involved citizens. Some are obviously evil ---- like those provocateurs in BLM and ANTIFA, but many cheers from ordinary citizens who feel no sympathy for the professional men and women in uniform, who 1 second before they were shot would have been 100% willing and even desirous to inflict unconstitutional bulling on innocent citizens, and have no knowledge of the history that led to the writing of the very Constitution they swore an oath to uphold and defend against domestic enemies.

I find such approval sicking, but I can't say I didn't see it coming, and that I didn't try to warn cops all over the USA for over 25 years what they were doing to public opinion by their actions. Having a feeling of power is fun for them until they see the power diminish and the rules change. it would not be a problem if the public was to be treated as a population to support rather then to rule. History is a great teacher, but proud and arrogant students cant and won't learn from it.

So back to the point above: ask yourself, what is an domestic enemy? Can it be anything other then a corrupt politician or an agent of a corrupt politician?

If so, please share. I'll wait.


So we hear BLM and ANTIFA calling for death to all cops and we focus on the outlandish calls from BLM and ANTIFA (as we are manipulated to do) , but in my opinion, they are just the decoys. The REAL problem is the politicians who lie to the cops and tell them being a bully is fine. They tell them they can lie to the people, and tell them to "take charge" (which is easily interpreted double speak for being a bully, instead of keeping in mine that they are SERVANTS, NOT MASTERS.) and then tell them to do nothing as long as the break-down and criminal activity is benefiting the communist take-over of the USA. But arrest anyone not wearing a 100% ineffective mask..................don't let that "danger" get past you! An uncovered face......well that is so much more dangerous to the people then open murder, arson, rape, looting, vandalism or destruction of infrastructure and cops do as they are told.

So what is the answer? Easy! It's the Constitution and specifically the Bill of Rights.

If you are told to arrest folks for non-crimes, not only do you refuse, but you should arrest anyone giving such an order for the high crime of constructive treason, breach of oath, operation under color of law, sedition----- and probably 10 other crimes that are already on the books, but which you were specifically NOT TAUGHT ABOUT in the P.O.S.T. academies.

Start to do your own thinking and your own research. Be a man and stand up for what's right, even when someone who gets paid more tells you not to.

There are many coalitions all over the nation fighting for the cause of liberty and the literal reading and enforcement of the Constitution for the united States. Ask them to help you. Read and understand the Constitution and WHY it was written. Learn it's history! Read the Bill of rights! Read it and re-read it, and DO NOT ASK any member of the Judiciary or BAR Association what to do or what it means. DO YOUR OWN Research ---and remember the lawyers are not in your branch of government. The executive branch is co-EQUAL not subservient to the Legislature or the Judiciary.

You are taught that such adherents to the Constitution are 'terrorists' by liars and yet you believe them? That is just one of the lies you are told. You see, the very same laws that say you can lie to the citizens are the ones that say your legislature can lie to you. And THEY DO!!!!

If you like action and the trill of enforcing law please do so, with all the good citizens blessings, but understand the highest crime that can be committed in the U.S. is not murder, rape, arson or robbery (even though we have seen cops ignore these crimes a LOT lately, because of the dictates of traitors in office which cops gleefully obey) The highest crime and the first crime you swore to oppose is TREASON, and it's all around you! Start arresting those that commit that crime, and next, arrest those that tell you to stop, as accessories to the crime of treason.

Go re-read your oath and then re-read the Bill of Rights-----about 20 times.

Just as a side note: It takes the average 10th grader 12 minutes to read the whole Bill of Rights, so PLEASE do not say it's "too big" or "too deep" for you to understand. If it is, you are not worthy of the title of dog-catcher---- let alone the title of Police Officer or Sheriff's Deputy. 12 minutes, even re-read times 20 is still only a 4 hour investment into the future of your country and the security of your own kids, as well as your own future as a citizen in a free country. And having an untrue belief about what the Bill of Rights means is worse then having no knowledge of it at all. How would you get a flawed understanding? By believing liars! DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH!!!

Quite being revenuers and "mask gestapo" and start being the heroes and the icons of truth and justice you should be! Public support will then be yours again. It should be, not because you are a cop, but because you are a VERY GOOD COP!

But keep being bullies for corrupt politicians and you will keep going into the abyss you yourselves are making. Think not? Ask why cities are burned and businesses are looted IN FRONT OF COPS if I am wrong. The reason is the cops do what the traitors tell them, with total disregard to the oath of alliance to the Constitution and put paychecks in a place of higher importance.

Politicians and judges DO NOT EVER institute politics on a nation directly. They don't arrest anyone or use force at all. That's YOUR "job" to do that --------and ONLY YOU!!!!!!

So start upholding and defending the Constitution as your #1 job and you will find much of the rest of the job falls right into line, and it will become a LOT safer, be a lot more respected, and you cops will be the thin blue line you should be, instead of just being pawns for politicians who lie to you, to us and to everyone, but use YOU to be their muscle, as their "useful idiots". "Who is the larger fool? the 1st fool or the fools that obey him".

You cease to be that idiot when you start to enforce laws against sedition and treason, which you are sworn to do! Yes you can, and you should arrest those that give unconstitutional orders as part of your SWORN duty!

If you don't you will see more of what you are seeing now, and it's not ANTIFA and BLM who are going to bring you and the USA down. Lack of respect fro the police from the normal citizens is part of the communist plan going back to the early 50s. And 100% of that lack of respect is due totally and completely to cops lack of understanding of the Bill of Rights and the laws against sedition and treason. BLM and ANTIFA are the decoys, but the plan is working as written and you cops are the core reason it is working because you have not been taught history of the law and the reasons for the Bill of rights in detail.

Get educated! Start NOW!

And listen to those that have a passion for the Constitution. Stop believing those that tell you about "fanatics" who believe in the Constitution and do your own thinking. YOU are supposed to be fanatics in that cause and you were even obligated to swear an oath to that effect just to get the job.

Start doing it! I know a few cops that have, and every one of them has won when they were ordered to stop. One is someone many of you have probably heard of, Sheriff Richard Mack.

Quit being the enemies of the "children of Light" that Jesus spoke about, or a useful tool for the evil people who would tear this nation apart. It's not them doing the tearing. It's YOU! 100% of political oppression and treason is actually done by cops, never by politicians or judges. They say.........You do! They only talk and write. You DO! So DON'T!

Do the opposite. Be our heroes! Give the citizens a good reason to revere you and respect you! That's the job!
Lenin wrote about the "useful Idiots"! DON'T BE ONE!!!!!!

In the book of Hosea God said to the Profit; "My people are destroyed for lack of Knowledge, and because you turn your back on knowledge I will turn my back on you".



Be out heroes, and may the Holy God protect you and guide you all, and I pray He will oppose any that advance evil for money and pride.

it is totally utterly impossible to argue with the truth and logic in this post. anyone that does has brain damage or is a traitor to what this country was founded on
Originally Posted by dodge268
nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
How would you read this? Seems pretty clear to me.

Equal protection is why Kyle Rittenhouse is being prosecuted to the fullest capacity of the (in)justice system while 100s and 1000s of BLM/Antifa terrorists, arsonists, looters, and assaulters are put immediately back on the ztreet in a huge catch and release program.
Again, reality and ideals rarely meet. I'm not naive enough to think that everyone is treated equally, what I said was that I did what I could when I could. You are confusing cops and courts. We have very little say in what happens during the prosecution and I don't know any cops who are happy about the catch and release programs. We aren't the release part, just the catch part.
Patrick
szhin...I read a lot of your posts and agree with almost everything you say. I'm on your side here. I'm just saying that as an individual and an individual cop, Ranger Green is outstanding.
Originally Posted by dodge268
nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
How would you read this? Seems pretty clear to me.


The laws are not the police, just so you know. That clause mandates lawful and impartial action by the courts in applying the laws to each case in a consistent manner. It has nothing to do with cops being bodyguards for society at large.

You've been a cop for some time, you say. How many murders, burglaries, and wife beatings have you prevented? Versus showing up after the fact.

I have a good friend who became a cop for a while. He asked me before he took the job if it would hurt our friendship. Told him not as long as he did it right. He did. And he is no longer a cop. It is my considered opinion gained from talking to both current and former cops, that an honorable man has a very hard time being a cop these days. Most places, it's impossible.
I don't think I made myself clear about the protecting everyone. My meaning was that I try to be fair in my enforcement of the law. I have no idea how many, if any of those things I prevented. I understand that law enforcement is more reactive than proactive. I agree with your opinion that an honorable man has a hard time being a cop right now. I'm trying to coast out my last couple of years before I pop smoke.
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