Our daughter posted this on her facebook page. After seeing some of McD's employees, it doesn't surprise me.
Hey you all. Math is important. I was at McDonald’s getting a Sweet Tea and my total was $1.08. So I handed the worker one quarter $.25, eight dimes $.10 and three pennies .01. In my book that adds up to $1.08. But sadly her responses were not that. I kid you not these were her answers after about a minute of counting. Me-everything good? Her-ugh, ma’am you only gave me $.95 Me-what about the pennies? Her-ummm (recounting), umm there is only $.93 cents Me-May I see the money? (she hands me back my coins) So I do what any smart person would do. I count the money in front of her. Her-oh ummm, ok. Listen people. Math matters.
When was the last time someone actually counted back your change correctly?
For me, it was an elderly cashier with impeccable skills and obvious experience. Haven't seen anyone under 50 able to count change without a calculator.
Generally when ever I make a small purchase at a convenient store I will round up to 15 or 20 bucks with a fuel purchase. If they tell me the purchase is $6.11 I tell them to give me $8.89 on pump so and so. Sometimes they look at me confused until they put into the register. Then a lot of times they will look up and say Cool! Math Just amazes some folks!
I get some sort of perverse joy out of giving them a five, and then the 8 cents after they rung up the sale and watch their head explode trying to figure out what to do.....
One of the racist agendas is forcing black kids to learn white men's math. They think that whites and blacks have different maths for some reason. Many thousands of black kids have dropped out of school rather than learn racist math.
I stopped at a feed store a while back to buy chicken feed. I paid with cash. She looked at my money for a minute then got on her I phone. She then gave me change that was in puzzling denominations. Nicely, I asked her how she did it. She had used a search engine to do it. She showed me on her phone. The search engine came up with something like 7 ones 3 five and 3 10s for my change.
Her dad owned the feed store and it was a Saturday. I guess he just hoped she could pull it off
Safeway cashier a while back, woman in her 20's, absolutely flummoxed over a 10% veteran's discount, finally had to drag out her purse and figure it on her phone. This despite myself and the guy behind me telling her what it amounted to. Sad. Probably had a high school diploma . Not a minority either.
I get some sort of perverse joy out of giving them a five, and then the 8 cents after they rung up the sale and watch their head explode trying to figure out what to do.....
Try giving them a couple $2 bills and a $1 coin instead of the $5 bill. The dont know where to put it in their tray.
Guy i used to work with said I was a "monetary terrorist"
When we owned restaurants, we were shocked that our employees could not give proper change. So we had to purchase an automatic change dispenser hooked up to the register. $1,500, at the time, and worth every penny.
When was the last time someone actually counted back your change correctly?
For me, it was an elderly cashier with impeccable skills and obvious experience. Haven't seen anyone under 50 able to count change without a calculator.
Go to a Quik Trip sometime. Only place I know of that requires employees to count back change. And they’re good as it. Have to be....QTs are busy places.
I'm like some of you old fogies. I give some change to make it easier give me back whole dollars or I do it so I get rid of some pennies and nickels to get quarters back. Less jingling in the pocket that way. Confuses the majority of them.
I graduated from college a couple of decades + back. While there I tutored basic stats. Sometimes individual, but the school also gave me 5 hrs a week to hold drop in sessions. Very first thing in stats classes seemed to "the mean", then the standard deviation. Usually the very first drop in class was folks wanting to know how to do this (yes, some made it to college without knowing how to do "the mean". Some would get it when I said it's also sometimes called "the average".
I'd write a series of 8-10 numbers on the board, tell them to get me the mean. Then, as I was taught years ago I'd do it in my head and write the answer on the board, standing in front so the couldn't see it. They'd all be busy looking up at the numbers, down at their calculators, up for the next number, down at their calculators, then finally they'd get done and I'd step aside and let them see my answer and ask if they got the same. You could see the look of astonishment on some that I didn't need a calculator to do simple math.
Sometimes I'd ask if they could do long division and really throw them for a loop.
I'm training a 15 year old young lady to do retail sales at the farm right now. Really tough stuff, fish is $2.50 a lb, we don't charge for the partials. She made herself a cheat sheet so she didn't have to break out the calculator.... I suppose props for initiative. Although it still throws her for a loop if they want $60 worth.... How much is that? Or when we're moving fish, and the fish are 9 to the pound, and we've moved 3,400 lbs, how many fish is that -- dear in the headlight looks, every time. And when you say 10% less than 34,000, that doesn't get them any closer.
Of course, I fired a guy once that lost 15,000 fingerlings, because he thought 1/4" screens were smaller than the 1/8th" screens I told him to put in........ So, I agree, math matters. But so do fractions.
I think the first requirement for anyone wishing to get into a fish culture program, probably any "farming" type program would be to serve a year in the construction trades learning simple stuff, like how to read a tape measure and cut pipe to length (without forgetting to account for the part that goes into the fitting)
Oh, yes, from the local aquaculture community college program -- you know the one. True story, we used to refer to him as "dumbass". Got to the point he started answering to it. I still don't miss him, and won't hire anyone out of that program again.
Does anyone really expect a McDonald’s cashier to be able to count change?
I don’t. But can’t recall the last time I was there to check.
That’s why registers post the change due, so the children don’t have to think.
If I was running a McDonald’s, the last thing I would want is some kid at the register to “think”. Just give the the change required on the screen so the register balances at the end of the shift.
Does anyone really expect a McDonald’s cashier to be able to count change?
I don’t. But can’t recall the last time I was there to check.
That’s why registers post the change due, so the children don’t have to think.
If I was running a McDonald’s, the last thing I would want is some kid at the register to “think”. Just give the the change required on the screen so the register balances at the end of the shift.
The cashier was unable to calculate the coin money offered as payment.
I've always taken counting change(in my head) for granted.
My biggest fear with the smart phone is that a bunch of (young)people are going to become way too reliant on them for figuring out pretty much anything.
Does anyone really expect a McDonald’s cashier to be able to count change?
I don’t. But can’t recall the last time I was there to check.
That’s why registers post the change due, so the children don’t have to think.
If I was running a McDonald’s, the last thing I would want is some kid at the register to “think”. Just give the the change required on the screen so the register balances at the end of the shift.
The cashier was unable to calculate the coin money offered as payment.
I've always taken counting change(in my head) for granted.
My biggest fear with the smart phone is that a bunch of (young)people are going to become way too reliant on them for figuring out pretty much anything.
They already can't get from point A to point B without the GPS on the dang things.
change has flumoxed people for decades. i used to work in a cafeteria in the 70's and we had grown women who could not figure out what to do when a customer handed them a 10 dollar bill and 3 pennies when the bill was $9.28.
When I was in high school in the mid 60's, they had an advanced math class that was required for graduation unless you took higher classes. It included some algebra and you couldn't graduate without knowing basic math. It's too bad that they apparently don't still do that.
I'm training a 15 year old young lady to do retail sales at the farm right now. Really tough stuff, fish is $2.50 a lb, we don't charge for the partials. She made herself a cheat sheet so she didn't have to break out the calculator.... I suppose props for initiative. Although it still throws her for a loop if they want $60 worth.... How much is that? Or when we're moving fish, and the fish are 9 to the pound, and we've moved 3,400 lbs, how many fish is that -- dear in the headlight looks, every time. And when you say 10% less than 34,000, that doesn't get them any closer.
Never not funny when someone makes fun of folks who can't figure out math, yet they can't figure out spelling.
Originally Posted by Dutch
Of course, I fired a guy once that lost 15,000 fingerlings, because he thought 1/4" screens were smaller than the 1/8th" screens I told him to put in........ So, I agree, math matters. But so do fractions.
I'm training a 15 year old young lady to do retail sales at the farm right now. Really tough stuff, fish is $2.50 a lb, we don't charge for the partials. She made herself a cheat sheet so she didn't have to break out the calculator.... I suppose props for initiative. Although it still throws her for a loop if they want $60 worth.... How much is that? Or when we're moving fish, and the fish are 9 to the pound, and we've moved 3,400 lbs, how many fish is that -- dear in the headlight looks, every time. And when you say 10% less than 34,000, that doesn't get them any closer.
Never not funny when someone makes fun of folks who can't figure out math, yet they can't figure out spelling.
Originally Posted by Dutch
Of course, I fired a guy once that lost 15,000 fingerlings, because he thought 1/4" screens were smaller than the 1/8th" screens I told him to put in........ So, I agree, math matters. But so do fractions.
Yeah, because fractions are different than math.
His spelling is accurate, but the word is *incorrect* for the situation. A normal person would infer what he meant without elitism, which is faulty here specifically for the purpose that the written word is more difficult than spoken, and especially with similar spellings having different meanings in English, plus the fact that auto text correcting applications constantly get it wrong. I can't count how many times 'autocorrect' has created errors grammatically for me when attempting to fix my spelling. The fact that you went out of the way to create an entire post about a 'misspelled' word based on a single character speaks volumes about your lack of conceptualization, and more on your own lack of mental cohesiveness.
Your attempt at sarcasm to delineate that fractions ARE math fails upon your own feet again because of the fact that few 'adults' today understand that large numbers in the denominator actually create a lower quantity, and that is obviously lost on you. Please continue on your self righteous path, as it's humorous to those of us whom aren't as basic as you.
Besides if you were really a super smart person about grammar instead of wannabe C(_)/\/T you wouldn't have used a double negative to start your post... an Engineer should know better than to 'through' stones in a glass house.
BTW: I always got Cs in 'Language Arts' because the curriculum was boring, not because I was 'stoopid'. YMMV
I get some sort of perverse joy out of giving them a five, and then the 8 cents after they rung up the sale and watch their head explode trying to figure out what to do.....
Prick of a thing to do to someone that is on the tail end of a ten hour shift.
Back when my boys were young and riding in the car seat behind me, we did math.
The deer in the field eat 3 apples a day. How many apples do two deer eat in 3 days.
Later on, buck deer eat four apples per day and does eat two.
Later on the math got more complicated, but it always involved deer, apples, days, weeks, months and the occasional random wolf that would kill a deer on the 12th day of the month.
Back when my boys were young and riding in the car seat behind me, we did math.
The deer in the field eat 3 apples a day. How many apples do two deer eat in 3 days.
Later on, buck deer eat four apples per day and does eat two.
Later on the math got more complicated, but it always involved deer, apples, days, weeks, months and the occasional random wolf that would kill a deer on the 12th day of the month.
Both of my boys are pretty good with math.
There are 12 deer in the field.
7 of the deer does.
Buck deer eat four apples per day.
Doe deer eat two apples per day.
A mean wolf kills a doe deer on Tuesday morning before her breakfast.
How many apples do the deer eat in a 7-Day week?
My youngest son was doing this in his head in second grade. It might have taken him 10 minutes to think out the answer, but back then he always got it right.
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He is 15 now and going through "Dad's Driving School".
Changing a flat tire at night without lights in a thunderstorm is part of the Core curriculum.
My oldest son is 25. He has never had an accident. He has never had a ticket. He checks his tire pressure and his tires for even wear every week. To quote my oldest son "Fugh Dad's Driving School."
Years ago, my 2 sons were both pretty good at math in grade school. When the youngest was in maybe the 3d grade, he said something about numbers couldn't be less than 0. I tried to explain the concept of negative numbers using sea level as an example. So what happens? Only a few days later, his teacher said something about 0 being the smallest number. Jr waved his hand and told the teacher all about negative numbers and sea level. She got a shock with that one. I wish I'd been there to hear it. The teacher was a personal friend of my wife. She called and asked where in the world a 3d grader would learn about negative numbers.
I'm training a 15 year old young lady to do retail sales at the farm right now. Really tough stuff, fish is $2.50 a lb, we don't charge for the partials. She made herself a cheat sheet so she didn't have to break out the calculator.... I suppose props for initiative. Although it still throws her for a loop if they want $60 worth.... How much is that? Or when we're moving fish, and the fish are 9 to the pound, and we've moved 3,400 lbs, how many fish is that -- dear in the headlight looks, every time. And when you say 10% less than 34,000, that doesn't get them any closer.
Of course, I fired a guy once that lost 15,000 fingerlings, because he thought 1/4" screens were smaller than the 1/8th" screens I told him to put in........ So, I agree, math matters. But so do fractions.
What percentage of fractions are not math? Express your answer as a ratio.
It always seemed to me that both the cashier and the customer should be smart enough that the cashier could say, "Your bill was $4.71. You gave me a five. Your change is 29 cents, " at which point he/she would hand the customer a quarter and four pennies, and they would both, as I said, be smart enough to see that it was correct. I never could understand this fanatical obsession with having change "counted back".
It always seemed to me that both the cashier and the customer should be smart enough that the cashier could say, "Your bill was $4.71. You gave me a five. Your change is 29 cents, " at which point he/she would hand the customer a quarter and four pennies, and they would both, as I said, be smart enough to see that it was correct. I never could understand this fanatical obsession with having change "counted back".
You weren't around when coins had value. Now days being off a nickel or dime means nothing but at one time, it was valuable money.
It always seemed to me that both the cashier and the customer should be smart enough that the cashier could say, "Your bill was $4.71. You gave me a five. Your change is 29 cents, " at which point he/she would hand the customer a quarter and four pennies, and they would both, as I said, be smart enough to see that it was correct. I never could understand this fanatical obsession with having change "counted back".
You weren't around when coins had value. Now days being off a nickel or dime means nothing but at one time, it was valuable money.
Not true. John used to trade pretty shells for items.
I'm training a 15 year old young lady to do retail sales at the farm right now. Really tough stuff, fish is $2.50 a lb, we don't charge for the partials. She made herself a cheat sheet so she didn't have to break out the calculator.... I suppose props for initiative. Although it still throws her for a loop if they want $60 worth.... How much is that? Or when we're moving fish, and the fish are 9 to the pound, and we've moved 3,400 lbs, how many fish is that -- dear in the headlight looks, every time. And when you say 10% less than 34,000, that doesn't get them any closer.
Never not funny when someone makes fun of folks who can't figure out math, yet they can't figure out spelling.
Originally Posted by Dutch
Of course, I fired a guy once that lost 15,000 fingerlings, because he thought 1/4" screens were smaller than the 1/8th" screens I told him to put in........ So, I agree, math matters. But so do fractions.
Yeah, because fractions are different than math.
His spelling is accurate, but the word is *incorrect* for the situation. A normal person would infer what he meant without elitism, which is faulty here specifically for the purpose that the written word is more difficult than spoken, and especially with similar spellings having different meanings in English, plus the fact that auto text correcting applications constantly get it wrong. I can't count how many times 'autocorrect' has created errors grammatically for me when attempting to fix my spelling. The fact that you went out of the way to create an entire post about a 'misspelled' word based on a single character speaks volumes about your lack of conceptualization, and more on your own lack of mental cohesiveness.
Your attempt at sarcasm to delineate that fractions ARE math fails upon your own feet again because of the fact that few 'adults' today understand that large numbers in the denominator actually create a lower quantity, and that is obviously lost on you. Please continue on your self righteous path, as it's humorous to those of us whom aren't as basic as you.
Besides if you were really a super smart person about grammar instead of wannabe C(_)/\/T you wouldn't have used a double negative to start your post... an Engineer should know better than to 'through' stones in a glass house.
BTW: I always got Cs in 'Language Arts' because the curriculum was boring, not because I was 'stoopid'. YMMV
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It always seemed to me that both the cashier and the customer should be smart enough that the cashier could say, "Your bill was $4.71. You gave me a five. Your change is 29 cents, " at which point he/she would hand the customer a quarter and four pennies, and they would both, as I said, be smart enough to see that it was correct. I never could understand this fanatical obsession with having change "counted back".
You weren't around when coins had value. Now days being off a nickel or dime means nothing but at one time, it was valuable money.
Not true. John used to trade pretty shells for items.
That is correct. Even then, I thought that both parties should be smart enough to look at the smaller shells returned as change and be able to calculate that they represented the amount tendered minus the cost of the product. (For the record, I still feel that it is worth my time and effort to stoop down and pick up a penny.)
during the Depression, my grandparents lost a farm because of those coins. They couldn't raise $200 worth of them to pay the mortgage. All they could do was barter and the banks didn't accept corn or pigs as payment.
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