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Saw a quick news story on this last night on a non main stream channel. Uganda has 45 million people. As a country, they take hydroxychloroquine to prevent malaria. They have implemented no social distancing policies or mask mandates. They have had 45 COVID deaths. That would be like the US having 300 deaths.

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Posted By: Squidge Re: COVID Deaths in Uganda - 09/23/20
What's the average life expectancy in Uganda?

I'm guessing there aren't very many that live into their 70s and 80s in Uganda, that might be part of too.
Posted By: JakeBlues Re: COVID Deaths in Uganda - 09/23/20
Originally Posted by Squidge
What's the average life expectancy in Uganda?

I'm guessing there aren't very many that live into their 70s and 80s in Uganda, that might be part of too.

You're referring to the death rate and that's fair enough. They did mention a massive difference in the infection rate as well. I just don't remember the exact number off the top of my head, but it was something like 1,000 fold lower.
Posted By: ingwe Re: COVID Deaths in Uganda - 09/23/20
Originally Posted by JakeBlues
They have had 45 COVID deaths.
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And frankly, I'd seriously question THAT figure.....
Posted By: TimZ Re: COVID Deaths in Uganda - 09/23/20
Same thing in Ghana, cases and deaths are significantly lower than US, and consensus seems to be it's the fact that everyone takes the malaria medication, which is available over the counter.
Posted By: Jim_Conrad Re: COVID Deaths in Uganda - 09/23/20
Well...how did they figure out the hydrosomething worked in the first place?

Wasn't from studying people in Minneapolis.
Posted By: JakeBlues Re: COVID Deaths in Uganda - 09/23/20
Has anyone actually secured some of that hydroxychloroquine stuff? Can you get it here in the States easily? Depending on the shelf life, it may be worth having in the event of another outbreak of something worse down the road. I'm not advocating people take random drugs. But if a virus broke out that was much worse than what we're seeing now, I would take it.
Posted By: JoeBob Re: COVID Deaths in Uganda - 09/23/20
I know someone who is over the age of 80 who had bypass surgery one month before getting Covid. He was significantly short of breath and pretty sick. Got HCQ and started getting better literally the next day.
Posted By: Birdwatcher Re: COVID Deaths in Uganda - 09/23/20
Originally Posted by Squidge
What's the average life expectancy in Uganda?

I'm guessing there aren't very many that live into their 70s and 80s in Uganda, that might be part of too.


Average life expectancy is 63 according to google. Sounds about right for Sub Saharan Africa, it was 55 yo when I was there.

Life expectancy is the average age at death, throw in a bunch of infant mortality ((ie. 0.2 years, 0.5 years, 0.3 years etc...) along with your 70's, 80's and 90's and it ain't hard to knock ten or fifteen years off of the average.

Make it past age 10 or so and you're pretty much good to go, old people were not in short supply when I was there.
Posted By: Gypsy_Wind Re: COVID Deaths in Uganda - 09/23/20
Originally Posted by JoeBob
I know someone who is over the age of 80 who had bypass surgery one month before getting Covid. He was significantly short of breath and pretty sick. Got HCQ and started getting better literally the next day.


Michigan’s queen has some very different thoughts on this...prioritize placing COVID patients in nursing homes with space to convalesce, then when the elderly have it, allow them no treatment options and to progress to the point of going on a ventilator for a month before dying. And pull the license of any doctor that dares cross the queen! ‘Hate’ doesn’t even begin to describe what I feel for that serpent.

Whitmer’s Letter to Dr’s 03_24_20
Posted By: Squidge Re: COVID Deaths in Uganda - 09/23/20
Another factor might be tropical zones get more sunshine year round, less vitamin D deficiencies, and people spend more time outdoors instead of inside.
Posted By: jaguartx Re: COVID Deaths in Uganda - 09/23/20
Link pls
Posted By: mtnsnake Re: COVID Deaths in Uganda - 09/23/20
Need to question the USA numbers which are lies.
Posted By: JoeBob Re: COVID Deaths in Uganda - 09/23/20
Despite dire predictions, the entirety of sub-Saharan Africa has pretty much been spared.
Posted By: Sitka deer Re: COVID Deaths in Uganda - 09/23/20
US doctors are taking it routinely now.
Posted By: Squidge Re: COVID Deaths in Uganda - 09/23/20
That's fair. Here is what I found on the age structure in Uganda.

0-14 years: 48.21% (male 10,548,913/female 10,304,876)

15-24 years: 20.25% (male 4,236,231/female 4,521,698)

25-54 years: 26.24% (male 5,202,570/female 6,147,304)

55-64 years: 2.91% (male 579,110/female 681,052)

65 years and over: 2.38% (male 442,159/female 589,053) (2020 est.)
Posted By: JoeBob Re: COVID Deaths in Uganda - 09/23/20
HCQ is the standard course of treatment all over the US. It’s one reason deaths are way down. You just can’t talk about it and not every doctor will give it to you. But it works. Don’t let anyone tell you differently.
Posted By: Ejp1234 Re: COVID Deaths in Uganda - 09/23/20
Lots of international travel to that part of the world to form the initial spread.......


Not! That area of Africa is the dirty ripe butthole of the world... no one goes there on purpose!

Too add, the government is as dirty as can be and arrests internet bloggers and media.... you cannot trust anything that comes out of there news wise, its the NK of Africa.
Posted By: 700LH Re: COVID Deaths in Uganda - 09/23/20
Japan's death rate is 12 per million while the USA now is 621, Japan did not shut down.
Somting rong
Sweden is 581 and they did not sit down either
Posted By: deerstalker Re: COVID Deaths in Uganda - 09/23/20
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LMFAO !
Posted By: local_dirt Re: COVID Deaths in Uganda - 09/23/20
Originally Posted by JakeBlues
Has anyone actually secured some of that hydroxychloroquine stuff? Can you get it here in the States easily? Depending on the shelf life, it may be worth having in the event of another outbreak of something worse down the road. I'm not advocating people take random drugs. But if a virus broke out that was much worse than what we're seeing now, I would take it.






Let's take it a step further.


Suppose the (a) government infected people intentionally..
Posted By: slowmover12 Re: COVID Deaths in Uganda - 09/23/20
It does not take a rocket scientist to see that the hydroxy does offer support at least in the early stages for those who are sick. Someone posted the following link in another thread. Read the article, it’s worth your time. There will not be a second wave because we have herd immunity or are near it already.



https://hubpages.com/politics/Pfize...Positives-for-New-Cases-Pandemic-is-Over
Posted By: rickt300 Re: COVID Deaths in Uganda - 09/24/20
Originally Posted by JakeBlues
Has anyone actually secured some of that hydroxychloroquine stuff? Can you get it here in the States easily? Depending on the shelf life, it may be worth having in the event of another outbreak of something worse down the road. I'm not advocating people take random drugs. But if a virus broke out that was much worse than what we're seeing now, I would take it.


Hydroxychloroquine is synthetic quinine. You can get the real deal made from the Cinchona trees bark. I posted this information months ago. I have been taking zinc and Quinine bark pills since this began. No you cannot get Hydroxychloroquine without a prescription. If you have a good doctor and don't live in one of the moron states where governors said they wouldn't let it be used your doctor should prescribe it to you.
Posted By: rickt300 Re: COVID Deaths in Uganda - 09/24/20
https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbt...-to-fight-the-chinese-virus#Post14683311
Posted By: sidepass Re: COVID Deaths in Uganda - 09/24/20
Originally Posted by rickt300
Originally Posted by JakeBlues
Has anyone actually secured some of that hydroxychloroquine stuff? Can you get it here in the States easily? Depending on the shelf life, it may be worth having in the event of another outbreak of something worse down the road. I'm not advocating people take random drugs. But if a virus broke out that was much worse than what we're seeing now, I would take it.


Hydroxychloroquine is synthetic quinine. You can get the real deal made from the Cinchona trees bark. I posted this information months ago. I have been taking zinc and Quinine bark pills since this began. No you cannot get Hydroxychloroquine without a prescription. If you have a good doctor and don't live in one of the moron states where governors said they wouldn't let it be used.

They recommend zinc and a z-pac also for the infected.
Posted By: kwg020 Re: COVID Deaths in Uganda - 09/24/20
Herd immunity ?

Newsweek
Brazilian City Ravaged by Coronavirus Reached Herd Immunity in Just Months, Study Finds


A city in the Brazilian Amazon reached the herd immunity threshold for coronavirus after it swept through with little to no measures in place to stop infection, a study has found.

The city of Manaus, with a population of over two million, was one of the worst hit cities for COVID-19 cases in Brazil. No lockdown was implemented and no major steps were taken to limit the spread of the virus. The first case was reported there in the middle of March. Within two months, hospitals were overwhelmed and the death rate was far above the average for Brazil.

Now, an international team of researchers has assessed the proportion of the population in Manaus that was infected with coronavirus at its peak, and how cases fell in the aftermath, concluding herd immunity had been achieved. This is where such a large proportion of the population has been infected with a disease that it is no longer able to spread at a significant rate.

The preprint study that appears on the website medrxiv.org has not been peer reviewed or published in a scientific journal, meaning it has not been assessed by a panel of experts to assess the validity of the findings. As such, the results should be taken with caution.

According to a Reuters report from May, authorities in Manaus struggled to keep pace with burials. It said the State of Amazonas, in which Manaus is the capital, had a death rate of 19.4 per 100,000, compared to 4.4 for Brazil as a whole.

It is thought poor testing infrastructure means many cases were missed at the peak of the spread. However, recorded cases and deaths in Manaus started falling significantly from around June, prompting questions over whether the city had developed "herd immunity."

Normally, herd immunity is associated with vaccines—if a certain percentage of a population is inoculated against a virus, then vulnerable people who cannot or have not been vaccinated are protected by the "herd." However, throughout the coronavirus pandemic, herd immunity has been discussed as a potential way for regions to recover.

This approach has been called dangerous by World Health Organization officials. However, Manaus and its extreme level of infection potentially now provides an insight into herd immunity and the level of infection required before it is achieved.

In August, researchers noticed the fall in cases in Manaus and suggested herd immunity may have played a role.

Following the release of the Manaus study, Lewis Buss, from the University of São Paulo, said the findings are part of a wider research project looking at how antibody levels in eight different cities in Brazil change over time. "When an antibody test is positive this is evidence that a person has been previously infected with the SARS-CoV-2 virus," he told Newsweek in an email. "Based on the proportion of blood donors that we found to have antibodies, we estimated that over the course of the epidemic in Manaus 66 percent of the population was infected at some point during that time."

The team found transmission of SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, increased quickly between March and April. It then declined between May and September, despite no measures being taken to slow the spread.

They said that while there may have been a change in behavior among the city residents that helped limit transmission, "the unusually high infection rate suggests that herd immunity played a significant role in determining the size of the epidemic."

The researchers also found that seroprevalence fell in July and August. The researchers say it is normal for antibodies to fall following infection and that their study was not designed to look at how long immunity lasts for. However, longer-term monitoring of the situation of Manaus could potentially provide an insight into this. "The significance of this in terms of protective immunity is still an open question," Buss said. "It will be important to continue to monitor the situation in Manaus to understand the issue better."

"Herd immunity is the proportion of the population that must be immune to an infection such that each case generates, on average, less than one new case. It is important to distinguish this from the final proportion of the population to become infected, which will be higher. Our study is an example of a largely unmitigated SARS-CoV-2 epidemic with an exceptionally high attack rate in which herd immunity may have contributed to the drop in new cases and deaths.

"As we emphasize in our preprint, our results should not be extrapolated directly to other contexts. Our results fit into the wider scientific discussion around herd immunity, which has largely relied on mathematical modeling, by providing empirical evidence of the extent of infection in one of the most severely affected areas of the world."

David Goldsmith, who recently wrote a commentary in the Journal of the Royal Society of Medicine about how Sweden—a herd immunity proponent—had failed to reach the level required for protection, said the latest findings show mitigation measures "hamper the rapid development of population herd immunity." But this rapid development, he said, comes at a price.

"From mortality studies we know that the price paid by vulnerable susceptible victims caught up in the COVID-19 maelstrom can be very high, so unrestrained viral infection will indeed burn itself out, but at a terrible cost," he told Newsweek in an email. "Now whether a 'slow fuse' approach to acquire herd immunity—as frequently claimed for Sweden—is a viable strategy remains very unclear, and again, fraught with risk."


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/worl...y-in-just-months-study-finds/ar-BB19lKtT
Posted By: slumlord Re: COVID Deaths in Uganda - 09/24/20
...got my pills ganst mosquito death 😎






Posted By: remington Re: COVID Deaths in Uganda - 09/24/20
^^^^^^ I see what you did there...😀
Posted By: slumlord Re: COVID Deaths in Uganda - 09/24/20
Originally Posted by JakeBlues
Has anyone actually secured some of that hydroxychloroquine stuff? Can you get it here in the States easily? Depending on the shelf life, it may be worth having in the event of another outbreak of something worse down the road. I'm not advocating people take random drugs. But if a virus broke out that was much worse than what we're seeing now, I would take it.

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Posted By: BobBrown Re: COVID Deaths in Uganda - 09/24/20
Originally Posted by JoeBob
I know someone who is over the age of 80 who had bypass surgery one month before getting Covid. He was significantly short of breath and pretty sick. Got HCQ and started getting better literally the next day.

No one got rich off that

#taketheshot
Originally Posted by slumlord
...got my pills ganst mosquito death 😎







They come to snuff the Rooster...but he ain't gonna die.
Posted By: deflave Re: COVID Deaths in Uganda - 09/24/20
The only reason Uganda listed any COVID deaths is because they were promised a free sack of beans if they got in on the bullschit.
Posted By: MadMooner Re: COVID Deaths in Uganda - 09/24/20
It’s fuggin’ Uganda.

Even the crocodiles have AIDS. WGAF.
Posted By: bludog Re: COVID Deaths in Uganda - 09/24/20
Both of my brothers are doctors. One of them sent me a link to aflds.com - it is a very helpful site.
Posted By: slowmover12 Re: COVID Deaths in Uganda - 09/24/20
Get on a prophylactic dosage of hydroxy. America’s Front Line Doctors referenced above Will do a tele consult and arrange a prescription if you need it. I believe there are a large percentage of medical personnel and politicians on it. There has not been an outbreak among them yet, just isolated cases.
Posted By: Cariboujack Re: COVID Deaths in Uganda - 09/25/20
Originally Posted by JakeBlues
Has anyone actually secured some of that hydroxychloroquine stuff? Can you get it here in the States easily? Depending on the shelf life, it may be worth having in the event of another outbreak of something worse down the road. I'm not advocating people take random drugs. But if a virus broke out that was much worse than what we're seeing now, I would take it.


I already talked to my heart doctor and told her that if I get covid I'll call her for hydroxychloroquine. She said, "Good, it works."
Posted By: KFWA Re: COVID Deaths in Uganda - 09/25/20
I read up on Uganda

you wouldn't want to do what they did to prevent the spread

They went into a severe lock down, shutting down their economy , enforced curfew and limited transportation.

Women had trouble getting to hospitals to give birth and there are videos of security forces beating rule breakers.

Their economy went from 5.6% growth to .4

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