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Posted By: Kenneth66 Welded rifle - 09/25/20
The mini 14 thread reminded me of this situation ,
You think it has been patented yet ?
Believe it or not , saw a 98 welded up once . 22-250 , bull barrel from he'll, barrel welded to the reciever , bffscope bases welded to the receiver. We were zeroing for deer season and this guy shows up with this thing .
I said , who the he'll built that ?
Was the biggest barrel in girth and length I have ever seen . Fellow couldn't get two bullets to hit close together to save his azz .
I was concerned about the strength of the receiver being compromised from the heat of the massive welds .
Said something about it but seemed there was more booze than sense in the group , so I left .
Next day the guy who owned the property showed up and tells me the fellow with the 98 had asked him to shoot his 110 in 223 and he told him to go ahead .
Didn't watch him and he heard the guy say the bullet didn't hit the target and the bolt wouldn't open .
The land owner ,G , got pissed and ran him off . So G ask me what I thought , bolt wouldn't budge so I told him to take it to a local Smith.
When he got a call I rode with him to pick it up .
A 110 must be a strong action, Smith said a 30 carbine had been fired in it and some how the bullet swaged down or fragmented and went out the barrel .
He handed G a baggie with a fragmented carbine case in it and I said , that gun is ruined ,
Smith smiled and said he thought the same .
But bore scoped the barrel while he had it off , receiver and bolt checked out , reassembled and test fired it a couple times , functioned fine .
I thought that was Fugging amazing, guess G probably still has it. Somewheres I still have the fragmented case , thought it would make a good conversation piece.
Kenneth
Posted By: Wannabebwana Re: Welded rifle - 09/25/20
I was in a Walmart once and overheard a guy buying ammunition at the gun counter. He was asking the woman behind the counter about it.

Then he turns to me and says “I’ve got a 375 H&H. Will this fire in it?” And held up a box of 375 Winchester.

I said “Probably. Once.”
Posted By: slumlord Re: Welded rifle - 09/25/20
375 winchester ammo at walmart?

Lucky bastid
Posted By: jackmountain Re: Welded rifle - 09/25/20
Had a "non-gun guy" on my crew inherit a contender rifle in .22 hornet. Couldn't figure out why the .22lr he bought for it were disappearing into the chamber. Took 10 minutes to get him to understand just be side it said .22 on the barrel didn't mean it was "A" .22.

Posted By: slumlord Re: Welded rifle - 09/25/20
Originally Posted by jackmountain
Had a "non-gun guy" on my crew inherit a contender rifle in .22 hornet. Couldn't figure out why the .22lr he bought for it were disappearing into the chamber. Took 10 minutes to get him to understand just be side it said .22 on the barrel didn't mean it was "A" .22.

anderson cooper worked for you? 😃
Posted By: Wannabebwana Re: Welded rifle - 09/25/20
Originally Posted by slumlord
375 winchester ammo at walmart?

Lucky bastid


It was 30 years ago. Walmarts here don’t even sell ammo any more, much less guns.
Posted By: Dillonbuck Re: Welded rifle - 09/25/20
Had a post earlier,
Co-worker trying to understand why the 45acp he was firing in his Judge
fell into the cylinder.

He had to point it toward Heaven, then the target to get them to fire.
They still shifted forward, poked them out with a pencil.

Still not sure if he understands the difference between acp and Colt.

This is a guy with 40+ years of hunting and shooting.
Rifles and shotguns, factory loads.
Never got into the minutiae, he is certain the manual said 45acp.

Checked his ammo.

"The box says JHP. Is that ok?"


Ugh!
Posted By: Kenneth66 Re: Welded rifle - 09/25/20
On the way home G said he remembered there was some Remington 30 carbine on the bench with the 223 , but never dawned on him the fellow with the 98 would not know or ask what ammo .
Glad I left , I like beer and a drink as much as anybody , but a group of people drinking heavy while handling firearms ain't for me .
Anything from stupidity to short fuses can happen , Kenneth
Posted By: slumlord Re: Welded rifle - 09/25/20
Originally Posted by Dillonbuck
Had a post earlier,
Co-worker trying to understand why the 45acp he was firing in his Judge
fell into the cylinder.

He had to point it toward Heaven, then the target to get them to fire.
They still shifted forward, poked them out with a pencil.

Still not sure if he understands the difference between acp and Colt.

This is a guy with 40+ years of hunting and shooting.
Rifles and shotguns, factory loads.
Never got into the minutiae, he is certain the manual said 45acp.

Checked his ammo.

"The box says JHP. Is that ok?"


Ugh!
was he a ‘gunwriter’ ?
Posted By: clwg97 Re: Welded rifle - 09/25/20
Originally Posted by Kenneth66
On the way home G said he remembered there was some Remington 30 carbine on the bench with the 223 , but never dawned on him the fellow with the 98 would not know or ask what ammo .
Glad I left , I like beer and a drink as much as anybody , but a group of people drinking heavy while handling firearms ain't for me .
Anything from stupidity to short fuses can happen , Kenneth



This Reminds me of a time a couple guys were sighting in muzzeloaders. Even worse with Beer is mixed with smokepoles. I left and heard later a guy ended up shooting his muzzeloader with the ramrod still in it. Glad I missed that!
Posted By: stuvwxyz Re: Welded rifle - 09/25/20
A do it yourself plumber I knew was getting older and his eyes were fading. He had Savage 99 and Winchester 54 that he arc welded scope bases to. And he cant weld.
Posted By: Kenneth66 Re: Welded rifle - 09/25/20
Originally Posted by clwg97
Originally Posted by Kenneth66
On the way home G said he remembered there was some Remington 30 carbine on the bench with the 223 , but never dawned on him the fellow with the 98 would not know or ask what ammo .
Glad I left , I like beer and a drink as much as anybody , but a group of people drinking heavy while handling firearms ain't for me .
Anything from stupidity to short fuses can happen , Kenneth



This Reminds me of a time a couple guys were sighting in muzzeloaders. Even worse with Beer is mixed with smokepoles. I left and heard later a guy ended up shooting his muzzeloader with the ramrod still in it. Glad I missed that!



Actually experienced that , no booze either .
Shortly after we married I introduced my stepson to muzzle loading . He was in his late twenties so I got him familiar with loading procedure and let him shoot load and shoot a few rds , then a local gun shop called and said my order was in .
So I told him I would be right back , he was in the military so I felt ok about leaving him for a few minutes , gun shop was three miles away .
As I pulled back into the driveway he was setting at the bench looking perplexed , so I asked what's up ?
He said he couldn't figure out what he had done with the ramrod .
So after looking around the bench and vehicles , I asked if he went in the house for anything . Said yes but only to the kitchen , so I went in to see if he had laid it down , possibly absent mindedly carried it in and laid it down .
Nothing , so I walked back to the bench and while pondering , I spotted what had happened .
I laughed and said , I SEE where it went , he said were ? I said you shot it out the barrel ! He got red faced and said I did not !
I laughed and said oh yes you did , look at the bulge in your barrel .
He could have been bought for a penny , then cussed cause he had just bought the gun and opening day was in two days . Then asked well were is the rod ? I laughed and said probally in pieces down range . Glad you didn't get hurt .
We looked and found a short piece with the brass end on it , but nothing else .
I loaned him mine and went and snagged me a optima , good excuse to upgrade from the wolf .
Those wolf's are some good shooters for an economy gun .
Didn't see any real gain , just a new toy .
Kenneth
Posted By: 1911a1 Re: Welded rifle - 09/25/20
I saw a as best as I can remember a 65-67 impala for sale in a used car lot in about 1977 or 8. The intake manifold and the valve covers were welded on.

I guess if the guy who did it got a good bead all away around you wouldn't have to worry about a vacuum leak or leaky valve covers ever again Ha Ha
Posted By: Muffin Re: Welded rifle - 09/25/20
Originally Posted by 1911a1
I saw a as best as I can remember a 65-67 impala for sale in a used car lot in about 1977 or 8. The intake manifold and the valve covers were welded on.

I guess if the guy who did it got a good bead all away around you wouldn't have to worry about a vacuum leak or leaky valve covers ever again Ha Ha


I had a '68 Chevelle back in the day, never could get the valve cover gaskets to quit leaking................
Posted By: 1911a1 Re: Welded rifle - 09/25/20
Originally Posted by Muffin
Originally Posted by 1911a1
I saw a as best as I can remember a 65-67 impala for sale in a used car lot in about 1977 or 8. The intake manifold and the valve covers were welded on.

I guess if the guy who did it got a good bead all away around you wouldn't have to worry about a vacuum leak or leaky valve covers ever again Ha Ha


I had a '68 Chevelle back in the day, never could get the valve cover gaskets to quit leaking................



I'm a Chevy guy, but small block Chevys sure are prone to valve cover leaks. I wonder what is the best size welding rod to use on a Chevy steel valve cover?
Posted By: 257_X_50 Re: Welded rifle - 09/25/20
P. O. Shot a 45 ACP in a 30-06.

Squirted out. Don’t know if it was AI or not
Posted By: IZH27 Re: Welded rifle - 09/25/20
I was given some brass about 12 years ago. A couple boxes of 300 Win Mag and a box of 7mm Mag. The 7mm mag brass looked kinda off having a short neck. My reloading neurons kicked in and I realized that the Side of the neck was shorter than the diameter of the case mouth. Set the 300 and 7 mm side beside and realized that the 7mm had been shot through the 300.

The guy who gave the brass denied it having happened but 20 cases don’t lie. If they even hit the target those 20 rounds had to look like a shotgun pattern.
Posted By: Remington40x Re: Welded rifle - 09/25/20
Worked in a Woolco sporting goods department about 45 years ago. We sold guns, including Marlin 336s. Working the counter one night when this customer came in with a rifle he'd bought a couple of days earlier, pissed to the max. Seems one of my fellow sales clerks had sold him a .35 Remington and a box of .30-30s and neither of them realized that just because it was a 336 doesn't mean it's a .30-30. Sure enough, one round fed, fired and as you might imagine, split the case and released some gasses out of the receiver. We refunded the guy's money.

My boss, who ran the department and was somewhat gun savvy, looked at the rifle. decided it wasn't harmed in any way, ran a patch down the barrel and put it back on the shelf. We also did a bit of remedial education with my fellow sales clerk, who was amazed to find that 336s came in more than one chambering.
Posted By: fester Re: Welded rifle - 09/25/20
Apparently a .30-06 won’t penetrate the chest of a black bear🙄
You need a .300rum
God some people.
Posted By: hanco Re: Welded rifle - 09/25/20
Where can I get one? I have cash!
Posted By: Switch Re: Welded rifle - 09/25/20
Originally Posted by clwg97
Originally Posted by Kenneth66
On the way home G said he remembered there was some Remington 30 carbine on the bench with the 223 , but never dawned on him the fellow with the 98 would not know or ask what ammo .
Glad I left , I like beer and a drink as much as anybody , but a group of people drinking heavy while handling firearms ain't for me .
Anything from stupidity to short fuses can happen , Kenneth



This Reminds me of a time a couple guys were sighting in muzzeloaders. Even worse with Beer is mixed with smokepoles. I left and heard later a guy ended up shooting his muzzeloader with the ramrod still in it. Glad I missed that!

Lots of guys have done this, including me. The rest are liars.
Posted By: Sharpsman Re: Welded rifle - 09/25/20
Originally Posted by Wannabebwana
Originally Posted by slumlord
375 winchester ammo at walmart?

Lucky bastid


It was 30 years ago. Walmarts here don’t even sell ammo any more, much less guns.


Yeah...and the stores entitled Sporting Goods in Yankee Land mean tennis balls, hoops goals, golf balls, and sleds!!
Posted By: jnyork Re: Welded rifle - 09/25/20
Our club opens our range one day in the fall for "Hunters sight in day", we invite the public out , we provide targets, spotting scopes and an instructor for each station. I went out there to help a couple of years but finally quit, it was so goofy and so dangerous even with a sharp-eyed range officer. Guys would walk into the range with a loaded gun, one in the chamber and all. Guys with the wrong ammo. Guys with no ammo. Guys with their scope mounted 90 degrees out of whack. Guys letting their muzzles paint everyone on the firing line. Guys who could hit a paper plate at 100 yards and call it "good enough for deer".
Posted By: Jericho Re: Welded rifle - 09/25/20
I have seen scopes mounted backwards and I have seen guys trying to sight their rifle in from the off hand position
Posted By: lonee Re: Welded rifle - 09/26/20
Originally Posted by Kenneth66
The mini 14 thread reminded me of this situation ,
You think it has been patented yet ?
Believe it or not , saw a 98 welded up once . 22-250 , bull barrel from he'll, barrel welded to the reciever , bffscope bases welded to the receiver. We were zeroing for deer season and this guy shows up with this thing .
I said , who the he'll built that ?
Was the biggest barrel in girth and length I have ever seen . Fellow couldn't get two bullets to hit close together to save his azz .
I was concerned about the strength of the receiver being compromised from the heat of the massive welds .
Said something about it but seemed there was more booze than sense in the group , so I left .
Next day the guy who owned the property showed up and tells me the fellow with the 98 had asked him to shoot his 110 in 223 and he told him to go ahead .
Didn't watch him and he heard the guy say the bullet didn't hit the target and the bolt wouldn't open .
The land owner ,G , got pissed and ran him off . So G ask me what I thought , bolt wouldn't budge so I told him to take it to a local Smith.
When he got a call I rode with him to pick it up .
A 110 must be a strong action, Smith said a 30 carbine had been fired in it and some how the bullet swaged down or fragmented and went out the barrel .
He handed G a baggie with a fragmented carbine case in it and I said , that gun is ruined ,
Smith smiled and said he thought the same .
But bore scoped the barrel while he had it off , receiver and bolt checked out , reassembled and test fired it a couple times , functioned fine .
I thought that was Fugging amazing, guess G probably still has it. Somewheres I still have the fragmented case , thought it would make a good conversation piece.
Kenneth


The 30c is a low pressure rd 60 or so years ago, P O Ackley did some horrendous things trying to blow up some bolt actions. They are amazingly strong.
Posted By: Blackheart Re: Welded rifle - 09/26/20
Hell, we've got a guy right here on this forum who thinks a hack saw, pipe wrench and hammer are about all you need for gunsmithing tools. Course he decorates his rifles with clown colors and kiddie stickers and thinks the creek is a good place to keep them too. The dumb fuuck even has a bunch of fan boys on here.
Posted By: Burleyboy Re: Welded rifle - 09/26/20
I had a friend bought a new rem 700 in 270 and called me and said it didn't shoot right and it hardly kicked at all. He brought it over and pulled it out of the case and the first thing I said was that's not a 270 bore. It was stamped 270 but was a 30 cal bore. Looked like a 30-06 got stamped 270. I told him to keep it as a collectible but he sent it back to Remington.

I ended up building him a 270 with a SF takeoff barrel from an Alaskan Ti. He probably has 100 guns but the one I put together for him is all he's hunted with for the last 10 years or so.

Bb
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