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Posted By: OldHat Light Pollution Map - 09/28/20

This is interesting to look at.

Check out North Korean. Also, you can see the big oil fields because of the gas burn off.

https://www.lightpollutionmap.info/...on=-9998942&layers=B0FFFFFTFFFFFFFFF
Posted By: 22250rem Re: Light Pollution Map - 09/28/20
.. That is an interesting deal. Thanks for posting. I've seen the light pollution thing on the Korean peninsula before. Back when there was a thread here or on another site about the North Korean food shortages. Of course; Mr. Kim Jong Whats-his-name & the rest of the NORK leaders were still fat & happy throughout the entire famine.
Posted By: rockinbbar Re: Light Pollution Map - 09/28/20
Thanks for posting.
Posted By: Ralphie Re: Light Pollution Map - 09/28/20
Happy to be mostly in the dark.
Posted By: Valsdad Re: Light Pollution Map - 09/28/20
Sure glad I don't live east of the 100th meridian in the US of A.

One blueish dot near me, couple of smaller ones in our county. Mostly dark, the way I like it.
Posted By: ironbender Re: Light Pollution Map - 09/28/20
Google up "earth from space at night"

Them is some cool pics!
Posted By: EthanEdwards Re: Light Pollution Map - 09/28/20
Thanks for sharing this.
Posted By: Stormin_Norman Re: Light Pollution Map - 09/28/20
Originally Posted by OldHat

This is interesting to look at.

Check out North Korean. Also, you can see the big oil fields because of the gas burn off.

https://www.lightpollutionmap.info/...on=-9998942&layers=B0FFFFFTFFFFFFFFF


North Dakota really shows up with the gas flairs
Posted By: 7mmbuster Re: Light Pollution Map - 09/28/20
Big Hunter recently visited home this summer from living in Indiana. He had with him his girlfriend, who’s a very nice young lady who grew up in Michigan City.
She was literally amazed by the number of stars you can see on a decent evening here. It’s even better now as it gets cooler and the humidity isn’t as bad.
Just one more reason it doesn’t bother me one bit to have to drive a half hour os so for beer and groceries!
7mm
Posted By: OldHat Re: Light Pollution Map - 09/29/20
Originally Posted by Stormin_Norman
Originally Posted by OldHat

This is interesting to look at.

Check out North Korean. Also, you can see the big oil fields because of the gas burn off.

https://www.lightpollutionmap.info/...on=-9998942&layers=B0FFFFFTFFFFFFFFF


North Dakota really shows up with the gas flairs

Check out the North Slope of AK. Looks like LA up there.
Posted By: 260Remguy Re: Light Pollution Map - 09/29/20
I like to go out to Thedford, NE, between North Platte and Valentine, to star gaze.

There is no artificial light when you're out in the Nebraska National Forest southeast of Thedford.
Posted By: BillyGoatGruff Re: Light Pollution Map - 09/29/20
Originally Posted by 7mmbuster
Big Hunter recently visited home this summer from living in Indiana. He had with him his girlfriend, who’s a very nice young lady who grew up in Michigan City.
She was literally amazed by the number of stars you can see on a decent evening here. It’s even better now as it gets cooler and the humidity isn’t as bad.
Just one more reason it doesn’t bother me one bit to have to drive a half hour os so for beer and groceries!
7mm


Grew up as a kid in Clearfield County. First time I went to Cincinnati to visit my dad I was mesmerized by the fact it never got dark.

Light pollution is a real thing, and it's gross. Like subdivisions.
Posted By: 260Remguy Re: Light Pollution Map - 09/29/20
I'm surprised that there is that much light pollution in Zambia and Zimbabwe.
Posted By: Valsdad Re: Light Pollution Map - 09/29/20
Originally Posted by 260Remguy
I like to go out to Thedford, NE, between North Platte and Valentine, to star gaze.

There is no artificial light when you're out in the Nebraska National Forest southeast of Thedford.


You're in one of those nice dark gray/black areas on the map so you do know what dark skies are. Get much further east of you and those areas get smaller and smaller though.
Posted By: OldHat Re: Light Pollution Map - 09/29/20
Originally Posted by 260Remguy
I'm surprised that there is that much light pollution in Zambia and Zimbabwe.


There is a button on the right that says Hybrid. Clicking that will show you the city giving off the light. If no city it is probably an oil field.
Posted By: Birdwatcher Re: Light Pollution Map - 09/29/20
I frequently walk the dogs before dawn in a park north of town, hike through the dawn and into the sunrise.

Even where you can’t see an electric light, even on a clear night, you can see your keys if you drop them on the trail, cloudy nights it’s brighter.

I tried that further west one time, it was like hiking blind in a cave....
Posted By: mark shubert Re: Light Pollution Map - 09/29/20
Went to the ranch ~ 37 years ago. Got 3 YO daughter out of the car, and she asked "Daddy, why don't we have stars in Albuquerque?"
That was a little hard to explain to a child.
"Twas a beautiful night, though - Milky Way in full glory, cloudless, and moonless!
Posted By: Birdwatcher Re: Light Pollution Map - 09/29/20
One year we hosted a Chinese exchange student from Hangchow where the air is so bad he said he had never seen the stars.

So over New Years I hauled him and two of his buddies off to camp in Big Bend, so many stars they look three dimensional, so many you have problems finding the familiar constellations 😎
Posted By: Jim_Conrad Re: Light Pollution Map - 09/29/20
Originally Posted by Stormin_Norman
Originally Posted by OldHat

This is interesting to look at.

Check out North Korean. Also, you can see the big oil fields because of the gas burn off.

https://www.lightpollutionmap.info/...on=-9998942&layers=B0FFFFFTFFFFFFFFF


North Dakota really shows up with the gas flairs


Yep.
Seems like they are gonna quit that.

I hope so.
Posted By: Stophel Re: Light Pollution Map - 09/29/20
I got light pollution and noise pollution. And this is in "rural" Kentucky. I wish I could be elsewhere.
Posted By: OldHat Re: Light Pollution Map - 09/29/20
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Originally Posted by Stormin_Norman
Originally Posted by OldHat

This is interesting to look at.

Check out North Korean. Also, you can see the big oil fields because of the gas burn off.

https://www.lightpollutionmap.info/...on=-9998942&layers=B0FFFFFTFFFFFFFFF


North Dakota really shows up with the gas flairs


Yep.
Seems like they are gonna quit that.

I hope so.


They have to burn that off don't they? They can't just let it vent can they?
Posted By: Jim_Conrad Re: Light Pollution Map - 09/29/20
No, they cant vent it.

Why not gather it instead?
Posted By: Valsdad Re: Light Pollution Map - 09/29/20
Profit James?

Cost more to gather it and send it wherever than it does to burn it off?

Adding more to the 'pipeline' might just get the price too low for all concerned?

I could almost guarantee, if they could make $0.01 final profit on each 1000cf they are burning off, they'd be shipping it somewhere to burn in someone's furnace or stove.
Posted By: WAM Re: Light Pollution Map - 09/29/20
If you want to see dark skies, sail west from Hawaii about halfway to Japan. Amazing starlight!
Posted By: ironbender Re: Light Pollution Map - 09/29/20
Originally Posted by OldHat
Originally Posted by Stormin_Norman
Originally Posted by OldHat

This is interesting to look at.

Check out North Korean. Also, you can see the big oil fields because of the gas burn off.

https://www.lightpollutionmap.info/...on=-9998942&layers=B0FFFFFTFFFFFFFFF


North Dakota really shows up with the gas flairs

Check out the North Slope of AK. Looks like LA up there.

Same in Cook Inlet.
Posted By: ironbender Re: Light Pollution Map - 09/29/20
Posted By: OldHat Re: Light Pollution Map - 09/29/20
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
No, they cant vent it.

Why not gather it instead?


Some of it is sour correct?

I don't know, but you're right it would seem using it would be a great option. Maybe it's a money thing.
Posted By: grouseman Re: Light Pollution Map - 09/29/20
Why do they call it light 'pollution'? Shouldn't they relabel it to 'evidence of civilization'?
Posted By: Valsdad Re: Light Pollution Map - 09/29/20
Originally Posted by grouseman
Why do they call it light 'pollution'? Shouldn't they relabel it to 'evidence of civilization'?


for some (many?) of us, too much light used indiscriminately is not very "civil".

Honestly, I think one could go around with a BB gun and shoot out a good 50% of the lights burning for no reason in the cities, even in the country, and no one would be the worse off.

I especially dislike those newfangled electric billboards that are so bright they are a distraction. We even have on out here in the dark spaces at a local gas station.
Posted By: Dave_Skinner Re: Light Pollution Map - 09/29/20
The best is to get some elevation on a cold night after a wet front has washed everything. Amazing how bright the sky can be.

By the way, did anyone score the northern lights last night? I missed.
Posted By: ironbender Re: Light Pollution Map - 09/29/20
Originally Posted by Dave_Skinner
The best is to get some elevation on a cold night after a wet front has washed everything. Amazing how bright the sky can be.

By the way, did anyone score the northern lights last night? I missed.

Nothing here. Overcast.
Posted By: Stormin_Norman Re: Light Pollution Map - 09/29/20
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
No, they cant vent it.

Why not gather it instead?



I ask someone in the oil field that same question. I guess natural gas prices are so low it's cheaper to burn it than capture and sell it. They claimed they needed pipelines to make it feasible and even then the volume was so low it might not break even.
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