Wow - we live in crazy times. I wonder why it took these recent transplants so long to figure out that Boston, NYC, Philly, DC, LA, San Fran, Chicago, St. Louis, New Orleans, Seattle, etc. are turd-holes not worth living in... I'm glad that I was smart enough in the mid-1970s at 17 to go to college in the West, and hard working enough to stay. At least, I got to see MT, WY and ID (not CO it was already Californicated) before they turned into modern day gold rushes.

MT_DD_FAN

P.S. Bozeman isn't the only place in the InterMountain West that's radically changed in the last 45 years. Boise is nothing like the small town I saw on a college trip in the fall of 1974!

New homes on the range: Weary city dwellers escape to Montana, creating a property gold rush
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...8-0340-11eb-a2db-417cddf4816a_story.html

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Robert and Valentina Carder move into their new home in Bozeman, Mont., in August. They fled Los Angeles. (Tony Bynum for The Washington Post)

By Lisa Rein Oct. 20, 2020 at 11:03 a.m. MDT
BOZEMAN, Mont. — The four-bedroom contemporary just west of town smelled of fresh paint, flooring, sealant and new beginnings. The Bridger Mountains beckoned against an azure sky off the back deck, and Robert Carder, Montana's newest transplant, couldn't contain himself.
“This is your new home, Conner!” he exclaimed to his 57-pound Australian cattle dog, whose paws were slipping on the wood floor in the living room. Carder spread his arms wide. “How much bigger is this than the picture?” he asked his wife, Valentina, confirming what the couple from Los Angeles already knew.

Their living room didn’t just seem bigger than the photos on Zillow that had led them to make a $559,000 offer after 24 hours in Montana, a place they had never been. The 2,300-square-foot house was twice the size of the two-bedroom condo they sold in Brentwood, Calif., before packing their cars and driving 16 hours northeast, released from the confines of the coronavirus pandemic and the jobs Robert had grown to hate and Valentina had lost.

This was the 19th walk-through their broker, Charlotte Durham, had done for out-of-state clients since Montana’s virus lockdown ended in late April and its real estate market flipped into hyperdrive. Buyers fleeing New York, Los Angeles and other densely populated U.S. cities say they want to leave the coronavirus clusters and social justice unrest behind.

Even as the state’s fierce winter looms, the transplants are pushing house prices to record levels. Some are offering millions of dollars in cash for houses and land they have seen only on the Internet.

“They were like, ‘We’re hoping we love it!’ ” Durham recalled on a late-summer morning as the Carders nodded in agreement.

Montana has remained a mystery to most Americans, even though it boasts some of the most magnificent scenery in the West. But as the pandemic has taken hold across the United States, what once were rural outposts here have turned into boomtowns.

These arrivals are not just tourists visiting Yellowstone National Park or looking for a wilderness vacation. This is a stampede of transplants descending in Porsche Cayennes and Teslas with cash offers. It’s multimillionaires grabbing up luxury ranches to serve as second or third homes. It’s buyers with more modest resources looking for a way out. It’s city dwellers seeking bare land in Montana’s wilderness to serve as insurance policies for America’s uncertain future.

But the virus they are fleeing has been spiking here, too. Along with the neighboring Dakotas, the state has one of the worst per capita outbreaks in the country. Montana’s coronavirus infections have risen precipitously in recent weeks, with a seven-day rolling average of 58 new reported cases per 100,000 residents, the third-highest rate in the United States. The total number of confirmed cases and deaths remains low — less than 24,000 cases and 241 deaths — but nearly 3,800 of those cases and 10 percent of the deaths were reported in the past week.

“We still have way fewer cases than most places and lots of wide open space,” said Durham, 31. “It’s way better here than where people are coming from.”

The new infections have overwhelmed jails and health-care clinics in some communities and led to suspicions that outsiders are bringing the virus with them. But Gov. Steve Bullock (D) and health authorities said last week that out-of-state visitors account for fewer than 5 percent of Montana’s new cases.

“This is coming from us, to us,” said Sarah Stewart, a family physician at St. Vincent’s hospital in Billings, which serves the city and the Eastern Montana region.

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Dog owners visit Oak Springs Park in Bozeman, Mont., with the Bridger Mountains in the background. (Tony Bynum for The Washington Post)

Sportsmen have long revered Montana, casting flies for the world-class trout in its rivers and hunting deer and elk on its snow-capped mountain passes. A century ago, the state’s mines and forests provided jobs to immigrants from Northern Europe. In the 1990s, moviegoers glimpsed its sun-dappled rivers and towering firs in Robert Redford’s adaptation of the Norman Maclean memoir “A River Runs Through It,” and a generation of retirees and environmentalists put down roots to smell the sagebrush for themselves.

Silicon Valley tech workers put southwest Montana on the map a few years ago, as they sought an alternative to ever-pricier towns like Aspen and Vail in Colorado and the Jackson Hole region in Wyoming. They’re taking advantage of the wide open spaces at Big Sky, a ski resort in the midst of a building boom 40 miles south of Bozeman. The transplants work remotely and commute from a growing airport with more hangars for private jets than commercial carriers.

Downtown Bozeman remade itself with craft breweries, gluten-free bakeries and high-end galleries displaying frontier art. Soon a derisive nickname followed: Bozeangeles.

The newest migrants are different. They’re escaping fear, of the pandemic and of the social justice marches they believe are bringing violence to their door. Montana can bring them back in time.

The state is open for business. Interest rates are hovering below 3 percent. The mask police lay low. In a hyper-divided country, Montana’s politics are balanced. Its demographics less so, but that is part of the appeal for many who are coming here.

“We are 98 percent Caucasian,” said Candace Carr Strauss, chief executive officer of the Big Sky Chamber of Commerce. “We haven’t, thankfully, seen a lot of the unrest other places have seen,”

The once-sleepy Big Sky ski resort is quickly acquiring first-tier status. Its private mountain ski club for the ultrarich no longer has an offseason, what with so many members who sought refuge from the pandemic in March and never left. The mountain plans to open its slopes on Nov. 26 — with new coronavirus protocols in place.

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Charlotte Durham, an owner-broker for Big Sky Sotheby’s International Realty, shows clients a listing in Bozeman in the Black Bull community, a private golf course a few miles west of downtown. (Tony Bynum for The Washington Post)

Property gold rush

The property gold rush of 2020 has been dizzying. Deals move too fast for a review of comparable sales. Appraisers and title companies are being outpaced by the demand. Lenders are confronting liquidity problems. And developers can’t keep up with the thirst for new homes, which are preselling as soon as floor plans come to market.

“We’re running around like lunatics,” said Amy Hyde, a mortgage broker in Bozeman. “People have done a month in an RV, and they’re saying they want to move to Montana. The number of out-of-state cars in our town right now is insane.”

Her loan volume has tripled since the spring. When she did not return a buyer’s call for 20 minutes a few weeks ago, the buyer had already found another lender, she said. “People are just frantic and so stressed out.”

The median price of a single-family home around Bozeman vaulted $94,000 from July to August, to $710,000, according to the Gallatin Association of Realtors, which tracks sales in the city of 52,000 and surrounding valley, the state’s fastest-growing region.

Montana’s less-flashy population centers, from the old railroad hub of Billings to the college town of Missoula, also are seeing buying frenzies. Even the long-depressed mining town of Butte and the isolated state capital, Helena — with a main street called Last Chance Gulch and a legislature that meets every other year — have watched prices surge 22 percent to 25 percent above pre-pandemic levels.

“There’s a perception that a lot of things are going to change depending on the election outcome, and here you can protect yourself where you still have gun rights,” said Myrna Rue, a real estate agent in Red Lodge, an old coal-mining town of 2,300 at the edge of the Beartooth Mountains. During one week in mid-August, she was juggling 39 deals.

Tensions on the rise

The state is changing so fast that even those who study rural migration patterns have no idea how long the madness will last — or how many people are even coming. This summer, Bozeman Yellowstone International Airport added five flights a day.

What’s far clearer is that the infusion of wealth is creating tension; Bozeman is now a city of haves and have-nots, and it is breeding resentment.

“It’s changing the whole basis of the state,’’ said Mike Garcia, owner of Northern Lights Trading Co. — River, Lakes and Oceans, an outdoor sports and recreation store. And it’s not for the better, he said. The summer brought its usual share of inexperienced sportsmen, he said, but in larger numbers. “My wife would call me up and go, ‘You need to come talk to these people. They’re clueless.’ ”

The city’s rental market has almost entirely evaporated, devoured by an Airbnb market fetching hundreds of dollars a night.

“Help Wanted” signs hang in windows along Main Street, which is desperate for employees to serve food and drinks, and sell cars and hiking boots — if they can afford to live here. Off-campus housing has dried up at Montana State University, where 16,700 students returned in August to in-person classes.

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Robert and Valentina Carder’s cars, with their California license plates, parked outside their new home in Bozeman. A new house is going up next door. (Tony Bynum for The Washington Post)

The Bozeman City Commission approved a $740,000 grant this month for a fund to coax developers to build affordable housing. The city, worried about its water supply, has imposed a surcharge on homeowners who use too much. It’s asking developers to adorn their subdivisions with fewer plants. The new city manager is devising a plan to allow more density on less land, a smart-growth approach traditionally used by cities trying to preserve open space but an unusual strategy in a place that has long prided itself on having so much of it.

Terry Cunningham, a city commissioner who moved here from New York City 21 years ago, compared Bozeman to Boulder, Colo., which imposed strict building limits long ago.

“They’ve said they won’t grow,” he said. “Our issue is how to accommodate growth in a manner that’s equitable.”

Durham sold $30 million in real estate from June through September. It is a huge boost for business, but a change she laments, too, as she reflects on her lineage as a fifth-generation Montanan from ranching and construction stock.

“In a way, it’s sad to see things selling at such a huge price point,” she said.

She pulled her black Range Rover from the curb of the Carders’ new house, her long platinum hair pulled behind the Bluetooth in her right ear. It was 78 degrees.

“I’ll be really curious to see what all of these buyers think of our winters,” she said.

Durham calls herself a “girly-girl who grew up hunting and fishing,” part rugged Montanan in her brown suede cowboy boots and feather earrings, part the urban sophisticate her clients are looking for, in a white linen pantsuit, makeup and red nail polish.

Her work ethic and marketing skills as a solo boutique broker convinced Sotheby’s to recruit her as an owner-broker in May, as the state was still reopening after its lockdown. The deals have not let up, even with the recent coronavirus surge.

When Robert Carder emailed from Los Angeles in July, Durham said a home in their price range, about $550,000, would be a hot commodity. She discovered The Lakes at Valley West, a subdivision of postage stamp lots on disappearing ranchland. Some houses are wrapped in Home Guard, awaiting completion.

The couple are neither hunters nor anglers. Valentina, 34, born and raised in Russia, said she “loves, loves, LOVES L.A.” But when Santa Monica shut down as the virus ravaged Southern California, she lost her job as an aesthetician. Robert, a consultant who managed a bar and restaurant at night, had always said he would never leave California. But he had grown weary of “making cocktails in jars like it was a conveyor belt” to hand to customers through a takeout window, he said.

In Bozeman, they sense opportunity. “We think she’ll be a superstar in town,” Robert, 52, said of the salon his wife plans to open this week.

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Charlotte Durham inspects Bozeman’s Old River Farm property, which was listed for $10.9 million. A buyer from the Midwest recently moved in. (Tony Bynum for The Washington Post)

Durham’s next clients sensed opportunity, too, and were putting their Nordic-style home on 58 acres outside of town on the market. She parked next to the three-car garage with a Jaguar inside and climbed a handcrafted northern fir staircase to the main level. David Rafes and his wife, Meg, plan to relocate to Hawaii, and today was staging day.

Rafes, 71, made his money in Dallas selling car turbochargers. “I hate to say this,” he said, gazing at the sweeping views of the Gallatin Valley from his cedar deck, “but I’m taking advantage of the problems in the country with the covid thing.”

The stager arrived, excited for the photographic possibilities provided by the 23-foot ceilings and doors made of Alder wood. The home listed at $3.5 million.

It was onto the next appointment. Durham’s phone rang. It was a buyer named Brian from Corona del Mar in Orange County, Calif., inquiring about Holland Lake Lodge, a rustic lakeside resort near Missoula she has listed for $3.5 million.

“Give me the 30-second pitch!” Brian said. “It seems too good to be true.”

Durham described a remote retreat with Montana charm, six guest cabins and a “truly magical waterfall.” The only hitch was that under a Forest Service agreement, the property has to remain open to the public in some capacity.

“I get three calls like that a day,” Durham said. “Everyone is just looking for what’s next, I guess.”

She checked in with a retired business owner from Indiana who had cold-called a few weeks earlier after watching the opening episodes of “Yellowstone,” the Paramount series starring Kevin Costner about a sixth-generation Montana rancher trying to save his land.

The man has never been to Montana, but the swashbuckling image of Costner on a horse, wearing a Stetson and corralling his cattle, mesmerized him. Plus, there’s politics. “If Joe Biden wins, I’m getting out of the Midwest,” he told Durham.

He planned to fly out before the snow came.

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Sunrise over Gallatin County Park, a popular recreation area in northwest Bozeman. (Tony Bynum for The Washington Post)

Durham’s assistant, Meredith Curtin, texted: They had six closings scheduled for the next week. “We really have to go through what their gifts are!!” Curtin wrote. In this market, closing gifts are touches that matter.

Not everyone coming here is buying. Durham found a coveted rental for Jennifer Stoker and her husband, Chad, who arrived in September to start a food delivery business for owners in the private Yellowstone Club at Big Sky.

When protesters marched in Chicago this summer, the couple was living in a two-bedroom apartment on Lake Shore Drive. They saw businesses looted and heard gunshots as they drove home. It scared them.

“Chicago was a great city,” said Jennifer, who worked as private chef for a Yellowstone Club owner who lives outside Chicago. “But the state of it now makes me feel differently. I just don’t feel safe.” Her husband gave up his job as a golf course manager to help run the new food business. He had never been to Montana.

“We need a less stressful life,” Jennifer said. “And it’s pristine and breathtaking.”

Friday afternoon had arrived, and Durham swung her car into the Sotheby’s parking lot. She opened her laptop for status checks before the weekend. She was waiting on an electronic signature from a buyer who was closing on an estate listed for $10.9 million after just one visit to Montana.

“It seems crazy that someone could DocuSign for a purchase this big, right?” said Curtin, as she and Durham went over their to-do list at the office.

The inspection on another property had turned up a leak in the hot tub. There was an open house for brokers the following week. They would need to order a charcuterie board from Fink’s.

Finally, there were the gifts. It was an easy call. A bottle of Brut and a $500 gift certificate for each buyer to the Sage Lodge, a resort in the Paradise Valley on the route to Yellowstone. Curtin added them to her list.

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Robert and Valentina Carder on the back porch of their new home with their dog, Connor, looking at the lake and mountains in the distance. (Tony Bynum for The Washington Post)

I guess its wilder than hell in Redlodge right now.

It will be 10 below on Saturday, hoping all the fair weather transplants enjoy their first winter!

Just another nail in the coffin.

The Borg are gonna assimilate you guys.
Given time.....
Big money buys influence.
Especially in politics.

Well crap

Bunch of azzhats escaping what they voted for ruining the standard of living within the inter-mountain west. Western Montana and North Idaho have an incredible flux of out of staters in the area at the moment looking at real estate. It amazing the number of out of state plates I see from all over the country.

I've seen pics of some of you Montanans.

Y'all need another "aesthetician" there.



At least Valentina is from Russia, she likely knows what cold is. Maybe she'll not get chased off.

First they fugged up Oregon and Washington, now they are headed for Idaho and Montana.

🤮

...and there goes Montana.

I have no idea what that is. Unsurprisingly no doubt.....

We fuucked.

I know how y’all feel. They came here in droves for jobs and jacked up real estate to levels you can’t imagine.

I don’t want to rain on another Ca bash thread, but they ain’t Californians...they’re just passing thru and now headed your way

They put you to sleep..


Right?

I thought that once we sold our business we would have been moved to the Bitterroot Valley sometime this last spring. Unfortunately the wife was offered a job at a non profit free medical clinic and since working for a non profit has always been one of her dreams, I didn't sell even though I had the house ready to go. Unfortunately it looks like I am too late and prices will be out of my reach and so many left leaning people are flooding the state. At least one of us gets to live their dream All I can hope for is some of those southern California house cats will get a rude awakening once winter rolls around and maybe stuff will go back on the market next year.

I found out when living in Boulder City near Lost Wages 15 years ago.

There are lots of them there. Billboards and flyers everywhere.

They are for folks concerned with personal "aesthetics".........................Not folks like me.

They would probably direct me in which style to trim my beard, like that picture someone put up, based upon my facial structure.

Fancy name for a beauty consultant, make up, type person I'm pretty sure.

Being from the Motherland, I think she can make it.

Let us know when the houses in Anaconda get over $100K

Laughing.

With this information out there, how can anyone not want to do everything they can to support a healthy grizzly population? We live a couple hours from Kalispell. Kalispell has probably,at least, tripled in the last twenty years. Not great times for longtime residents. GD

The people coming are the ones that fugged up caliotoe not the newer people that are staying

Same deal as Colorado.

A great conservative state even just 20 years ago. Libs get fed up with the cess pool they the created, so move here. Create similar cess pools (Boulder, Denver).

Now we are fugged. Any of you who think are safe.... urban flight is real, and your state is next.

Just look at whitefish and Kalispell.

Same going on in north Idaho. I witnessed a couple of nearby sales that flat stunned me. Seeing similar here in the Texas hill country.

It could be a bad era for a lot of rural areas.

Of course a lot of what drives people to places like Montana is the beauty. And it is a bit of a myth that the winters keep people out. Areas like Kalispell, Bozeman, and Missoula aren't nearly as rough as living in Petroleum County and there is enough amenities and infrastructure to keep even the biggest of vaginas quite happy.

I think one of the main catalysts to libtards moving into places that were historically viewed as remote is the fact that so many people work remotely. The lack of jobs is the main reason outsiders have always had to stay outside, but if you can work for the same company and go fly fishing like Robert Redford every morning, lots will opt to do so.

And they will bring their stupidity with them.

The fellas on here that resent the invasion from urban areas, California mostly, are right to resent the emigration. For every California family that reflects the traditional American values...there are 20 more families emigrating that don't. They have packed their liberal values along with the rest of their baggage. What most of you don't understand, is why they are leaving in droves. It's a deep dark taboo subject that will NEVER be admitted by the emigrants. They are not leaving because state government is screwed up...It's because African and Latino's are the majority now, in their home state, and everything that implies boils down to personal safety in a state destined to become 3rd world, it's inevitable. About 4 or 5 paragraphs down, in the original post, some babe, Candace Carr Strauss, "we are 98% Caucasian". And that, my friends, is the punchline. As went the blueprint of Colorado, so goes the mountain states, one domino at a time. Sad.

This is going on in many rural areas. We have a steady influx that comes to our area from St. Louis. Some of them are nice people but even at that they bring the city with them. We have allot of county roads that are gravel and they hate that. They want them paved. That'll make our taxes go up. They don't care. When you get several of them together on the weekends there goes the peace and quiet. The ambitious ones want to get involved in politics. They really mess things up then as most all of them are liberal.

These threads are always entertaining.

Pilgrims complaining about pilgrims.

Import enough dindu’s and it’ll go down the schitter in a hurry.

They're a cancer that is spreading with increasing speed. Sad...

Fools Gold, I say.

If and when the Section 230 restrictions or break-ups hit, look for downsizing or redistribution of human resources.

Resistance from the now comfie oatmeal and blueberries on the keyboard Zoom'ers will be epic.

Who asked about there being less hunters, but hunting land being more crowded with hunters?

Maybe Alaska will be the next frontier for many. I feel sorry for some of you that have to live with the liberal invasion. We are seeing this in Northern Mi also. I no longer live there but my boys do. The youngest said vacation homes are non existent. Many are not selling and moving to them or buying them up as fast as they go on the market.

Makes me want to follow up on some musselshell river frontage land I saw posted a couple weeks ago. 100 some acres. Wasn't too terribly expensive.

Yep. It going to get far worse the coming year IMO.
After Covid many of the big tech firms are going nearly 100% remote.

I think Seattle real estate is gonna cool off. Who wants to live with homeless folks and drug addicts schitting in your yard when you can sell out and buy a sweet condo in Bozeman?

Montana is headed toward Colorado.

Upper middle class white families don't have to deal with blacks and latinos.

I just got back from looking at NE Washington farm country. Whatcom county. Property is through the roof and not much on the market. The liberals sure poured out of Bellingham on the weekend.

FIBs are running away from Chitcago.I have had three real Estate Companies call and ask if I wanted to sell at a big price.I told them to fugg off.

The biggest proponents of diversity are white people who live in gated communities.

California is gonna be a nice place to live here in another decade or so.

Prices are through the roof everywhere. Money has been damn near free for a decade +. Folks pouring out of the west coast cities with pockets full of cash and fat pensions.

WA, ID, CO, MT, UT, all have seen crazy real estate prices the last 5-10 years near any of their major cities.

Man, you nailed that one square on the head.

I was born in Wyoming in 1940. My father born in Wyoming in 1899, my mother in 1906. My grandparents were all born in Utah in the 1860's. Spare me the "pilgrim" commentary.. .

I'm just glad Wyoming is such a crappy place to live or we would be over run too.

Fershure.

And when interest rates are this low sellers can really put the squeeze on.

Because they'll get it.

You make sure to keep it that way you hear!

I guess it's nothing compare to Bozeman, but it's been nuts in Kalispell. Bozeman is almost 2x the price of flathead property. We have been holding a strong Republican majority in the flathead, but we will see if it lasts.

Is it bad over there?

I went to Missoula a while ago for a couple hours.


Trump signs out numbered Biden signs 10 to 1.

MT DD FAN: Yeah the most recent tax appraisal on our paid for home here in SW Montana was stunning - twice what we paid for it - and that assessment was over a year ago.
Who knows what its "worth" now?
The valuation makes no never mind to me my VarmintChildren and VarmintGrandChildren will be enjoying that someday.
Yep "times they are a changin"!
Thanks for nothin you liberal, corksuckin, guilt ridden kalifornicationkopians!
GO TRUMP
MAGA
Hold into the wind
VarmintGuy

And the fuggin WA folks that have flooded MT,,ohh wait,,,,,,

Sis lives just north of Whitefish and when I saw even the rental prices out there, I thought that they had moved a decimal to the right by mistake. Those sure are’t Midwest prices.

I live in Northern Michigan (near Mackinaw City) and the invasion is real. Traffic from tourism usually falls off noticeably in late August, but this year there are still a lot of second home owners from downstate still hanging around. You can tell them by all their Biden signs.

Missoula is by very liberal. Flathead county is very conservative. I’m surprised you would see a lot of Trump signs in Missoula, that’s Bernie country.

jnyork-
I don't know where you live in WY but have you seen what's happening to Sheridan lately? I have a good friend that I shoot P-dogs with that lives there, and I've been there many times over the last 40+ years. It's nothing like the Sheridan I first visited in 1974 - not even close. Rich folks have been summering with their polo ponies in Sheridan for years but now the town is booming with other types of transplants. And if the changes in Sheridan aren't enough to convince you, go check out Cody, Powell and many other towns in the western third of the Cowboy state.

Maybe not. But, it sounds like her husband will.

Dumbass stick a fork in your own eye liberal schiteating pilgrims do not equal pilgrims.

Got it now, numbnuts?

Not to mention Asian and Pacific Islanders..

Whites are close to official minority status in California already. This mass exodus will bring it sooner.

Read an article about Whitefish Montana this morning.

Really talking up this High School teacher on the city council.

He is demanding everyone wear a mask and that businesses shut down.

Wonder where he is from?

Whitefish is a weird tourist ski town. Lots of out of state money and expensive vacation homes. Locals like to hold Trump rallies there to trigger them. Luckily not enough votes in that town to move the needle in the county.

Not sure but they shut all the schools in Havre down again.

I can tell you where all those fugk tards are from.

Thankfully the fine folks of the Swan Valley love their country and love Trump, but I'm sure a lib or two is sneaking in here and there.

Yeah......Montanner.

Predominantly blue county as you know.

And it ain't due to the rez.

Yep. They were too busy making money and having a good time to pay attention and work on the community.

California for the most part has no "community" in the urban/suburban areas. The homes are self enclosed worlds where you do not meet your neighbor in order to avoid confrontation and therefore reprisal.

These jabronis are worried about indians, blacks and gays.

Its your white dumbass neighbor that's the problem.

But not to the exclusion..........

The guy's from back east, as is the mayor and others on the board. They liken themselves' as the only "intelligent" people in the room and must protect us from ourselves, like socprogs the world over. They've screwed the pooch more than a few times through the years, but the local socialists keep voting them in. They tried to put a curfew on protests downtown as soon as the Trump supporters showed up but when BS was called on it they backed off realizing what hypocrites they were and didn't want the back lash ie. the rest of the county outnumbering them (and a lot of money coming into city coffers is provided by rich white guys who also vote for Trump.


Read this article(same ?) https://ca.news.yahoo.com/coronavirus-bears-down-small-montana-100030809.html pretty entertaining mentioning the Montana Human Rights Network as some kind of credible source..who in reality are nothing more than the SPLC west. Bunch of 1960's weather underground loser wanna be's.

Tennessee is getting it from Illinois and Florida, the former due to taxes, the later over storms, other thing is Mennonites and Amish bringing in big money to buy up farm ground. I have been offered way more than my land is worth, but I keep it to hunt on, it is a Century Farm, been in my family a while.

Nashville and Memphrica have already been Californicated, thought the rural country here still has the General Assembly a Super Majority of Republicans (RINOs mostly, 8 years of Haslam raised the cost of State government $10 billion. New guy Lee is not much better) but how long that last with the influx is a guess.

We have even with the Republicans the most timid legislature when it comes to gun laws, ever State that touches us except Georgia has open carry without a permit, our gubment vig is called a permit, but really is a “defense against prosecution” of TCA 39-17-1307 which says it is an “offense” to carry a firearm with then intent to go armed.

I can just imagine what the influx of libs will bring about…

I would always believe a social studies teacher of a doctor, sheesh. The problem with liberals is they have no idea how fuggin stupid they are. Now we have narc line the state setup to report violations https://dphhs.mt.gov/publichealth/FCSS/ConsumerComplaintForm


I self reported myself for not wearing a mask while masterbaiting during a city council zoom meeting, pulling a toobin

It's easy to say that the people in the city you'll never be in are the root cause of a problem.

It's difficult to tell your brother-in-law he's a cock sucker and no longer welcome at deer camp.

Give it 20 years, Dakotans will be complaining about the yuppies from Montana ruining their states.

Been telling board members here for ten years, it' isn't just a CA problem, we were overrun in the same way, only they came for jobs, not housing. Its a country wide problem of more liberals being produced in the school system than conservatives. Every state has it's tumor, ours was Frisco, then Austin, then Boulder, Portland, Seattle

I'd venture to guess that even in MT, the far vast majority of educators are liberal democrats.

I know I resented it when liberals migrated and took over Santa Cruz CA, I grew up in a conservative Italian, fishing and tourism community. Our downfall begin with the building of UCSC, and the hundreds of New York liberals who came to indoctrinate America's college kids. Then thousands from all over the country who came to school in the UC system, and then fell in love with CA and stayed.


This country has been moving left for the last forty years. Sure we get out Reagan's and our Trumps, but those only seem to be speed bumps on the march to liberal socialism.
Slowly but surely, it is WE who no longer represent American values.

Republicans nearly never walk back the destructive and unconstitutional laws and policies of Democrats, even when they control all branches of government.

My wife used to be a liberal.



We would get into some major arguments and wouldn't talk for a day or two.

Not healthy.


Fast forward to the last couple years.


It wasn't anything I said but she finally saw the light. Watches Tucker every night(I had rarely watched him previous) and has become woke to the true lameness that is commiedom.


We filled out our absentee ballots yesterday morning and she went straight red. I didn't say a word, better vote for Trump or else....lol Wasn't like that at all.

This coming from a young women who thought the world was coming to an end when Trump won in 2016.


I had about given up on ever seeing eye to eye on politics and thought that our differing views would someday cause us to divorce but something in her brain finally sparked.

Sam was all "What it gonna be? THIS? Or Biden?"

There's only one answer to that question.

If Trump wins, he needs the Congress. If he gets the congress, he MUST go after education and Big Tech. Liberals like to call Trump rallies "super spreader" events, well when it comes to liberalism, academia is the super spreader.

The force is strong.

Weird name for your cock, but hey if it works!

Uhhhh...

Trump can't fix five decades of nonsense in eight years.

I disagree, If he gets the congress..


1. Pass legislation on all your executive orders so the next democrat can't just reverse them.
2. Get school choice done and institute a national testing and rating of all schools. Let the liberal public schools defend their scores against conservative private schools.
3, Go after big tech, break up their monopolies.
4, Nominate another 300 conservative justices.
5. Pass reciprocity.
6. Pass National voter laws for NATIONAL election standards, including voter ID and no harvested votes counted in the NATIONAL election.
9. Pass FED law against cities and states that refuse to cooperate with federal immigration enforcement. no exec orders, LAWS!


Trump has the balls, question is if republicans in congress will also grow a set.

Funny you mention that, she was just gently massaging my scrotum.



On a serious note.



Covid is all over this town/school system and they ain't shutting chit down.

At least those nincompoops moved to Bozone sight unseen, and not here. It will be interesting to know how long they last.

I just helped my cousins clean out my Dad's house, it's a nice one, sturdy, 1969 built bombproof in Northridge overlooking the junior high and many wonderful winter sunsets over the years. Because I'm step and "not really family", the house and most contents went to them. Which is okay with me, as their dad died young and mom died poor. I already have collected a good "legacy" from my Mom and am not wasting it.

But I just wonder which Commies will buy it and replace Dad's always-conservative vote. And no, he died four days before the ballots were mailed.

I hate the People's Republic of China -- COVID has been a nuclear strike on what is most important in America.