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The Neocons who stole the election and who control Biden did so for one primary purpose,.....to expand America's military excursions in the Middle East.

With half the people in America viewing Biden's Presidency as illegitimate, will the military be able to draw enough volunteers to man the Neocon's adventures, or will they have to reinstate the draft?
Half this country isn't worth dying for, between the commie democrats and the undermining liberaltarians; I think they should send their kids and leave the rest of us alone.
When the economy sinks, there will be lines at the recruiting offices.
Originally Posted by watch4bear
Half this country isn't worth dying for, between the commie democrats and the undermining liberaltarians; I think they should send their kids and leave the rest of us alone.

How is killing brown people in foreign countries going to somehow benefit the half that is "worth dying for"?
Originally Posted by MontanaMarine
When the economy sinks, there will be lines at the recruiting offices.


Yes.
Bob
I'm sure a lot of people agree with you.

So will the Neocons bring back conscription?

They've already put draft cards in the wallets of every young man of conscription age.
Originally Posted by Bristoe
The Neocons who stole the election and who control Biden did so for one primary purpose,.....to expand America's military excursions in the Middle East.

With half the people in America viewing Biden's Presidency as illegitimate, will the military be able to draw enough volunteers to man the Neocon's adventures, or will they have to reinstate the draft?


If this is similar to an Obama administration which it will be. Their will be another drawdown. We went from a 530k man Army back to the Clinton era numbers of 470k under Obama. When Trump got in they grew the Army back to 520-530k. With all that the U.S Army is a constant machine that has to be fed. Even with a reduction, you still have Soldiers etsing,retiring etc.. Too answer your question there will be no need for any draft.
Originally Posted by Bristoe
The Neocons who stole the election and who control Biden did so for one primary purpose,.....to expand America's military excursions in the Middle East.


What leads you to that conclusion? I expect the opposite ... defunding the military, not just the police. I think of necessity, with defunding happening, we will have to be less involved in foreign conflict, not more involved. Where am I wrong?

Tom
Thats all this scum knows how to do, send someone else's kid to get killed for no good reason. Let the libtards send their kids, they can put Daisys in the muzzle end of their AR's.
The democrats are cheating, lying, and thieving anti-American liberal socialist communist marxist politicians which need to be ostracized ASAP. Democrats destroyed the election then they forfeit all seats. Biden did not win.
Originally Posted by T_O_M
Originally Posted by Bristoe
The Neocons who stole the election and who control Biden did so for one primary purpose,.....to expand America's military excursions in the Middle East.


What leads you to that conclusion? I expect the opposite ... defunding the military, not just the police. I think of necessity, with defunding happening, we will have to be less involved in foreign conflict, not more involved. Where am I wrong?

Tom


Neocons control Biden. Neocons are all about war.
Originally Posted by T_O_M
Originally Posted by Bristoe
The Neocons who stole the election and who control Biden did so for one primary purpose,.....to expand America's military excursions in the Middle East.


What leads you to that conclusion? I expect the opposite ... defunding the military, not just the police. I think of necessity, with defunding happening, we will have to be less involved in foreign conflict, not more involved. Where am I wrong?

Tom



Uh ok....
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How is killing brown people in foreign countries going to somehow benefit the half that is "worth dying for"?



Good point. Also; a conquering army may actually help breed up half our country.
Good article from 2017.

https://theintercept.com/2017/07/17...ilitate-and-unify-with-bush-era-neocons/
Originally Posted by HuntnShoot
Originally Posted by watch4bear
Half this country isn't worth dying for, between the commie democrats and the undermining liberaltarians; I think they should send their kids and leave the rest of us alone.

How is killing brown people in foreign countries going to somehow benefit the half that is "worth dying for"?

dont forget the wars in Europe that went on for 100's of years our civil war WWI and WWII where whites killed each other to the tune of 80 million
killing people overseas benefits israel
US govt waging cold war on white people so why would a white kid want to "fight for our country"
Originally Posted by watch4bear
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How is killing brown people in foreign countries going to somehow benefit the half that is "worth dying for"?



Good point. Also; a conquering army may actually help breed up half our country.



Which "conquering army"? Does the US have any risk from an invading army that trumps the tens of millions of foreigners that currently live on US soil and vote Democrat in the elections? How about the threat posed by brainwashed Americans who are bent now on turning the US into a Bernie-led gulag factory, complete with mass graves and mass starvation?

No, the threats to America and the Constitution have always and only ever been right here. What fuucking Iranian can take away my rights or my property?
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Which "conquering army"? Does the US have any risk from an invading army that trumps the tens of millions of foreigners that currently live on US soil and vote Democrat in the elections? How about the threat posed by brainwashed Americans who are bent now on turning the US into a Bernie-led gulag factory, complete with mass graves and mass starvation?

No, the threats to America and the Constitution have always and only ever been right here. What fuucking Iranian can take away my rights or my property?



lol...lol
Neocons, progressives, jews, the illuminati, yankees, women, jigroes!
So much fear, so little timegrin

We are doomed, might as well just give up and get stoned.



mike r
Originally Posted by MontanaMarine
When the economy sinks, there will be lines at the recruiting offices.


That's been true for a while. But America has been involved in the Middle East conflict for 2 decades. Trump tried to dial it down a bit with mixed success,...and people will be aware of what's going on when Biden's Neocons start stirring it up again.

I don't think young men will be very anxious to join the military when they know that they're going to get deployed to pull triggers.
Originally Posted by HuntnShoot
Originally Posted by watch4bear
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How is killing brown people in foreign countries going to somehow benefit the half that is "worth dying for"?



Good point. Also; a conquering army may actually help breed up half our country.



Which "conquering army"? Does the US have any risk from an invading army that trumps the tens of millions of foreigners that currently live on US soil and vote Democrat in the elections? How about the threat posed by brainwashed Americans who are bent now on turning the US into a Bernie-led gulag factory, complete with mass graves and mass starvation?

No, the threats to America and the Constitution have always and only ever been right here. What fuucking Iranian can take away my rights or my property?

for 35 years I have been saying the real enemy is in the US. one guy told me I killed communists in vietnam. I said yea a starving rice farmer fighting off an invasion was a communist. they trick the men to turn their attention to a manufactured enemy overseas so they can continue to destroy us
“The means of defence against foreign danger have been always the instruments of tyranny at home. Among the Romans it was a standing maxim to excite a war, whenever a revolt was apprehended. Throughout all Europe, the armies kept up under the pretext of defending, have enslaved the people.”
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Who in their right mind would be willing to send their grandsons to a military under the control of Biden. Let the LGBTQXYZ's that Joe wants...to fill the ranks.
Originally Posted by Stophel
“The means of defence against foreign danger have been always the instruments of tyranny at home. Among the Romans it was a standing maxim to excite a war, whenever a revolt was apprehended. Throughout all Europe, the armies kept up under the pretext of defending, have enslaved the people.”

human nature never changed for 1000's of years
Originally Posted by flintlocke
Who in their right mind would be willing to send their grandsons to a military under the control of Biden. Let the LGBTQXYZ's that Joe wants...to fill the ranks.



here,here
Originally Posted by Stophel
“The means of defence against foreign danger have been always the instruments of tyranny at home. Among the Romans it was a standing maxim to excite a war, whenever a revolt was apprehended. Throughout all Europe, the armies kept up under the pretext of defending, have enslaved the people.”


That's true. But today's reason for America's wars in the Middle East is to expand Israel's influence.
Originally Posted by lvmiker
Neocons, progressives, jews, the illuminati, yankees, women, jigroes!
So much fear, so little timegrin

We are doomed, might as well just give up and get stoned.



mike r

You took an oath to the Constitution, Mike?

Good. I'm going to need you to act on that. My rights have been eroded since the day I was born. Get on it.
Just as I thought; you want someone else to do the fighting for you grin grin grin grin grin
Originally Posted by Bristoe
Originally Posted by Stophel
“The means of defence against foreign danger have been always the instruments of tyranny at home. Among the Romans it was a standing maxim to excite a war, whenever a revolt was apprehended. Throughout all Europe, the armies kept up under the pretext of defending, have enslaved the people.”


That's true. But today's reason for America's wars in the Middle East is to expand Israel's influence.

satanyahu got pissed cause not many US kids were getting killed recently for israel so he ordered the US to train and fund ISIS (thru mc cain) to destroy Syria . the reason for the war on Armenia is to get an airbase for israel. israel arming the muslims and they have already started to set up an airbase nears Irans border
I'm still surprised the us Government didn't go (directly) attacking Syria. The war drums were beating pretty loudly for it not too long ago. Syria and Assad are the closest things there are to good guys in the whole region.
Originally Posted by watch4bear
Just as I thought; you want someone else to do the fighting for you grin grin grin grin grin

WTF? I PAID and PAY for those worthless fuucks who take the oath and then abandon it. I now have no right to ask them to fulfill their oath, and "I want someone to fight my battles for me?"

I didn't ask anyone to take that oath to the Constitution, and nobody asks me if I want to pay for all those oath-takers. Since I HAVE to pay, I ought to be able to make a [bleep] request.

How many arguments have you and I gotten into over the NRA? Where I tell you that the NRA is peddling fear to you so that they can collect your money and trade away your rights? What exactly was YOUR position in those arguments? That YOU are responsible for your rights?

You're a hypocrite, trying to be cute.
Another "thought" (loosely defined)...since Hunter Biden has distinguished himself in prior Naval service, he will probably be appointed as Chairman Joint Chiefs of Staff...and there will be a huge increase in the number of people who would like to serve under a man of his qualifications.
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I PAID and PAY for those worthless fuucks



Yes, but you are very important.
Without war you got no experienced veterans
without experienced veterans what does ones
military become?





Clinton sent my son to Kosovo to stop Serbs from killing Muslims. Before we lost him he looked at me and said, "The Muslims hate us. Did I do the right thing?"
Originally Posted by Stophel
I'm still surprised the us Government didn't go (directly) attacking Syria. The war drums were beating pretty loudly for it not too long ago. Syria and Assad are the closest things there are to good guys in the whole region.

but Assad is in the way for israel expansion promised to them by their devil god in the OT
Originally Posted by SPQR70AD
Originally Posted by Stophel
I'm still surprised the us Government didn't go (directly) attacking Syria. The war drums were beating pretty loudly for it not too long ago. Syria and Assad are the closest things there are to good guys in the whole region.

but Assad is in the way for israel expansion promised to them by their devil god in the OT


That's why I'm surprised he wasn't taken out.... yet.
Originally Posted by Dave_in_WV
Clinton sent my son to Kosovo to stop Serbs from killing Muslims. Before we lost him he looked at me and said, "The Muslims hate us. Did I do the right thing?"


Not once have I said that... I view it we took the fight to them and kept them out of our country blowing chit up killing innocent Americans. Unfortunately with that comes a price, high suicide rates.. Trump cares, genuinely cares and tried fixing the VA. Under Obama watch the VA was god awful and Obama could give two chits about veterans. He was more worried about Treyvon Martin looking like his son if he had a son..
I will ad Majority of these youngster who joins ie the trigger puller/killers joined to fight and deploy.. I tell them be careful what you ask for. I said we all joined to deploy see a little combat. I said oh we got that and more in Iraq. It was so bad not enough BCT’s to go around they deployed 2d brigade out of Korea to Iraq. When that happened majority of those troops were already gone from family for 7 months. Then to Iraq for 15 months so 22 months gone from normalcy. They moved they bde to Carson after that deployment they said those Soldiers were ph ucking bat chit crazy..
My Grandson joined the marines when trump came into office.His enlistment is up In January.He said if Slo joe is prez ,he will not re-up.
Originally Posted by mtnsnake
The democrats are cheating, lying, and thieving anti-American liberal socialist communist marxist politicians which need to be ostracized ASAP. Democrats destroyed the election then they forfeit all seats. Biden did not win.





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Trump 2020

KAGS
Originally Posted by HuntnShoot
Originally Posted by lvmiker
Neocons, progressives, jews, the illuminati, yankees, women, jigroes!
So much fear, so little timegrin

We are doomed, might as well just give up and get stoned.



mike r

You took an oath to the Constitution, Mike?

Good. I'm going to need you to act on that. My rights have been eroded since the day I was born. Get on it.



I did take the oath, several times. I served 27 months in combat killing real commies. I than spent 14 years serving in the cold war, then another 5 years training post 9/11 warriors.

You and SPecialQueeR need to describe your service before flapping your labia about what others have done and how they did it. Have you ever actually put it on the line for any of your grievously eroded rights?

Maybe it it is time for you guys to act rather than moan on the net.


mike r
Originally Posted by lvmiker
Originally Posted by HuntnShoot
Originally Posted by lvmiker
Neocons, progressives, jews, the illuminati, yankees, women, jigroes!
So much fear, so little timegrin

We are doomed, might as well just give up and get stoned.



mike r

You took an oath to the Constitution, Mike?

Good. I'm going to need you to act on that. My rights have been eroded since the day I was born. Get on it.



I did take the oath, several times. I served 27 months in combat killing real commies. I than spent 14 years serving in the cold war, then another 5 years training post 9/11 warriors.

You and SPecialQueeR need to describe your service before flapping your labia about what others have done and how they did it. Have you ever actually put it on the line for any of your grievously eroded rights?

Maybe it it is time for you guys to act rather than moan on the net.


mike r


,...doesn't pass the smell test.
One of the great things about the internet is that the booger eaters can say things that they would never say to a person's face.


mike r
Criscoe can't smell and has frequently demoed that he has no taste. Could it be the covid? The Israelis are carpet bombing the bluegrass w/ the chinese clap.

Pears sent



mike r
Originally Posted by lvmiker
One of the great things about the internet is that the booger eaters can say things that they would never say to a person's face.


mike r


,...and people can claim to have served "14 years in the cold war".

What'd you do,.....fly the SR-71?
I mean,..it just seems odd to me that you've gone from what you claim to have been to a puckered up old man sucking on a lemon in the desert while insulting people on the internet.
Originally Posted by Bristoe
I mean,..it just seems odd to me that you've gone from what you claim to have been to a puckered up old man sucking on a lemon in the desert while insulting people on the internet.



What seems "odd to you" is more of a statement about your personal life than mine. Many have done more than I and that apparently chaps your homespun overalls. If you wasted your life in a factory you have no one to blame but yourself.

Suck it up.


mike r
Snappy comeback.

I've only had to shave twice.
Originally Posted by Stophel
.Among the Romans it was a
standing maxim to excite a war, whenever a
revolt was apprehended.


Germanicus Julius Caesar (under Tiberius)
stemmed a revolt by legions west of the Rhine,
and successfully redirected their energies by
taking them on campaigns across the Rhine.

But it was the reverse with Julius Caesar and his
personal ambition expansion campaigns in Gaul,..
He became hugely wealthy and empowered by his
great war success and loyalty of his legions
resulting in him plunging into civil war when
daring to cross the Rubicon with his returning
army...a big No No according to the Roman
Senate.. And thus the First Triumvirate alliance
no longer stood with Caesar now pitted against
Pompey and his legions.





Just my opinion but to sustain an US Army in the field with rotations every 12 months takes 44 combat bridges.

Some time around 2015 the Army cut back to 33 Combat Bridges because of cost. I was in the Army 27 years,

No one I knew wanted a draft Army. Plus they have about 12 Combat brigades in the National Guard an Reserve.

Most of the Army units are in need of a rest and refit. The National Guard needs the same equipment as the Regular Army.

I do not believe Biden or anyone else wants a war anytime soon. The only time you should need a Draft is if it is a world war.

One more thing the Democrats want to built up the USA, not spend all the money fighting a war in some far away country.

It makes no since.
Originally Posted by MontanaMarine
When the economy sinks, there will be lines at the recruiting offices.

When businesses fold because if high taxation. They will regret it but i bet the boarder will be open again so they can easily get their fix.
Cant be any worse than your other leaders fellas. I followd you into several conflicts. Wouldnt bother us if you won one occasionally. British led wars were usuallly neatly tied off in a few years, even the ones they lost in the colonies. wink

US wars cant even get a result against 3rd world backwaters any more. They either boot us all out, their country splits, you leave the dictator in charge and we have to re-invade again, or we sneak off after 20 years hoping the public forgets what it is all about.

The last fiasco I served in, in Afghanistan, the first ten years the Taliban were considered illegal non combatants. They were then upgraded to being legitimate political entities. Without the usual interim of being 'actual legal soldiers'. lmao.

You have to laugh at that. Like a guy going to prison for rape getting a job as the principal of an all girls school. lmao.
Originally Posted by 158XTP
Cant be any worse than your other leaders fellas. I followd you into several conflicts. Wouldnt bother us if you won one occasionally. British led wars were usuallly neatly tied off in a few years, even the ones they lost in the colonies. wink

US wars cant even get a result against 3rd world backwaters any more. They either boot us all out, their country splits, you leave the dictator in charge and we have to re-invade again, or we sneak off after 20 years hoping the public forgets what it is all about.

The last fiasco I served in, in Afghanistan, the first ten years the Taliban were considered illegal non combatants. They were then upgraded to being legitimate political entities. Without the usual interim of being 'actual legal soldiers'. lmao.

You have to laugh at that. Like a guy going to prison for rape getting a job as the principal of an all girls school. lmao.


What your missing is the military industrial complex. The only bi partison thing congress did in the last 4 years was keep troops in Afghanistan. We have 8000 troops there right now and 5000 in Iraq. Neither one have any sort of a mission statement or end goal. I listened to a retired Special Forces officer who was also a CIA operative in Iraq. 8.5 years total in both countries talk about it. He said the money thrown away is insane and they have to spend it to keep it coming. He said for a goof when he was CIA they put in a requisition for a $32,000 Italian coffee maker and 2 months later it showed up. he said they had a literal fleet of uparmored Mercedes at $500-700k a piece that were useless because they made you a target. He was saying they just kept showing up and they were never used. mattis quit because Trump refused to put troops in Syria. You imagine the billions we would be spending on that mess. Make no mistake these 20 year wars have made a lot of people and a lot of politicians extremely wealthy. Mattis wanted to start a full scale third war. You notice in the last election NOBODY said $ hit about the wars. Whens the last news story you've heard about the special forces operations in Iraq or the troops in Afghanistan?
Am I the only person the finds old men fights funny?
Maybe. Ask yourself a question. Do you feel lucky? Well, do ya punk?

HC
Originally Posted by Bristoe
The Neocons who stole the election and who control Biden did so for one primary purpose,.....to expand America's military excursions in the Middle East.

With half the people in America viewing Biden's Presidency as illegitimate, will the military be able to draw enough volunteers to man the Neocon's adventures, or will they have to reinstate the draft?


I read someplace that total cost per active military member for US taxpayer is over $500000 per year, Britain >$300000, PRC >200000, Russia >50000. How do you envision larger US Military w/o major armed world conflict? Today leadership of intelligently run countries solve their problems w/o using military (China vs. India, for example). Why have huge military with nothing for them to do? I suspect the only reason they keep funding that endeavor is they do not know what to do with people in the military if the size and funding was cut substantially. Making military force larger makes no logical or financial sense.

The simple answer is NO.

The US already has a solution to this problem where it allows foreigners to become citizens through serving in the US military.
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