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9,3 x 62 Mauser here.

1951 Remington 721 rebore (JES) with a custom Lane can.

Wearing a 1.5 x 6 Kahles.

MPBR to 286 yards. 2 MOA steel at 400 yards 9/10 shots.

2020 has her way UNDERUTILIZED... Wind has been kicking my butt.

270 shooters need not reply. Same with Creekmoor transvestites.
.243 Win Ruger MKII-Boat paddle

1st Gen Nikon Monarch 3-9X40

Have the same set up on a matching twosebenty........
1950s Husqvarna 98 Mauser on an FN action. Caliber 30-06. Basner stock painted brown with red pad. Scoped with a Swarovski Z3 3x10.

It’s raining lightly and it is literally rusting before my eyes this morning. Don’t care because I’m getting it coated in a couple of months.
243 win....or 6.5 kreedmire
.280
Remington 700 Classic 7x57mm Zeiss Conquest 3-9
22-250
6.5x55 Barrett FC, Meostar 1.75-10x42, Hornady SST’s

1 down, 3 does to go.

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Originally Posted by CashisKing
270 shooters need not reply. Same with Creekmoor transvestites.



There has never been a more perfect cartridge invented for deer hunting than the 270 Winchester. It's all anyone needs, as deer aren't that hard to kill. These days I use a 6.5 Creedmoor, and it's every bit as good as the 270, well, almost. The rest of my family uses the 243, and it's all anybody needs.

All Model 700's by the way.
I won a Howa 270 Win at a fire dept raffle a few years ago.

I kill all my deer with it.
LR98 Mauser chambered to 6.5x55 Swede

Sightron 1.5-6x 42mm plex

123 gr SST over start load of N160

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1950s era Savage 99 in .300 Savage. Hunting the state forest land in upstate Pennsylvania. Last two deer I killed were 35 and 60 yards, respectively.
Nice!

Originally Posted by efw
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Remington Model 721 in 270 Winchester with an old 6K Weaver, 130 gr. Core Lokt. All you 270 haters can all GFY.
F-150?
Originally Posted by efw
LR98 Mauser chambered to 6.5x55 Swede

Sightron 1.5-6x 42mm plex

123 gr SST over start load of N160

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Purdy
300 Savage the can do cal for anything you may encounter. GW



PS: 270 Winchester will do the same thing but with a little more recoil: Gay my AZZZZ! shocked laugh GW
Deer aren't hard to kill. Anything you shoot well does the job.
RUGER Hawkeye African - 6.5x55/140 gr. Speer Grand Slam(HC).

...aperture sighted.

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GR
Originally Posted by prairie dog shooter
Deer aren't hard to kill. Anything you shoot well does the job.



^^^THIS^^^^

We have a lot of hunters coming here from Florida, Georgia, and Alabama that lease land to hunt on. The biggest majority show up with a magnum caliber rifle, then get all pizzed off when the adjoining local hunter kills the biggest buck with a 243 or 30-30.
Originally Posted by Gypsy_Wind
6.5x55 Barrett FC, Meostar 1.75-10x42, Hornady SST’s

1 down, 3 does to go.

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How do you like that Barrett?
I’m thinking about getting one for next season if I can find a 7-08 with a 21” barrel. Seems a like a nice minimal hassle all weather rifle.
I don't own a 270 caliber but would vote for the .277 caliber wink. My son has a Marlin MR-7 (best design ever made - only produced from '95-'97) and even though we have rifles costing 4x as much, he said this will be his deer rifle forever. I have a .277 cal Rem 700 that has been carried on all of our deer hunts so far and this will be his go-to when he gives his son the MR-7.
257 Bob or my '99 in 308.
243’s-3
25-06’s-2
257 wby
6.5 crud’s-3
6.5-06
264 Winn’s-2
26 Nosler
270’s-2
270 WSM
7mm-08
7 mags-5
7 ultra mag
300 Savage
308’s-3
30-06’s-4
300 Win
300 wby’s-2
338 Win
358 Win
Probably some I’ve forgotten

I take the rifles that hollers the loudest when I open safe. Didn’t count .223’s and 22-250 as deer rifles
I used .300 Magnum with 3-9x42 for years. I bought it when I was young and inexperienced. If I had to do it over again I would choose: 6,5x57, 7x57, 6,5x55, 7x64 or 7,62x51. Any of those would do, in practical terms the differences are infinitesimal.
I have 4 deer tags this year and so far I have filled 2 of them. I also had one Antelope tag which I filled and I have one elk tag yet to fill .
Deer #1 was shot with a Remington M141 in 35 Remington. #2 was a Marlin 336 in 30-30. Pronghorn buck was shot with a 30-06 M1 garand

I have several other rifles I may use for deer #3 and #4.
It's a pleasant dilemma------- to need to choose only 2 from the list. All on my "deer-list" have only iron sights.

5.56
6.5 Mannlicher
270
303 British
300 Savage Remington M81
300 Savage Savage 99
9.3X57
I don't exclude the 3 rifles above yet either, a 30-06 from the M1, the 30-30 or the 35 Remington........

Bullets I have loaded are
60 Gr Partition for the 5.56,
156 grain PPU for the 6.5X54,
150 grain RN Core-Lokt for the 270,
180 gr Core-Lokt for the 303,
150 gr Core-Lokt for the Savage 99 300,
180 grain Nosler BT for the 300 Savage Remington 81,
285 Gr RN for the 9.3X57,
170 gr Core-Lokt for the 30-30
200 grain Core-Lokt for the 35 Rem,
and 150 grain Nosler BT for the M1 garand.

My elk hunt is a meat hunt and in open country, so I will use a scoped rifle for that, and I will probably just get out the Mauser in 300 H&H with 200 grain Partitions, but I may use my 9.3X62 Mauser with 286 grain Hornadys or my 9.3X74R, Ruger #1 with 286 grain Partiutions.

Decisions decisions................................What say you folks?
.30-06
Remington model 7, 7/08 wearing a SPS takeoff cut to 22" and a Model 7 predator stock. Burris C4 Plus 3-9x40 in Leopold rings and 2 piece bases (soon to be swapped out for some Talley lightweights I've had for 2-3 years.

120gr. Ballistic Tips over 51 grains of Ramshot Big Game.
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
I won a Howa 270 Win at a fire dept raffle a few years ago.

I kill all my deer with it.


I didn't know you were gay... thought I saw a family picture there a while back.

Its not gay if your 270 was free.

Thats called "thrifty".
Kimber Montana, factory dupe Lilja 1:8" 3-groove @ 22", 270Win, 150ABLR @ 3050fps, 2.5-10x42 NXS w/MOAR reticle.

Backup, M70 SS Classic Fwt in Brown Precision stock. 140gn TSX @ 3030fps, 2.5-10x42 NXS w/IHR reticle.

I taken several deer and at least 1 elk with each of them. Both have 1-shot kills on deer over 500yds.

I also have a muzzleloader tag to fill. TC Omega, 1x24 Sightron, 250gn Shockwave/Hornady, 3 pellets.
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Its not gay if your 270 was free.

Thats called "thrifty".


LOL
Originally Posted by Hastings
.30-06

+1,

It doesn't matter what the question is the answer is 30-06.
Some of us 270 shooters on holiday!!!


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No .308 Winchesters?
Marlin XS7 in .308. Nothing fancy and it "takes a licking and keeps on ticking".
Ruger #1A. 7x57.
Used plenty of other rifles/cartridges over the past 60 years but ended up with this three years ago. It will be my last and forever deer combo. Fits me like a glove, mild recoil, gives 1” groups at 100 meters and with 145 Speer HCs at just under 2800 fps performs with deadly finality on deer sized critters.
Most of this season's hunting so far has been with a couple of .308 rifles. The two times I got totally skunked and saw nothing were the two times I carried something else. Maybe it's just going to be a .308 kind of year.
Originally Posted by JoeBob
1950s Husqvarna 98 Mauser on an FN action. Caliber 30-06. Basner stock painted brown with red pad. Scoped with a Swarovski Z3 3x10.

It’s raining lightly and it is literally rusting before my eyes this morning. Don’t care because I’m getting it coated in a couple of months.

you can get Dura coat in a spry bottle with the hardner for $60 and do it yourself. you will have enough for 3 rifles or shotguns but must have them ready being when you release the hardner you only have maybe 2 days before it dries in the can
I did a guys Browning A5 shotgun that looked like it was retrieved from the titanic. sanded the rust off washed it down 5 times with brake fluid and the degreaser that came in the package. put 3 coats on it and did my Sig 30-06 and a shotgun. the A5 looks like new cause I got the color that mimics bluing. the guy loves it
I killed deer with 270 and 30-06. They still haven't told me what they prefer to be shot with, probably because they're dead no matter what they get hit with.
Husqvarna in 30/06, 243 Win
Mexican 1935 in 7mm
Winchester 1895 in 35 Win
Marlin 336 in 35 Rem

Here's a few of them...

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Love it. It’s a tack-driver and a joy to carry. Nothing about it was any less than my expectations.

Hope you’re able to track down a 7-08. That was my first choice also but I caught the tail end of them selling out everywhere when they halted production and there was nary a 7-08 to be found.

Barrett said production should resume late this year or early next when I called in June but I haven’t heard that it has.

Originally Posted by TheLastLemming76
Originally Posted by Gypsy_Wind
6.5x55 Barrett FC, Meostar 1.75-10x42, Hornady SST’s

1 down, 3 does to go.

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How do you like that Barrett?
I’m thinking about getting one for next season if I can find a 7-08 with a 21” barrel. Seems a like a nice minimal hassle all weather rifle.
Sako Classic 7 Mag bedded trigger tuned topped off with a Zeiss. I have a load with 150 grain Swift Scirocco's.
Ruger Hawkeye .All Weather .308 Win, VX3i 3.5-10X40

Ruger Hawkeye Walnut/Blue UL .257 Roberts, VX-2 2-7X33 LRD
I have owned many different calibers and would guess I am down to about a dozen rifles for deer. Last deer was shot with a Mossberg 30-30. And most likely I’ll be carrying the same rifle this year.
7mm-08
223
1998 Remington 700 SS, gunsmith safely adjusted the trigger, Leupold Vari-X III 3.5-10x40, Limbsaver recoil pad, 30.06, Federal ammo w/165-gr SGK's. It's entirely too much just to kill deer in El Norte Tejas, I wish I had something smaller like a 6.5x55
My son and I used his 243 loaded with my cast bullets to kill our deer this year. We had to keep the shots closer, but it worked very well.
Originally Posted by blindshooter
F-150?


Lot of frontal area ... "bullet" hopefully doesn't deform too much.
Kimber Montana in 280AI
257 weatherby and a thirty thirty
Remington 700 cdl, 7mm rem , recrowned barrel , jeweled action , bedded stock and trigger set a 1 lb , dont take safety off until your ready to shoot .
Zeiss V4 scope 4x16
Originally Posted by Gypsy_Wind
Nice!

Originally Posted by efw
LR98 Mauser chambered to 6.5x55 Swede
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Originally Posted by TheLastLemming76


Purdy


Thanks gentlemen it’s a genuine Campfire special I’ve been cobbling for many years and I’m super happy with it.
.257 Roberts. Remington 700 Classic. Leupold 6x scope
Calibers? This year several varieties of non-magnum .30s.
223
256 Newton today with 123gr Scenar bullets.
30-06, 308, 257 wby, 30-30. 3006 gets the nod this year. Have used 300wm in the long ago past.
Win 70 fwt, 30-06

Win 70 6.5x 55 swede

Sometimes my old Marlin 30-30

They all work well--- the swede is my favorite now.
I look , pick something I haven`t killed with ,test zero , use it .
Yesterday I shot one with 783 300 Win. 150gr Winchester deer season . Rifle shoots three into an inch at one hundred yds, lol , spike walked under me at 10 yds. Shot him through the neck came out shoulder . Always wondered what a magnum would do , now I know .
Man what a mess .
Next up is a 444 .
Kenneth
Remington '06 using 150grain reloaded Core-lokts for 90% deer elk antelope.
Whitworth Mauser mannlicher stocked 7x57 with Leupold VXIII 1.5-5x, backed up by a Colt Coltsman L579 in 308 with a VX-2 3-9x40. Neither has seen daylight this season due to work.

Old70
Cz 550 fs in 6.5 x 55. Zeiss conquest 3-9x40. Or model 94 Win in 30-30.
Imo, the choice of rifle is more important than caliber. A good rifle that you like and fits you in anyone of numerous calibers will serve well. I found a used CZ 550 I loved. It happened to be in .308 but if it was 270, 30/06, 6.5 or .243 I'd have bought it just the same.
Tomorrow is our rifle opener and I'll be carrying the Winchester 94 NRA Centennial in 30-30 that my Uncle Hank left me, in his memory. It's the first time in 45 years I won't be hunting with him.
I killed deer with a .280 Rem with a 150 gr. Rem Corelokt and a 6.5 Swede with a 139 Gr. Hornady ELD-X . Results were the same.
This year, I'm using one of my 308's I feel I'm in good company with it.
This Howa in .308 works just fine for me

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Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Its not gay if your 270 was free.

Thats called "thrifty".

Most thrifty folks don't spend $28 dollars for socks.
I dunno until I wake up. Might be a .224, or... .25/.28/.30/.38/.40/.45/.50/.56/.73
Mossberg 500 with 12ga pumpkin balls, open sites too. RAW!!!
Traveling to hunt whitetails this year. Season (for me) starts Sunday with a borrowed .308W, Ruger UL tanger. Or maybe a .243.
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Stainless lw model 70 in .30-06
Usually a 280 or 300 win till I quit buck hunting. Then I switch to a 243, 223 or my Grandpa's 107 year old Winchester 32 special to do the doe killing. My eyes are getting to where I have problems neck or head shooting does using open sights and I refuse to body shoot a doe that I plan to eat. Even a 10mm pistol will kill a doe when shot in the head or neck.
Remington 700 Mountain Rifle in 7mm-08 when the rifle is the last thing to be concerned with.

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The Shamanic Deer Battery

Here are all the deer rifles used by the Shamanic Dream Team. You'll see we're heavy on 30-somethings-- mostly 30-06.
Rem 760 in .35 rem w Leupold 2-7x.
200gr Hornady Leverevolution does an inch at 100.

Maybe Ruger #1 ( pre B ) in .280 rem. Leupold 3-9x.
Aint zeroed yet ( have Corelokts to try 140gr ).

Steyr Prohunter .30-06. Leupold 3.5-10x. Cheap ww 150gr does an inch at 100.
Originally Posted by slumlord
Mossberg 500 with 12ga pumpkin balls, open sites too. RAW!!!


Proly drink Old Style too
Originally Posted by DigitalDan
I dunno until I wake up. Might be a .224, or... .25/.28/.30/.38/.40/.45/.50/.56/.73


I think that was a Johnny Cash song. Lol



This year my weapon of choice is a Ruger Merkin in 6.5 Missmore. My wife is toting a Mossberg Trailerpark in 243.

#elite
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Stainless lw model 70 in .30-06

I like both!
I have shot deer with .224, 243, .257, .264, .277, .284, and .308.

They all work, you pay your money and take your choice.

I have plenty of rifles in .323 and .338 that would probably work, too.

My personal favorites are 6.5-06 120 gr NBT and 7mmRM 140 gr NBT.
Originally Posted by Clarkm
I have shot deer with .224, 243, .257, .264, .277, .284, and .308.

They all work, you pay your money and take your choice.

I have plenty of rifles in .323 and .338 that would probably work, too.

My personal favorites are 6.5-06 120 gr NBT and 7mmRM 140 gr NBT.

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It makes little difference when shot is well-placed. There are some extra fine choices like custom shop Model 7 cal 7-08 with light Kevlar reinforced stock. It comes down to ease of carrying a rifle especially if one has a lot of walking to do.
My favorite in Texas was always the .25-06
I don't own a rifle thats newer than 1990.

308, 30-06 and 300Wby.

Kilt deer with all of them.
Man I like that stock very nice!
I’m gonna take 99’s this weekend to east Texas, hunt with a 358. 300 Savage for a backup.
Mostly a lowly 7x57 that i built about 30 years ago.
My son and I will be using .270's. 130 gr Accubond backed by IMR 4451. Chronos around 3100 fps.
This year so far, .32-40 Marlin 1893, .45-70 Winchester 1885 and .308 Ruger American.
Originally Posted by TrueGrit
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Its not gay if your 270 was free.
Thats called "thrifty".
Most thrifty folks don't spend $28 dollars for socks.
Taking good care of your feet makes good economic sense. A .270 is almost as good as a .30-06. I had to use one while my Model 700 was getting re-barreled. It worked. I just didn't tell anyone. Kind of like a colored girlfriend.
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i think i will do all 35's this year

35 whelen 7600 carbine - 1st day
358 ruger 77 rs carbine - 2nd day
35 rem marlin 336d guide gun - 3rd day
out back of the house i usually take my 1919 rem mod 14r 35 rem

the only thing that will change that plan will be if it gets rainy or snow. then i switch to a ruger 77 frontier in 338 federal stainless/laminate.
It's supposed to rain most of the first week here so will be taking my Ruger M77 Hawkeye all weather .30-06. It's the only stainless/synthetic rifle I own and was purchased specifically for rainy weather use. On days when it's not raining will take either my Winchester 94 or Marlin 336, both chambered in .30-30.
1939 K98 8x57
Sako picked em up around europe after WW2 did some customizing and sold em in American Px,s in europe till the early 60,s.


This sure as heck didnt look like this when I found it at a pawnshop.
Probably one of the better project rifles I have ever done.


Sightron SII 3-9X42
Burris low rings
Weaver steel base,s

Installed during the off season
Timney trigger set at 2pd 2 oz
26 pd wolff firing pin spring
Zeroed it earlier this week.
Accurate and hard hitting with Sellior & Bellot 196gr SPCE 2592 fps

I killed a shriveled ball sack 3.5 yr mutant 5 pt last year with it after running it down for a shot for about 300 yds of stop and start running on Slumlords place.

He was a spectator for the whole thing, cause we was actually getting his 8pt outta the woods he shot earlier.

About 115 125 yds thru the timber.
Deer never had a chance.
Never seen a Buck thru the scope body shudder like that on impact so hard before.
Left a instant blood trail stevie wonder could have followed for 40 yds.
LOL!!!
I got 2 Buck tags for rifle season starting tommorow morning.


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Mostly a Ruger 77 30-06 and Marlin 30-30. But also a 270 and maybe a 340 Weatherby too
I've never owned or fired a 270 but know of many younger boys who started with one and a few ladies who love theirs. It's got a niche for the recoil sensitive.

I don't think a 243 is more manly than a 270 but I have used one for deer and antelope harvesting many times. The 260 was cool to try out back in the day but the 30 cal and larger cartridges just plain kill better.
6.5 Swedish Mauser. Case closed.
Winchester Model 70 Featherweight New Haven gun,30-06.

Browning BAR Limited Production,30-06.Instead or the usual Browning high gloss finish this has satin finished wood and matt finished metal.
Too many choices and not enough time. Always favored the 270 with 130 BT,have 3 of them but for past 2 years I 've either carried mt win 70 270wsm or model 7 6mm rem. Like mentioned shot placement is the key,I've taken quite a few with my handy rifle 22 hornet with 45gr sp, 1 shot through the lungs will do it.
Kimber Montana in 7mm-08 for myself.
Rem LVSF/TI stock in 7mm-08 for my son.
Rem model seven cdl in 7mm-08 for my daughter.

There's a theme in there somewhere. grin
I hate to take anything ‘nice’ or foo-foo, custom, limited time only mcrib rifle, i had elmer keith’s baby on the stock, etc

It just gets neggered up in my metal stands.

I made up dat chit about pumpkin balls and fire breathing dragon shotgun.


6.5 Norma, all weather savage 116

Let the blood letting begin
Honestly, not much says “Killin’ Rifle” like an ugly SS Savage.
More than likely it'll be my .280AI with 120 grain Nosler BT's if the cancer allows a bit of hunting time this year.
Dang, hbb, I didn’t know about the cancer. Both my FIL and SIL are battling it right now too. Hope you kick its ass...
This season has been the old 700 inline with the Badger Ridge 209 conversion and my beat up 25-06 700 mountain rifle is probably going in the morning
Originally Posted by JPro
Dang, hbb, I didn’t know about the cancer. Both my FIL and SIL are battling it right now too. Hope you kick its ass...


Yep, just had my third surgery to remove a tumor this past Tuesday.

My best to your FIL and SIL
Seems like nov 21 is rifle opener in alot of places.
Originally Posted by hillbillybear
Originally Posted by JPro
Dang, hbb, I didn’t know about the cancer. Both my FIL and SIL are battling it right now too. Hope you kick its ass...


Yep, just had my third surgery to remove a tumor this past Tuesday.

My best to your FIL and SIL


And best luck to you
Opening day tomorrow -257 Roberts Ruger M77 - supposed to rain Sun evening
through Monday. My foul weather gun is a Mauser custom 7x57 by my friend Donald
Pushee (deceased). Had it coated a few yrs back. Don was retired state trooper
better known for building muzzle loaders, but he did some great bolt actions also.
I am an old man now and I guess my choices of calibers show it. But they worked
when I shot my first Buck in 1956 and they still work .
Old Cuss
Not aesthetically a real stunner, but looks good in a rugged kind of way. Just put it in this stock today, soon as I can get it zeroed, it'll go hunting. Built the rifle last year and it was zeroed in another stock so that shouldn't be too bad of a chore.

Remington 700 SA, squared up and with a PacNor 22" barrel in .308 Win., Timney trigger, Grayboe terrain inletted for AICS mags, action notched to accommodate 2.9" and a little change OAL, NF NXS 2.5-10X42 with mildot reticle.

I am ready for that challenging Eastern Whitetail shot of 40 yards.....

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Either the RAR Ranch 450 Bushmaster or Ruger M-77/44.
Special Weapons area don’t you know.
Im not complaining though my longest shot might be 150 in one little window through the trees
It seems as though a number of different opinions exist as to the answer.
Beretta Mato with a Burris Signature Select 3-10x40 scope in 30-06 with Swift 150 grain Sirocco II bullets.
Its either my Savage 16fcss in 260 that's one of the most accurate rifles I've ever shot. Or more likely lately my Ruger American compact stainless in 308. Two reasons its rugged steep and thick around here and the compact is just so much nicer to navigate through gnarly terrain, brambles and stuff, and, I'm seeing more grizzlies every year lately. About 5 years back I jumped a grizzly that thankfully took off like a shot and didn't stop. But my little 260 all the sudden seemed, well, little. I wouldn't hunt big bears with a 308 but I feel reasonably armed with it for the very odd chance I ever have troubles loaded with 150gr ttsx'. The ttsx' keep a smaller wound channel too and waste less deer meat.
Cashisking: If YOU are excluding the wonderful 270 Winchester cartridge from ANY line-up of superior "Deer Hunting Rifles" then you are simply an idiot!
And that is sad in a way.
Hold into the wind
VarmintGuy
I have a Blaser R93 rifle in .257 Wby Magnum topped with a S&B 3-12x50 Klassik scope. I like the #9 reticle.

I use 115 gr Nosler ballistic tip factory loads. It will down a deer of any size. I’ve shot some big ones.
Remington Model 7 in .243 Winchester, bedded in a McMillan stock; Leupold 6x scope

Interarms Mark X Mauser in 7x57, bedded in a McMillan Stock, Leupold 2-7x scope

Savage 99 in .300 Savage, Lyman All American 2.5x scope
Originally Posted by VarmintGuy
Cashisking: If YOU are excluding the wonderful 270 Winchester cartridge from ANY line-up of superior "Deer Hunting Rifles" then you are simply an idiot!
And that is sad in a way.
Hold into the wind
VarmintGuy


Easy now VarmindGuy he's not an idiot, just homophobic. Hahahahahahaha!
Originally Posted by VarmintGuy
Cashisking: If YOU are excluding the wonderful 270 Winchester cartridge from ANY line-up of superior "Deer Hunting Rifles" then you are simply an idiot!
And that is sad in a way.
Hold into the wind
VarmintGuy


I could make the case that it is the ideal deer cartridge
Model 660 Remington with a 2x7 Leupold in .243 Winchester.
There are so many good ones, but if I could have only one it would be a .308 win
I used a sst 700 in 7mm weatherby this year. Was planning on the 8x57 700 classic but rain kept it in the safe.
Whatever I grab . A sharp stick
Winchester Model 70 Featherweight in 7X57.
8x57, VZ-24 action, surplus Yugo barrel. DT trigger, Jkolb safety, Coyote bomber pattern Micky classic stock. 4x32 Meopta. 200gr Speer over 53gr CFE223.
Tikka T3 lite .270 Winchester, sightron big sky II. 3x9x42
BAR 243
Originally Posted by Mathsr
Husqvarna in 30/06, 243 Win
Mexican 1935 in 7mm
Winchester 1895 in 35 Win
Marlin 336 in 35 Rem

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Lovin’ that 1895 and the Mexican!
My two usual deer rifle calibers are .30-06 and 7mm-08. They both just consistently work. Thanksgiving weekend will be my first deer hunt this season. I have a rifled slug barrel for my Remington 870 that I have never shot anything with, other than targets, that I am going to take along with the 7mm-08. I've got the 12 ga. sighted in at 1.5 in. high @ 100 yards with Winchester 3" sabot slugs. That should do the job on most any Louisiana deer or hog.
Depends......how big are the deer and hogs?
.30-06
Originally Posted by prplbkrr
Depends......how big are the deer and hogs?



Real big!
REM 700 280 in a McMillan KS stock

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308 Winchester in a Stainless Steel Ruger Hawkeye
Originally Posted by prplbkrr
Depends......how big are the deer and hogs?

Well....since they will be Louisiana critters, should be no problem. Now....if they were Texas deer and hogs, might need a .375. Everything in Texas being much bigger, ya' know! :-)
7mm ‘08, 120 gr Barnes

Speed kills

NULA
BLR 284
760 Gamemaster 300 savage
1894 Winchester 30/30
I don't know. I was leaning towards the 25-06. But I opened the safe and the 250 savage 700 classic is what I grabbed. Wife is taking her personal favorite 257 Roberts also a classic.
Custom 1909 DWM Argentine, 257 Roberts .
There will be a live thread in the morn, you all can post pics live from the stand with your rifle.

night-night, 0400 come early



grin
I have several fine rifles for these cartridges, which I enjoy. My favorite is probably the Atkinson Custom in 6.5x55 Swede. I also enjoy black powder and have several .50 and .56 cal Mountain Rifles.

.243 Win - Sako, Interarms
.257 Roberts - Ruger
.25-06 Rem - Sako
.260 Rem - Steyr, Kimber
6.5x55 Swede - Atkinson Custom, Steyr
.270 Win - Marlin
.280 Rem - Sig
7x57 Mauser - Mauser
7mm-08 Rem - Remington
.300 Savage - Savage
.308 Win - Sako, Kimber
.30-06 Springfield - Sako, Marlin, Remington
30-06 has the knock down authority 308 is my favorite 270 is gay but shoots flat 243 I’ve never warmed up to
I've been carrying my Husqvarna 7X57 this year. It shoots good for an old rifle but carries great. When the buck stepped out of the thick stuff at about 30 yards I reached for my Ruger Blackhawk 44 magnum loaded with some hard cast 44 special loads. The rifle just didn't seem to be the right tool for the job.
300 win mag as ammo is readily available most anywhere should you need more or forget to pack when you travel. Can be loaded for the biggest of NA game and also tamed down for smaller critters.

Barrel length of a win mag I believe is best at 26” but more often than not with a production rifle it will be 24”. I use a can when possible/allowed so I shy away from anything longer than 24”.


3x Brno model 21 in 7x64, and if I can find a ZKK 601 with a pop up rear sight in 308w I will sell them and be good with the swap.
On my way to the woods this morning with a RAR in 300 blackout. Had to pass on a doe walking into my stand yesterday with it at 75 yards because she stopped at the top of the hill in line with the neighbors place. Hope to get the first one with it this morning.
Browning A-Bolt II Stainless Stalker in 300 WSM with a Zeiss Conquest 3-9x40 mounted in Leupold standard low rings.

Ruger M77RL IN 270.
This Buck thought the 270 was gay, not so much any more smile

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Kind of thought you’d say 35 rem
Originally Posted by slumlord
Kind of thought you’d say 35 rem

Or Whelen, eh?
My deer rifle is a CVA Cascade in 350 Legend. Thanks to the guys here always finding deals at Walmart, I found this one for $299 at Wally World. Thanks Campfire! I also have a Remington 700 Sps DM in 270 but that's my elk rifle now, if I ever go elk hunting. I'll probably never have a big long list of rifles for shooting deer or anything else. I had a .22/250 but I gave it to a young man who needed a rifle.
Originally Posted by Mach3
I killed deer with 270 and 30-06. They still haven't told me what they prefer to be shot with, probably because they're dead no matter what they get hit with.

Zackley. Being socially critical about calibers that obviously work seems a little estrogen-driven, but whatever.

I reload, but I like my hunting calibers to be available in box stores wherever I go.

300WM
30-06
.308
6.5CM
Live!!!

Savage 116 fcss (whatever all that chit stands for)

6.5 something


Gotta go, i hear leave rustling, yes we have tree here.


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I've found 45-70 does a good job with any bullet weight and 243 with 105 grain bullets do well
Zip tie some split 1” heater hose around the rail.
Originally Posted by TrueGrit
Zip tie some split 1” heater hose around the rail.


Yeah, I have been trying to get that done. I have some urethane hvac chiller wrap.

Just been hunting our asses off. Get back to the house and there’s always some other crisis that erases my intentions of zipping back across the farm.


I need to do that so I can bring out the foo foo rifle blue and walnut jobs.
Lol at the camera flash in the deer stand
Sometimes Iike a Browning B78 , .257 WBY; worked well on these 2 Alabama bucks:
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Originally Posted by hillbillybear
More than likely it'll be my .280AI with 120 grain Nosler BT's if the cancer allows a bit of hunting time this year.


Prayers for a Complete healing and remission, and many great hunts this season!
Originally Posted by 65BR
Originally Posted by hillbillybear
More than likely it'll be my .280AI with 120 grain Nosler BT's if the cancer allows a bit of hunting time this year.


Prayers for a Complete healing and remission, and many great hunts this season!


+1
Originally Posted by VarmintGuy
Cashisking: If YOU are excluding the wonderful 270 Winchester cartridge from ANY line-up of superior "Deer Hunting Rifles" then you are simply an idiot!
And that is sad in a way.


.270...Hold into the wind

VarmintGuy


9,3x62 Mauser... not so much eh?
Does anybody know what the parent cartridge of .270 is?

What about the parent cartridge of 30-06?

Otto Bock... anybody ever heard of him?

Just checking.

BTW... holding into the wind is like holding hands with a guy... kinda gay.

Just joking VG... you are highly respected in my book.
The parent cartridge of the 270 Winchester and the 30-06 Springfield is the 30-03. The case length for the 270 and the 30-03 is 2.54". The 30-06 was created by shortening the case length to 2.484 and dropping bullet weight from 220 grains down to 150 grains and raising the velocity from 2,300 fps to 2,700 fps.
Model 7 in 7-08 SS in a Bansner w/2.5-8 Leupold VX3i or Winchester 70 30-06 SS Featherweight in a Mcmillan w/Minox ZA3 3-9. If the boy is by my side its his 700 ADL .243 w/ VX-1 3-9.
30-06, 30-30 and 45-70 depending on where iam and what mood iam in
Originally Posted by ar15a292f
The parent cartridge of the 270 Winchester and the 30-06 Springfield is the 30-03. The case length for the 270 and the 30-03 is 2.54". The 30-06 was created by shortening the case length to 2.484 and dropping bullet weight from 220 grains down to 150 grains and raising the velocity from 2,300 fps to 2,700 fps.


Which was stolen from the Mauser family in German. Do a little Google work on the topic please.

Mauser even won a lawsuit over it.

But no compensation... World War I covered the tracks
Originally Posted by CashisKing
Originally Posted by ar15a292f
The parent cartridge of the 270 Winchester and the 30-06 Springfield is the 30-03. The case length for the 270 and the 30-03 is 2.54". The 30-06 was created by shortening the case length to 2.484 and dropping bullet weight from 220 grains down to 150 grains and raising the velocity from 2,300 fps to 2,700 fps.


Which was stolen from the Mauser family in German. Do a little Google work on the topic please.

Mauser even won a lawsuit over it.

But no compensation... World War I covered the tracks


Cash,
Why don't you try doing a little research on the topic. The original round that all of these cartridges came from is the Patrone 88, which was designed by the German Rifle testing commision, not Mauser and first used in the German Gewher 88 service rifle, which was not a Mauser design. The original cartridge had a base diameter of 12mm, or 0.473 inches. The cartridges that followed it, 7x57 Mauser, 7.65x53 Mauser, 30-03, 30-06, 270 Win, 9-57, 7x64, 9x57, 9.3x62 etc. all share the same 12mm base diameter, the length of the cartridge case and the diameter of the bullet were changed to make different cartridges.

As to what Mauser sued for, it was copying the design of the Mauser locking system and the Mauser stripper clips. The German government also tried to sue for the copying of the pointed sptizer bullet but I believe that US Ordinance was able to prove that they were indepently working on the concept.
Originally Posted by ar15a292f
Originally Posted by CashisKing
Originally Posted by ar15a292f
The parent cartridge of the 270 Winchester and the 30-06 Springfield is the 30-03. The case length for the 270 and the 30-03 is 2.54". The 30-06 was created by shortening the case length to 2.484 and dropping bullet weight from 220 grains down to 150 grains and raising the velocity from 2,300 fps to 2,700 fps.


Which was stolen from the Mauser family in German. Do a little Google work on the topic please.

Mauser even won a lawsuit over it.

But no compensation... World War I covered the tracks


Cash,
Why don't you try doing a little research on the topic. The original round that all of these cartridges came from is the Patrone 88, which was designed by the German Rifle testing commision, not Mauser and first used in the German Gewher 88 service rifle, which was not a Mauser design. The original cartridge had a base diameter of 12mm, or 0.473 inches. The cartridges that followed it, 7x57 Mauser, 7.65x53 Mauser, 30-03, 30-06, 270 Win, 9-57, 7x64, 9x57, 9.3x62 etc. all share the same 12mm base diameter, the length of the cartridge case and the diameter of the bullet were changed to make different cartridges.

As to what Mauser sued for, it was copying the design of the Mauser locking system and the Mauser stripper clips. The German government also tried to sue for the copying of the pointed sptizer bullet but I believe that US Ordinance was able to prove that they were indepently working on the concept.


Excellent...

Thank you so much for doing the legwork, it's excellent to be a lazy [bleep] like myself some days... now, go fetch me another beer b****
The 9.3x62 is not part of that group. It is a separate development.
Originally Posted by JoeBob
The 9.3x62 is not part of that group. It is a separate development.

You are correct, my mistake, the base diameter is 12.1mm on the 9.3x62, versus 12mm on the 8x57.
Originally Posted by CashisKing
Originally Posted by ar15a292f
Originally Posted by CashisKing
Originally Posted by ar15a292f
The parent cartridge of the 270 Winchester and the 30-06 Springfield is the 30-03. The case length for the 270 and the 30-03 is 2.54". The 30-06 was created by shortening the case length to 2.484 and dropping bullet weight from 220 grains down to 150 grains and raising the velocity from 2,300 fps to 2,700 fps.


Which was stolen from the Mauser family in German. Do a little Google work on the topic please.

Mauser even won a lawsuit over it.

But no compensation... World War I covered the tracks


Cash,
Why don't you try doing a little research on the topic. The original round that all of these cartridges came from is the Patrone 88, which was designed by the German Rifle testing commision, not Mauser and first used in the German Gewher 88 service rifle, which was not a Mauser design. The original cartridge had a base diameter of 12mm, or 0.473 inches. The cartridges that followed it, 7x57 Mauser, 7.65x53 Mauser, 30-03, 30-06, 270 Win, 9-57, 7x64, 9x57, 9.3x62 etc. all share the same 12mm base diameter, the length of the cartridge case and the diameter of the bullet were changed to make different cartridges.

As to what Mauser sued for, it was copying the design of the Mauser locking system and the Mauser stripper clips. The German government also tried to sue for the copying of the pointed sptizer bullet but I believe that US Ordinance was able to prove that they were indepently working on the concept.


Excellent...

Thank you so much for doing the legwork, it's excellent to be a lazy [bleep] like myself some days... now, go fetch me another beer b****


Cash,

You're welcome, there was no leg work involved, just posting some general knowledge I had on the subject. You may be a lazy mf'er, I don't know you so I'll have to take your word for it. I consider you a stupid mf'er, you can't help that you don't know what you don't know. The internet is full of idiots, you have lots of company bitch. I didn't know you drank beer, you come across as more of a white russian or cranberry & vodka type.
Well this thread motivated me.... Just pulled one of the 9.3x62 rifles out of the safe and I will sit with that rifle this evening.
Originally Posted by ar15a292f
Originally Posted by JoeBob
The 9.3x62 is not part of that group. It is a separate development.

You are correct, my mistake, the base diameter is 12.1mm on the 9.3x62, versus 12mm on the 8x57.


You might want to check on that little further. Start with Wikipedia and maybe end up with Saami?

Now go fetch me another beer b****
Originally Posted by ar15a292f
Originally Posted by CashisKing
Originally Posted by ar15a292f
Originally Posted by CashisKing
Originally Posted by ar15a292f
The parent cartridge of the 270 Winchester and the 30-06 Springfield is the 30-03. The case length for the 270 and the 30-03 is 2.54". The 30-06 was created by shortening the case length to 2.484 and dropping bullet weight from 220 grains down to 150 grains and raising the velocity from 2,300 fps to 2,700 fps.


Which was stolen from the Mauser family in German. Do a little Google work on the topic please.

Mauser even won a lawsuit over it.

But no compensation... World War I covered the tracks


Cash,
Why don't you try doing a little research on the topic. The original round that all of these cartridges came from is the Patrone 88, which was designed by the German Rifle testing commision, not Mauser and first used in the German Gewher 88 service rifle, which was not a Mauser design. The original cartridge had a base diameter of 12mm, or 0.473 inches. The cartridges that followed it, 7x57 Mauser, 7.65x53 Mauser, 30-03, 30-06, 270 Win, 9-57, 7x64, 9x57, 9.3x62 etc. all share the same 12mm base diameter, the length of the cartridge case and the diameter of the bullet were changed to make different cartridges.

As to what Mauser sued for, it was copying the design of the Mauser locking system and the Mauser stripper clips. The German government also tried to sue for the copying of the pointed sptizer bullet but I believe that US Ordinance was able to prove that they were indepently working on the concept.


Excellent...

Thank you so much for doing the legwork, it's excellent to be a lazy [bleep] like myself some days... now, go fetch me another beer b****


Cash,

You're welcome, there was no leg work involved, just posting some general knowledge I had on the subject. You may be a lazy mf'er, I don't know you so I'll have to take your word for it. I consider you a stupid mf'er, you can't help that you don't know what you don't know. The internet is full of idiots, you have lots of company bitch. I didn't know you drank beer, you come across as more of a white russian or cranberry & vodka type.



BTW... what is the parent case to .30-03?
6.5-08, Now it's exotic enough. ;-{>8
What a question. I'm not about to read all these answers. I'll bet every caliber and variation is covered an sworn by.
Cash,
You must have a problem with reading comprehension, I already stated that the parent case for that family of cartridges was the Patrone 88, or Model 88 also known as the 7.9x57I (or J depending on translation). It was not designed by Paul Mauser but by the German Rifle commission.
Now, now, kids.... try to get along...

Lot'sa choices in my house. From .224 - .358.
But, if it's early or late, raining or sunny out, close range or long, I'm probably going to be packing the same rifle.
It'll be a stainless synthetic bolt action. Be wearing a solid scope in MQ that I can dial, and be light in the hand.
Cartridge will either be the 6.5CM or 7mm-08....I'm betting the rifle will be a Kimber Hunter, too.
Doesn't matter if it's a deer, elk or pronghorn.

If I'm feeling old school, I'll grab my classically stocked, wood & blue Rem 700 with Leupold 2.5x8 on deck.
It weighs a little more than the Kimber's but is just as accurate.
Oh, and it'll be chambered for the justifiably revered .270Win and running a 130gr Hornady spire point.
Actually. 30-03 was based on .30-01 which was based on P88...

But all of that is nuanced minutiae.

What I'd like to learn more about is why you think 9,3 Mauser was not born from 7 and 8 Mauser.
I never said that the 9.3 Mauser was not born from the 7 and 8 Mauser, what i said was that I agreed JoeBob in that it was a separate development. What I meant by that is Otto Bock's 9.3x62 case isn't a exactly a lengthened 8x57 case with a larger bore. The 8x57 has a base diameter of .470" and the 9.3x62 has a base diameter of .476". This is similar to William Brennke's 7x64, technically it's not a 7mm longer 7x57 because the base diameter is .467 vs the .470 for the 7x57. In the same vein, the 6.5x55 is a separate development because of it's 0.480 base diameter. I will agree that this is also nuanced minutiae.

What I know of the 30-01 is that it was an experimental cartridge with a case length of 2.554"~2.564" developed for testing but not actually adopted. Frankfort Arsenal loaded up 10,000 rounds for development and in 1903 it was shortened to 2.54" and adopted as the 30-03. As you said "nuanced minutiae".
We use everything from a .223, .243 or a 7mm-08.
Originally Posted by ar15a292f
I never said that the 9.3 Mauser was not born from the 7 and 8 Mauser, what i said was that I agreed JoeBob in that it was a separate development. What I meant by that is Otto Bock's 9.3x62 case isn't a exactly a lengthened 8x57 case with a larger bore. The 8x57 has a base diameter of .470" and the 9.3x62 has a base diameter of .476". This is similar to William Brennke's 7x64, technically it's not a 7mm longer 7x57 because the base diameter is .467 vs the .470 for the 7x57. In the same vein, the 6.5x55 is a separate development because of it's 0.480 base diameter. I will agree that this is also nuanced minutiae.

What I know of the 30-01 is that it was an experimental cartridge with a case length of 2.554"~2.564" developed for testing but not actually adopted. Frankfort Arsenal loaded up 10,000 rounds for development and in 1903 it was shortened to 2.54" and adopted as the 30-03. As you said "nuanced minutiae".


What I find interesting is the timeline on P88 and Paul Mauser's 7.65 x 53 and the advent of Paul Vieille invention of smokeless powder just a couple of years before.

Was 7.65 x 53 the Beta of the day... and P88 the VHS?

VHS prevailing? P88 prevailing? Lower chamber pressure?
German Rifle testing commision would have liked that with the "new" smokeless powder "concept".

As for Bock and his 9,3 x 62 desire and design. I see the the delta between 57 and 63 serving three functions.

Overreaming and reboring existing surplus weapons...

Adding case length to balance safe pressures

Max COL for existing actions.

9,3 x 62m was 100% invented as a "Working Mans gun" for Africa.

Regardless of how it occurred, I love the caliber.

FYI, you knowledge is impressive.
The same rifle that I used in 1990! My first deer kill with my, then new, rifle! It’s the only rifle I have used/hunted with since spring of 1990......my .375 AI. memtb




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Interesting comparison with VHS/Beta. I think that the the big advantage the P88 had was that it was the standard cartridge of Germany. IMO the 7.65x53 and 7x57 were Paul Mauser’s creation to help with military sales abroad. The big competitor to Mauser was Styer Mannlicher for military sales around the world. I agree with your assessment of the 9.3x62. I have never used it but it is a great medium bore cartridge and makes a great companion to the 98 Mauser rifle action.
Most often take my Montana Rifle Company .308 Win with 130 gr Barnes TTSX.

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my three chamberings this season:
.308 franchi bolt.
.45-70 NEF single shot.
.223 custom AR type.
The one and only,,,, 30-06 Improved .

As of last week a 1964 Savage 99F in .308 (.243 Improved).
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