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Posted By: wabigoon "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
Fifty-seven yeas ago. Remember where you were when you heard about it?

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Posted By: Utahunter Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
I was in 1st grade, out on the playground during recess. They blew a loud siren, calling everyone in to class and then sent us all home.
Posted By: nyrifleman Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
One less Democrat politician.

A good start.
Posted By: MtnBoomer Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
LBJ
Posted By: wabigoon Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
As I've said John Kennedy was the last Democrat president I thought much of.
Posted By: mark shubert Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
I was working, cleaning trays and utensils, in the kitchen of a parochial school.
Immediately after lunch, the nuns dragged all the students across the street, to the church - to pray for JFK's soul.
Posted By: bearhuntr Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
Originally Posted by MtnBoomer
LBJ

Yes. Also, George Bush...
Posted By: aalf Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20

Third grade....teacher came in the room sobbing & told us.

It was a Friday, and screwed up all the Saturday morning cartoons.

Was my birthday too......
Posted By: JeffyD Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
Originally Posted by Utahunter
I was in 1st grade, out on the playground during recess. They blew a loud siren, calling everyone in to class and then sent us all home.


First grader as well. Our teacher, Mrs. Gray, came into the classroom bawling her eyes out and said, "The President has been shot." Class was dismissed. How can I remember the details so vividly after 57 years, when I can't remember what we had for dinner last Wednesday?
Posted By: cowdoc Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
2nd grade. Principal came to the door and whispered to our teacher, Mrs. Barnhouse.

Her eyes welled up with tears as she told us the President had been shot.

Several people feared it was a Russian plot and a nuclear exchange was in the offing.

Tension was high
Posted By: Dancing Bear Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
i agree
Posted By: wabigoon Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
Basic training US Army, rained out on all drills.

I was in the upstairs of the barracks, a chubby soldier gave us the bad news.

The worst was Johnson, and his war.
Posted By: Bristoe Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
I was in the second grade in the gymnasium where they took us once a day to run us all down. We were going out and a first grade class was coming in. One of the first graders that I knew told me.

Later, the principal of the little elementary school went around to all the classes and told us.

We were small children, but everybody knew that it was a major event.
Posted By: copperking81 Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
Lee Harvey Oswald was a modern day Bernie Bro. No different than any other democrat voter of today or of that day.
Posted By: stuvwxyz Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
I asked a friend my age where he was when he heard about the shooting. Said he remembers it well. Said he was sitting on a mail box waving at Jackie Kennedy. Said the car turned the corner and that was it. He was 8 at the time and was 1/2 block away from the shooting. He was interviewed several times by the FBI.
Posted By: LeroyBeans Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
Originally Posted by copperking81
Lee Harvey Oswald was a modern day Bernie Bro. No different than any other democrat voter of today or of that day.


Really? I can't keep up with the levels of dumbfuckery around here. Oswald is no different than any other democrat voter? Has there been a rash of presidential assassinations that I'm not aware of? In what way was Oswald the same as any democrat voter?

This is even stupider than TreeMutt's thread.
Posted By: navlav8r Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
In junior high school, eighth grade, in the hallway between classes.
Posted By: 22250rem Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
Was in the 8th grade at Catholic elementary school. We got out early on Fridays because they had other stuff scheduled and needed classroom space. Walked out the main door and a classmate told us Kennedy had been shot. We didn't believe him until he had us go over to the corner drug store that had it all on the radio. I was 13 and never thought that stuff happened anymore. All those assassination things were stuff from the old days like Pres. Lincoln and Archduke Ferdinand and didn't really occur in modern day America. Just the naive thinking of a 13 yr. old.
Posted By: Old_Toot Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
Wabi if you really want to know read “The Life and Times of A Mafia Kingfish “
Posted By: JamesJr Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
8th grade.........principal announced it over the speaker.
Posted By: copperking81 Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
Democrats have a history of shooting sitting US Presidents. Starting with Abe Lincoln.
Posted By: Jackson_Handy Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
That was the day the real deep state took over the country...
Posted By: Old_Toot Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy
That was the day the real deep state took over the country...



You’ve made a good point with that, JH.

The Great Society followed closely on the heels of the event,
Posted By: Ranger99 Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
Probably napping and filling up my diaper.
Just a WAG, don't know for sure
Posted By: JSTUART Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20


Don't really care that much...but I have to wonder if he met Hillary.
Posted By: Miss_Lynn Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
I was 2 Years, 3 Months, and 26 Days old, so I am not quite sure where I was, but just for the hell of it I am going to ask my Mom when I get the chance.

Lynn
Posted By: 358WCF Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
I was in 3rd grade. The principal announced it over the intercom. The teacher grabbed her chest like she was having a heart attack. I was hoping... I didn't get along with the old bat.
Posted By: Miss_Lynn Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
Originally Posted by 358WCF
I was in 3rd grade. The principal announced it over the intercom. The teacher grabbed her chest like she was having a heart attack. I was hoping... I didn't get along with the old bat.


grin laugh crazy

Thank you for the laughter.

Miss Lynn
Posted By: Poconojack Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20

Friday afternoon, had played hookey and gone rabbit hunting with my .410.
Posted By: wahoo Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
lee harvey oswald in the school building with a cheap rifle.

i was in high school. none of the teachers broke down and we weren't released early. have been hearing ever more complicated theories about who, why etc.

vincent bugliosi wrote a good book detailing all the various conspiracies. wasn't sensational so didn't sell many copies. it was a real doorstop.

most conspiracy stories presume a level of competency and ability to keep secrets that is remarkable.
Posted By: Old_Toot Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
The thread is “Who” , not where were you,,,
Grins

Playing with my pecker as I recall.

I never had many toys as a young’n. Had to make do.
Posted By: OldmanoftheSea Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
Mugabe Clinton.
Zero handed her the cartridges.
Posted By: dale06 Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
I was in a one room country school in west central Ks, with about 15 kids total in eight grades. I was in 6th grade. The phone rang, which was very rare. Teacher answered and listened for a minute. The teacher hung up and told us kids what happened. Parents started showing up shortly to pick up their kids.
Posted By: sse Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
who shot JR
Posted By: TheLastLemming76 Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
I was born in 76’. I’ve heard a lot of the conspiracies but honestly I have no idea. Maybe it went down as the media and government says it did and maybe there was a lot more to it. Having not been alive at the time and not looked into it a whole lot it’s hard for me to put it into context the way someone that was alive and lived through it can.

Similar to 358WCF’s teacher, my mom’s teacher walked into the room crying and announced that the president had been shot.
Posted By: wabigoon Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
A dark day for the country, no two ways about it.
Posted By: louiethedrifter Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
I was playing in the ditch with 3 other kids on Horn Road Matagorda County Texas.
Posted By: mike_e_miller Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
I was siting in 8th grade home room when the teacher announced. Watch the news and never did understand why they said only Oswald. I saw people running toward the knoll and smoke drifting in the area.
My though J.Edgar Hoover was behind it because Kennedy was going to stop him.
Posted By: Old_Toot Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
Originally Posted by mike_e_miller
I was siting in 8th grade home room when the teacher announced. Watch the news and never did understand why they said only Oswald. I saw people running toward the knoll and smoke drifting in the area.
My though J.Edgar Hoover was behind it because Kennedy was going to stop him.


J. Edgar had enough on John and Bobby that they couldn’t touch him.
Posted By: TheLastLemming76 Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
Originally Posted by wabigoon
As I've said John Kennedy was the last Democrat president I thought much of.

Personal life aside my take on Kennedy is that he was patriotic and had the good of the country at heart. In that sense he probably wasn’t unlike Trump.
Posted By: 458Win Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
I was in 9th grade day dreaming in class literally about just how easy it would be to shoot the president from a distant building when the classroom intercom announced the president had been shot and killed ! Everyone was in shock and I felt guilty! Every time I have told this story I still feel a twinge of guilt just for thinking about it.
But after learning about the details and hearing the press discounting the story of Oswald being the shooter because it was difficult to work a bolt action that fast, especially as the Carcano carbine was a POS. I knew better than that as I had a Carcano that I had shot a lot and the distance was pretty close.
Posted By: Jackson_Handy Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy
That was the day the real deep state took over the country...



You’ve made a good point with that, JH.

The Great Society followed closely on the heels of the event,


So did a bunch of regime change wars that enriched the military industrial complex that ol' Ike warned about just a few yrs prior.

Face it folks, JFK was a hard coup by the intelligence community. Trump snuck up on them the 1st time...
Posted By: Old_Toot Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy
That was the day the real deep state took over the country...



You’ve made a good point with that, JH.

The Great Society followed closely on the heels of the event,


So did a bunch of regime change wars that enriched the military industrial complex that ol' Ike warned about just a few yrs prior.

Face it folks, JFK was a hard coup by the intelligence community. Trump snuck up on them the 1st time...


Yessir.
Posted By: Happy_Camper Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
Richard,

2 Separate sources
Over a weekend I spoke to and mostly listened to the author of a book on the subject. He was a famous investigator of the crime.
Let me know if you are interested.

Next, there's literally hours of interviews with the son of the character that the mission impossible movies and series was based. The man was about to die, so he wanted to admit details about the crime to his son. Who was the man? Ethan Hunt.

Posted By: Papag Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
Working third shift at the Farmall foundry in Moline, Il. Roommate woke me up and said, Kennedys been shot. Unreal.
Posted By: Pharmseller Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
Crapping my diaper in Wurzburg, West Germany. Seven weeks old.



P
Posted By: jdm953 Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
Originally Posted by LeroyBeans
Originally Posted by copperking81
Lee Harvey Oswald was a modern day Bernie Bro. No different than any other democrat voter of today or of that day.


Really? I can't keep up with the levels of dumbfuckery around here. Oswald is no different than any other democrat voter? Has there been a rash of presidential assassinations that I'm not aware of? In what way was Oswald the same as any democrat voter?

This is even stupider than TreeMutt's thread.

Oswald was just one more left wing lunatic. The Democratic Party is full of them.
Posted By: Craigster Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
Other than that, how was the Dallas trip, Jackie ?
Posted By: EdM Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
Originally Posted by wabigoon
Fifty-seven yeas ago. Remember where you were when you heard about it?

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The day of my parents 10th wedding anniversary.
Posted By: Cretch Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
First grade class room. Intercom started going off in the hallway, which was rare. The teacher went out into the hall to listen, then came in and announced what happened. I remember coming home from church on Sunday and watching Oswald get shot on live TV.
Posted By: Blacktail308 Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
I had just turned 3. I remember my mom and two of the other moms in my neighborhood running back and forth to everyone’s homes telling them the news. They were all crying. I didn’t understand what was going on but I knew it was big.
Posted By: bigsqueeze Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
Was it Lee Oswald firing from the TSBD?? Was it James Files firing from the grassy knoll using his Remington Fireball?? Was a man firing while hiding under the storm drain cover on the sidewalk?? Was it Frank Sturgis from the 2nd floor of the Dal-Tex building?? Was Malcomb Wallace (LBJ's hitman) on the 6th floor of the TSBD. His latent pinky finger print was found on a cardboard box in the snipers nest; a 34 point match. See Men Who Killed Kennedy part 9.

If only a competent and thorough autopsy had been performed in Dallas by then forensic pathologist at Parkland Dr. Earl Rose.
Posted By: GeoW Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
Which shot?
Posted By: Idaho_Shooter Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
Who?

It was not a crazed act of a lone gunman!

Had it been LHO would not have had to die before he could speak. The killer of LHO would not have had to be a terminally ill cancer patient. Bobby Kennedy would not have had to die before he could be elected to disclose the real actors. And lastly, the discoveries of all official investigations would not have had to be locked away for all eternity, or until the contents of all the boxes mysteriously disappear, whichever comes first.

In the early 60s, young unemployed men with very little income did not go flitting around the globe on airlines, back and forth to Russia and Cuba. LHO was on somone's payroll and had been for years,

Had it been the mob, as many suggest, the investigative reports could have been released at the time. They certainly could have been released by Trump a couple years ago.

That just leaves US Government agents. John and Bobby were gung ho about busting the CIA back to a tiny shadow of its former self. CIA equals deep state, then and now.

No doubt in my mind, CIA orchestrated the killing of John, then LHO, and then Bobby.
Posted By: GRIZZ Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
We had already moved to So Cal from Parkersburg West Virginia where I met JFK as a child in 1960. I was in Kindergarten when assassination took place they sent us home. I've always had an interest in the assassination. I believe Bugliosi gets it right in his book Reclaiming History where he debunks all the BS. Lee Harvey Oswald shot John Kennedy. Three shots fired in a little over eight seconds the fist shot was a miss he rushed the shot as the Limousine passed behind a tree right after turning left onto Elm Street. Oswald did all the shooting that day. I believe the Soviet's put him up to it and the CIA got wind of it and just let it happen...
Posted By: HawkI Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
Originally Posted by LeroyBeans
Originally Posted by copperking81
Lee Harvey Oswald was a modern day Bernie Bro. No different than any other democrat voter of today or of that day.


Really? I can't keep up with the levels of dumbfuckery around here. Oswald is no different than any other democrat voter? Has there been a rash of presidential assassinations that I'm not aware of? In what way was Oswald the same as any democrat voter?

This is even stupider than TreeMutt's thread.

Commie you dumbphuck....commie.
You know, the douchebags burning cities because of all the fascists (which happen to have been socialists).
Bernie is a self avowed socialist who honeymooned in the communist USSR. Everything makes sense.

Get your schidt together commie/socialist douchebag....
Posted By: the_shootist Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
Who shot JFK?

It wasn't me. I got an alibi. Playing volleyball in Grade 8 at lunch. I have witnesses that saw me

grin.
Posted By: HawkI Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
Originally Posted by 458Win
I was in 9th grade day dreaming in class literally about just how easy it would be to shoot the president from a distant building when the classroom intercom announced the president had been shot and killed ! Everyone was in shock and I felt guilty! Every time I have told this story I still feel a twinge of guilt just for thinking about it.
But after learning about the details and hearing the press discounting the story of Oswald being the shooter because it was difficult to work a bolt action that fast, especially as the Carcano carbine was a POS. I knew better than that as I had a Carcano that I had shot a lot and the distance was pretty close.


Jeez Phil...

Of course knowing and facts shouldnt be cause for pause (some were brought up that way), its kind of eerie when so many are clueless on matters like such.
The recent usurpation of the republic and what happens next comes to mind...
Posted By: stevelyn Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
Given the revealed douchebaggery of the current CIA, I'm inclined to think they weren't much different back then.

JFK was about to schittcan the Feral Reserve Bank. Doing so would have cut into the Empire of the United States' excuses and abilities to wage useless foreign wars, which would have also reduced the CIA's size and usefulness.
Posted By: Bristoe Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
People were much more naive about government back in 1963. If the same event happened today most people would suspect the government first.
Posted By: lastround Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20

This is probably the biggest cover-up in world history. We will never know for sure if Oswald had anything to do with the assassination or who did. And we will never know who had it done. I was in my second year of college, and heard about it on the radio in my dorm room while studying for my next class, which was cancelled.
Posted By: Leanwolf Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
Originally Posted by 458Win
" ... But after learning about the details and hearing the press discounting the story of Oswald being the shooter because it was difficult to work a bolt action that fast, especially as the Carcano carbine was a POS. ... "


Those who postulate that are ignorant of the fact that Oswald started with a cartridge already chambered. He had only to throw the bolt twice. Not hard to do.

L.W.
Posted By: GRIZZ Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
Originally Posted by Leanwolf
Originally Posted by 458Win
" ... But after learning about the details and hearing the press discounting the story of Oswald being the shooter because it was difficult to work a bolt action that fast, especially as the Carcano carbine was a POS. ... "


Those who postulate that are ignorant of the fact that Oswald started with a cartridge already chambered. He had only to throw the bolt twice. Not hard to do.

L.W.

This... Eight seconds
Posted By: Bristoe Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
Originally Posted by Leanwolf
Originally Posted by 458Win
" ... But after learning about the details and hearing the press discounting the story of Oswald being the shooter because it was difficult to work a bolt action that fast, especially as the Carcano carbine was a POS. ... "


Those who postulate that are ignorant of the fact that Oswald started with a cartridge already chambered. He had only to throw the bolt twice. Not hard to do.

L.W.


Yeah,..but the biggest trick Oswald pulled off was hitting JFK in the forehead while being behind him.

Zapruder film frame 313.
Posted By: Idaho_Shooter Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
Lots of WW I and WW II vets from a myriad of nations would be VERY surprised to learn that it might be difficult to fire three aimed shots from a bolt rifle in eight seconds.

That is not where the story falls apart.
Posted By: Malcolm Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
Grade 6 small town in Northern. B.C. just before recess. loudspeaker above teacher's head principal broke in out of nowhere and made the announcement. A short time passed , then we were let out on the school grounds .

53 years later I called up my best friend and asked him if he knew what day it was. His answer ; " This is the day they shot John F. Kennedy."
Posted By: Ranger99 Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
Originally Posted by TheLastLemming76
I was born in 76’. I’ve heard a lot of the conspiracies but honestly I have no idea. . . . Having not been alive at the time and not looked into it a whole lot it’s hard for me to put it into context the way someone that was alive and lived through it can.



Don't feel too bad about it.
There's not anyone else posting or reading this
that knows any more facts than any other person.
I've seen boxes of papers from the FOIA, and they're
all so redacted that a genius couldn't make any
sense of it all.
If you really knew every factual tidbit, what could
you do about it? Not one thing. . .
Posted By: Broffesor11 Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
Originally Posted by nyrifleman
One less Democrat politician.

A good start.

But he was Pro 2A.
Posted By: sandcritter Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter
Who?

It was not a crazed act of a lone gunman!

Had it been LHO would not have had to die before he could speak. The killer of LHO would not have had to be a terminally ill cancer patient. Bobby Kennedy would not have had to die before he could be elected to disclose the real actors. And lastly, the discoveries of all official investigations would not have had to be locked away for all eternity, or until the contents of all the boxes mysteriously disappear, whichever comes first.

In the early 60s, young unemployed men with very little income did not go flitting around the globe on airlines, back and forth to Russia and Cuba. LHO was on somone's payroll and had been for years,

Had it been the mob, as many suggest, the investigative reports could have been released at the time. They certainly could have been released by Trump a couple years ago.

That just leaves US Government agents. John and Bobby were gung ho about busting the CIA back to a tiny shadow of its former self. CIA equals deep state, then and now.

No doubt in my mind, CIA orchestrated the killing of John, then LHO, and then Bobby.



Idaho Shooter,
Am 44, and puzzle over pretty much the same points. I don’t find it hard to believe oswald could pull off the shooting, nor that he in fact did it. Rather it’s the long list of contextual and coincidental oddities, any one of which could have been happenstance, but there’s a lot of them. There’s more to the story, unknown to history, that gives me pause. What is that story, and is in consequential maybe profoundly so, or it it merely curious? I think focussing on the shooting itself is a bit of a canard, really.
Posted By: Ramdiesel Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
Originally Posted by LeroyBeans
Originally Posted by copperking81
Lee Harvey Oswald was a modern day Bernie Bro. No different than any other democrat voter of today or of that day.


Really? I can't keep up with the levels of dumbfuckery around here. Oswald is no different than any other democrat voter? Has there been a rash of presidential assassinations that I'm not aware of? In what way was Oswald the same as any democrat voter?

This is even stupider than TreeMutt's thread.


The secret service was a much different organization back in JFK's day...It was a bunch of young dudes that weren't well trained...A couple of them were interviewed for a documentary and discussed how under qualified and under trained and a little too trusting they all were. The organization got really serious after the JFK shooting.

You really think Trump could have survived the last 4 years if the secret service did as stupid as crap as they did back then? Like having a President drive through a major city with high rise buildings in a convertible...Not to bright...It's not that there aren't a lot of fruitcake DEMs out there that want to see him harmed, it's that it wouldn't be easy at all to do it...
Posted By: Sprint11 Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
Oswald shot JFK, of that I have no doubt. But he did not act alone, and he probably wasn't the only shot

He just HAPPENED to work in the building JFK drove past. He had only worked there for a couple months. Yet he somehow had enough foreknowledge of the President's schedule, which wasn't published to the extent it is today, to allow him to build a nest, plan and practice his shot, and the motorcade just HAPPENED to slow and take the exact route that would afford Oswald the opportunity.

If JFK had been shot at a speech, on a podium, or somewhere else that was publicized or that would allow for some advance prep, I'd by that Oswald was alone.

But there are too many "just happened to be" for Oswald to have been a lone gunman.
Posted By: Rustyzipper Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
I was in a sixth grade classroom. I saw another answer to the question. The first shot was Oswald and the last shot was one of the security guys in the car behind Kennedy. There is no magic bullet that can do all that damage from the moving angles of the motorcade. There was also a traffic light that was run down, with a bullet strike, the one that was in Dealey Plaza that day. It was in line for the last shot LHO would have made. The name of the SS guy who did the ND shot was given. They covered it up quite well and closed ranks around him through his retirement. It always leads to more questions to hear these theories. Be Well, RZ.
Posted By: NEBHUNTER Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
James Files
Posted By: RJY66 Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
Originally Posted by nyrifleman
One less Democrat politician.

A good start.



I understand the way you feel.

However, though I was born 2 years after he was killed, from what little I know about JFK, sounds like he had little in common with today's Democrats who are essentially communists.

JFK stood up to the Soviet Union when they tried to install nukes in Cuba. Today's Democrat party essentially IS the Soviet Union.

JFK cut taxes. No Democrat/Communist today is ever going to do that.

Evidently JFK was not a fan of the Federal Reserve. Both parties are fans of the Federal Reserve today.

No gun grabs under JFK that I know of.

I think CNN would call JFK a "far right radical" today.
Posted By: granitestate1 Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
Originally Posted by NEBHUNTER
James Files


Yes there is something to that, on the same note he is out of prison.
Posted By: 257_X_50 Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
81 yards.....
Posted By: arkypete Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
An interesting topic of conversation while sitting at the reloading bench, like who was the better batter Micky Mantle or Roger Marris. Equally useless as 'who was Jack The Ripper'
Posted By: IndyCA35 Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
Originally Posted by RJY66
Originally Posted by nyrifleman
One less Democrat politician.

A good start.



I understand the way you feel.

However, though I was born 2 years after he was killed, from what little I know about JFK, sounds like he had little in common with today's Democrats who are essentially communists.

JFK stood up to the Soviet Union when they tried to install nukes in Cuba. Today's Democrat party essentially IS the Soviet Union.

JFK cut taxes. No Democrat/Communist today is ever going to do that.

Evidently JFK was not a fan of the Federal Reserve. Both parties are fans of the Federal Reserve today.

No gun grabs under JFK that I know of.

I think CNN would call JFK a "far right radical" today.


You got that right. Also, JFK was a member of he NRA. In those days the NRA, cooperation with the government, sold surplus rifles and pistols to its members. JFK bought an M1 Garand to use as protection on his boat.
Posted By: wabigoon Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
If being seriously injured and saving lives of crewmen make a hero, the JFK was a war hero.
Posted By: TNrifleman Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
I was in the fifth grade. They sent us home early.
Posted By: slumlord Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
Last week it was who shot JR

This week it’s who shot JFK
Posted By: bkraft Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
"I was in a one room country school in west central Ks, with about 15 kids total in eight grades. I was in 6th grade. The phone rang, which was very rare. Teacher answered and listened for a minute. The teacher hung up and told us kids what happened. Parents started showing up shortly to pick up their kids."

This almost EXACTLY my remembrance, 1st grade in a two-room school in South Central Ks, phone rings Mrs. Grant walks in crying, tells Mrs Hoops both classes go out to the flag pole sing he National Anthem the older boys lower and fold the colors, and I walk home. A typical day in November clear, windy, cool.
Posted By: deflave Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
I'm pretty convinced that the mob whacked JFK and his brother, and Oswald.

They keep it under wraps because the world's largest superpower doesn't want to admit that a bunch of dirty ass Italians put the president in place, and had him killed when he didn't maintain his part of the deal.
Posted By: rickt300 Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter
Who?

It was not a crazed act of a lone gunman!

Had it been LHO would not have had to die before he could speak. The killer of LHO would not have had to be a terminally ill cancer patient. Bobby Kennedy would not have had to die before he could be elected to disclose the real actors. And lastly, the discoveries of all official investigations would not have had to be locked away for all eternity, or until the contents of all the boxes mysteriously disappear, whichever comes first.

In the early 60s, young unemployed men with very little income did not go flitting around the globe on airlines, back and forth to Russia and Cuba. LHO was on somone's payroll and had been for years,

Had it been the mob, as many suggest, the investigative reports could have been released at the time. They certainly could have been released by Trump a couple years ago.

That just leaves US Government agents. John and Bobby were gung ho about busting the CIA back to a tiny shadow of its former self. CIA equals deep state, then and now.

No doubt in my mind, CIA orchestrated the killing of John, then LHO, and then Bobby.


I have to agee, how otherwise would Oswald have known to get a job with the perfect view to shoot Kennedy months before the parade was planned? I also agree Oswald was a patsy.
Posted By: ol_mike Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
Originally Posted by RJY66
Originally Posted by nyrifleman
One less Democrat politician.

A good start.



I understand the way you feel.

However, though I was born 2 years after he was killed, from what little I know about JFK, sounds like he had little in common with today's Democrats who are essentially communists.

JFK stood up to the Soviet Union when they tried to install nukes in Cuba. Today's Democrat party essentially IS the Soviet Union.

JFK cut taxes. No Democrat/Communist today is ever going to do that.

Evidently JFK was not a fan of the Federal Reserve. Both parties are fans of the Federal Reserve today.

No gun grabs under JFK that I know of.

I think CNN would call JFK a "far right radical" today.


Agree , listen to JFK speech about the globalist - military industrial complex - might have to listen twice the man had quite the vocabulary . JFK was curtailing a lot of these world communist [modern day KINGS] BS and they didn't like it to the point that they had him killed through the deep state which they fully control . The people in the cia/fbi/nsa/etc./etc. ARE NOT the rulers - they answer to the world controllers/families who've been in power for hundreds of years , and , will stay in power one way or the other .

I've never been able to come a decision in my mind on the Federal Reserve writings pertaining to JFK . Too many different stories , which is a tactic of the communist , a way to camouflage the facts .
Posted By: ol_mike Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
Originally Posted by Sprint11
Oswald shot JFK, of that I have no doubt. But he did not act alone, and he probably wasn't the only shot

He just HAPPENED to work in the building JFK drove past. He had only worked there for a couple months. Yet he somehow had enough foreknowledge of the President's schedule, which wasn't published to the extent it is today, to allow him to build a nest, plan and practice his shot, and the motorcade just HAPPENED to slow and take the exact route that would afford Oswald the opportunity.

If JFK had been shot at a speech, on a podium, or somewhere else that was publicized or that would allow for some advance prep, I'd by that Oswald was alone.

But there are too many "just happened to be" for Oswald to have been a lone gunman.


- LIKE .
Posted By: Old_Toot Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
Originally Posted by deflave
I'm pretty convinced that the mob whacked JFK and his brother, and Oswald.

They keep it under wraps because the world's largest superpower doesn't want to admit that a bunch of dirty ass Italians put the president in place, and had him killed when he didn't maintain his part of the deal.


This.

“The Life and Times of a Mafia Kingfish “

Bobby Kennedy should not have kidnapped Carlos Marcello and his brother then flying them down to South America landing on a remote road and leaving them there with only the clothes on their backs and telling both “don’t come back “.

From that the Marcellos engaged with the Traficantes in Florida to put things in motion to do the deed on both Kennedy brothers.

Many players and Jim Garrison corralled a few but missed on the big putt.
Posted By: ol_mike Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
What do you folks think President Trumps knows about the JFK BKennedy killings ?

What is the insiders info. ??
Posted By: deflave Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
Originally Posted by ol_mike
What do you folks think President Trumps knows about the JFK BKennedy killings ?

What is the insiders info. ??


I think every President gets the same speech.

"If you let everybody know that a bunch of greasy ass italians put Kennedy in power, then killed him and his brother, and got away with it, you are going to greatly diminish your chances of surviving the next four years."
Posted By: Rock Chuck Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
I was in a high school Spanish class. Our teacher had run to the office for something and she came back with the news that he'd been shot but was still alive. They announced it over the PA shortly after that. A half hour later, I saw the ROTC lowering the flag to half mast.

I've been trying ever since to get my hands on some of Oswald's trick bullets that go through something then move sideways to go through something else. I've always thought they'd be great for hunting a timber to shoot a deer behind a tree.
Posted By: SPQR70AD Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
people make a hero out of JFK but he stole the election was a meth and opium addict and made a total fool of his wife. him and his brother might have gotten rid of marilyn monroe. JFK was ready to sign the immigration reform act aka the white genocide act but was shot. JBJ quickly signed it
Posted By: Old_Toot Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by ol_mike
What do you folks think President Trumps knows about the JFK BKennedy killings ?

What is the insiders info. ??


I think every President gets the same speech.

"If you let everybody know that a bunch of greasy ass italians put Kennedy in power, then killed him and his brother, and got away with it, you are going to greatly diminish your chances of surviving the next four years."





Those pertinent documents (all) were eligible to be unsealed and made public at the 50 year mark .

But no.
Posted By: SPQR70AD Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
Originally Posted by deflave
I'm pretty convinced that the mob whacked JFK and his brother, and Oswald.

They keep it under wraps because the world's largest superpower doesn't want to admit that a bunch of dirty ass Italians put the president in place, and had him killed when he didn't maintain his part of the deal.

yea a bunch of dirty ass Italians killed a white hating irish bas tard JFK. that includes his brothers. many irish in politics hate white people like gov murphy of NJ. if the Italians killed him I am glad they did. but more likely the CIA along with pissrael did it
Posted By: memtb Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
Originally Posted by deflave
I'm pretty convinced that the mob whacked JFK and his brother, and Oswald.

They keep it under wraps because the world's largest superpower doesn't want to admit that a bunch of dirty ass Italians put the president in place, and had him killed when he didn't maintain his part of the deal.




In collusion with our own CIA! memtb
Posted By: memtb Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by deflave
I'm pretty convinced that the mob whacked JFK and his brother, and Oswald.

They keep it under wraps because the world's largest superpower doesn't want to admit that a bunch of dirty ass Italians put the president in place, and had him killed when he didn't maintain his part of the deal.


This.

“The Life and Times of a Mafia Kingfish “

Bobby Kennedy should not have kidnapped Carlos Marcello and his brother then flying them down to South America landing on a remote road and leaving them there with only the clothes on their backs and telling both “don’t come back “.

From that the Marcellos engaged with the Traficantes in Florida to put things in motion to do the deed on both Kennedy brothers.

Many players and Jim Garrison corralled a few but missed on the big putt.



You nailed it! Jim Garrison gets nothing but ridicule for his investigation, but IMO, has the most accurate, plausible explanations of the actual events leading up to and following the assassination ! memtb
Posted By: smokepole Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
Originally Posted by ol_mike
What do you folks think President Trumps knows about the JFK BKennedy killings ?

What is the insiders info. ??


It was connected to the Dominion servers, for sure.
Posted By: Old_Toot Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
H
Originally Posted by SPQR70AD
Originally Posted by deflave
I'm pretty convinced that the mob whacked JFK and his brother, and Oswald.

They keep it under wraps because the world's largest superpower doesn't want to admit that a bunch of dirty ass Italians put the president in place, and had him killed when he didn't maintain his part of the deal.

yea a bunch of dirty ass Italians killed a white hating irish bas tard JFK. that includes his brothers. many irish in politics hate white people like gov murphy of NJ. if the Italians killed him I am glad they did. but more likely the CIA along with pissrael did it


How did the Israelis figure into this?
Posted By: smokepole Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
They control the Italians.
Posted By: deflave Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
This dude is one of the more legit'er mafioso's to ever speak.

Posted By: Idaho_Shooter Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
Originally Posted by SPQR70AD
Originally Posted by deflave
I'm pretty convinced that the mob whacked JFK and his brother, and Oswald.

They keep it under wraps because the world's largest superpower doesn't want to admit that a bunch of dirty ass Italians put the president in place, and had him killed when he didn't maintain his part of the deal.

yea a bunch of dirty ass Italians killed a white hating irish bas tard JFK. that includes his brothers. many irish in politics hate white people like gov murphy of NJ. if the Italians killed him I am glad they did. but more likely the CIA along with pissrael did it

Irish are a white hating minority? Jews are a white hating minority?

Where in the fug does one have to originate from to actually be white in that infinitesimal cluster of neurons you call a mind?

Would the Caucasus Mountains even qualify?
Posted By: jorgeI Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
Winner of the drawing kooks to a thread like flies around horseshit
Posted By: BtailHunter Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
Pontius Pilate
Posted By: 30Gibbs Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
Originally Posted by ol_mike
Originally Posted by RJY66
Originally Posted by nyrifleman
One less Democrat politician.

A good start.



I understand the way you feel.

However, though I was born 2 years after he was killed, from what little I know about JFK, sounds like he had little in common with today's Democrats who are essentially communists.

JFK stood up to the Soviet Union when they tried to install nukes in Cuba. Today's Democrat party essentially IS the Soviet Union.

JFK cut taxes. No Democrat/Communist today is ever going to do that.

Evidently JFK was not a fan of the Federal Reserve. Both parties are fans of the Federal Reserve today.

No gun grabs under JFK that I know of.

I think CNN would call JFK a "far right radical" today.


Agree , listen to JFK speech about the globalist - military industrial complex - might have to listen twice the man had quite the vocabulary . JFK was curtailing a lot of these world communist [modern day KINGS] BS and they didn't like it to the point that they had him killed through the deep state which they fully control . The people in the cia/fbi/nsa/etc./etc. ARE NOT the rulers - they answer to the world controllers/families who've been in power for hundreds of years , and , will stay in power one way or the other .

I've never been able to come a decision in my mind on the Federal Reserve writings pertaining to JFK . Too many different stories , which is a tactic of the communist , a way to camouflage the facts .




JFK started issuing silver certificate notes as currency, each bill backed by US held silver. This would not allow the MID complex to implement their plan so JFK was neutralized.
Posted By: Pharmseller Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
JFK was a better Republican than most Republicans these days.




P
Posted By: Daveinjax Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
I certainly don’t believe the official narrative. The magic bullet theory is completely unbelievable , Oswald is an implausible figure , and all ends were cleaned up way too neatly. Oswald being killed by a terminally ill man before he could say a word and Bobby being murdered also before he could get into position to pursue justice for his brother all are way too convenient. My best guess is the Mob/CIA cooperated to kill JFK. I love my country but fear and loathe our government.
Posted By: Daveinjax Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
Originally Posted by Pharmseller
JFK was a better Republican than most Republicans these days.




P

This is way too true !
Posted By: Morewood Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
Originally Posted by Daveinjax
... I love my country but fear and loathe our government.


Truth
Posted By: JoeBob Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
In “I Heard You Paint Houses” he expressed his belief that it was a mob deal and that there were enough veiled references to it within mob circles that it was pretty well known therein. He also said that Ruby was actually a pretty trusted mob associate. And the. He talked about other instances where the mob had used lone nuts when they wanted to carry out a bit that would be pretty high profile of non mob guys. It was fairly convincing.
Posted By: SPQR70AD Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
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Originally Posted by SPQR70AD
Originally Posted by deflave
I'm pretty convinced that the mob whacked JFK and his brother, and Oswald.

They keep it under wraps because the world's largest superpower doesn't want to admit that a bunch of dirty ass Italians put the president in place, and had him killed when he didn't maintain his part of the deal.

yea a bunch of dirty ass Italians killed a white hating irish bas tard JFK. that includes his brothers. many irish in politics hate white people like gov murphy of NJ. if the Italians killed him I am glad they did. but more likely the CIA along with pissrael did it


How did the Israelis figure into this?

as a jew I know you are lying not knowing the facts. JFK wanted to close dimona nuke site. he made that a top priority. the only thing he done right was to predict when that shi tty little country got nukes they would blackmail the world. look up the samson option where they brag they have targeted EVERY european capital
Posted By: SPQR70AD Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
Originally Posted by Daveinjax
Originally Posted by Pharmseller
JFK was a better Republican than most Republicans these days.




P

This is way too true !

todays conservatives would have been called communists in that era.
but kennedy and his brothers hated white people and JFK was ready to sign the white genocide act called imm reform act
Posted By: SPQR70AD Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter
Originally Posted by SPQR70AD
Originally Posted by deflave
I'm pretty convinced that the mob whacked JFK and his brother, and Oswald.

They keep it under wraps because the world's largest superpower doesn't want to admit that a bunch of dirty ass Italians put the president in place, and had him killed when he didn't maintain his part of the deal.

yea a bunch of dirty ass Italians killed a white hating irish bas tard JFK. that includes his brothers. many irish in politics hate white people like gov murphy of NJ. if the Italians killed him I am glad they did. but more likely the CIA along with pissrael did it

Irish are a white hating minority? Jews are a white hating minority?

Where in the fug does one have to originate from to actually be white in that infinitesimal cluster of neurons you call a mind?

Would the Caucasus Mountains even qualify?

yes both groups are. the irish guys I knew in NYC did not hate whites but the ones in power did. Tip the bottle O'Neil was another. you see idiotic people like you who refuse to see the enemy here in the US and focus on a guy living in a mud hut 6K miles away is the reason the country went from 92% white to 59% white and the US cannot be saved. so you keep focusing on manufactured enemies abroad as the country goes brown and turns into south afreaka
Posted By: smokepole Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
Originally Posted by Daveinjax
I love my country but fear and loathe our government.



Have you been to Las Vegas?
Posted By: Old_Toot Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
Originally Posted by jorgeI
Winner of the drawing kooks to a thread like flies around horseshit



Welcome Brother Blowfly !

Grins
Posted By: Old_Toot Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
Originally Posted by SPQR70AD
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
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Originally Posted by SPQR70AD
Originally Posted by deflave
I'm pretty convinced that the mob whacked JFK and his brother, and Oswald.

They keep it under wraps because the world's largest superpower doesn't want to admit that a bunch of dirty ass Italians put the president in place, and had him killed when he didn't maintain his part of the deal.

yea a bunch of dirty ass Italians killed a white hating irish bas tard JFK. that includes his brothers. many irish in politics hate white people like gov murphy of NJ. if the Italians killed him I am glad they did. but more likely the CIA along with pissrael did it


How did the Israelis figure into this?

as a jew I know you are lying not knowing the facts. JFK wanted to close dimona nuke site. he made that a top priority. the only thing he done right was to predict when that shi tty little country got nukes they would blackmail the world. look up the samson option where they brag they have targeted EVERY european capital



From that you might deduce that next time there won’t be any boxcars and the taking of scchitt off of the likes of yourself won’t be a part of “the new deal”.

Throw your best punch.

BYW, Israel has the nukes in case you missed that.
Posted By: SPQR70AD Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by SPQR70AD
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
H
Originally Posted by SPQR70AD
Originally Posted by deflave
I'm pretty convinced that the mob whacked JFK and his brother, and Oswald.

They keep it under wraps because the world's largest superpower doesn't want to admit that a bunch of dirty ass Italians put the president in place, and had him killed when he didn't maintain his part of the deal.

yea a bunch of dirty ass Italians killed a white hating irish bas tard JFK. that includes his brothers. many irish in politics hate white people like gov murphy of NJ. if the Italians killed him I am glad they did. but more likely the CIA along with pissrael did it


How did the Israelis figure into this?

as a jew I know you are lying not knowing the facts. JFK wanted to close dimona nuke site. he made that a top priority. the only thing he done right was to predict when that shi tty little country got nukes they would blackmail the world. look up the samson option where they brag they have targeted EVERY european capital



From that you might deduce that next time there won’t be any boxcars and the taking of scchitt off of the likes of yourself won’t be a part of “the new deal”.

Throw your best punch.

BYW, Israel has the nukes in case you missed that.

they stole everything they got mr fecalstein and they just started working on them during JFK's time. so as a demonic jew you get off on all European capitals being targeted by pissrael?
Posted By: Old_Toot Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
Originally Posted by SPQR70AD
Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter
Originally Posted by SPQR70AD
Originally Posted by deflave
I'm pretty convinced that the mob whacked JFK and his brother, and Oswald.

They keep it under wraps because the world's largest superpower doesn't want to admit that a bunch of dirty ass Italians put the president in place, and had him killed when he didn't maintain his part of the deal.

yea a bunch of dirty ass Italians killed a white hating irish bas tard JFK. that includes his brothers. many irish in politics hate white people like gov murphy of NJ. if the Italians killed him I am glad they did. but more likely the CIA along with pissrael did it

Irish are a white hating minority? Jews are a white hating minority?

Where in the fug does one have to originate from to actually be white in that infinitesimal cluster of neurons you call a mind?

Would the Caucasus Mountains even qualify?

yes both groups are. the irish guys I knew in NYC did not hate whites but the ones in power did. Tip the bottle O'Neil was another. you see idiotic people like you who refuse to see the enemy here in the US and focus on a guy living in a mud hut 6K miles away is the reason the country went from 92% white to 59% white and the US cannot be saved. so you keep focusing on manufactured enemies abroad as the country goes brown and turns into south afreaka



You’ve yet to come forth with:

1. Who are these Mob guys that “you know a lot of “.

2. Proof of “the fact” that 90% of all Hispanic people here in the USA are illegals.

Take a moment and address Those two if you would, please.
Posted By: Old_Toot Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
Originally Posted by SPQR70AD
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by SPQR70AD
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
H
Originally Posted by SPQR70AD
Originally Posted by deflave
I'm pretty convinced that the mob whacked JFK and his brother, and Oswald.

They keep it under wraps because the world's largest superpower doesn't want to admit that a bunch of dirty ass Italians put the president in place, and had him killed when he didn't maintain his part of the deal.

yea a bunch of dirty ass Italians killed a white hating irish bas tard JFK. that includes his brothers. many irish in politics hate white people like gov murphy of NJ. if the Italians killed him I am glad they did. but more likely the CIA along with pissrael did it


How did the Israelis figure into this?

as a jew I know you are lying not knowing the facts. JFK wanted to close dimona nuke site. he made that a top priority. the only thing he done right was to predict when that shi tty little country got nukes they would blackmail the world. look up the samson option where they brag they have targeted EVERY european capital



From that you might deduce that next time there won’t be any boxcars and the taking of scchitt off of the likes of yourself won’t be a part of “the new deal”.

Throw your best punch.

BYW, Israel has the nukes in case you missed that.

they stole everything they got mr fecalstein and they just started working on them during JFK's time. so as a demonic jew you get off on all European capitals being targeted by pissrael?



Could it be that the “theft” you mentioned was because you Goy Boys were asleep on the job or you sold out your own country?

Protecting oneself against all enemies foreign and domestic is a good solid plan just maybe because countries and their regimes tend to change over time?

I know that’s a little over your head.
Posted By: ol_mike Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
Originally Posted by smokepole
Originally Posted by Daveinjax
I love my country but fear and loathe our government.



Have you been to Las Vegas?

Thanks for the info. you've contributed .
Posted By: Bristoe Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
Up until the Zapruder film was released to the public I never thought much of the situation. I accepted the official narrative.

Then, when the film came out and I saw the violent impact hit JFK in the right side of his forehead and blow his brains all over the trunk of the limo, I knew that there had been a coup.

In the film, you see Jackie stand up and start crawling over the back of the seat towards the trunk. She was attempting to retrieve JFK brains from back there.
Posted By: 260Remguy Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
I was 8 years old in 1963 and remember that almost all of the adults were sad, lots of tears, particularly when we watched it all on black/white TV.

The story about the Mafia staging JFK's assassination makes sense to me. Claims have been made that Old Joe paid the Mafia to fix the primary in West Virginia so that JFK would beat HHH and get the nomination and then fix the general election in Illinois, mostly Chicago/Cook County, so that JFK would beat RMN. Supposedly Sam Giancana, the reputed Chicago Mafia boss, did the fixing and he was killed the night before he was scheduled to testify in Federal Court. Giancana and JFK were reputedly having concurrent affairs with the same woman, Judith Exner, while JFK was POTUS.

Jack Ruby, actually Jack Rubenstein, was reputed to be an associate of Joe Campisi, who in turn, was reputed to be a lieutenant in the Mafia family of New Orleans boss Carlo Marcello. The attorney for Florida Mafia boss Santo Trafficante, Jr., Frank Ragano, wrote about it in his book, Mob Lawyer. RFK was pushing the FBI to go after organized crime, particularly its involvement with the unions and even more so his focus was on the Teamsters and Jimmy Hoffa.
Posted By: Old_Toot Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
Originally Posted by Bristoe
Up until the Zapruder film was released to the public I never thought much of the situation. I accepted the official narrative.

Then, when the film came out and I saw the violent impact hit JFK in the right side of his forehead and blow his brains all over the trunk of the limo, I knew that there had been a coup.

In the film, you see Jackie stand up and start crawling over the back of the seat towards the trunk. She was attempting to retrieve JFK brains from back there.


And all this time people thought Jackie was trying to GTFO of there.

The Governor’s comment during the action was kinda telling in a small way.

“My G*d, they’re gonna kill all of us”.
Said with a bullet in his azz,
Posted By: 257James Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
Originally Posted by Ranger99
Probably napping and filling up my diaper


That’s what I was doing...... 7 months old 🍼🍼
Posted By: Bristoe Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
Anybody who has watched the Kyle Rittenhouse video where he shoots that Communist in the bicep,..and the bicep just vaporizes,...that's what JFKs forehead looks like when the round impacts.

His head is violently knocked back and to the left, then slowly slumps forward.
Posted By: Starman Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
Originally Posted by Bristoe

His head is violently knocked back and to the left, then slowly slumps forward.


Slow-motion, His head goes slightly forward on impact,
(around frame 315) , then springs back after impact.




Originally Posted by Bristoe

In the film, you see Jackie stand up and start crawling over the back of the seat towards the trunk. She was attempting to retrieve JFK brains from back there.


I remember it as Jackie trying to retrieve a decent
size piece of his skull.

Posted By: SPQR70AD Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by SPQR70AD
Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter
Originally Posted by SPQR70AD
Originally Posted by deflave
I'm pretty convinced that the mob whacked JFK and his brother, and Oswald.

They keep it under wraps because the world's largest superpower doesn't want to admit that a bunch of dirty ass Italians put the president in place, and had him killed when he didn't maintain his part of the deal.

yea a bunch of dirty ass Italians killed a white hating irish bas tard JFK. that includes his brothers. many irish in politics hate white people like gov murphy of NJ. if the Italians killed him I am glad they did. but more likely the CIA along with pissrael did it

Irish are a white hating minority? Jews are a white hating minority?

Where in the fug does one have to originate from to actually be white in that infinitesimal cluster of neurons you call a mind?

Would the Caucasus Mountains even qualify?

yes both groups are. the irish guys I knew in NYC did not hate whites but the ones in power did. Tip the bottle O'Neil was another. you see idiotic people like you who refuse to see the enemy here in the US and focus on a guy living in a mud hut 6K miles away is the reason the country went from 92% white to 59% white and the US cannot be saved. so you keep focusing on manufactured enemies abroad as the country goes brown and turns into south afreaka



You’ve yet to come forth with:

1. Who are these Mob guys that “you know a lot of “.

2. Proof of “the fact” that 90% of all Hispanic people here in the USA are illegals.

Take a moment and address Those two if you would, please.

when you are down in your basement smash your head on the concrete wall 30 times then get back to me. I grew up in Bklyn NY in an Italian area and knew many mob guys. bagel boy if I had the power I would send all the methicans and afreakans to pissrael. I dont have to prove nothing to a white hating communist bolshevik like you
Posted By: SPQR70AD Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by SPQR70AD
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by SPQR70AD
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
H
Originally Posted by SPQR70AD
Originally Posted by deflave
I'm pretty convinced that the mob whacked JFK and his brother, and Oswald.

They keep it under wraps because the world's largest superpower doesn't want to admit that a bunch of dirty ass Italians put the president in place, and had him killed when he didn't maintain his part of the deal.

yea a bunch of dirty ass Italians killed a white hating irish bas tard JFK. that includes his brothers. many irish in politics hate white people like gov murphy of NJ. if the Italians killed him I am glad they did. but more likely the CIA along with pissrael did it


How did the Israelis figure into this?

as a jew I know you are lying not knowing the facts. JFK wanted to close dimona nuke site. he made that a top priority. the only thing he done right was to predict when that shi tty little country got nukes they would blackmail the world. look up the samson option where they brag they have targeted EVERY european capital



From that you might deduce that next time there won’t be any boxcars and the taking of scchitt off of the likes of yourself won’t be a part of “the new deal”.

Throw your best punch.

BYW, Israel has the nukes in case you missed that.

they stole everything they got mr fecalstein and they just started working on them during JFK's time. so as a demonic jew you get off on all European capitals being targeted by pissrael?



Could it be that the “theft” you mentioned was because you Goy Boys were asleep on the job or you sold out your own country?

Protecting oneself against all enemies foreign and domestic is a good solid plan just maybe because countries and their regimes tend to change over time?

I know that’s a little over your head.

you give yourself away when you say goys sold out THEIR country (not yours) proving jews only loyal to the gay capital of the world little shi thole israel. the whole gentile world is israels enemies been like that for 3000 years as they genocided their way thru the OT
Posted By: Idaho_Shooter Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
Originally Posted by SPQR70AD
Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter

Irish are a white hating minority? Jews are a white hating minority?

Where in the fug does one have to originate from to actually be white in that infinitesimal cluster of neurons you call a mind?

Would the Caucasus Mountains even qualify?

yes both groups are. the irish guys I knew in NYC did not hate whites but the ones in power did. Tip the bottle O'Neil was another. you see idiotic people like you who refuse to see the enemy here in the US and focus on a guy living in a mud hut 6K miles away is the reason the country went from 92% white to 59% white and the US cannot be saved. so you keep focusing on manufactured enemies abroad as the country goes brown and turns into south afreaka


Quote
Guy living in a mud hut 6K miles away

What in the Holy Fugg are you blathering about?

Redheaded, blue eyed, freckle faced Irish boys and lasses are no longer white? Wow, they will be shocked to hear. How about their Welsh and Scottish cousins?

How about my Norwegian friends? Shall I give them the bad news?

My step Mom is 1'st generation American out of Finland. I think she is going to be shocked at the news that she is no longer white.

All I can guess is that your "Aryan Brotherhood" must be a tiny lot. No wonder you are concerned of being genetically overwhelmed.
Posted By: rabst Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
I used to be in the "conspiracy" camp about this. I even did a term paper in my HS government class on the subject back in 1974.

Then I read Case Closed (Gerald Posner, 1993). I've since reread it several times. Very thorough review of all of the facts.

Chapter 14, "My God, They Are Going To Kill Us All," is a particularly compelling argument in favor of "The Single Bullet."

Even if you don't want to wade through the whole tome, that chapter alone is well worth the time and effort.

Lee Harvey Oswald shot JFK.


FWIW, I was 5 years old. Don't remember that day at all!
Posted By: Bristoe Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
Originally Posted by rabst
I used to be in the "conspiracy" camp about this. I even did a term paper in my HS government class on the subject back in 1974.

Then I read Case Closed (Gerald Posner, 1993). I've since reread it several times. Very thorough review of all of the facts.

Chapter 14, "My God, They Are Going To Kill Us All," is a particularly compelling argument in favor of "The Single Bullet."

Even if you don't want to wade through the whole tome, that chapter alone is well worth the time and effort.

Lee Harvey Oswald shot JFK.


FWIW, I was 5 years old. Don't remember that day at all!


Was Posner there when it took place?
Posted By: Bristoe Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
I don't know who did it,.,...don't know why. All I know is the shot that killed JFK hit him in the right side of his forehead.

It's right there plain as day in the Zapruder film.
Posted By: Old_Toot Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
Originally Posted by SPQR70AD
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by SPQR70AD
Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter
Originally Posted by SPQR70AD
Originally Posted by deflave
I'm pretty convinced that the mob whacked JFK and his brother, and Oswald.

They keep it under wraps because the world's largest superpower doesn't want to admit that a bunch of dirty ass Italians put the president in place, and had him killed when he didn't maintain his part of the deal.

yea a bunch of dirty ass Italians killed a white hating irish bas tard JFK. that includes his brothers. many irish in politics hate white people like gov murphy of NJ. if the Italians killed him I am glad they did. but more likely the CIA along with pissrael did it

Irish are a white hating minority? Jews are a white hating minority?

Where in the fug does one have to originate from to actually be white in that infinitesimal cluster of neurons you call a mind?

Would the Caucasus Mountains even qualify?

yes both groups are. the irish guys I knew in NYC did not hate whites but the ones in power did. Tip the bottle O'Neil was another. you see idiotic people like you who refuse to see the enemy here in the US and focus on a guy living in a mud hut 6K miles away is the reason the country went from 92% white to 59% white and the US cannot be saved. so you keep focusing on manufactured enemies abroad as the country goes brown and turns into south afreaka



You’ve yet to come forth with:

1. Who are these Mob guys that “you know a lot of “.

2. Proof of “the fact” that 90% of all Hispanic people here in the USA are illegals.

Take a moment and address Those two if you would, please.

when you are down in your basement smash your head on the concrete wall 30 times then get back to me. I grew up in Bklyn NY in an Italian area and knew many mob guys. bagel boy if I had the power I would send all the methicans and afreakans to pissrael. I dont have to prove nothing to a white hating communist bolshevik like you


Show us your tattoos there big’un. Therein lies your “power”.

Actually the only power thing that you have is coming here and running your mouth.

But I do enjoy it.

Don’t forget, we got nukes. Keep that in mind.
Posted By: GRIZZ Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
Originally Posted by Bristoe
I don't know who did it,.,...don't know why. All I know is the shot that killed JFK hit him in the right side of his forehead.

It's right there plain as day in the Zapruder film.

Bullchit..Don't know exactly "what frame" but before JFK's head explodes you can se it jump forward a bit from the bullet impacting the back of his head. You can also see skull/brain matter traveling upwards and forwards another indication of a hit from behind
Oswald killed John Kennedy with two hits from behind. Simple as that.
Posted By: Old_Toot Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
Originally Posted by SPQR70AD
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by SPQR70AD
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by SPQR70AD
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
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Originally Posted by SPQR70AD
Originally Posted by deflave
I'm pretty convinced that the mob whacked JFK and his brother, and Oswald.

They keep it under wraps because the world's largest superpower doesn't want to admit that a bunch of dirty ass Italians put the president in place, and had him killed when he didn't maintain his part of the deal.

yea a bunch of dirty ass Italians killed a white hating irish bas tard JFK. that includes his brothers. many irish in politics hate white people like gov murphy of NJ. if the Italians killed him I am glad they did. but more likely the CIA along with pissrael did it


How did the Israelis figure into this?

as a jew I know you are lying not knowing the facts. JFK wanted to close dimona nuke site. he made that a top priority. the only thing he done right was to predict when that shi tty little country got nukes they would blackmail the world. look up the samson option where they brag they have targeted EVERY european capital



From that you might deduce that next time there won’t be any boxcars and the taking of scchitt off of the likes of yourself won’t be a part of “the new deal”.

Throw your best punch.

BYW, Israel has the nukes in case you missed that.

they stole everything they got mr fecalstein and they just started working on them during JFK's time. so as a demonic jew you get off on all European capitals being targeted by pissrael?



Could it be that the “theft” you mentioned was because you Goy Boys were asleep on the job or you sold out your own country?

Protecting oneself against all enemies foreign and domestic is a good solid plan just maybe because countries and their regimes tend to change over time?

I know that’s a little over your head.

you give yourself away when you say goys sold out THEIR country (not yours) proving jews only loyal to the gay capital of the world little shi thole israel. the whole gentile world is israels enemies been like that for 3000 years as they genocided their way thru the OT



It’s “our” country.

Folks like yourself are giving it away it appears,,,,you “white people”.

Did you know that “we” owned The Mayflower? A gent named Solomon, I believe and you have yet to thank us for the ride. Damned rude of you.
Posted By: Old_Toot Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
Originally Posted by GRIZZ
Originally Posted by Bristoe
I don't know who did it,.,...don't know why. All I know is the shot that killed JFK hit him in the right side of his forehead.

It's right there plain as day in the Zapruder film.

Bullchit..Don't know exactly "what frame" but before JFK's head explodes you can se it jump forward a bit from the bullet impacting the back of his head. You can also see skull/brain matter traveling upwards and forwards another indication of a hit from behind
Oswald killed John Kennedy with two hits from behind. Simple as that.


Grizz did you ever see the drawing of the path of the “magic bullet”?

Mighty interesting.
Posted By: rabst Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
JFK Autopsy Report

There was no forehead wound.
Posted By: Old_Toot Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
Originally Posted by rabst
JFK Autopsy Report

There was no forehead wound.


The bullet went upwards from the front of the throat was another speculation,
Posted By: Bristoe Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
Originally Posted by GRIZZ
Originally Posted by Bristoe
I don't know who did it,.,...don't know why. All I know is the shot that killed JFK hit him in the right side of his forehead.

It's right there plain as day in the Zapruder film.

Bullchit..Don't know exactly "what frame" but before JFK's head explodes you can se it jump forward a bit from the bullet impacting the back of his head. You can also see skull/brain matter traveling upwards and forwards another indication of a hit from behind
Oswald killed John Kennedy with two hits from behind. Simple as that.


Right forehead.

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2ywsnt
Posted By: StrayDog Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
I was in high school when the principal made the announcement over the speaker system.

This is the theory I believe the most.
Oswald shot JFK in cahoots with the mafia and paid for through Fidel Castro.
Why? Because Castro had stopped several attempts of JFK using the CIA trying to kill Castro. Castro had asked JFK to stop trying to kill him, but JFK continued and Castro was in fear for his life.

The mafia hit in Dallas would have had to be approved by Carlos Marcello of New Orleans, as Dallas was in his territory. Carlos Marcello's mob boss was Tropecante of Florida. Tropecante was the only mafia casino hotel owner in Havana to get his funds released after JFK's death. Castro's government had nationalized all of the American casinos in Cuba after the 1959 commie revolution.

The American deep state hid this from the American people because the people would have wanted war against Castro. The problem with that is a year before in 1962 when America backed Russia down in front of the whole world, it was America had to promise the Soviets that America would never again attack Castro's Cuba. Thus the cover up.
Posted By: smokepole Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
Originally Posted by ol_mike
Originally Posted by smokepole
Originally Posted by Daveinjax
I love my country but fear and loathe our government.



Have you been to Las Vegas?

Thanks for the info. you've contributed .


You're welcome. Think nothing of it.
Posted By: Starman Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
Originally Posted by GRIZZ
Originally Posted by Bristoe
....

It's right there plain as day in the Zapruder film.

Bullchit..Don't know exactly "what frame" but before JFK's head explodes you can se it jump forward a bit from the bullet impacting the back of his head. You can also see skull/brain matter traveling upwards and forwards another indication of a hit from behind.


Grizz is on the mark... the problem with Bristoe
is he doesn't want to see it.



Posted By: HuntnShoot Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
I think it was Colonel Mustard with rifle in Dealey Plaza.

Abraham Zapruder is a Jew. Hmmm. He handed over the camera to the FBI, and when he got the film back, it wasn't the film he had shot, so his son claimed.
Posted By: Bristoe Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
Originally Posted by Starman
Originally Posted by GRIZZ
Originally Posted by Bristoe
....

It's right there plain as day in the Zapruder film.

Bullchit..Don't know exactly "what frame" but before JFK's head explodes you can se it jump forward a bit from the bullet impacting the back of his head. You can also see skull/brain matter traveling upwards and forwards another indication of a hit from behind.


Grizz is on the mark... the problem with Bristoe
is he doesn't want to see it.


Okay,..so it's your opinion that JFK got shot in the back of the head with a 6.5mm centerfire rifle,...which caused his head to move forward just a very slight bit. Then, after the bullet dwelled in his head for about 3/4ths of a second, it suddenly came exploding out the front,... violently slamming his head back and to the left,...and in the process blowing his brains all over the trunk of the limo.
Posted By: Starman Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
The video shows his head moved foward
on impact, FACT not mere opinion.
Posted By: Bristoe Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
Originally Posted by Starman
The video shows his head moved foward
on impact FACT not mere opinion.


All of those "facts" were eliminated by the Zapruder film.

"Every action has an equal and opposite reaction."

Shot hits right forehead, action. Head moves back left, reaction.

It's not brain surgery,....pun intended.
Posted By: Starman Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
Originally Posted by Bristoe
Originally Posted by Starman
The video shows his head moved foward
on impact FACT not mere opinion.


All of those "facts" were eliminated by the Zapruder film.

"Every action has an equal and opposite reaction."



FILM confirms -
1. head went forward on impact
2.then springs backward as the 'opposite'
reaction.
Posted By: PJGunner Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
I was sleeping in the barracks at Osan AFB Korea when I got the news. Twenty minutes later I was issued an M2 carbine and three magazines and placed on a post on the base perimeter. The orders were anyone outside the perimeter we called halt three times in Englinsh and Korean. Improper response or no response, shoot.Fact of the matter was we didn't know if the Norks of Chicoms would be piling down our throats at any minute. Korea this time of year can get mighty chilly. Being scared stiff didn't help much.
Paul B.
Posted By: JoeBob Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
Anybody with a brain who has ever been to Dealy Plaza knows that the shots didn’t come from the the so-called grassy knoll. The Plaza is too small. If anyone had shot from there, there would have been no doubt. Secondly, it’s a really bad place to shoot from. It would have been a crossing shot with all kinds of people walking back and forth and standing between the shooter and the limo. And, there is no way anyone could have concealed themselves there without being seen.
Posted By: kwg020 Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
I was in 4th grade. Our Principal came in and told our class. He made it to all of the class rooms before the day was out. We really didn't understand the whole thing until we saw the funeral and the procession to Arlington. I still think it was a secret service guy who had just been issued an M16 the next car back. He jumped up on the car and let go a round of 5.56 by accident because he heard the first shot and took the safety off. Harvey got him with one of the first shots thought the base of the neck but it wasn't fatal. That 5.56 from the accidental discharge got him in the head. That's some kind of karma. Just my opinion.

kwg

JoeBob said:
Quote
Anybody with a brain who has ever been to Dealy Plaza and has half a brain knows that the shots didn’t come from the the so-called grassy knoll. The Plaza is too small. If anyone had shot from there, there would have been no doubt. Secondly, it’s a really bad place to shoot from. It would have been a crossing shot with all kinds of people walking back and forth and standing between the shooter and the limo. And, there is no way anyone could have concealed themselves there without being seen.


I absolutely agree, JoeBob.

kwg
Posted By: hanco Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
I was a couple blocks away, headed back to bus, us straight A students got to go see the motorcade. He went by use about 5 minutes before the Commies killed him.
Posted By: DigitalDan Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
10th grade on Guam. News came over the radio. First time I paused to ponder what being dead meant. Too much conflicting circumstance and tales came out of that deal, I was skeptical from day one. About 20 years later I visited the School Book Depository and took a look out Oswald's window. A 4 alarm retard could'a made those shots. They could have been made from the grassy knoll too. Thing that implicates Oswald so much in my mind is what he did later while trying to slip away. Why in hell did he kill Officer Tippet? Must have been feeling a little insecure for some reason...
Posted By: IndyCA35 Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
It's easy to show there was no conspiracy, as follows:

1. There is indisputable evidence that some bullets came from Oswald's rifle.

2. Therefore any conspiracy would have to have included Oswald and others.

3. No intelligent conspirators (CIA, Mafia, etc.) would have included Oswald because Oswald was a nut.

4. No provision was made for Oswald to escape. If captured, he would have spilled the beans.

5. No one would have relied on Ruby to "off" Oswald after capture. Too iffy. They would have "offed" Oswald shortly after the murder.
Posted By: BtailHunter Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
Oh, JFK not JFC, never mind.
Posted By: Remington6MM Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/22/20
I didn't, I was banging Carol Sikora in the back of my hotrod in the high school parking lot.
Posted By: rabst Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/23/20
Originally Posted by IndyCA35
It's easy to show there was no conspiracy, as follows:

1. There is indisputable evidence that all bullets came from Oswald's rifle.

2. Therefore any conspiracy would have to have included Oswald and others.

3. No intelligent conspirators (CIA, Mafia, etc.) would have included Oswald because Oswald was a nut.

4. No provision was made for Oswald to escape. If captured, he would have spilled the beans.

5. No one would have relied on Ruby to "off" Oswald after capture. Too iffy. They would have "offed" Oswald shortly after the murder.


Fixed it for you!

Dr. Vincent Guinn, called on by the House Select Committee for his expertise on the subject of neutron activation, looked at the stretcher ("magic") bullet (CE 399), three bullet fragments removed from Governor Connally's wrist (CE 842), two bullet fragments removed at autopsy from President Kennedy's brain (CE 843), a large bullet fragment found on the limousine's front floorboard (CE 567), and several small bullet fragments found on the limousine's rear floor (three additional fragments, FBI No. Q-609, CE 569, and CE 841, didn't have enough lead to allow for neutron activation analysis). "[He] concluded that all fragments were Western Cartridge Co. bullets manufactured for the Mannlicher-Carcano rifle. He found they came from only two bullets. . . . His most important finding was that CE 399, the stretcher bullet, was indistinguishable, both in antimony and silver, from the fragments recovered from the Governor's wrist. *

"[Dr Guinn] discovered that the Western Cartridge Co. bullets made for the Carcano were different from any of the other bullets he had tested during twenty years. . . . [The] most striking feature, and most useful for identification purposes, was that 'there seems to be no uniformity within a production lot. That is, even when we would take a box of cartidges all from a given production lot, take one cartridge out and then another and and then another . . . all out of the same box -- boxes of twenty, these were -- and analyze them, they all in general look . . . widely different, particularly in their antimony content.' " * In other words, because of "the great difference in the composition of the metal among individual bullets," the fragments could conclusively be determined to not just all come from the same lot of bullets; they came from the same two bullets.

*from Case Closed, page 341-342

Posted By: Bristoe Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/23/20
Originally Posted by rabst
Originally Posted by IndyCA35
It's easy to show there was no conspiracy, as follows:

1. There is indisputable evidence that all bullets came from Oswald's rifle.

2. Therefore any conspiracy would have to have included Oswald and others.

3. No intelligent conspirators (CIA, Mafia, etc.) would have included Oswald because Oswald was a nut.

4. No provision was made for Oswald to escape. If captured, he would have spilled the beans.

5. No one would have relied on Ruby to "off" Oswald after capture. Too iffy. They would have "offed" Oswald shortly after the murder.


Fixed it for you!

Dr. Vincent Guinn, called on by the House Select Committee for his expertise on the subject of neutron activation, looked at the stretcher ("magic") bullet (CE 399), three bullet fragments removed from Governor Connally's wrist (CE 842), two bullet fragments removed at autopsy from President Kennedy's brain (CE 843), a large bullet fragment found on the limousine's front floorboard (CE 567), and several small bullet fragments found on the limousine's rear floor (three additional fragments, FBI No. Q-609, CE 569, and CE 841, didn't have enough lead to allow for neutron activation analysis). "[He] concluded that all fragments were Western Cartridge Co. bullets manufactured for the Mannlicher-Carcano rifle. He found they came from only two bullets. . . . His most important finding was that CE 399, the stretcher bullet, was indistinguishable, both in antimony and silver, from the fragments recovered from the Governor's wrist. *

"[Dr Guinn] discovered that the Western Cartridge Co. bullets made for the Carcano were different from any of the other bullets he had tested during twenty years. . . . [The] most striking feature, and most useful for identification purposes, was that 'there seems to be no uniformity within a production lot. That is, even when we would take a box of cartidges all from a given production lot, take one cartridge out and then another and and then another . . . all out of the same box -- boxes of twenty, these were -- and analyze them, they all in general look . . . widely different, particularly in their antimony content.' " * In other words, because of "the great difference in the composition of the metal among individual bullets," the fragments could conclusively be determined to not just all come from the same lot of bullets; they came from the same two bullets.

*from Case Closed, page 341-342



There was a murder case in Lexington Kentucky several years ago where the murder weapon was a .243 rifle. They had an FBI expert testify that the bullet alloy was the same as the alloy in a partial box of ammunition found at the home of the man who was accused of the murder. The expert testified that there would only be a limited number of bullets produced that would match that alloy.

The defense called a witness from the ammunition manufacturer who testified that each batch of bullets was manufactured from ingots of lead alloy weighing several tons and that many thousands of bullets would have alloy that was exactly the same.

So I don't believe there is a lack of uniformity within a production lot of 6.5 Carcano bullets or any other bullets.

Basically, anybody who says that there's widely different characteristics in the alloy of the same batch of bullets is lying.

Here's the case I was speaking of. The "expert" in this case did 4 months for perjury.

https://arthuralphin.com/kentucky-v-shane-ragland/

Second, the FBI came in (comments elsewhere on Title 5, CFR, and the great beltway money machine) and testified about matches in their “Comparative Bullet Lead Alloy Analysis Test”.

Mr. True and myself, with the help of a chemist, were able to savage the FBI so severely in a hearing that their lab tech pled guilty to misdemeanor perjury (and got 4 months). Since then, the National Academy of Science rendered a tepid opinion of CBLAAT and the FBI formally abandoned this “test” and all such testimony, and support of local law enforcement, as “junk” science.




Posted By: Bristoe Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/23/20
If the "expert" in the JFK case found widely different amounts of antimony in the bullet fragments and the bullet found on the gurney, they, at minimum, came from different batches of bullets.

But, of course, saying that one batch of bullets could differ in composition would support the "official story".
Posted By: Morewood Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/23/20
Originally Posted by Bristoe
I don't know who did it,.,...don't know why. All I know is the shot that killed JFK hit him in the right side of his forehead.

It's right there plain as day in the Zapruder film.


Yep. JFK's kill shot came from that fence line above the grassy knoll.

It was a set up.
Posted By: Skankhunt42 Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/23/20
Originally Posted by smokepole
Originally Posted by Daveinjax
I love my country but fear and loathe our government.



Have you been to Las Vegas?


I never have, why?

For the record I wasn't born yet when this happened. I believe that the Mob was involved with the CIA and the deep state to take him out (pretty sure Flave as a handle on what actually happened). Just wondering how my ever visiting Las Vegas would have any bearing on what I think happened.
Posted By: deflave Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/23/20
Originally Posted by Morewood
Originally Posted by Bristoe
I don't know who did it,.,...don't know why. All I know is the shot that killed JFK hit him in the right side of his forehead.

It's right there plain as day in the Zapruder film.


Yep. JFK's kill shot came from that fence line above the grassy knoll.

It was a set up.


The notion that a person can determine where a projectile came from based on that film is silly.
Posted By: deflave Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/23/20
Originally Posted by IndyCA35
It's easy to show there was no conspiracy, as follows:

1. There is indisputable evidence that some bullets came from Oswald's rifle.

2. Therefore any conspiracy would have to have included Oswald and others.

3. No intelligent conspirators (CIA, Mafia, etc.) would have included Oswald because Oswald was a nut.

4. No provision was made for Oswald to escape. If captured, he would have spilled the beans.

5. No one would have relied on Ruby to "off" Oswald after capture. Too iffy. They would have "offed" Oswald shortly after the murder.


What a deep thinker.

LOL
Posted By: deflave Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/23/20
Originally Posted by Skankhunt42
Originally Posted by smokepole
Originally Posted by Daveinjax
I love my country but fear and loathe our government.



Have you been to Las Vegas?


I never have, why?

For the record I wasn't born yet when this happened. I believe that the Mob was involved with the CIA and the deep state to take him out (pretty sure Flave as a handle on what actually happened). Just wondering how my ever visiting Las Vegas would have any bearing on what I think happened.


I don't mean to speak for smokepole but I believe his post was a reference to a novel written by Hunter S. Thompson.

Later made into a movie starring Johnny Depp and Benicio Del Torro.
Posted By: Morewood Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/23/20
Best thing about Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas is the artwork by this guy
[Linked Image from brokeassstuart-9uzlt3u.netdna-ssl.com]
Posted By: Ranger99 Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/23/20
Just me- I can't think of why anyone would want
to visit Dealy plaza. The last time I was through
there I was walking back to the bus stop from the
court building on the west side of the underpass
after serving jury duty.
There was so many "homeless " people turds and
puddles of pee you'd have thought that the turd
truck had just made a delivery. That and running
the gauntlet of the "tour guides " selling pamphlets
and booklets with the " real " story of the assassination.
Really a first class BFM to me, but I guess not so
much to the out of town tourists and the hoards
of visiting Japanese.

And yes there's plenty of places where a frontal
shot could have been made easily.
But again, none of us will ever know wtf
Posted By: IndyCA35 Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/23/20
Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by IndyCA35
It's easy to show there was no conspiracy, as follows:

1. There is indisputable evidence that some bullets came from Oswald's rifle.

2. Therefore any conspiracy would have to have included Oswald and others.

3. No intelligent conspirators (CIA, Mafia, etc.) would have included Oswald because Oswald was a nut.

4. No provision was made for Oswald to escape. If captured, he would have spilled the beans.

5. No one would have relied on Ruby to "off" Oswald after capture. Too iffy. They would have "offed" Oswald shortly after the murder.


What a deep thinker.

LOL




Yep. Some people on the 24HCF actually can think.
Posted By: GRIZZ Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/23/20
Originally Posted by Bristoe
Originally Posted by Starman
Originally Posted by GRIZZ
Originally Posted by Bristoe
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It's right there plain as day in the Zapruder film.

Bullchit..Don't know exactly "what frame" but before JFK's head explodes you can se it jump forward a bit from the bullet impacting the back of his head. You can also see skull/brain matter traveling upwards and forwards another indication of a hit from behind.


Grizz is on the mark... the problem with Bristoe
is he doesn't want to see it.


Okay,..so it's your opinion that JFK got shot in the back of the head with a 6.5mm centerfire rifle,...which caused his head to move forward just a very slight bit. Then, after the bullet dwelled in his head for about 3/4ths of a second, it suddenly came exploding out the front,... violently slamming his head back and to the left,...and in the process blowing his brains all over the trunk of the limo.

Brain splatter everywhere Son...
Posted By: smokepole Re: "Who Shot JFK?" - 11/23/20
Originally Posted by Skankhunt42
Originally Posted by smokepole
Originally Posted by Daveinjax
I love my country but fear and loathe our government.



Have you been to Las Vegas?


I never have, why........?

Just wondering how my ever visiting Las Vegas would have any bearing on what I think happened.


Yeah, I'm wondering that too. Since I didn't ask you.
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