I am laying in my camper on the ranch where we hunt deer. Just finished watching Hondo from a disc. John Wayne epitomized America when I was a kid and continued to do so for most of my young adult life. He was a great American. The Duke was actually a rather plain and simple actor as well as a human being—quite common even down to his sense.

John Wayne prided himself on calling a spade a spade. And in his day that was endearing as the population was mostly realists.

While John Wayne was loved by the right and the left of his time and a darling of the MSM in his era...I am afraid today he would be called a chauvinistic fascist. Some his moves on women in his movies...might even get him labeled a sexual predator.

There will never be another Duke and I am sad for that but what makes me even sadder is that John Wayne’s country no longer even exists.

I find myself asking every time I watch a Wayne film...what in Sam Hill went wrong???

"I was home. What happened? What the hell happened?"

Amen, Brother.

I do not recognize "America" today. I am surrounded by strangers. Foreigners. Freaks and reprobates. I don't hear my own dialect spoken anymore. People who should be my people have gone whoring after foreign gods. I am a stranger in the land I grew up in.

Forces and events beyond any persons control happened.

Parents let their kids go to schit, that's what happened.

Pop culture, Marxist indoctrination in schools, Hollywood, Politicians etc.... the list is long

Again I’ll ask the folk that idolize Kyle like irfubar, when are you gonna stand up and make a difference...you ain’t!

Buncha can’t cut-it-cckunts

It's the Devil.

It's been awhile since I had a stalker..... woohoo

MTV was the beginning of the end . That and the fact that the hippies of the 60s/70s are now more or less running the country. Sad...

Oh, it goes way farther back than that.

It probably was still in Mexico when America was populated with Americans..

Trotskyites were never hippies.

Again I’ll ask the folk that idolize Kyle like irfubar, when are you gonna stand up and make a difference...you ain’t!

Buncha can’t cut-it-cckunts

The breakdown of the 2 parent family.

I read somewhere that 86% of African-American children live in 1 parent homes.

You can try to come up with excuses but it doesn’t excuse those from other than optimal conditions that grow up with drive and a moral compass and stay out of trouble.

The more reasonable answer was posted on this forum earlier this year. The post cited a Psychiatrist that claimed only 1/3 of the population has the ability to rationalize and analyze information, the rest drink the koolaid.

There are some prime examples of koolaid drinkers on this forum. You can literally see the mathmatical breakdown of the posters theory live right here on the forum. 2/3 hammer heads.

America fundamentally changed after WWII. We were warned about the advance of the Military/Industrial Complex, but it really was too late by that time.

The greatest generation came home from their war, and took a decidedly (for the era) liberal stance. Military intervention anywhere in the world became acceptable to support our economy. Then military intervention became necessary to support our military interventions.

24/7 manufacturing, women in the workplace, and liberal educators essentially raising our children. The bonds of our society began to dissolve.

I've mentioned it several times, but I feel like 1953, and our clandestine action in deposing the president of Iran was a major turning point in our history. We overturned a democratic nation's government to position ourselves and our allies strategically better in the world oil market.
We compounded that error by putting an incompetent, insecure, and cruel autocrat in place, and supplied him with the means to viciously suppress any and all dissent from those he ruled.
All in all we're ahead on points but the game board has tilted against us and that tilt gets steeper as the stakes get higher.

In some respects, WWII never really ended for the United States.

If its any consolation all 30 or so 1st world countries are saying the same thing.

Enough things came into conjunction the last century or two for a 'once in a species change' from our usual model of Elites/Peasant class domination. Industrialisation, science, fall of the old monarchies, and 'new men' competing not just for the usual warfare and exploration, they also had to outdo other countries in agirculture, medicine, astronomy, philisophy, law, etc.

Kids arent taught today that the late 19th/20th century was an amazing race of discovery- get their first for your country. And the effect was it dragged living standards up with it.

Then we just ran out of steam, discovery became consumption, we no longer cared whether a spaceship could get to venus we wanted a ruler with a calculator on it or cheaper washing machine. The west began warmongering, selling arms and looting the 3/4 poorer areas of the world to prop up our lifestyles. The guys at the top globalised and strangled everything until it was only one area with any wealth left, their own middle class.

And now they want that too

It is very simple, Where ever islam is, There's chaos. They are trying to hard to bring it here, Obama was their front face man. He did it.
He let them in now they are called Americans and they want to vote and they want equal rights too. I am not against migration but this is my opinion.

Muslims have penetrated the UK NOW the whole place is a mess. Foreign gods, Foreign ways and they want us to bend to them now.

Not entire beyond our control. Look Foreign Govt. have been trying to invade us for years with zero success. But Abe. Lincoln tipped them off when he said "America can not be destroyed from outside but from within" Foreign Govt have infiltrate ours. corrupted our political system with drugs, sex and money.
Their best tool is the media and they also destroyed our educational system. Its such a mess.

The destruction began a hundred years ago. Technology. Recording, radio, movies. Then television. Nothing bad in and of themselves, but these technologies very quickly were bought up by a certain self-chosen group of people. They told us what was "popular". They twisted society to follow the "pop culture" that they created. Music and other things that were designed to create a break between young people and their parents. "Art is not a mirror to reflect society, it is a hammer with which to shape it."

I hear people today say how every generation is different from the one before and it's always been that way... no it hasn't. Prior to "pop culture", children grew up following the footsteps of their parents. They held the same beliefs, they worked in the same careers, and they wanted to raise their children just like their parents did. They respected their heritage, and wanted it to continue. Not anymore. Each succeeding generation has been manipulated to think the previous generation was "square" and "uncool", and they shouldn't be anything like those old fuddy duddies. This is the break. If the children don't care about their parents generation, they definitely don't care about their grandparents' generation, and they don't care about their history, and they don't care about their heritage. And if they don't care about their heritage, they won't care about their future.

On top of the generational separation, "pop culture" has taught each succeeding generation that anything White is "square" and "uncool" (and now, considered downright evil). They are taught to embrace anything and everything "other"..... primarily black. Jewish and black jazz music was pushed as being "popular"...then the very black-influenced rock and roll, etc. Today, negrophilia infects the whole of society. The break with the past, with our ancestors and with our heritage is now pretty much complete.

The progression of destruction was slow at first, but proceeded with increasing speed as the years passed. The past several years have brought the most dramatic changes. To the point where I just don't recognize anything around me anymore. Even people my own age, that I grew up with have succumbed to it.

1491?

A lot of the above is true - it's been a relatively slow change, but the cancer that is social media, and the ability of those in power to fabricate the news, has drastically accelerated the downfall.

It's across all 1st world countries.

I could copy ledvm's thread starting post into an Australian political forum and what would follow would be what you see here and I mean exactly the same.

I would have to agree, they raised a bunch of Pussies, still are.

What happened to our country was no accident. It was done intentionally.

Yet we are are still here on the fire, funny how like minded people always find each other. Thirty years ago I knew I could walk into any Dunkin Donut shop and sit at the counter(when they still had a counter) and within five minutes be in a conversation with 5 or 6 guys. Now if you go to starbucks it's all freaks and geeks staring at their I phone.

Actually, you're on to something. This used to be a God fearing nation, one in which we were known as a Christian nation, where most of the people recognized that there was a God, whether they were practicing Christians or not. Most of the people attended church, and those that didn't go to church didn't go around objecting to religion. God being taken out our schools, the assault on Christianity, women demanding abortions, kissing Islamic azz.................all things that have contributed to the decline of this country, and you better believe that Satan is behind it all.

Pretty much 1491

The funny thing is that much of the sentiments expressed here would better match a colonial British loyalist than an American Founding Father.

This thing that gets marched out as patriotism nowadays is something else entirely.

Exactly me Brother...exactly me.

True Story ^^^

I blame it on rock and roll...

That was a light-hearted joke...

But still kind of true. The America we have today is exactly the America that we have wanted since our founding.

The America of 2020 is like the rock and roll singer popular beyond belief and overdosing on drugs every hour on the hour...

Keith Richards is the canary in the coal mine.

What shapes America? The idiot box that you pay your enemies to let you watch every month. Unfugging real.

Fact...

1960-Hard work and freedom

2020-No work and free stuff

Name another species of animal that goes out of its’ way to make sure that the dumbest and laziest folks are still provided for, so that they may procreate, and pass their stupidity and lazy work ethic on to even dumber/lazier children.

I’m not talking about a year or two of charity to get someone through a “bad situation”, or helping old retired folks who can no longer procreate or work. I’m talking about handing out “subsidies” to folks, starting in their late teens, so that they can do nothing but sit around, have babies, stir schidt, and complain that they’re not getting even MORE.

And if it weren’t bad enough, it’s not just the “natives”. Immigrants no longer show up looking to “MAKE a better life for their family”. Nope. They stick their hands out, and DEMAND that American taxpayers GIVE them a better life...

Those old white preachers told us that TV and rock ‘n roll were “of the devil”, and were gonna turn our kids into a bunch of horny, drugged up, lazy/stupid heathen commies. Everybody thought they were a bunch of idiot, backwards “sticks in the mud”.

Turns out, they were pretty much right....

People were living the same myth in 1960 as people are living now. The boomers are poster children for free schit. There has never been a more coddled and spoiled generation of people on the planet ever. The step up in sheer free schit is so remarkable because it could never have happened before and can never happen again. And the funniest thing about it is that as the boomers continue to collect their 30 pieces of silver, they imagine the generations they sired have it so much easier.

This interview of John Wayne goes right along with your thread.
https://youtu.be/SR9nIMOrqy4

Hollywood didn't like Duke back then either.

They like money and Duke made money.

Haha!

No schit!

Like throwing out bread and wine at the Circus....

I learned about socialism back around 1967-68 from old German folks who got out of Germany in the 1930's. When the German Socialist Workers Party, AKA Nazi's, took over by getting enough of them elected and thus fundamentally changed Germany. They predicted that type of event could happen here. The Enabling Act of 1933 was what gave them (Hitler) almost unlimited power. Just change all the rules and the constitution legislatively and legally and then you can rule as you wish. Lots of Germans bought that line of socialist lies back then just like lots of Americans do today.

we all know that it's humans that govern us.

but really they are possessed by ideology.

many ideologies out there. we call ours the truth.

the problem is there's many who disagree with us.

and they vote for politicians that are closest to their ideology.

what we've got is ideology possessing humans. until the human passes.

then we face democracy and at this point republic gov't head on, face on.

a few weeks ago it would be ruled total heresy to suggest biden is our only friend.

that is, the far left has to be defended against. if trump loses, then who better than biden?

politics makes for some very strange bedfellows. there's a military certainty in that line of thinking.

I remember seeing that. John Wayne was a ‘man’ and John Wayne was an American!

There's no danger of America becoming like 1930s Germany any time soon. American Caucasians don't have that much clout these days.

America is *much* more like Russia at the early part of the 20th century.

lolol!,....I needed a good laugh tonight and I got one.

American negroes and communists are marching in the streets,..burning cities,..looting stores,..and somebody says:

"I'm tellin' ya!,...it's just like 1930s Germany these days!"

Most of what people "know" about the eeeevil naaahtzies comes from watching Bugs Bunny cartoons and made-for-TV movies.

The American decline went into overdrive -
when God, and The Pledge of Allegiance were removed from schools.
My opinion.

The pledge of allegiance was written by a socialist in 1892.

I'm going to hold back on pledging allegiance to anything headed up by Biden and Company.

^^^My sentiments as well.

This really is sad.

The powers that be wanted us thinking when there were a lot of machines to build, things to be discovered, countries to compete against technologically. This dragged up the standard of living, allowed the average person to do or be anything. Then we all globalised, the powers that be from all countries got together and thought 'gee we really dont need this ultra-smart and free living middle class anymore. Lets get them working in the 'new normal' factory world we got planned"

There was a group wanting to rename the John Wayne Airport in California because he was a racist....

With you Bristoe.

That reply highly suggests that you sir...are part of the problem.

From Cahill US Marshall: “I don’t have a bigoted bone in my body...but I’ll blast you to hell as quick as I would a white man if you don’t drop that ax.”

From Undefeated (implied in many others): Context is speaking of the Civil War. Lady: “May I ask what side you were on?” John Wayne: “Ma’am I like to think the right side.” (He was a union officer)

Just goes to show how tolerant I am...I am a direct descendant of Jefferson Davis...still loved The Duke and knew he was a great American.