What period of time? The nuclear age? Integration? Vietnam?
The Reagan years were still a great time to be an American... fall of the USSR. Even the Clinton years weren’t that bad.
My vote is Sept 11, 2001. Everything seemed to start on the wrong path after that. Lot of bad decisions made, seemingly out of emotion, but in hind sight, probably pre planned. The 2008 economic collapse put it into hyperdrive. 2016, was the best chance we had to turn it around. Looks like that chance is slipping away quickly now. Personally, I don’t see us lasting 4 years of a Biden administration.
Foreign policy will return to servicing global interests with no concern for American sovereignty or exceptionalism.
Reliance on foreign energy, surpassed in military strength by China and Russia, open borders and industry killing regulation and taxation.

As Ceasar said--- I don't know why in hell Jeep cant make a Rubicon in two doors with a pickup bed.

the well meaning, and well intentioned catholics did this to us. they set us on this course.

kennedy supporting rome, and johnson fulfilling requirements.

it's been a slow, tortuous process, and meandering.

now we wake up, look around and wonder?

wonder what happened to us.

the soviet union collapsed.

china is in an ascendency.

work & pay taxes. that's new america.

I don't see Biden lasting 4 years of a Biden administration. Harris will be far worse.

Good one Bear!

With open borders; Islam will be allowed to bring us to our knees.

1913

LBJ,s great society entitlement programs.
And all the schitt derived from it since.
AKA: vote for me and it's all free.

It's the biggest game the Liberal Socialist Democrats have.

Those who contribute the least have waaaaaaaay too much impact.

They dont even have to take a piss test...
But yet the vast majority of people who work have too.
And then pay taxes to support the leaches who have the right to vote also.



What a fugged up system that works totally in the favor of Liberal Socialist Democrat Politicians only.

The schit perpetuates and increase,s itself also with their rampant #,s
Get high, drunk, Phfuck, and multiply is about all welfarites do....

LBJ’s “Great Society” programs

Immigration and Naturalization Act of 1965

Opening trade with China (creating a monster)

9/11- Seemed to make it “ok” to limit lots of freedom’s in the name of safety


Those are the 4 biggies..

Exactly This...

Whoever the authors of self help books are responsible. Writing, publishing and selling books that gave us such a fragile society of pussies raising pussies is when our culture of Jeep crawlers crashed and burned on the Rubicon.

Raising kids with too much power, no accountability, and only praise without realistic expectations. Doomed us all...


And here we are.

😎

Anybody elsewhere seeing gas already starting to creep up?

Also,

Control your:

1. food
2. water
3. energy
4. healthcare
5. mobility
6. guns

Pick the order. You're still toast.

The explosion of the internet, social media and even smart phones created a whole new information highway that opened our eyes to what has always been and gave the propagandists more power to brainwash the brain washable.

Not much has changed, we just are able to gather more , outside the MSM.

My best friends and I talk about this all the time.

Our concensus of opinion?

If you don't have a job and/or you don't own property, YOU DON'T VOTE.

If you are a student, no problem.

Hurry up and get educated so you can GET A JOB AND THEN YOU CAN VOTE.

BTW- I'm expecting my next social security check next Wednesday.
(That always pisses them off. The fact you've worked like a slave 50 years to be eligible doesn't count).

The day that a marxist groid became president.

the survival of the human race. what a concept.
in terms of the picture of stalin, roosevelt, and churchill, we'll need to upgrade and replace churchill for the president of china.

we have to keep up with current events.

a president of africa? nobody that i know.

I’d lean toward this just being a normal point in the endless cycle of humanity chasing its collective tail while repeatedly repeating our history.

Since the 1860s when Lincoln suspended the Constitution. It's been incrementally downhill since then. The closer you get to the drain the faster the water swirls. Hold on boys & girls.

When the soviet union dissolved the "smart people" believed that the world would seek peace and harmony.

When people believed that the Clinton debacle was about sex rather than lying and disgracing the country.

9/11 resulting in the Patriot Act and 2 stupid protracted wars.


It all boils down to people letting politicians change the law and reelecting them based on party rather than proven beliefs and ideas.

VOTE OUT THE INCUMBENTS. QUESTION AUTHORITY.


mike r

Guy on the left is Bill Murray... but who are the other two?

Groundhog Day 2... right?

On Netflix?

I mean... if it ain't on Netflix or CNN... why bother... right bro?

Those men configured the world you live in.

Fans of alternative history can imagine a world in which the Axis had triumphed.


mike r

The only decent one was Churchill.

No one will like my answer, but it happened when the sexual revolution became mainstream. That was the first fault in the dam leading to complete failure and catastrophe

Careful what you ask!
https://pics.me.me/before-asking-a-marine-to-kneel-before-you-remember-they-17344223.png

Churchill's antics destroyed the British Empire.

Churchill was the most bloodthirsty sumbitch that ever lived.

My thoughts exactly. It’s a cycle That I’m not sure can be broken. It’s like a mathematic formula. It can’t be deviated from.

Fans of real history know that Russia had nukes in Cuba pointed at America 17 years after the U.S.A. enabled Russia to enslave a large part of Europe.

??? you have read too many books. Oracles speak, the world listens.

LOL


mike r

So it didn't happen?

Correct...

http://projectlibertyutah.blogspot.com/2008/08/what-is-tytler-cycle-where-is-united.html?m=1

If they hadn't killed him he'd have jeep making one. Dude got schit done, that's for sure.

Similar to Strauss and Howe’s generational theory. The Fourth Turning.

12:30 P.M. CST November 22, 1963

You are the historian, how did it turn out? Is russian communism the same as American communism? You like to generalize and assign titles but disallow thought different from your own. An Orwellian Oracle?


mike r

When we went off the Gold Standard.

That was Neville Chamberlin

What would you rather have seen? A coward?

1913. “Let me control a nation’s currency, and I care not who makes its laws.”

I'd rather have seen the limey bastard put a gun to his head and pull the trigger.

I have to vote for 1913 as well. The "Progressive Era" started well before, but without the Jew-created and run central bank, it would have been nigh impossible for anything else that came later, including two world wars, a bunch of smaller wars, socialized everything, and endless government bureaucracy. And with the government poorer by miles, we'd be in a far better position. A lot closer to the Constitution. Without a bunch of fake money to bribe people, and a group set on the subjugation of the US running it, corruption would be a lot harder to come by.

I'd say the rot really began to set in after the turn of the century.

We crossed the rubicon when trump showed that accepted norms don’t matter. He has brought brass knuckles to a boxing match and the establishment does not seem to realize it. Controls need to be tightened to ensure crazy people can’t Shanghai a political party. The political parties need to self regulate to ensure this crazy crap never happens again. If a cult leader wants to run he or she should run on their own dime and platform.

both you have never read a history book and lack even a basic understand of world politics, cultures. not surprising

I agree that what Lincoln allowed to happen to America was a great travesty, and probably one of the worse in our country's history... However, I agree with those below that the installment of our third central bank is the worse currently running scheme. Without it, none of the current maladies would be possible.





This is the current, largest continued Threat to all sovereign and free nations, but especially here in The United States of America, where our citizens hold a much larger base of Rights & Liberties that cannot be found in ANY other lands or worlds. All other concerns pale in comparison, and could be quickly dispatched if we could only remove this relentless parasite from Lady Liberty.

Don't forget Women's Suffrage. We've all been suffEring from it ever since.

When do gooders got the vote for more than land owning taxpayers.

Well that’s surprising since I advanced placed out of history (1865 to present) when I was a freshman in college. 😝

Truth! Cancer goes for quite a while before the symptoms get bad.

1,000 years from now, we (the USA, as we know it) will likely be in history books, being studied by some other mega-power country, probably learning from our fatal mistakes.

Despite our current downfalls, this is still the greatest country in the world today. I wouldn't want to live anywhere else...

But it will not last forever. No civilization ever has. And we won't, either.

11/22/1963.

I said when BushClinton sold out. I was told it happened before that.

We have a society with too many who want to live at the expense of others and too many who don't have the balls to speak up. I know I'm a broken record and irritate the weak, but what shapes opinion more than liberal television? Yet too many conservatives support it financially and pipe it into their homes. Do people really think that political correctness was just an outgrowth of a maturing society?
Hell no. It was educated into the young and gullible andused to silence their spineless parents. Just MHO.

When Foxnews came out.

I'm a fox News watcher and I'm much more in their camp than any other, but when they started showing the more conservative point of view the other networks decided to provide rebuttals. The liberal press all watched fox News but liberals didn't so it devolved into only showing the liberal points. Fox became more conservative and the liberal press became more liberal. It started a News war that was rejoined on both sides.

Now you have an electorate that is deciding how to run the United States government on incomplete information because most folks are either on one side or the other.

I have no idea how we get out of this. Families can't even have Thanksgiving together anymore due to the political division over mostly silly misconceptions. We almost all still agree on the important points.

Cross

MTV. When MTV came out.

60's civil rights, great society BS along with Nam

The internet.

Electronics as a whole, but with the introduction of the internet that pushed it over the edge

Allowing slaves into the US..


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1991, collapse of the USSR. Globalisation linked up the worlds elite and without each other to fight for the first time in human history they turned on the next best thing, their own middle class. it didnt happen right away. There was still 20 years of easy money to be made. We set up business in the old iron curtain countries, made bank, easy mortgages, good stock returns, we even sold manufacture off and invented a bunch of worthless fluff jobs to keep people employed. Then in the late 2000's the money started to run out, Russia started taking its territories back, china started outmaniouvering us and we realised our culture of bloated, drug addicted, whining, suburbanite dog shampooers and tree pyschologists could no longer be supported.

We started crossing the Rubicon the day George Herbert Walker Bush the nth took the oath. Klinton bolted on an Evinrude. Then, GW just put on one of those V-12 Merlin race engines and crashed on the wrong shore.

read sir jhon glubb...fate of empires....breakdown of great powers and how they all have common traits before their downfall....happens to every country.....bob

We have Bush & Cheney to thank for Homeland Security......a bloated, unneeded government agency.

When the owning property was removed as a requirement to be able to vote.

lincoln
roosevelt
johnson
carter
obongo

in that order

1913.

I'm glad some people realize it.

And this

I understand the sentiment, but an argument can be made that April 8, 1865 was a watershed date...or the day Lincoln was elected.

Or you can go all the way back to The Whiskey Rebellion.

I guess it just depends on whether you think it's government action or social degeneracy allowing the decay to continue. I choose the latter.

1960 damn hippy communist.

I never cease to be amazed that there are people today who think only landowners should be able to vote.

There are some also, who even long for the days of monarchy.....

I'm changing my vote... from 1913 to whenever it was when the first jew was allowed to set foot here. At that point, our doom was sealed.

Well, as usual, the first response is usually the best.

LMAO!

Only landowners should vote. If you do not own a piece of this nation, you get no say in how it is run, because you have no real skin in the game. What is so hard about owning a 1/4 acre of America, that any working person could not afford it? For damn sure, if you are receiving any kind of, welfare, disability, subsidies, tax breaks, or other treasure from the public pot, you do not vote.

The actual answer is when Adam and Eve were expelled from the garden.

Despite those that believe in "evolution", everything in human history since then has been a downward spiral - "devolution" if you will.

The USA is just one more in a long series of failing (devolving) empires... the ink wasn't even dry on the Constitution when the process had begun.

According to that logic, it is impossible that the USA ever existed. I think you need to do better than that kind of reasoning. The way we perceive the world and define it in the West is over 2500 years old. Things are cyclical, and your religious beliefs should remain figurative.

This may sound simple, but when people switched from shopping at Sears to shopping at Walmart. The names of the department store and discount store can be changed. Politics be dammed, pocketbook economics is reality.