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Just read that The Great American Outdoors Group just bought out Sportmans. Awesome, another place to buy schitty Redhead brand garbage. Apologies if this has already been posted.


Ruined
Is that Bass Pro?
Originally Posted by dale06
Is that Bass Pro?



Yep
Well that blows
That might not be the worst news of 2020, but it’s top 5 for sure.

Bass Pro sucks donkey balls.
Sportsmans Warehouse bought buy Bass Pro


Springfield, Mo. and West Jordan, Utah (December 21, 2020) – In an effort to better serve its loyal customers, Sportsman’s Warehouse has entered into a definitive agreement to join the Great American Outdoors Group, parent company of Bass Pro Shops, Cabela’s, White River Marine Group and a collection of nature-based resorts. The Great American Outdoors Group will remain a private company with a long-term view to do what is best for its customers, team members and conservation initiatives. As part of the agreement, Sportsman’s Warehouse will be acquired for $18.00 per share in cash.

The driving force behind the partnership is the two companies’ similar histories and highly complementary business philosophies and geographic footprints. Both entities share a passion with their customers for fishing, camping, hunting, boating and other outdoor activities. Likewise, both are highly acclaimed retailers with well-deserved reputations for a broad offering of outstanding brand name and proprietary products, superior customer service, deeply knowledgeable team members and an unwavering passion for conservation. Uniting together represents an unprecedented “win-win” opportunity for outdoor enthusiasts.

“We are excited to be joining the Great American Outdoors Group. This merger brings together the greatest brands in the outdoor industry. As we look to the future, the combined entities provide our passionate associates with greater opportunities to serve the outdoor enthusiast. I couldn’t be more proud of the nearly 8,000 Sportsman’s Warehouse associates and their success in building our brand over the last 33 years. We look forward to a smooth transition and building our partnership,” said Sportsman’s Warehouse CEO Jon Barker.

“Today is a happy day for our companies, outdoor enthusiasts and for the cause of conservation,” said Bass Pro Shops Founder and Great American Outdoors Group Leader, Johnny Morris. “As outdoor sports specialists with unwavering dedication to people who fish, hunt and enjoy the outdoors, we greatly admire the passionate team at Sportsman’s Warehouse for their commitment to their customers and the sports we all love. By combining our best practices, our aim is to give our customers a best-of-the-best experience while further uniting them to support conservation,” added Morris.

Sportsman’s Warehouse customers can expect all of what they love now plus a whole lot more

Widely expanded product offerings including:

· Access to the world’s largest selection of premium fishing tackle including legendary Bass Pro Shops and other premier brands

· The largest selection of premium hunting gear including the iconic Cabela’s brand

· Sportsman’s Warehouse will be able to offer customers the world’s leading boat brands, side-by-sides and ATVs at money-saving prices. The company’s great family of brands, Tracker, Nitro, Ranger, Ascend Kayaks and other products, are all built right here in the USA by American craftsmen and sold directly to customers through our stores and a select group of dealers, effectively giving customers the opportunity to buy factory-direct at money-saving prices.

Scheels will now get all of my business. Thanks for the information.
Well ... [bleep].
#racetothebottom
That does suck, I was just at the Roanoke store today. They have gotten a lot of $$$$ from me.

Cabela’s was my go to store for clothing, not any more. Sportsman’s Warehouse was where I got most reloading stuff.
Yep, that blows. I'm sure Jon Barker (CEO) is cashing in. How you can foster an "anti-Cabela's" or "anti-Bass Pro" image and then sell out to them, I'll never know. It's like selling your soul to the devil.

I'm with Springcove - Scheels it is.
Originally Posted by Springcove
Scheels will now get all of my business. Thanks for the information.


This is no lie. It’s the only large sporting goods store that I’ll do business in. I can’t stand what BS is, and what they’ve done to Cabelas in short order.
And 2020 just can't let go without piling on more scheiss.

Sportsman's was the last best place around here to buy firearms and a good selection of reloading supplies at reasonable prices.
Bass Pro screwed up my local Cabelas store when they bought it with all the [bleep] crap they sell - and no Bargain Barn anymore.
They ruined Cabelas in a hurry, SW will undoubtedly get the same treatment
I thought SW got ruined when the owner got caught screwing his secretary, his wife found out, and he had to shut down and sell half his stores...
Eff ‘em!! Midway sells fishing stuff, and Brownells has plenty of shooting stuff.

I’ve ordered exactly 5 boxes of ammo, and 2 packs of socks, since the Bass Pro takeover of Cabela’s. Rest of my biz has gone to Midway, Brownells, and small dealers.
oh good lord!!!!!! bass pro runs the cabelas near me like they want to intentionally make it go out of business. I am not kidding the store is run so bad its like they are trying to self sabotage the place. sportsmans wharehouse had gotten my business almost entirely the last few years. this really sucks!!! it has to be true all of us agree how terrible basspro runs these companies they buy out. its almost like a remington/freedom group deal where they buy the company, cut costs, quite advertising, fire people, show a profit, then get some bank to load them enough money to pay themselves back for buying the company. then vampire out whats left and file bankruptcy.
Market is ripe for a good regional business.

Nobody out here likes BP, the place is never busy. It was the first couple years but it sure didn’t last. Local Cabelas is a fraction of what it was.

Sportco is a local shop that continues to grow.
“In an effort to better serve our loyal customers...”

Good God. At least they didn’t mention “corporate synergies” in that statement...
And no Scheels within I don't know how many hundred miles!


Larry gets my money

screw those other guys
Originally Posted by mark shubert
And no Scheels within I don't know how many hundred miles!



closest here is 3 hrs......

fug that......

https://www.midwayusa.com/
All these places end up transforming and catering to phaggots and fly fishermen

Columbia shirts, teva sandals, cbd oil, marshmallow candy peanuts, hiking book gaiters


No offense to phaggots
Originally Posted by slumlord
All these places end up transforming and catering to phaggots and fly fishermen

Columbia shirts, teva sandals, cbd oil, marshmallow candy peanuts, hiking book gaiters


No offense to phaggots



cbd oil

THC enhanced ?
Well crap. I have BP, SW, and Cabelas alll close by. Since Cabrala’s got bought out, most of my spending has gone to SW.
Outdoor china-mart.
Here's the sorry tale up here. We used to have Wholesale Sports, started in Calgary awesome company did lots of mail order. Then they expanded stores all over about 5 in BC this is the 90s. If you needed a left handed die part for your obscure caliber that's where you went. Then Cabelas moves in. OK, not bad maybe better on clothing etc. The two made for decent comp. Then all the sudden Bass Pro shows up shortly after buys Cabelas, closes the entire entity of Wholesale Sports and starts to shred Cabelas of anything useful. Buy the competition, either ruin it or close it. Progress? They can bite me.
Just what we needed.
A friend worked in the Medford OR S. Warehouse, far enough up the food chain to see spreadsheets ,claimed those clothing and junk slum mentioned was where the profit lays. He said some off brand camo clothing had a 200% markup. Does this remind anybody of the Dick's Sporting goods inventory?
Originally Posted by slumlord
All these places end up transforming and catering to phaggots and fly fishermen

Columbia shirts, teva sandals, cbd oil, marshmallow candy peanuts, hiking book gaiters


No offense to phaggots
Better get your Tikka SLs now. You can bet they’re going up in price, and they will likely find some way to screw them up.
That sucks !
Yep they ruined Cabelas
Originally Posted by rockinbbar
I thought SW got ruined when the owner got caught screwing his secretary, his wife found out, and he had to shut down and sell half his stores...



That was only a minor business fluctuation, bump in the road, etc.
Guess Ill be using my Peppermill Reno frequent losers account more. At least the wife will be happy while I'm riding the Ferris wheel
This is horrible news. Cabelas went to schit practically over night after it's acquisition by BP.
All I know is that they better continue to leave us the employee discount or I am going to switch over to the LGS or the other LGS for my part time job. Fotis will say the same thing. That is the only reason that 75% of the employees work there.
Sitka vs. Kuiu vs. Redhead brand clothing. Discuss amongst yourselves....
Scheels is great, I love going there.


Many of the staff at Sportsman's know their stock. Will see how the change affects them.



Best *all around* gun store I've seen (in Washington) is:

https://www.skagitarms.com/

They have a separate new & used store.


In Oregon, BEST prices:

http://keithssporting.com/

They have a *cop* store plus a basement full of stuff!
Originally Posted by fburgtx
Sitka vs. Kuiu vs. Redhead brand clothing. Discuss amongst yourselves....



For shooting house tactics...yes on the first two.
Sportsmans Warehouse has been pretty good , now I guess they will start carriyng that cheap ass Red Head garbage .
Might as well change their name to "The Chinese Embassy".



Storybook hunters and shooters wear THOSE brands.
lol


Flannelflage here

And church khakis on warm days
There's nothing like destroying something to "save" it.
Originally Posted by slumlord
Originally Posted by fburgtx
Sitka vs. Kuiu vs. Redhead brand clothing. Discuss amongst yourselves....



For shooting house tactics...yes on the first two.



Cabelas kind of “bridged the gap” between the high dollar stuff, and the “garbage that just happens to be camo”.

Bass Pro has replaced most of the Cabelas gear with the Redhead crap. I don’t need Kuiu to sit in a deer blind, but at least the Cabelas stuff was decent. I can get “Gamewinner” brand st Academy that’s as good as the Redhead, and a heckuva lot cheaper, to sit in a dry 40 degree box...
Originally Posted by slumlord
All these places end up transforming and catering to phaggots and fly fishermen

Columbia shirts, teva sandals, cbd oil, marshmallow candy peanuts, hiking book gaiters


No offense to phaggots



hahahaha! You just described half of Colorado.
Originally Posted by reivertom
There's nothing like destroying something to "save" it.



Yep.
Originally Posted by slumlord
lol


Flannelflage here

And church khakis on warm days



True story. I dont own a single flannel shirt. I do wear khakis frequently however.

Sportsmanship had too much inventory to survive. They had a huge fly fishing section in Ames iowa. Really? Ames? There isn't a trout for 100 miles from Ames and even then only in 1 direction. (Yes, I know it's actually Ankeny). The state does stock rainbows that you can catch with gummy bears but that doesnt justify the inventory they have.
The danger to the outdoor industry is Bass Pro and Cabelas plus Sportsman's will control too much market share of the retail outdoor industry. This should be "Anti-Trust" but won't even be considered.
Originally Posted by slumlord
Originally Posted by fburgtx
Sitka vs. Kuiu vs. Redhead brand clothing. Discuss amongst yourselves....



For shooting house tactics...yes on the first two.

Old Toot was a Red Head junior pro staff
Never bought anything from Sportsman Warehouse. If Walmart don't have it, then I don't need it.
Originally Posted by MadMooner
That might not be the worst news of 2020, but it’s top 5 for sure.

Bass Pro sucks donkey balls.



I haven't been a bass pro or cabelas when it became one, sad times
Originally Posted by slumlord
All these places end up transforming and catering to phaggots and fly fishermen

Columbia shirts, teva sandals, cbd oil, marshmallow candy peanuts, hiking book gaiters


No offense to phaggots


No offense taken
Originally Posted by tikkanut


Larry gets my money

screw those other guys

That will work until Biden bans mail order. Then we're really screwed.
BPS ruined Cabela's, but maybe BPS learned something from having screwed up Cabela's so badly and will let SW run as an independent operating company. The quality of Cabela's clothing lines dropped like a rock when they stopped being Cabela's brands and started being BPS brands.
We have a local farm and suburban supply store chain in the valley, D & B Supply. As demographics have changed, of course, so has the store. They now cater more to the wanna be C'boys on their little "ranchettes".

But you can still drop in and buy baling twine, fence posts, Round-up, or plow shares. But the important part of this treatise is that they now feature a pretty decent selection of long or short guns, optics, and reloading supplies, along with the Carhartt, Mucks, and Tony Lamma.

Over the last several years, my purchasing dollars have primarily migrated from Cabelas to Sportsmans. I predict that migration shall continue unabated toward D & B Supply.
Originally Posted by mark shubert
And no Scheels within I don't know how many hundred miles!


Exactly! I have no idea where the nearest Scheels is to me. I used to drive 2 hours to Cabela's once or twice a year. Then a Sportsman's Warehouse took over a Field and Stream nearby a couple of years ago. Now I only have Dick's(head) and Sportsman's Whorehouse within a half hours drive. IDK where I'm gonna shop for stuff now! Fugggg Dicks and Fugggg Basspro.
Originally Posted by 260Remguy
BPS ruined Cabela's, but maybe BPS learned something from having screwed up Cabela's so badly and will let SW run as an independent operating company. The quality of Cabela's clothing lines dropped like a rock when they stopped being Cabela's brands and started being BPS brands.


No such luck.

Sportsman’s Warehouse customers can expect all of what they love now plus a whole lot more

Widely expanded product offerings including:

· Access to the world’s largest selection of premium fishing tackle including legendary Bass Pro Shops and other premier brands

· The largest selection of premium hunting gear including the iconic Cabela’s brand
Cabelas used to sell the best hunting clothes money could buy !
Originally Posted by tikkanut


Larry gets my money

screw those other guys

Larry gets plenty of my money and that will continue. Just bought a gun locally Saturday. Saturday evening I ordered 4 magazines for it from Midway.
2pm today the order was sitting at my front door. Amazon doesn't even get me stuff that fast.
Originally Posted by EFHutton
Cabelas used to sell the best hunting clothes money could buy !


WHO THE FUGGGG DOESN'T LISTEN TO E. F. HUTTON?????
Originally Posted by slumlord
Originally Posted by fburgtx
Sitka vs. Kuiu vs. Redhead brand clothing. Discuss amongst yourselves....



For shooting house tactics...yes on the first two.


I just wear sweat pants and a Snuggie.

I drive my ranger 10ft from the box. Get in and crank the heater up.

Bazinga!
Fin Feather and Fur is nice little Ohio chain. It's like Sportsmans Warehouse was when the original owner ran it. I guess I'll be going down to the Toledo store more often.
Originally Posted by EFHutton
Cabelas used to sell the best hunting clothes money could buy !


yes they did and at a fair price to!
Originally Posted by 19352012
Originally Posted by slumlord
lol


Flannelflage here

And church khakis on warm days



True story. I dont own a single flannel shirt. I do wear khakis frequently however.

Sportsmanship had too much inventory to survive. They had a huge fly fishing section in Ames iowa. Really? Ames? There isn't a trout for 100 miles from Ames and even then only in 1 direction. (Yes, I know it's actually Ankeny). The state does stock rainbows that you can catch with gummy bears but that doesnt justify the inventory they have.


Only sportsman I’ve been to is the Slidell LA.

Always wondered why they carry 2 aisles of fly stuff.

Son'uva..........
We have a Bass pro within 10 miles of the Sportman's warehouse. I wonder if the Sportman's is going to close ?? I haven't been in a Bass Pro in 3 years and didn't ever plan on going back. This stinks. When Sportman's was going through the bankruptcy I was still a loyal customer. We pulled Sportman's through the hard times. Now this. I'm speechless.

kwg
Originally Posted by slumlord
All these places end up transforming and catering to phaggots and fly fishermen

Columbia shirts, teva sandals, cbd oil, marshmallow candy peanuts, hiking book gaiters


No offense to phaggots


You must be bummed they don’t sell used tires to put on the roof of your trailer and used billy bob teeth.
Originally Posted by 260Remguy
BPS ruined Cabela's, but maybe BPS learned something from having screwed up Cabela's so badly and will let SW run as an independent operating company. The quality of Cabela's clothing lines dropped like a rock when they stopped being Cabela's brands and started being BPS brands.


I used to buy a lot o' schit from Cabelas, both as far as hunting clothing and casual clothing. Cabelas used to have some pretty damned decent schit. Hell, I had to head into work quickly today and threw on a heavy brown button up long sleeve that I've had for 15 years and wears like iron. Still looks new. Carhart like stuff that looks good. I've got a bunch of 1/3 zipper pullovers from cabelas as well that can't be found anymore, but which I could sure use a size smaller in these days. And their cabelas labeled base layers were great.

Wouldn't give a buck for any of the redhead labeled crap I've ever looked at.
We never have any inventory on anything. No guns, handguns, shotguns, limited ammo, fishing stuff, or even workable camping stuff. We sure have a lot of extra cheap camo though. They took the whole field and stream staff and made them buyers and that screwed up stuff. They even have us wearing new vests that look like walmart. those things came about two weeks ago. I should have guessed that the end was near.
Originally Posted by HitnRun
Originally Posted by slumlord
All these places end up transforming and catering to phaggots and fly fishermen

Columbia shirts, teva sandals, cbd oil, marshmallow candy peanuts, hiking book gaiters


No offense to phaggots


You must be bummed they don’t sell used tires to put on the roof of your trailer and used billy bob teeth.


Really????? Slumlord is quality peeps, ain't you been around enuff to tell that?

Pretty damn sure he has all of his Teef's.

Originally Posted by fburgtx
Originally Posted by slumlord
Originally Posted by fburgtx
Sitka vs. Kuiu vs. Redhead brand clothing. Discuss amongst yourselves....


For shooting house tactics...yes on the first two.


Cabelas kind of “bridged the gap” between the high dollar stuff, and the “garbage that just happens to be camo”.

Bass Pro has replaced most of the Cabelas gear with the Redhead crap. I don’t need Kuiu to sit in a deer blind, but at least the Cabelas stuff was decent. I can get “Gamewinner” brand st Academy that’s as good as the Redhead, and a heckuva lot cheaper, to sit in a dry 40 degree box...



Where does Killik fit in?
Are sportsmans was pretty bad already but its really going to suck now. Several of the guys there are jerks, and they claim to match prices but never do it. We just got a new place in Idaho Falls called ALs thats also out of Utah. ALs people are much more friendly and their prices are better. And they don't say crap like you can't have your one box of 22 shells today because we know you already have some at home.

Bb
Posted By: las Re: Sportsmans Warehouse is ruined - 12/22/20
Originally Posted by Jim in Idaho
And 2020 just can't let go without piling on more scheiss.

Sportsman's was the last best place around here to buy firearms and a good selection of reloading supplies at reasonable prices.

Originally Posted by mark shubert
And no Scheels within I don't know how many hundred miles!



You otta be here .....

Cabelas is 150 miles away and the local SW already sucked.
Absolutely terrible news! They ruined Cabela’s and now SW is next! Unbelievable!
Originally Posted by MadMooner
That might not be the worst news of 2020, but it’s top 5 for sure.

Bass Pro sucks donkey balls.


Truth.
Damn. WTF.
About right for the year 2020.
Cabelas was sliding years before BPS bought them.

I've been in a few sportsman's warehouse, but I don't know if I have one within 12 hours of me. They seemed like a good store.

Brick and mortar is dead.
Originally Posted by TimberRunner


Brick and mortar is dead.
Until you need a transfer or you need a place to fondle 20 guns before you order one online...
Originally Posted by UPhiker
Fin Feather and Fur is nice little Ohio chain. It's like Sportsmans Warehouse was when the original owner ran it. I guess I'll be going down to the Toledo store more often.


We used to stop at one on the way to Camp Perry, Ashland I think? They had some deals on reloading supplies that the vendors at Perry couldn't beat.
Originally Posted by flintlocke
A friend worked in the Medford OR S. Warehouse, far enough up the food chain to see spreadsheets ,claimed those clothing and junk slum mentioned was where the profit lays. He said some off brand camo clothing had a 200% markup. Does this remind anybody of the Dick's Sporting goods inventory?
Originally Posted by slumlord
All these places end up transforming and catering to phaggots and fly fishermen

Columbia shirts, teva sandals, cbd oil, marshmallow candy peanuts, hiking book gaiters


No offense to phaggots





Don't need an insider or a degree to figure that out.

Look at their catalogs. Every retailer goes to more and more
apparel, less hardware. Shoes must be fuggin gold mines!
Originally Posted by TimberRunner

. . .Brick and mortar is dead.


Brought it on ourselves by trying to save
$5 00 instead of patronizing the LGS's

I saw how bass amateur shop was a
long time ago. We've screwed ourselves
out of any other places to go, just like we
put wally world way up on top. Oh well. . .
I guess if there will ever be another time
when future shooters can buy firearms and
accoutrements and such, I guess the chinese
can crank out AR parts and reloading tools
and powders with the same ease that they
geared up to make Americans socks and
underwear and our aftermarket auto parts
Bitch Pro Shops and Karenbelas have way too much overhead.
Originally Posted by rockinbbar
I thought SW got ruined when the owner got caught screwing his secretary, his wife found out, and he had to shut down and sell half his stores...


A lot more illicit secretary pumping goes on
than ever gets published.
I've been put out of 2 companies that closed
up for liquidation after the head man was
caught being the "head " man
I don't have any business degree other than
working every day, and even I know not to
sh*t in my own nest .
Originally Posted by 16bore
Bitch Pro Shops and Karenbelas have way too much overhead.


All the dress casual crap and the gifty crafty crap
and gummi bears
Originally Posted by ShortMag11
Absolutely terrible news! They ruined Cabela’s and now SW is next! Unbelievable!


Fak, and agree..
Originally Posted by slumlord
All these places end up transforming and catering to phaggots and fly fishermen

Columbia shirts, teva sandals, cbd oil, marshmallow candy peanuts, hiking book gaiters


No offense to phaggots


I like marshmallow peanuts...
Well that is bad news for sure. Bass pro is a garbage vendor of hot trash. 2020—-the hits keep coming
Originally Posted by TimberRunner
Cabelas was sliding years before BPS bought them.

I've been in a few sportsman's warehouse, but I don't know if I have one within 12 hours of me. They seemed like a good store.

Brick and mortar is dead.

No it is not. Ass Pro, crapbelas and sportsmans doghouse are.
Originally Posted by Burleyboy
Are sportsmans was pretty bad already but its really going to suck now. Several of the guys there are jerks, and they claim to match prices but never do it. We just got a new place in Idaho Falls called ALs thats also out of Utah. ALs people are much more friendly and their prices are better. And they don't say crap like you can't have your one box of 22 shells today because we know you already have some at home.

Bb


I’ve worked in Logan, Utah a lot, 6 months at a time. One night a week I’d hit both Sportsman’s and Al’s and usually find something to buy. Then on way to airport would stop at Cabelas on north side of Salt Lake. Typically buy nothing. Then I’d swing by Scheels South of the airport and buy some more stuff. Now it looks like Al’s and Scheels will be getting my money in future trips. Need to throw Black Ovis in on those trips.

I’ve got the main BPS an hour from my house, and Rogers, AR store an hour south. Go in once every few months. Usually only buy anything from the catalog outlet.

Somebody is buying from BPS. Johnny Morris is buying every property between Springfield and Arkansas. 1,000 acres at a time. Doing a big waterfront plaza in Ozark just south of Springfield. Big resort south of Branson with Golf Course and marina on the lake. Handful of other destinations down there in the hills with his name on them. Good for him, he made a success out of himself that is for sure.
Frankly, for mom and pop gun shops having the big corporate stores with crappy selections and so-so prices merge into bigger crappier stores with even crappier prices is a good thing. Of course the small LGS will get the bubbas with a Big 5 ad expecting to buy a Mossberg 500 or 10/22 for $100 but those morons easily dealt with. Small independent LGS are not going anywhere. The advantage that online sales once enjoyed was the non-collection of sales tax but slowly the states are destroying that too. After closing my shop I said that I could make way more money with way less aggravation and licensing if I just opened a photo hut sized business that didn’t stock a single firearm but instead did transfers for online sales. No out of pocket money for inventory. No stupid gun morons that want to fingerfuck everything without buying. No bullshit stories about how the now 350# guy in front of me used to be a SEAL sniper which is why he wants a 30-30 because that’s what he carried in combat. No multimillion dollar liability insurance policy. No ATF spending days going through your inventory. No worries about theft. No hiring employees and staffing issues. No employee theft, etc

Small, simple, easy...
Weeeel.............Fahq....😠
When coming back home from Phoenix this weekend we stopped at the store in Sho-low and took a walk.

Found a few things i needed and looked at a lot of other stuff.

Don't know what's going on but they do have a lot of high priced stuff.

Might be after hearing this i might not go to another store again.
Kind of funny Bass Pros home owned in Southwest Missouri now the home of the stupid f****** rednecks I can't do nothing right now they almost you son of a b**** is by the balls
It started its plummet years ago when he cheated on his wife
Originally Posted by AcesNeights
Frankly, for mom and pop gun shops having the big corporate stores with crappy selections and so-so prices merge into bigger crappier stores with even crappier prices is a good thing. Of course the small LGS will get the bubbas with a Big 5 ad expecting to buy a Mossberg 500 or 10/22 for $100 but those morons easily dealt with. Small independent LGS are not going anywhere. The advantage that online sales once enjoyed was the non-collection of sales tax but slowly the states are destroying that too. After closing my shop I said that I could make way more money with way less aggravation and licensing if I just opened a photo hut sized business that didn’t stock a single firearm but instead did transfers for online sales. No out of pocket money for inventory. No stupid gun morons that want to fingerfuck everything without buying. No bullshit stories about how the now 350# guy in front of me used to be a SEAL sniper which is why he wants a 30-30 because that’s what he carried in combat. No multimillion dollar liability insurance policy. No ATF spending days going through your inventory. No worries about theft. No hiring employees and staffing issues. No employee theft, etc

Small, simple, easy...

I used a LGS a few years ago where the guy told me he does about 25 transfers a day @$30 each. This was in a small town in Iowa.
Originally Posted by UPhiker
Originally Posted by TimberRunner


Brick and mortar is dead.
Until you need a transfer or you need a place to fondle 20 guns before you order one online...


Or you prefer to try on a pair of boots/sandals. Or an expensive hunting jacket (anything over the $50 Walmart versions that is.
Posted By: NTG Re: Sportsmans Warehouse is ruined - 12/22/20
Not cool. There's a SW that's not even a quarter mile from the Crapela's in Idaho Falls. It'll be interesting to see what happens there.
Might as well have been Dick's that bought them out... crapola!
Posted By: WAM Re: Sportsmans Warehouse is ruined - 12/22/20
Too bad. SW had a way better supply of reloading components than Cowbellers. Hunting clothing always kinda sucked anyway. Maybe Johnny Morris is betting on Joe or Ho to put the skids on the internet sales of ammo and components? I liked SW better that Cowbellers anyway. BPS sucks. Happy Trails
Originally Posted by AcesNeights
Frankly, for mom and pop gun shops having the big corporate stores with crappy selections and so-so prices merge into bigger crappier stores with even crappier prices is a good thing. Of course the small LGS will get the bubbas with a Big 5 ad expecting to buy a Mossberg 500 or 10/22 for $100 but those morons easily dealt with. Small independent LGS are not going anywhere. The advantage that online sales once enjoyed was the non-collection of sales tax but slowly the states are destroying that too. After closing my shop I said that I could make way more money with way less aggravation and licensing if I just opened a photo hut sized business that didn’t stock a single firearm but instead did transfers for online sales. No out of pocket money for inventory. No stupid gun morons that want to fingerfuck everything without buying. No bullshit stories about how the now 350# guy in front of me used to be a SEAL sniper which is why he wants a 30-30 because that’s what he carried in combat. No multimillion dollar liability insurance policy. No ATF spending days going through your inventory. No worries about theft. No hiring employees and staffing issues. No employee theft, etc

Small, simple, easy...


The last ones went out of business here 15 years ago. Too often they can't get decent inventory.
Sportsman's here has been CHIT for years, as for Cabelas. A local place, JAX, and Scheels, kill those 2 worthless stores.
Posted By: las Re: Sportsmans Warehouse is ruined - 12/22/20
Originally Posted by Ranger99
Originally Posted by rockinbbar
I thought SW got ruined when the owner got caught screwing his secretary, his wife found out, and he had to shut down and sell half his stores...


A lot more illicit secretary pumping goes on
than ever gets published.
I've been put out of 2 companies that closed
up for liquidation after the head man was
caught being the "head " man
I don't have any business degree other than
working every day, and even I know not to
sh*t in my own nest .



Puts the f in GFY, don't it?
Can anyone tell me why this is bad and why I'm supposed to be angry? I havent been in a bass pro in years, nor a cabelas. I do have a sportsmans warehouse very close. Seriously asking because I dont know
Originally Posted by gunchamp
Can anyone tell me why this is bad and why I'm supposed to be angry? I havent been in a bass pro in years, nor a cabelas. I do have a sportsmans warehouse very close. Seriously asking because I dont know


Competition loss is bad.
Just wait until BassCabs Warehouse gets woke, gets favors from local politicians and starts sucking the assess of BHA.
Originally Posted by Ghostinthemachine
Scheels is great, I love going there.


Same.
Originally Posted by gunchamp
Can anyone tell me why this is bad and why I'm supposed to be angry? I havent been in a bass pro in years, nor a cabelas. I do have a sportsmans warehouse very close. Seriously asking because I dont know

You'll see. Everybody loves surprises. Except you after this.
Originally Posted by kaboku68
All I know is that they better continue to leave us the employee discount or I am going to switch over to the LGS or the other LGS for my part time job. Fotis will say the same thing. That is the only reason that 75% of the employees work there.

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When I was with Cabela's the discount was damn good, bAss Pro's sucks unless you're buying branded crap.
Posted By: Gus Re: Sportsmans Warehouse is ruined - 12/22/20
looks like further consolidation of the industry.
Originally Posted by 260Remguy
BPS ruined Cabela's, but maybe BPS learned something from having screwed up Cabela's so badly and will let SW run as an independent operating company. The quality of Cabela's clothing lines dropped like a rock when they stopped being Cabela's brands and started being BPS brands.



Cabela's had pretty strict quality control on their products, bAss Pro, not hardly the mark up on their crap is 150-200%. JM loves junk that is where he makes his money. He is not a firearm enthusiast and only has them to keep people coming in. When I met with him regarding the Gun Library he did not have a grasp on it at all. He spoke as if, shut down would give more floor space to more profitable products.
Bass Pro completely screwed up Cabelas in less than a year, would expect the same of SW.
Originally Posted by kaboku68
We never have any inventory on anything. No guns, handguns, shotguns, limited ammo, fishing stuff, or even workable camping stuff. We sure have a lot of extra cheap camo though. They took the whole field and stream staff and made them buyers and that screwed up stuff. They even have us wearing new vests that look like walmart. those things came about two weeks ago. I should have guessed that the end was near.



My fear is my son Sam will keep this one open just buying knives. 🤦🏼‍♂️
Gunchamp
Wait until you go in for bullets and find an empty shelf behind the .308 180 gr., one box of. 243 60 gr., and not even an empty spot for .41 210 gr. Just an example, deoending on what you need.
Originally Posted by gunchamp
Can anyone tell me why this is bad and why I'm supposed to be angry? I havent been in a bass pro in years, nor a cabelas. I do have a sportsmans warehouse very close. Seriously asking because I dont know


You're going back to the age of 100% cotton clothes from China that haven't anything remotely predictable regarding fit. Virtually no reloading components/tools/hardware. Camping and fishing gear reminiscent of any Wal-Mart that's within 10Mi of a lake. Firearms inventories will approximate that of K-Mart during it's death-throes.
I have a mini Sportsman’s where I live and it already sucks. I usually had to drive 30-50 miles to a full size Sportsman’s or I just go the Scheels. I will now just go straight to Scheels.

I do sometimes stop at Cabelas in Lehi, UT to see just how bad it has become. It’s a train wreck.
Posted By: sse Re: Sportsmans Warehouse is ruined - 12/22/20
i really don't understand why so many formerly great and iconic brand retailers have to cave to the conglomerates and hedge funds. if they bob and weave a bit, which would not be easy, maybe a reset is possible.


but who knows, maybe it opens the door for start ups setting themselves apart
Originally Posted by sse
i really don't understand why so many formerly great and iconic brand retailers have to cave to the conglomerates and hedge funds. if they bob and weave a bit, which would not be easy, maybe a reset is possible.


but who knows, maybe it opens the door for start ups setting themselves apart


Its all about ownership. The founders get offered some serious coin for their business, they gotta retire some day right? And they're taken over by huge holding companies that don't know or care about hunting, shooting or the lifestyle. They hire efficiency experts to stream line everything in to buy and selling junk the more with their logo the better. Race to the bottom.
Awww hell
Really sad news......
Originally Posted by tzone
Originally Posted by Ghostinthemachine
Scheels is great, I love going there.


Same.

And Reed's
Krapp.
Love Bass Pro or hate Bass Pro it's still a true American success story. Being local to the national headquarters and watching it evolve from a rack of crankbaits at the local liquor store for what it is now has been quite a story
Originally Posted by test1328
Yep, that blows. I'm sure Jon Barker (CEO) is cashing in. How you can foster an "anti-Cabela's" or "anti-Bass Pro" image and then sell out to them, I'll never know. It's like selling your soul to the devil.

I'm with Springcove - Scheels it is.


Everything has its price, the purpose of a business is to make money. They must have gotten the price they wanted that made it worthwhile
Originally Posted by AKwolverine
Better get your Tikka SLs now. You can bet they’re going up in price, and they will likely find some way to screw them up.



Excellent point. I should have bought when they were $50 off a few months ago. I do want to get another SL, and they wont get any cheaper now.
Stopped at two different stores today and asked a couple of different guys at the gun counter what their impression was on the buy-out and when they knew. One had not heard until I told him; the other found out this morning in a meeting with managers. Neither were happy and were both aware of the decay within the Cabelas system since that debacle.
That sucks.....

Well look at it in another light....

With Biden and Harris in the White House, we won't have any guns to shoot ammo with anyway and it won't be available anyway...

and what they don't take away via Confiscation.... they will tax it thru the roof were even rich guys won't be able to afford it...

and besides, the democRATS are just doing all of this to turn the keys to our nation over to China anyway....

2024, there will be no America, for Trump to run for a second term for anyway.....

we'll be a third world English speaking country, a vassel state for the Chinese to Control.....

courtesy of the DemocRAT Party....
Originally Posted by Seafire
That sucks.....

Well look at it in another light....

With Biden and Harris in the White House, we won't have any guns to shoot ammo with anyway and it won't be available anyway...

and what they don't take away via Confiscation.... they will tax it thru the roof were even rich guys won't be able to afford it...

and besides, the democRATS are just doing all of this to turn the keys to our nation over to China anyway....

2024, there will be no America, for Trump to run for a second term for anyway.....

we'll be a third world English speaking country, a vassel state for the Chinese to Control.....

courtesy of the DemocRAT Party....


Yes, now is great time for you to get rid of your extra guns and ammo. You should be buying large sacks of Chinese rice instead.
Originally Posted by blindshooter
Originally Posted by UPhiker
Fin Feather and Fur is nice little Ohio chain. It's like Sportsmans Warehouse was when the original owner ran it. I guess I'll be going down to the Toledo store more often.


We used to stop at one on the way to Camp Perry, Ashland I think? They had some deals on reloading supplies that the vendors at Perry couldn't beat.


Ashland is their first store and the largest. They have about six now, all over the North Coast including one nearer Camp Perry.

The local BassPro went out of business years ago. There is a Cabela's but no one I know goes there. I buy almost all my stuff at Fin-Feather-Fur. In the past that's included rifles, shotguns, clothing, and pistols. Now I buy mostly shotgun reloading components. As of two months ago they had what I needed in stock and their price for shot, from what I can tell, is cheaper than in most parts of the country.
They are the Savage Axis of sporting goods.
Posted By: NTG Re: Sportsmans Warehouse is ruined - 12/23/20
Maybe we should all send a petition in to Bass Pro imploring then to leave Sportsman's as is, just leave it alone and milk profits off of it....
Originally Posted by Slavek
Originally Posted by Seafire
That sucks.....

Well look at it in another light....

With Biden and Harris in the White House, we won't have any guns to shoot ammo with anyway and it won't be available anyway...

and what they don't take away via Confiscation.... they will tax it thru the roof were even rich guys won't be able to afford it...

and besides, the democRATS are just doing all of this to turn the keys to our nation over to China anyway....

2024, there will be no America, for Trump to run for a second term for anyway.....

we'll be a third world English speaking country, a vassel state for the Chinese to Control.....

courtesy of the DemocRAT Party....


Yes, now is great time for you to get rid of your extra guns and ammo. You should be buying large sacks of Chinese rice instead.


stated like a true communist.....

Well Slob X.... I don't do neither rice or fishheads....

my guns and ammo will go with me when they come to take them... staffed by commies like you...

and, I say it now and say it when..... G F Y....Dickhead...
Stopped going to Cabelas along I15 altogether months ago when they let all of their original Gun Library people go. That was the last straw for me; the manager in Lehi had been there since the start and was very knowledgeable.

SW, while not perfect, was IMHO, the best option in Utah as far as the bigger stores go. They were holding their own, if not kicking arse, as far as I could tell in our local market. The sale to BP was more likely due to management and stockholders wanting to take a good profit and run with the $ rather than trying compete for the long term. My selfish side says shame on them, but I did try to support them whole-heartedly after Cabela's demise.

Sheels is "OK" if you like sportswear, bicycles, and Ferris wheel rides I guess. The firearms area in SLC has kind of gone downhill, once again IMHO, since the store opened~8-10 years ago. The Midwestern stores may be a little different but on my last visit to Fargo a few years ago, the Scheels stores there were nothing compared to what I enjoyed there in the early 1990's as far as there emphasis on fishing gear and firearms. The even sold Lund boats!

Gallensons in SLC and Gunnies in Orem are the last links the good old days on the Wasatch Front wrt LGS's.
Originally Posted by MichieD
They are the Savage Axis of sporting goods.


Nah. The Savage Axis, you get what you pay for...

BPS is like the Remington 710/770 of sporting goods...
I admire Johnny Morris as a business man
Like him or not he has built an empire

But Cabelas BP really suck
Sportsmans Warehouse will be the same
Hank
Originally Posted by ldholton
Love Bass Pro or hate Bass Pro it's still a true American success story. Being local to the national headquarters and watching it evolve from a rack of crankbaits at the local liquor store for what it is now has been quite a story

Right on
Hank
SW was pretty good in flagstaff, once they got here. (they had a 3-4 year lag between when they announced and when they finally showed up)

But they were subject to all the same supply and demand stuff. primers, ammo, etc.

half good stuff, half chinese made crap...but what are ya going to do?
Originally Posted by ldholton
Love Bass Pro or hate Bass Pro it's still a true American success story. Being local to the national headquarters and watching it evolve from a rack of crankbaits at the local liquor store for what it is now has been quite a story


Kind of like California. Used to b e amazing until mismanagement. phug bp and its cheap Chinese schit
Well this all sucks. Hope it doesnt go to chit. Nice having that store not too far away
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