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The peasants are literally storming the financial castles of the elite and nobody on here has even mentioned it.
What no link, shocked I am, shocked.
Originally Posted by steve4102
What no link, shocked I am, shocked.


Do you’re own work. I can’t be expected to educate you forever.
Thank you for all the hard work you’ve put in on this project, the cause owes you a great debt.

Take some time off for a while and enjoy yourself and imagine your ancestors smiling down on you with pride.
I could have entitled it “How to turn $40k into $22 million and make a hedge fund manager commit suicide.”
Look at AMC, GME the past few days. Big Hedge funds aint happy as they are used to being masters of the universe. Im sure many calls were made to the corrupt SEC the past few days.
A bunch of Wall Street investors have been shorting GameStop stock betting it will go the way of video stores. Day traders are driving up the price forcing them to close out their positions. So far it's cost Wall Street about $3.3 Billion. It's kind of funny but the day traders will get screwed eventually because they can't win a war of attrition against that kind of money.
“ politician does something sketchy”

You don’t know what headline I’m talking about? How dare you be so lazy, figure it out.
Originally Posted by JoeBob
I could have entitled it “How to turn $40k into $22 million and make a hedge fund manager commit suicide.”


Do you think that the brokerage outages are being faked/coordinated in order to protect the short sellers? With what's been going on in this country lately nothing seems to far-fetched.
Originally Posted by There_Ya_Go
Originally Posted by JoeBob
I could have entitled it “How to turn $40k into $22 million and make a hedge fund manager commit suicide.”


Do you think that the brokerage outages are being faked/coordinated in order to protect the short sellers? With what's been going on in this country lately nothing seems to far-fetched.


Absolutely.
I started a Robinhood account last spring and have done pretty well. I've doubled my money (not hard to do if you started last spring). No, I didn't buy a bunch of GameStop last week.

It won't be long until the SEC is all over it. Not only is it screwing with the hedge fund big boys, but the plebs can now play the market without having to pay a bunch of commissions.

Massatwoshits has already sued Robinhood for more or less making a game out of investing and failing to tell people they can lose money (pretty obvious that the nanny state doesn't think that the proles can handle investing on their own).

Wealth building (outside of just going to work and paying bills) by the hoi polloi in this country has always been frowned upon by the elite and I doubt Robinhood (or any of the other investing apps.) still exist, at least in their current state, by this time next year. Particularly with the current political climate.
Originally Posted by JoeBob
The peasants are literally storming the financial castles of the elite and nobody on here has even mentioned it.

Day traders are now peasants, and the financial castles of the elites have lost just over $3B, thereby causing suicide?

This is a nothing burger, with nothing sauce on nothing-seed nothing. For the actual elites, $3 billion is a lot like $300 quadrillion. It's all just a means of controlling the rest of us, and they can make up as much fake money as they want as long as people continue to chase it.

What makes a human being a peasant, exactly?
Aware of it - along with a lot of other things.

Unlike some people here - I don't start a thread with every thought that runs through my head or post every link I read in a day.


Big guys taking it in the shorts - wallstreetbets will move onto the next shiny object eventually. People will make money, some will lose money.
Originally Posted by JoeBob
Originally Posted by steve4102
What no link, shocked I am, shocked.


Do you’re own work. I can’t be expected to educate you forever.


Well, thank god we don't have to worry about some rube teaching' us about cypherin' oughts and decimals when he doesn't know how to properly use "your vs. you're".
Talked about here:

http://voxday.blogspot.com/2021/01/gamers-1-bankers-0.html
I find this very interesting, and will be checking back in to see what the fire braintrust thinks about it. I’ve never shorted a stock and doubt I ever will, but this thing with gamestop is fascinating. I expect government to jump im at amy time and put a stop to it. I can’t wait to see what all that screws up.
Originally Posted by gregintenn
I find this very interesting, and will be checking back in to see what the fire braintrust thinks about it. I’ve never shorted a stock and doubt I ever will, but this thing with gamestop is fascinating. I expect government to jump im at amy time and put a stop to it. I can’t wait to see what all that screws up.


But nothing that's happened is illegal.

Group of hedge fund guys get together and make public their short on a stock. It suppresses the stock price and they make money.

WSB basically just called their bet. Got their friends together to keep buying disregarding the fundamentals of the stock to push it up and forcing losses on those hedge guys.

What's the difference? Someone in Bristoe's link said "we gamers can be retarded longer than they are solvent" - talking BILLION dollar losses for these hedge guys. Hedge guys manipulate the market all the time - all that happened is someone manipulated it back the other way.

Gov may step in via regulation but right now - there's nothing to step in on I can see.
No link, did not happen!
So the little guys won one......
Originally Posted by JoeBob
I could have entitled it “How to turn $40k into $22 million and make a hedge fund manager commit suicide.”


Oh, now I get it. I posted about it in the “stock market is booming thread” yesterday. But most of the people here think they know a lot more about investing than they actually know so it likely sailed well above heads.

The move on AMC was discussed yesterday afternoon and I bought a bit just in case it went like the GME squeeze. Wish I’d bought a lot more....

Outjewing Jews is good sport.
Originally Posted by gregintenn
I expect government to jump im at amy time and put a stop to it.


Trading on GME was halted several times yesterday and today. It was painful to get a sell order to go. I think the same happened on Monday but not sure, I wasn’t trying to sell.

They halted AMC at least once today.

One of the Jewish hedge fund managers involved got the Jews at CNBC to let him on to portray himself as the victim in it all, a skill he no doubt learned in the womb. He also got fellow Jews at a different firm to prop him up to weather it. Neither of those tactics worked.

It is good to see the effort resisted all that money power and usual Jew tricks. Also nice to see the pump hit the breaking point for at least one of the funds shorting, since today is International Holocaust Rememberance Day.
It's damn sure fascinating to watch.
The Algorithms work until everyone starts splitting kings and hitting on 17.

It's like the end of Trading Places, but in real life.
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Originally Posted by horse1
The Algorithms work until everyone starts splitting kings and hitting on 17.

It's like the end of Trading Places, but in real life.


Love that analogy. Splitting kings is not necessary bad business, but a damn good way to piss off the table.
So how does this thing end?



It isn’t just GameStop.

Shares of the Texas-based videogame retailer surged as much as 145% on Monday alone, before giving up most of their gains to end up only 18%. But GameStop Corp. is far from alone in going vertical this year.

Everything from a hydrogen battery maker to a struggling movie-theater chain have rocketed in the past few weeks. Behind the swings, many see ordinary investors, stuck at home in the pandemic, swapping tips and hatching trading strategies on online forums like Reddit’s WallStreetBets—often buying things Wall Street has bet against. Many tout their long-shot wagers with the expression “YOLO,” or, “You only live once.”

Here’s a look at what else has their attention:

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AMC Entertainment Holdings AMC 282.08% Inc.

Shares of the movie-theater operator have risen more than 35% this week after the company announced a $917 million financing deal to avoid filing for bankruptcy. But day traders’ enthusiasm for the company had already allowed it to sell millions of dollars’ worth of shares last year, helping raise much needed cash.


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BlackBerry Ltd. BB 34.46%

Security software and service provider BlackBerry is another stock with a notable short position finding support online from individual investors. Shares have climbed around 30% this week, leaving many analysts scratching their heads. The company said Monday it wasn’t aware of any material developments or change in its business that would account for the recent jump.


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NIO Inc. NIO -4.94%

The Chinese electric-vehicle maker has received enduring interest from individual traders on social media platforms including Discord and Reddit, sending shares of its ADR up more than 1,150% in the past 12 months. NIO now ranks among the world’s top five auto makers, with a market capitalization around $96 billion. The company delivered 43,728 vehicles in total last year. That compares to around 449,000 deliveries by Tesla Inc., TSLA -1.35% and more than 9 million from Volkswagen AG .


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Palantir Technologies Inc. PLTR 7.48%

Data-analytics firm Palantir Technologies’ shares have soared over 270% since the company went public back in September, making it one of last year’s best performing stock offerings. The company has also become a favorite of individual investors posting online, who like it because of the exposure to big data and government contracts. On Tuesday, Palantir showed off the latest developments in its software to the public for the first time ever, a move some analysts expect to have positive ramifications for the stock.


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Plug Power, PLUG -11.25% Inc.

Shares of hydrogen battery maker Plug Power have gained more than 750% in the past six months, powered by investors eager to cash in on the green economy. Individual investors online lauded the fuel-cell specialist as the next big thing after South Korea-based SK Holdings Co. invested $1.5 billion in the company earlier this month. Others are less optimistic, with hedge funds including Kerrisdale Capital Management betting against the stock, saying hydrogen batteries face numerous challenges including efficiency and safety.


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Bed Bath & Beyond Inc. BBBY 36.56%

Shares surged as much as 50% Monday before paring gains and are now up around 70% in 2021, even after the home-goods retailer this month reported third-quarter earnings per share of 8 cents, short of the 19 cents analysts expected, along with a 5% drop in revenue from the same period last year. Online traders point to an early 2020 change in management and the fact that the company is buying back shares as signs that the share price will continue to increase.


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Originally Posted by ltppowell
Originally Posted by horse1
The Algorithms work until everyone starts splitting kings and hitting on 17.

It's like the end of Trading Places, but in real life.


Love that analogy. Splitting kings is not necessary bad business, but a damn good way to piss off the table.


Screw the table. I’m playing to win not so the other guy can win.
Has Wall Street bet against Ruger yet?
It’s a wild ride. Elon Musk is in on it because one of the hedge fund managers once bragged about shorting Tesla. So, he is out to break that guy. All of that and at some point, someone is still going to make an ungodly killing shorting it. Just might not be the people who usually do it.
Originally Posted by gregintenn
So how does this thing end?


Most of the GME fun should end Friday, when a large chunk of shorts come due, unless the shorts are all liquidated by then.

I have a sell order for $1,488 and I’m thinking it will trigger.

Trump is being blamed: https://archive.is/cC7oJ
Originally Posted by Stickfight
Originally Posted by gregintenn
I expect government to jump im at amy time and put a stop to it.


Trading on GME was halted several times yesterday and today. It was painful to get a sell order to go. I think the same happened on Monday but not sure, I wasn’t trying to sell.

They halted AMC at least once today.

One of the Jewish hedge fund managers involved got the Jews at CNBC to let him on to portray himself as the victim in it all, a skill he no doubt learned in the womb. He also got fellow Jews at a different firm to prop him up to weather it. Neither of those tactics worked.

It is good to see the effort resisted all that money power and usual Jew tricks. Also nice to see the pump hit the breaking point for at least one of the funds shorting, since today is International Holocaust Rememberance Day.

laugh

Ol' toot will be along shortly to admonish the goy.
Originally Posted by Stickfight


Trump is being blamed: https://archive.is/cC7oJ


Say it ain’t so...
Originally Posted by 16bore
So the little guys won one......

Weaponized autists.
Hedge Fund lobbyists in DC will be throwing cash around like mad to get some new trading rules enacted in their favor. The hedge funds have never have any regard for other stockholder of these companies so it is enjoyable to see them get burned.
Originally Posted by JoeBob
It’s a wild ride. Elon Musk is in on it because one of the hedge fund managers once bragged about shorting Tesla. So, he is out to break that guy. All of that and at some point, someone is still going to make an ungodly killing shorting it. Just might not be the people who usually do it.


Originally Posted by add
Weaponized autists.


Like 2 geeks on campus who've discovered the only wall-flower with no gag-reflex. They're out to get each-other and don't care who comes with them.
Originally Posted by efw
Originally Posted by Stickfight


Trump is being blamed: https://archive.is/cC7oJ


Say it ain’t so...


Why is this hilarious? Either I’m too stupid to understand or see a big middle finger....

(CNN) — At the core of Donald Trump's angry populist appeal was -- and is -- this sentiment: The elites think they know better than you. They think they can tell you how to live and what to believe. But guess what? We the people are smarter than the elites!

Trump elucidated this argument in its purest form at a rally in North Dakota in 2018 when he went on this riff:
"I meet these people they call them 'the elite.' These people. I look at them, I say, 'That's elite?' We got more money, we got more brains, we got better houses, apartments, we got nicer boats, we're smarter than they are, and they say they're elite? We're the elite. You're the elite. We're the elite."

"So I said the other day, let's keep calling these people—and let's face it, they've been stone-cold losers, the elite, the elite—so let them keep calling themselves the elite. But we're going to call ourselves—and remember you are indeed, you work harder, but you are indeed smarter than them—let's call ourselves from now on the super-elite. We're the super-elite."

What made Trump's argument so potent, politically speaking, is that he wasn't just calling out the elites. He was saying that Average Joes needed to rise up and actually show them how wrong they were -- that voting him for him was the best way to express their anger and frustration with the condescension of their alleged bettors. Donald Trump offered himself up as a collective middle finger to the elites. And he won.

All of which brings me to the current -- seemingly inexplicable -- stock surge of GameStop, the video-game seller that has made its money over the years thanks to its locations in malls.
The origins of the surge are in the prevalent belief among Wall Street sharps -- professional investors -- that GameStop's stock, even before this recent spike, was overvalued. After all, shopping malls are in a long decline -- "Malls are doomed: 25% will be gone in 5 years," read a CNN headline in 2017 -- that has only been exacerbated by the Covid-19 pandemic.
As a result of the belief among the pro investor crowd that GameStop was, essentially, doomed, they began shorting the stock -- essentially betting on it to fail. This happens all the time to a variety of stocks with very little fanfare. It is the way of the modern stock market.

Except that this time, amateur investors decided to revolt against the pros. Using Reddit -- and a subreddit known as r/wallstreetbets -- the amateurs began a coordinated effort of buying GameStop stock to drive its price higher and higher. (It's worth noting that Reddit was also a gathering spot for some of the most ardent Trump supporters in 2016.)
That effort to screw the pros -- people with a short position on a stock that is surging have major vulnerabilities the higher the stock goes -- got an unexpected boost from none other than iconoclast-in-chief and Tesla founder Elon Musk, who tweeted "Gamestonk!" with a link to the "wallstreetbets" subreddit on Tuesday.
(Musk has also been a longtime critic of social media censoring and was a prominent Covid-19 skeptic. Sound like anyone else we know?)
And there's no question that the populist revolt has worked for GameStop stock. On December 28, it was trading at $20.99 a share. On Wednesday, it was a shade under $335 a share.

What's the end game for the GameStop surgers? Like, now that they have proven the point that they can take a stock that the pros have declared moribund and revive it -- at least for a moment -- what do they do now? Because they don't really believe that GameStop is suddenly the new Amazon or Apple or Google. It's still mostly a business that derives its value from brick and mortar stores in malls. Which, again, is not exactly a big growth area in the coming years.

The point is that there is no real point beyond showing up the pros -- proving to them that they aren't as smart as they think they are and that they don't have the ability to control everything.

Which, again, has its roots in Trumpism. The entire notion of Trump's candidacy and presidency was to stick it to the elites. And then, well, uh, there wasn't really a plan beyond that. The screwjob was the point. (Montreal screwjob reference!)
That strategy -- if that is even a word that can be associated with what this is -- has massive limits. Sticking it to the man will only get you so far. It's not a solution to any problem. It's just a way to express frustration, anger and a feeling of helplessness.

Think of it this way: Giving someone the finger might make you feel good in the moment. But it doesn't solve anything.
I drove a vehicle 166 miles one way and drove another back 166 miles and they were equipped with XM satellite radio. Station 113 is Fox Business news. It seems some folks are crushing Game Stop and riding it up and the short sellers are getting hammered. They gambled and they lost. Pi$$ on them. But, they have the dems in their back pocket. I'm sure they will send my grand kids the bill.

kwg
What was the stock selling for when it was shorted and what is it now?
The small investors are going to have to find a way to coordinate other than through open channels of the internet.

http://voxday.blogspot.com/2021/01/its-afraid.html
Gamers gonna game.
Originally Posted by Bristoe
What was the stock selling for when it was shorted and what is it now?


IIRC when GME kicked off it was 5 bucks a share. Why hedge guys are shorting 5 dollar stocks is beyond me.
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Thos doesn’t seem to bode well for the future of hedge funds in general.
Originally Posted by Bristoe
What was the stock selling for when it was shorted and what is it now?


The short sells started getting noticeable when it was around the $10 mark. Around the middle of this month when GME climbed up to about $20 on good news the shorts started selling a lot of calls, to the point where something like 140% of the total shares outstanding were being shorted. What is happening is a mix of a squeezing the (((people))) who shorted the stock and have unlimited risk, and putting gamma pressure on the call (((writers))) so they can't hedge or at least it is very expensive to hedge.

(((Melvin Capital))) needed $3BB from their fellow hedge funders to close out their position yesterday. It looks like (((Citron Research)) closed theirs today and it will be beautiful to see what it cost them.

If any regulatory changes come out of this it will probably be limits on options so retail investors can't get leverage like this again. Levers long enough to move the market are usually reserved for (((the financial elite))).

I saw on Twitter that the short sellers lost $14.3 billion today on GameStop.
Fuuuck em.

They will be coming after it all pretty soon. You think your 401k is safe?

Think again. It’ll need to be redistributed the social good. Just look the world over.

It’s coming.
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Originally Posted by ltppowell
Originally Posted by horse1
The Algorithms work until everyone starts splitting kings and hitting on 17.

It's like the end of Trading Places, but in real life.


Love that analogy. Splitting kings is not necessary bad business, but a damn good way to piss off the table.

In a single deck game with 4 other players and 4 aces still out there after the first round ...................it is certainly not bad business.

But, depending on where I'm sitting, it just might pissmeoff immensely
Originally Posted by JoeBob
The peasants are literally storming the financial castles of the elite and nobody on here has even mentioned it.


Really?

Originally Posted by bowfisher
Originally Posted by JohnBurns
The Gamestop shorts getting killed has a lot to do with the overall drop, IMO.

Next couple of days might be pretty sporty.

Hedge funds have to be sweating bullets on their exposure to naked short positions and how a few million day traders can get organized.


Power to the People! haha. Some big money dudes losing their a$$ this week. Just watch, now the Bigs on Wall St will be clamoring for more " regulation " to protect their monopoly.

Luckily ( I didn't even look at the short interest, just chart pattern) I had started a position in AMC earlier this week. That will buy some primers that I'm short on. wink MAGA
I kinda enjoyed watching the fortunes won and lost on GME, but in all mathematical fairness, I'm not sure it should be possible to short more shares than actually exist.
Originally Posted by toltecgriz
I kinda enjoyed watching the fortunes won and lost on GME, but in all mathematical fairness, I'm not sure it should be possible to short more shares than actually exist.

You mean like

"There oughta be a law"

??
I’m too old to be playing that game any more, but it’s a wild ride.


I’ll sleep easy tonight. In that game it’s not easy to stick it to the man.

Well done young bucks !
Originally Posted by toltecgriz
I kinda enjoyed watching the fortunes won and lost on GME, but in all mathematical fairness, I'm not sure it should be possible to short more shares than actually exist.


Shorting is always a futures play.

You have the time of the contract to purchase the shares.

Better get busy. grin

Sure going to suck buying @ 350$ to fulfill @ 18$.

Reap the Whirlwind.

https://twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/status/1354643375610322945
I had fun with it all day today. Got about two hours of sleep last night, but it was worth it!
I see in extended hours it reached $420 so that's another goal down.

If $1000 falls before close today, then $1488 before Friday close would be in the bag.

This bit of elitism from the shlimazels at Citron didn't hold up well.

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There was a sizable Verizon internet outage on Tuesday (1/26) morning into early afternoon, impacting the east coast. Seems like it happened right as the big frenzy got started.

https://nypost.com/2021/01/26/is-verizon-fios-down-internet-outage-spanning-northeastern-us/

Things that make you go.... hhhmmm.
Originally Posted by copperking81
Things that make you go.... hhhmmm.


I did a good bit of work on real estate in and around Brooklyn, and it would not surprise me at all if those Jews had that Verizon fiber cut to slow this thing down.

(((They've))) issued Order 66 to activate their shabbos goyim. Elizabeth Warren issued a statement. A couple of brokerages have put reduce only restrictions on GME and AMC, and AMC announced a dilution.

The cool thing about this, is it will provide insight into some market mechanics that were previously dark arts.
Originally Posted by gregintenn
So how does this thing end?


My guess is in a massive bear market at some point in the not too distant future. If I knew when I would tell ya'll and we would all get rich together.

I remember this exact same talk about the "little guy" being "empowered" and "they don't control it WE do" when Etrade first came out in the late 90's early 2000's when that bubble was riding the crazy train. The people squeezing the short sellers today probably were in diapers. God I feel old.

Anyway like another person said how in the heck do you short a low float stock and make it public anyway? That is democrat voter stupid right there.
This a fascinating thing going on

On one hand it looks like a buch of little guys sticking it to "the man " but why? That is a big financial risk just for revenge.

Or a bunch of folks working together to move the market to make a pile.
But that takes coordination, and you have to cash out of your position to make money, and when thet srart cashing out this thing will drop so fast a lot of those folks wont get out on time.

That leaves my third thought, a major player (China?) , causing a disruption in our markets to weaken us.
I do believe there are people jumping in now that there is
momentum to this, but I think a larger player started this.

Sort of ironic, the folks that think they are sticking ir to the big guys, are following an even bigger player.

Dunno, I am just a dumb farmer, but something seems off to me.
But who knows, markets have acted irrationally before.
Fascinating

Following
Hank
Originally Posted by ruger438
This a fascinating thing going on

On one hand it looks like a buch of little guys sticking it to "the man " but why? That is a big financial risk just for revenge.

Or a bunch of folks working together to move the market to make a pile.
But that takes coordination, and you have to cash out of your position to make money, and when thet srart cashing out this thing will drop so fast a lot of those folks wont get out on time.

That leaves my third thought, a major player (China?) , causing a disruption in our markets to weaken us.
I do believe there are people jumping in now that there is
momentum to this, but I think a larger player started this.

Sort of ironic, the folks that think they are sticking ir to the big guys, are following an even bigger player.

Dunno, I am just a dumb farmer, but something seems off to me.


This makes a heck of a lot more sense than than a bunch of "little guys" from a forum or whatever pulling this off. People have been posting stock tips on the internet ever since it became mainstream and nothing much ever came of it.
Seems like the elites privy to the inside stuff, $1,000 lunches, and marble floored executive suites took a shot from Cheeto eating couch bound gamers on iPhones.

Nothing is better than hearing them cry “it’s not fair”.
Reading this morning and some financial people are saying hedge funds lost $30 billion yesterday on this.

For those of you saying the little guy can’t do this, you’re wrong. It’s simply a case of enough little guys getting together to more or less create their own hedge fund. They are simply acting in concert.
Originally Posted by JoeBob
Reading this morning and some financial people are saying hedge funds lost $30 billion yesterday on this.

For those of you saying the little guy can’t do this, you’re wrong. It’s simply a case of enough little guys getting together to more or less create their own hedge fund. They are simply acting in concert.


The little guys together can do this, but it is unusual.

Bottom line is: (in my opinion)
The hedge funds made an unwise move

And the Reddit folks are making an equally unwise move.
Originally Posted by ruger438
Originally Posted by JoeBob
Reading this morning and some financial people are saying hedge funds lost $30 billion yesterday on this.

For those of you saying the little guy can’t do this, you’re wrong. It’s simply a case of enough little guys getting together to more or less create their own hedge fund. They are simply acting in concert.


The little guys together can do this, but it is unusual.

Bottom line is: (in my opinion)
The hedge funds made an unwise move

And the Reddit folks are making an equally unwise move.




Not really. Most of them aren’t really into to it for very much.
Originally Posted by Bristoe



I found this paragraph especially interesting and am curious when something like this will happen in the political arena:

Even the cries about "it's unfair, it's coordinated" are the same. It's perhaps worth noting that historically, dating back to the days of Rome, once the people get sufficiently irritated, they have no trouble at all slaughtering the elite whose power is based on the very authority they have been abusing and in which the people no longer believe.
Originally Posted by WhiteFawn
Originally Posted by Bristoe



I found this paragraph especially interesting and am curious when something like this will happen in the political arena:

Even the cries about "it's unfair, it's coordinated" are the same. It's perhaps worth noting that historically, dating back to the days of Rome, once the people get sufficiently irritated, they have no trouble at all slaughtering the elite whose power is based on the very authority they have been abusing and in which the people no longer believe.

I’ve been wondering the same.
I read that the average guy participating on Reddit is into it for about 6k - that's not a ton really.

If you're not familiar with reddit - it really is a weird place and sub reddits can get really out there.
Originally Posted by ruger438


That leaves my third thought, a major player (China?) , causing a disruption in our markets to weaken us.
I do believe there are people jumping in now that there is
momentum to this, but I think a larger player started this.

Sort of ironic, the folks that think they are sticking ir to the big guys, are following an even bigger player.



And its being done under the guise of populism......."getting even" and "sticking it to the man"....which given our current climate is perfect.

Hedge funds blowing up is not necessarily a good thing. Long Term Capital in the 1990's anyone? They have to raise capital somehow. Either the government bails them out or they have to sell longs to make margin calls.

Oh, and the credit default swaps they all have on each other.
Originally Posted by ruger438
you have to cash out of your position to make money


Only of the primary goal is to make money. Otherwise you can do whatever you want.

While there are plenty of participants who have profit as their primary goal, there are also plenty who do not. OrangeOkie posted a screenshot of a WSB user’s GME call stack that is up 41,000+%....there are people involved who are genuinely unconcerned about taking that profit and would be just fine with watching most of it disappear in return for getting something else they want.

And these aren’t wealthy people who can “afford to lose” a $20MM opportunity. Just run of the mill retail investors who are interested in proving a theory. That should be the more frightening thing for the Wall Street pros.
Now the elites are covering their own with Interactive Brokers curbing trading of the stocks targeted for the shot sell squeeze. Hedge funds short selling companies into the ground are the scum of the [bleep] earth as far as I'm concerned. Triple fugg em. They've been crying like babies. Now they've been covered. [bleep] it all.
This has been so much fun to watch, can't wait to see which one they pick next.
Originally Posted by RJY66
Hedge funds blowing up is not necessarily a good thing.


Blowing up (((hedge funds))) that are running 140% naked shorts on companies is a good thing. Even AMC which was 60% shorted, is a good thing.

These people are destroyers, not builders. Yesterday one of them was kvetching about how he dedicated his life to learning investing, read The Intelligent Investor when he was just a kid, and all that, only to get liquidated by a bunch of amateurs manipulating the market. How can a Jew like that be an asset to our economy if he can’t even follow the most basic principle laid out in the book he claims is his foundation?
Originally Posted by ruger438
This a fascinating thing going on

On one hand it looks like a buch of little guys sticking it to "the man " but why? That is a big financial risk just for revenge.

Or a bunch of folks working together to move the market to make a pile.
But that takes coordination, and you have to cash out of your position to make money, and when thet srart cashing out this thing will drop so fast a lot of those folks wont get out on time.

That leaves my third thought, a major player (China?) , causing a disruption in our markets to weaken us.
I do believe there are people jumping in now that there is
momentum to this, but I think a larger player started this.

Sort of ironic, the folks that think they are sticking ir to the big guys, are following an even bigger player.

Dunno, I am just a dumb farmer, but something seems off to me.
I agree. Also, is GameStop still a viable business anymore? It seems like the new Blockbuster to me, a market that has come and gone.
I don't think China has anything to do with it. It's some young people with computer/stock market savvy who wanted to stick some of the fat cats who make their living manipulating stocks.

They're referred to a "weaponized autists".
Originally Posted by Stickfight
Originally Posted by RJY66
Hedge funds blowing up is not necessarily a good thing.


Blowing up (((hedge funds))) that are running 140% naked shorts on companies is a good thing. Even AMC which was 60% shorted, is a good thing.

These people are destroyers, not builders. Yesterday one of them was kvetching about how he dedicated his life to learning investing, read The Intelligent Investor when he was just a kid, and all that, only to get liquidated by a bunch of amateurs manipulating the market. How can a Jew like that be an asset to our economy if he can’t even follow the most basic principle laid out in the book he claims is his foundation?


Funny sheit, ain't it?

Originally Posted by Stickfight
[quote=RJY66]Hedge funds blowing up is not necessarily a good thing.



Blow the fuuuckers up!! It is a game they created and manipulated to enrich... themselves. They’ve run businesses in the ground to make a buck. Look at Elliot and cabelas/ bass pro. Ask the folks in Sidney how they feel about it.

No quarter.
I'm not sure what can be done to prevent it in the future. When you get right down to it, all those people were doing is buying stock.

How can (((they))) make it illegal to buy a stock that's being shorted?
The scuttlebutt is that they are going to limit the ability of the peasants to trade. They cannot manipulate a system they don’t understand. It’s too dangerous.

Look for big changes soon.
Originally Posted by Bristoe
I don't think China has anything to do with it. It's some young people with computer/stock market savvy who wanted to stick some of the fat cats who make their living manipulating stocks.

They're referred to a "weaponized autists".
I'd add "incel" to their description...
Originally Posted by Bristoe
I'm not sure what can be done to prevent it in the future. When you get right down to it, all those people were doing is buying stock.

How can (((they))) make it illegal to buy a stock that's being shorted?


That is true, its not illegal, neither is shorting.

What concerns me is that doing a short squeeze is nothing new, and stuff like this has happened before. Its as old as the market. For decades, short interest data has been public. All of the information these alleged little guys acted on is out there for competing professionals to see. But all of a sudden some guys on redditt banded together to "stick it to the jews, the suits, the man, etc" with their stimulus check money and want "revenge" instead of a massive life changing profit?

Sorry but that is a little hard to swallow for me.

There is a tremendous amount of leverage in the system. All of these financial institutions are tied together and the system is not really all that stable. If someone wanted to take it down, this might not be bad way. Who would that someone potentially be? Who would potentially be motivated by something other than making money? Commies from China? Commies from America?
Between this happening now and the continued rise of cryptocurrency and defi, its getting quite interesting out there. I think we might see some real changes to come on the financial landscape.
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Originally Posted by RJY66
Originally Posted by Bristoe
I'm not sure what can be done to prevent it in the future. When you get right down to it, all those people were doing is buying stock.

How can (((they))) make it illegal to buy a stock that's being shorted?


That is true, its not illegal, neither is shorting.

What concerns me is that doing a short squeeze is nothing new, and stuff like this has happened before. Its as old as the market. For decades, short interest data has been public. All of the information these alleged little guys acted on is out there for competing professionals to see. But all of a sudden some guys on redditt banded together to "stick it to the jews, the suits, the man, etc" with their stimulus check money and want "revenge" instead of a massive life changing profit?

Sorry but that is a little hard to swallow for me.

There is a tremendous amount of leverage in the system. All of these financial institutions are tied together and the system is not really all that stable. If someone wanted to take it down, this might not be bad way. Who would that someone potentially be? Who would potentially be motivated by something other than making money? Commies from China? Commies from America?



It's not just some guys - there were like 2.8 million people subscribed to /wsb - a lot participating in small ways. Think of it more like an ant colony, not so much like 5 dudes in mom's basement.
Think I'll sit this one out and let the feathers fly for while.
Originally Posted by RJY66
"revenge" instead of a massive life changing profit?


It might be that some of the participants don’t want the sort of changes those profits would bring. Most lottery winners report their lives are worse after winning than they were before, because having the ability to buy a bunch of meaningless depreciating assets isn’t necessarily fulfilling.

Looks like the Jew tricks are working today. Platforms throttling demand is killing price on the targets.
Originally Posted by Teal
It's not just some guys


Nor it is just little guys. There have been a few whales jump into it.
Originally Posted by Bristoe
How can (((they))) make it illegal to buy a stock that's being shorted?


They control the rule makers and have a genetic inclination to be manipulative and deceitful. They’ve arranged the current state to benefit themselves exclusively, at the expense of all gentiles, and they will change it to try to counter this.
Originally Posted by mirage243
This has been so much fun to watch, can't wait to see which one they pick next.


Seems the Reddit crowd started on Silver this morning..... rumors flying trades are getting held up
Originally Posted by Stickfight
Originally Posted by Bristoe
How can (((they))) make it illegal to buy a stock that's being shorted?


They control the rule makers and have a genetic inclination to be manipulative and deceitful. They’ve arranged the current state to benefit themselves exclusively, at the expense of all gentiles, and they will change it to try to counter this.


So, only the Jews make money or lose money.

You’re in your full glory on this thread.

Laffin.
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
So, only the Jews make money or lose money.


Of course not, but we gentiles accumulate far less value than we would if ethnic Jews were denied the franchise in the countries where we host them.

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You’re in your full glory on this thread.


True, but when am I not?
Originally Posted by irfubar
Originally Posted by mirage243
This has been so much fun to watch, can't wait to see which one they pick next.


Seems the Reddit crowd started on Silver this morning..... rumors flying trades are getting held up





No market maven here. All I can contribute is Fidelity was sporadically bombing on trades and nix-ing certain types of trades this morning and it was impossible to get someone on the line to discuss it.
Originally Posted by local_dirt
Originally Posted by irfubar
Originally Posted by mirage243
This has been so much fun to watch, can't wait to see which one they pick next.


Seems the Reddit crowd started on Silver this morning..... rumors flying trades are getting held up





No market maven here. All I can contribute is Fidelity was sporadically bombing on trades and nix-ing certain types of trades this morning and it was impossible to get someone on the line to discuss it.


Interesting Dirt.... starting to appear the whole damn systems is being manipulated
Just read on article on The Blaze, the RobinHood App and a handful of others are limiting GME and a half dozen other 'volatile' stocks to 'sell' only. Can't buy through them now. Keeping the little guy out of the way of the bigshots.
I knew it!!

The whole Gamestop incident was orchestrated by,,......you guessed it,...white su*PREME*ists!!

https://thepostmillennial.com/journ...tock-surge-with-trumpism-white-supremacy

As it turns out, however, Cillizza's article may approach the more rational end of the spectrum of bad takes regurgitated by the media on the topic. Journalists Ali Breland and Nathaniel Weixel, who work at Mother Jones and The Hill respectively, took to Twitter on Wednesday to speculate how investing in GameStop can be linked to – you guessed it – white supremacy.
https://www.theblaze.com/news/robinhood-shuts-down-trading-of-gamestop
And many still believe in the markets.... lmao
Originally Posted by Stickfight
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
So, only the Jews make money or lose money.


Of course not, but we gentiles accumulate far less value than we would if ethnic Jews were denied the franchise in the countries where we host them.

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You’re in your full glory on this thread.


True, but when am I not?


You white folk granted the franchises in a willing, legal fashion and we thank you for it.

And you’ll always accumulate less than due to the intelligence differential.
As in , Checkmate.


Webull put GME and several other targets on reduce only status just shortly ago.

Interesting cross section of public personalities noticing the (((shenanigans))).

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Originally Posted by Old_Toot
You white folk granted the franchises in a willing, legal fashion


Yes, no argument there. It was all (((legal))). Just like it was more than 100 times before...
So let me get this straight.

Some guy dumped a ton of borrowed Game Stop stock onto the market, intending to artificially deflate the price of said stock. He did this with intent of repurchasing said stock at artificially low value so he could bank a few million.

But a whole bunch of numskulls got together and bought up his Game Stop, and now he has none to buy back to repay his debt. So he has to pay $200 to $400 per share to repurchase what he sold at $20.

And he is losing $Billions. And he is bitching because someone is manipulating the market besides him.

Is that about it?

Apparently there are a lot of guys out there like the one sitting beside me that bought one share of GME when it hit $70. He is laughing his ass off.

So am I, as long as Prudential is not playing such games with my 401K.
Far as I can tell you can buy it on Etrade as I type. I expect the former "little guys" who got in on this can afford another brokerage account.
Originally Posted by Stickfight
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
You white folk granted the franchises in a willing, legal fashion


Yes, no argument there. It was all (((legal))). Just like it was more than 100 times before...


Yet you white folks never learn. You can’t seem to be able to clean up your own mess that you’ve made of your own doing.

Waiting here on you folks to start the disenfranchisement process. You might want to step up the pace a little bit. You’re falling further behind by the day and are steadily losing your adherents.

Or had you even noticed?

The boxcars are waiting and many of you have already willingly boarded. Or have you even noticed?
I just had a GME buy close on Schwab....
Originally Posted by irfubar
Originally Posted by local_dirt
Originally Posted by irfubar
Originally Posted by mirage243
This has been so much fun to watch, can't wait to see which one they pick next.


Seems the Reddit crowd started on Silver this morning..... rumors flying trades are getting held up





No market maven here. All I can contribute is Fidelity was sporadically bombing on trades and nix-ing certain types of trades this morning and it was impossible to get someone on the line to discuss it.


Interesting Dirt.... starting to appear the whole damn systems is being manipulated



You guys be careful out there Fubar and Dirt, glad I'm done with that chit!
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
have you even noticed?


Goyim are noticing some things...

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Originally Posted by Stickfight
I just had a GME buy close on Schwab....


Any Jews among the managers of your Schwab accounts, Stick?

Laffin here.
Originally Posted by Stickfight
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
have you even noticed?


Goyim are noticing some things...

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Ohh yeah!

Noticing and actions are 2 different entities.

Or had you noticed?
The silver war is on.

https://www.kitco.com/charts/livesilver.html
Originally Posted by Bristoe


Ghosts of the Hunt brothers.
Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter
So let me get this straight.

Some guy dumped a ton of borrowed Game Stop stock onto the market, intending to artificially deflate the price of said stock. He did this with intent of repurchasing said stock at artificially low value so he could bank a few million.



In the same way guys have borrowed shares of TSLA for the last several years figuring at many different points that it was overvalued because its market cap is gigantic and they haven't made much in the way of money other than selling govt subsidies. Hoping to buy back at a profit.

Their nuts have been squeezed off. Its been a slow motion version of what happened in a day or two with GME. People on the other side made money because of them.
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Noticing and actions are 2 different entities.


Thank you for Jewsplaining that.

I’d been assuming that noticing was prerequisite for acting, but good to have confirmation from someone who’s people have been through this process more than 100 times.
Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter
Some guy dumped a ton of borrowed Game Stop stock onto the market


That is an element of it, just replace “some guy” with multiple hedge fund managers.

Another is leverage. People were selling call contracts for more GME than they controlled, and when those contracts started finishing In The Money the funds’ hedges (GME they actually held) were quickly consumed. This forced them to either sell open contracts, which handed them a loss, or buy more GME to cover which drove up its price (and caused them a loss).

That leverage is how more shares were being shorted than GameStop had even floated.
Fidelity worked this morning. TDameritrade was clunky and slow.

Sickening. In a fair world, they would be prosecuted for efforts to manipulate free trade in securities.
Originally Posted by Stickfight


Webull put GME and several other targets on reduce only status just shortly ago.

Interesting cross section of public personalities noticing the (((shenanigans))).

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Yep.
Hedge funds do exactly what the nerds have done every day.

Instead of a few fund managers manipulating equities, a group of pissed off millenials did it.

Its nothing new and for hedge funds and wall Street commentators to call for regulations is exactly what is rigged in the game. If they can do it, we should be able to as well.
Originally Posted by Stickfight

Yes, no argument there. It was all (((legal))). Just like it was more than 100 times before...

109?
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
109?


I envy their ability to know that is an historical fact, but still be able to pretend it is us and not them.
Ramzpaul on the question
I never thought about Jews one way or the other for most of my life. Living on the west coast we don’t have the ethnic enclaves like they do on the east coast, at least not to the same extent. Jews are not a dominant force in our daily lives out here so they’re not given much thought. Over the past several years I’ve paid more attention to their games of destruction and my opinion has taken a decided turn and my Jew fatigue is wearing thin. I’m beginning to understand why they’ve been “persecuted” for millennia.....payback is a bitch. They do no favors to the good Jews...

Fuggin dick wads crying because they got beat at their own greedy games.
Reddit this morning: "all of our servers are busy right now"
Originally Posted by Cheesy
Just read on article on The Blaze, the RobinHood App and a handful of others are limiting GME and a half dozen other 'volatile' stocks to 'sell' only. Can't buy through them now. Keeping the little guy out of the way of the bigshots.


Yep. Perfectly ok for some billionaire to buy a million shares and change the momentum of a stock, but heaven forbid a couple hundred thousand buy a few shares each and do THE SAME DAMN THING.
Nice comment that sums up how it happens:

“ Technically that can be done consensually: Imagine a company has 10 shares, and you own them all. 1) You lend me 10 shares 2) I sell 10 shares to you 3) You lend me another 4 shares 4) I sell them to you as well Now the company has 10 shares total, of which you have 24 and I have -14. 140% short. Now if I actually did this I'd be absolutely insane - especially if the stock is concentrated and illiquid. You could decide to stop your stocks from being loanable. Then I would be *forced* to buy back. But as the only holder of the stock, you could decide what price you would sell at and I would *have* to buy at the price you choose. Welcome to the life of a hedge fund now short GameStop. ”
Originally Posted by fburgtx
Originally Posted by Cheesy
Just read on article on The Blaze, the RobinHood App and a handful of others are limiting GME and a half dozen other 'volatile' stocks to 'sell' only. Can't buy through them now. Keeping the little guy out of the way of the bigshots.


Yep. Perfectly ok for some billionaire to buy a million shares and change the momentum of a stock, but heaven forbid a couple hundred thousand buy a few shares each and do THE SAME DAMN THING.


Federal lawsuits already filed in New York and Chicago against RobinHood.
Holy schit, I can’t believe I agree with something AOC said. That’s twice! The first was when she said congress should actually read the damn bills before they sign them.

I’m freaking out.
Robinhood and other trading machines have halted the purchase of certain stocks like NOK, AMC and GME - I've also seen screen shots of people with positions in GME on Robinhood where Robinhood simply closed out their position for them - basically sold the stock without asking the holder.

Gonna get messy.
The silver struggle continues.

https://www.kitco.com/charts/livesilver.html
Kinda funny someone noticed the stock was over borrowed and said let’s cash in on it. The hedge fund guys got caught with their fly open and now are paying for it. Now they want to moan about the game isn’t fair. Boohoos.
GreggH
Originally Posted by Bristoe
The silver struggle continues.

https://www.kitco.com/charts/livesilver.html

So these day traders are trying to ramp up the price of silver by massive numbers going long, while the money powers are battling back by massive selling into the market and shorting?
Originally Posted by GreggH
Kinda funny someone noticed the stock was over borrowed and said let’s cash in on it. The hedge fund guys got caught with their fly open and now are paying for it. Now they want to moan about the game isn’t fair. Boohoos.
GreggH

Watch the Ramzpaul video I posted above.
Originally Posted by irfubar
Originally Posted by local_dirt
Originally Posted by irfubar
Originally Posted by mirage243
This has been so much fun to watch, can't wait to see which one they pick next.


Seems the Reddit crowd started on Silver this morning..... rumors flying trades are getting held up





No market maven here. All I can contribute is Fidelity was sporadically bombing on trades and nix-ing certain types of trades this morning and it was impossible to get someone on the line to discuss it.


Interesting Dirt.... starting to appear the whole damn systems is being manipulated





irfubar, You're reading my mind!!!

I was finally able to confirm my trades and where the money was going about an hour ago. I turned the volume down on my phone and just let it go until I got Ryan on the other end. Waited an hour and 40 minutes for a live body. No kidding, When we were done with our conversation, I thanked him for his help.

It's my belief, and you can call me the conspiracy theorist. that the market is being manipulated.

Went all cash and may distribute to other mediums later, If I decide that's what I want to do. If I never make another penny in the "market", (If that's what you want to call it anymore) I'm good with that..
Robin Hood is now selling GME stocks without permission.
Dave Portnoy appears a bit pizzed.

https://twitter.com/stoolpresidente/status/1354848771184750598
Originally Posted by Teal
Robinhood and other trading machines have halted the purchase of certain stocks like NOK, AMC and GME - I've also seen screen shots of people with positions in GME on Robinhood where Robinhood simply closed out their position for them - basically sold the stock without asking the holder.

Gonna get messy.


Originally Posted by JoeBob
Robin Hood is now selling GME stocks without permission.
Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Blatant, open, criminality!
I just heard that they're going to conduct investigations into the people who have been buying Gamestop stock.

A criminal investigation on people for buying a stock!
Originally Posted by Bristoe
I just heard that they're going to conduct investigations into the people who have been buying Gamestock stock.

A criminal investigation on people for buying a stock!

Yep. If a little guy makes a long shot, but winning, bet and this causes the billionaires to have to sell one of their mansions because your win meant their loss, then you must pay the consequences.
Originally Posted by 16bore
Holy schit, I can’t believe I agree with something AOC said. That’s twice! The first was when she said congress should actually read the damn bills before they sign them.

I’m freaking out.


Blind squirrel finds a nut.
When it falls off the tree and hits her in the head.
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by Bristoe
I just heard that they're going to conduct investigations into the people who have been buying Gamestock stock.

A criminal investigation on people for buying a stock!

Yep. If a little guy makes a long shot, but winning, bet and this causes the billionaires to have to sell one of their mansions because your win meant their loss, then you must pay the consequences.

I reliable friend knows someone who works at Robinhood, who said that a company called Sequoia Capital and the White House told them to shut down new purchases of Gamestock and he assumes that other brokerage houses got a similar directive. I wouldn't doubt it because Robinhood has always been a stick it to the man kind of company. Take it for what it's worth, since it's sourced from a friend of a friend.
Interestingly Leon Cooperman (one of those vocal about the short squeeze) was a strong critic of the Slo-jo ticket. He spoke in opposition several times last year...

It makes you wonder if this is retribution..
Originally Posted by Stickfight
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Noticing and actions are 2 different entities.


Thank you for Jewsplaining that.

I’d been assuming that noticing was prerequisite for acting, but good to have confirmation from someone who’s people have been through this process more than 100 times.


And still here and prospering.

You white folks as a group, not so much as you’ll soon see for voting for white Joe. He’s gonna bring y’all back to being the true chosen ones again .

Wait on it.
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by Bristoe
I just heard that they're going to conduct investigations into the people who have been buying Gamestock stock.

A criminal investigation on people for buying a stock!

Yep. If a little guy makes a long shot, but winning, bet and this causes the billionaires to have to sell one of their mansions because your win meant their loss, then you must pay the consequences.



Get in the boxcars, Hawk.
Originally Posted by Teal
Originally Posted by Teal
Robinhood and other trading machines have halted the purchase of certain stocks like NOK, AMC and GME - I've also seen screen shots of people with positions in GME on Robinhood where Robinhood simply closed out their position for them - basically sold the stock without asking the holder.

Gonna get messy.


Originally Posted by JoeBob
Robin Hood is now selling GME stocks without permission.



Reportedly on the day low not the high.

Also at least some of those were margin calls and I suspect the EUA allows it.

Stopping buys to crash the stock and allow the shorts some relief to cover their contracts is bullshcitt.
Maybe this will make folks realize the fight is top to bottom and not left to right.
Originally Posted by JohnBurns
Originally Posted by Teal
[quote=Teal]Robinhood and other trading machines have halted the purchase of certain stocks like NOK, AMC and GME - I've also seen screen shots of people with positions in GME on Robinhood where Robinhood simply closed out their position for them - basically sold the stock without asking the holder.

Gonna get messy.


Originally Posted by JoeBob
Robin Hood is now selling GME stocks without permission.



Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by Bristoe
I just heard that they're going to conduct investigations into the people who have been buying Gamestock stock.

A criminal investigation on people for buying a stock!

Yep. If a little guy makes a long shot, but winning, bet and this causes the billionaires to have to sell one of their mansions because your win meant their loss, then you must pay the consequences.



Interesting about the investigation, but that plays into what Warren wants.
Cooperman ripped Warren a new one last year calling her economic plans idiocy.

Also in the WSJ, leading up to yesterday the fund manager has been harassed the way mayors were harassed over the summer with doxxing and threats of violence.

I think this may be another false flag.
Originally Posted by Bristoe
I just heard that they're going to conduct investigations into the people who have been buying Gamestop stock.

A criminal investigation on people for buying a stock!



By tomorrow they'll be calling retail investors who participate in short squeezes insurrectionists.



The quants in Boston can't have these dog pecker gnats fouling up their algorithm.


F'em

It's just more scare tactics.
Originally Posted by kingston
By tomorrow they'll be calling retail investors who participate in short squeezes insurrectionists.


You were off by only a little.

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More Order 66 action.
I can't tell you how pleased I am that the younger generation has joined the battle. They understand social media and how to make it work for them than us old fudds ever will.
It's their country and future and this gives me hope for them.
Originally Posted by irfubar
I can't tell you how pleased I am that the younger generation has joined the battle. They understand social media and how to make it work for them than us old fudds ever will.
It's their country and future and this gives me hope for them.


I'm happy to see it too. I hope they don't get disappeared. The people they're messing with are very wealthy and powerful.
Originally Posted by irfubar
I can't tell you how pleased I am that the younger generation has joined the battle. They understand social media and how to make it work for them than us old fudds ever will.
It's their country and future and this gives me hope for them.


A beacon of light!
The Democrats risk loosing the middle. The whole thing. The middle is where the bulk of the electorate is. People aren't stupid. Democrat elites are putting it all on the line, they're just too arrogant to realize it. They had to force (steal) a narrow victory at the polls. They've got two years. With their propensity to fly too close to the sun, they''re all but guaranteed to destroy themselves. We the people must stick together. Don't let them pit us against each. It's their first and most constant tactic.
I'm very curious as to how Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies are going to play into this. They have been gaining traction already anyway, and now with obvious manipulation like this happening it'll likely drive more people over to alternatives.
See here for status updates: http://isthesqueezesquoze.com
Great write up.

Thanks.


We are living in very interesting times.

Reality eclipses fiction.
They are spinning the living schit out of this. It’s white supremacy, it’s hate, it’s low life’s, it’s Trump.

It’s phuqqin funny.

I don’t get the autistic reference. Isn’t that like calling these folks retards? I thought we weren’t supposed to do that?
What happened this week was, and is frightening.

It is a shocking wake up call.

Hedge funds and those that short stocks are heavily regulated. Most importantly, shorting provides some balance to the market and expectations are known, and prices built in. It is expected, as part of the rules of engagement. Economists for decades now have said it is a healthy check-and-balance to a free market.

What happened on Reddit was a new phenomenon of massive market manipulation via social media. The market is NOT prepared for this kind of coordinated effort to manipulate stocks, nor are their rules to address it, nor are the massive price swings pre-baked into the market. This wasn't a few happy basement-dwelling millennials buying some lame Gamestop stocks, it was a grassroots movement to sabotage the ebb and flow of the base of our economy.

While perhaps nothing illegal actually happened, this is pretty unprecedented, and I am not in the "happy camp" that this chit show is happening.

But, you all keep high fiving. Reddit and Robinhood are liberal whorehouses. And that's where this all started.

That should tell you something.
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Originally Posted by duck911
What happened this week was, and is frightening.

It is a shocking wake up call.

Hedge funds and those that short stocks are heavily regulated. Most importantly, shorting provides some balance to the market and expectations are known, and prices built in. It is expected, as part of the rules of engagement. Economists for decades now have said it is a healthy check-and-balance to a free market.

What happened on Reddit was a new phenomenon of massive market manipulation via social media. The market is NOT prepared for this kind of coordinated effort to manipulate stocks, nor are their rules to address it, nor are the massive price swings pre-baked into the market. This wasn't a few happy basement-dwelling millennials buying some lame Gamestop stocks, it was a grassroots movement to sabotage the ebb and flow of the base of our economy.

While perhaps nothing illegal actually happened, this is pretty unprecedented, and I am not in the "happy camp" that this chit show is happening.

But, you all keep high fiving. Reddit and Robinhood are liberal whorehouses. And that's where this all started.

That should tell you something.


lmao I made an extra 11 k today.

about as accurate as your analysis of the George Floyd shooting. Whats your thoughts of the new Sect of the Treasury involvement (deep state)in this and her speaking fees?

And congress and family members can still legally use insider information to game the system.
Originally Posted by ribka
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Originally Posted by duck911
What happened this week was, and is frightening.

It is a shocking wake up call.

Hedge funds and those that short stocks are heavily regulated. Most importantly, shorting provides some balance to the market and expectations are known, and prices built in. It is expected, as part of the rules of engagement. Economists for decades now have said it is a healthy check-and-balance to a free market.

What happened on Reddit was a new phenomenon of massive market manipulation via social media. The market is NOT prepared for this kind of coordinated effort to manipulate stocks, nor are their rules to address it, nor are the massive price swings pre-baked into the market. This wasn't a few happy basement-dwelling millennials buying some lame Gamestop stocks, it was a grassroots movement to sabotage the ebb and flow of the base of our economy.

While perhaps nothing illegal actually happened, this is pretty unprecedented, and I am not in the "happy camp" that this chit show is happening.

But, you all keep high fiving. Reddit and Robinhood are liberal whorehouses. And that's where this all started.

That should tell you something.


lmao I made an extra 11 k today.



Congrats? No one cares.

You ignored, or missed, the entire premise of my post.

But, you aren't known here for really catching on, so.............



Originally Posted by Stickfight
Originally Posted by kingston
By tomorrow they'll be calling retail investors who participate in short squeezes insurrectionists.


You were off by only a little.

[Linked Image from i.ibb.co]

More Order 66 action.




Originally Posted by irfubar
I can't tell you how pleased I am that the younger generation has joined the battle. They understand social media and how to make it work for them than us old fudds ever will.
It's their country and future and this gives me hope for them.





Me too.
Originally Posted by duck911
this is pretty unprecedented


No it isn't.

Do you think these hedge funds aren't manipulating the market? They aren't colluding with one another? With their friends in the media? When Tesla was one of the most shorted companies, do you think the thousands of articles that Bloomberg and CNBC and Motley and the like aimed at retail investors about how their business model was untenable were just independent organic outpourings of genuine concern for everyone's finances? Gamestop got this same treatment.

Robinhood receives a good portion of their revenue from Citadel by selling trading data. Where people are setting limits, order queues, etc etc. so Citadel can feed that information into their HFT. This is a business where getting information a few fractions of a second faster than your opponent makes a difference and the people involved are operating with wildly different sets of information and power positions.

It was not out of concern for their users that some (((brokerages))) suspended buys, it was so the affected funds would keep paying them for data.

It was not out of concern for their users that Google deleted thousands of 1 star reviews for the Robinhood app, it because Google is (((connected))) to those same funds.

It was not out of concern for their readers that Jewsweek published this, it was to keep more normans from buying GME.

We can either have an economy that is incentivized to produce genuine value that improves our lives or we can have one that is manipulated to serve the financial interests of a narrow slice of ~2.5% of the population. There are no new Remington 700s on shelves not because producing them is not a viable business model, but because people like the "victims" in this short squeeze used the above network of professional manipulators to drain all of its financial value into their bank account and then were allowed to walk away with everyone else having to deal with Remington's corpse. You are arguing for more of that, I'm arguing for less.

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=%22Short-...ame+for+years%2C%22&t=osx&ia=web
Originally Posted by Stickfight
Originally Posted by duck911
this is pretty unprecedented


No it isn't.

Do you think these hedge funds aren't manipulating the market? They aren't colluding with one another? With their friends in the media? When Tesla was one of the most shorted companies, do you think the thousands of articles that Bloomberg and CNBC and Motley and the like aimed at retail investors about how their business model was untenable were just independent organic outpourings of genuine concern for everyone's finances? Gamestop got this same treatment.

Robinhood receives a good portion of their revenue from Citadel by selling trading data. Where people are setting limits, order queues, etc etc. so Citadel can feed that information into their HFT. This is a business where getting information a few fractions of a second faster than your opponent makes a difference and the people involved are operating with wildly different sets of information and power positions.

It was not out of concern for their users that some (((brokerages))) suspended buys, it was so the affected funds would keep paying them for data.

It was not out of concern for their users that Google deleted thousands of 1 star reviews for the Robinhood app, it because Google is (((connected))) to those same funds.

It was not out of concern for their readers that Jewsweek published this, it was to keep more normans from buying GME.

We can either have an economy that is incentivized to produce genuine value that improves our lives or we can have one that is manipulated to serve the financial interests of a narrow slice of ~2.5% of the population. There are no new Remington 700s on shelves not because producing them is not a viable business model, but because people like the "victims" in this short squeeze used the above network of professional manipulators to drain all of its financial value into their bank account and then were allowed to walk away with everyone else having to deal with Remington's corpse. You are arguing for more of that, I'm arguing for less.

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=%22Short-...ame+for+years%2C%22&t=osx&ia=web

Well said.
Hedge funds manipulate stocks all the time and their actions cost real people their jobs, their savings, their retirement funds. They got the tables turned on them.
Originally Posted by JoeBob
Hedge funds manipulate stocks all the time and their actions cost real people their jobs, their savings, their retirement funds. They got the tables turned on them.

This. Well said.
Originally Posted by JoeBob
Hedge funds manipulate stocks all the time and their actions cost real people their jobs, their savings, their retirement funds. They got the tables turned on them.


One event is far from a trend.

It’ll be interesting to see if it continues and gains traction. That would be a very nice to see come to fruition.
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by Stickfight
Originally Posted by duck911
this is pretty unprecedented

No it isn't.
Do you think these hedge funds aren't manipulating the market? They aren't colluding with one another? With their friends in the media? When Tesla was one of the most shorted companies, do you think the thousands of articles that Bloomberg and CNBC and Motley and the like aimed at retail investors about how their business model was untenable were just independent organic outpourings of genuine concern for everyone's finances? Gamestop got this same treatment.

Robinhood receives a good portion of their revenue from Citadel by selling trading data. Where people are setting limits, order queues, etc etc. so Citadel can feed that information into their HFT. This is a business where getting information a few fractions of a second faster than your opponent makes a difference and the people involved are operating with wildly different sets of information and power positions.

It was not out of concern for their users that some (((brokerages))) suspended buys, it was so the affected funds would keep paying them for data.

It was not out of concern for their users that Google deleted thousands of 1 star reviews for the Robinhood app, it because Google is (((connected))) to those same funds.

It was not out of concern for their readers that Jewsweek published this, it was to keep more normans from buying GME.

We can either have an economy that is incentivized to produce genuine value that improves our lives or we can have one that is manipulated to serve the financial interests of a narrow slice of ~2.5% of the population. There are no new Remington 700s on shelves not because producing them is not a viable business model, but because people like the "victims" in this short squeeze used the above network of professional manipulators to drain all of its financial value into their bank account and then were allowed to walk away with everyone else having to deal with Remington's corpse. You are arguing for more of that, I'm arguing for less.

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=%22Short-...ame+for+years%2C%22&t=osx&ia=web

Well said.

Very well said, Stickfight knows what the hell is going on and isn't afraid to say it. 👍
Originally Posted by Ghostinthemachine

Very well said, Stickfight knows what the hell is going on and isn't afraid to say it. 👍

There is a growing band of us who know what the hell is going on. The Sword of Damocles, however, increasingly hangs over any who dare say it .
Originally Posted by duck911
What happened this week was, and is frightening.

It is a shocking wake up call.

Hedge funds and those that short stocks are heavily regulated. Most importantly, shorting provides some balance to the market and expectations are known, and prices built in. It is expected, as part of the rules of engagement. Economists for decades now have said it is a healthy check-and-balance to a free market.

What happened on Reddit was a new phenomenon of massive market manipulation via social media. The market is NOT prepared for this kind of coordinated effort to manipulate stocks, nor are their rules to address it, nor are the massive price swings pre-baked into the market. This wasn't a few happy basement-dwelling millennials buying some lame Gamestop stocks, it was a grassroots movement to sabotage the ebb and flow of the base of our economy.

While perhaps nothing illegal actually happened, this is pretty unprecedented, and I am not in the "happy camp" that this chit show is happening.

But, you all keep high fiving. Reddit and Robinhood are liberal whorehouses. And that's where this all started.

That should tell you something.








Tell this to the fine folks of Sidney Nebraska, hedge funds wiped out prosperity in that town.
Originally Posted by Stickfight
Originally Posted by kingston
By tomorrow they'll be calling retail investors who participate in short squeezes insurrectionists.


You were off by only a little.

[Linked Image from i.ibb.co]

More Order 66 action.

Bingo.
The narrative progresses.
Originally Posted by 16bore
Maybe this will make folks realize the fight is top to bottom and not left to right.


Nailed it
Originally Posted by duck911
What happened this week was, and is frightening.

It is a shocking wake up call.


Holy Christmas Karen.
Originally Posted by Raeford
Originally Posted by 16bore
Maybe this will make folks realize the fight is top to bottom and not left to right.


Nailed it


Boom!
As per Stu Varney the fight to overturn several elections in the Senate was financed by rich Long Island stock brokers and Hollywood moguls.
Originally Posted by Raeford
Originally Posted by 16bore
Maybe this will make folks realize the fight is top to bottom and not left to right.


Nailed it


As per Stu Varney the fight to overturn several elections in the Senate was financed by rich Long Island stock brokers and Hollywood moguls. This would make sense. The super wealthy are buying influence and politicians by the dozens.

kwg
Originally Posted by kingston
Originally Posted by Raeford
Originally Posted by 16bore
Maybe this will make folks realize the fight is top to bottom and not left to right.


Nailed it


Boom!


Somebody please educate Duck911 on how this works...... maybe the mask cut oxygen to his brain?
Originally Posted by irfubar
Originally Posted by duck911
What happened this week was, and is frightening.

It is a shocking wake up call.

Hedge funds and those that short stocks are heavily regulated. Most importantly, shorting provides some balance to the market and expectations are known, and prices built in. It is expected, as part of the rules of engagement. Economists for decades now have said it is a healthy check-and-balance to a free market.

What happened on Reddit was a new phenomenon of massive market manipulation via social media. The market is NOT prepared for this kind of coordinated effort to manipulate stocks, nor are their rules to address it, nor are the massive price swings pre-baked into the market. This wasn't a few happy basement-dwelling millennials buying some lame Gamestop stocks, it was a grassroots movement to sabotage the ebb and flow of the base of our economy.

While perhaps nothing illegal actually happened, this is pretty unprecedented, and I am not in the "happy camp" that this chit show is happening.

But, you all keep high fiving. Reddit and Robinhood are liberal whorehouses. And that's where this all started.

That should tell you something.








Tell this to the fine folks of Sidney Nebraska, hedge funds wiped out prosperity in that town.


Same folks, Elliot group, now sit on the board of my former employer. They do one thing - increase share holder value at any cost. Buy in, drive the sale of a good company and then bail with the profits.

We are pawns in a game.
https://apple.news/Ayzz-PCRyTUSJ5lIzrpT0Ow
Originally Posted by kingston

You have to pay to read that.
I didn't.
Here's a quote from another article.

"Global equity markets have also suffered as funds were forced to sell some of their best-performing stocks, including Apple Inc, to cover billions of dollars of losses."

These shïtbags are all tied together.

It's them against us.
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by kingston

You have to pay to read that.


◆ WSJ NEWS EXCLUSIVE
Keith Gill Drove the GameStop Reddit Mania. He Talked to the Journal.
Trader known as DeepF—ingValue on the WallStreetBets forum helped turn the investing world upside down. “I didn’t expect this.”
BOSTON—The investor who helped direct the world’s attention to GameStop, leading a horde of online followers in a bizarre market rally that made and lost fortunes from one day to the next, says he’s just a normal guy.
“I didn’t expect this,” said Keith Gill, 34 years old, known as “DeepF—ingValue” by fans on Reddit’s WallStreetBets forum and “Dada” by his 2-year-old daughter. He said he didn’t set out to draw the attention of Congress, the Federal Reserve, hedge funds, the media, trading platforms and hundreds of thousands of investors.
“This story is so much bigger than me,” Mr. Gill told The Wall Street Journal in his first interview since the unboxing this week of a volatile new stock market game. “I support these retail investors, their ability to make a statement.”
To many of them, Mr. Gill—who until recently worked in marketing for Massachusetts Mutual Life Insurance Co.—is the force behind the triple-digit gains in shares of the videogame retailer GameStop, up more than 900% this year through Thursday. On Wednesday, the stock jumped 135% to $347.51, a record, before plunging to $194 a share Thursday as online brokerages clamped down. At the start of the year, GameStop shares went for around $18.
Many online investors say his advocacy helped turn them into a force powerful enough to cause big losses for established hedge funds and, for the moment, turn the investing world upside down.
Mr. Gill posted a screenshot of his brokerage account Wednesday, showing a roughly $20 million daily gain on GameStop shares and options. “Your steady hand convinced many of us to not only buy, but hold. Your example has literally changed the lives of thousands of ordinary normal people. Seriously thank you. You deserve every penny,” replied one Reddit user, reality_czech.
The next day, Mr. Gill posted another screenshot—showing about a $15 million loss. After Thursday’s market close, his E*Trade brokerage account, viewed by the Journal, held around $33 million, including GameStop stock, options and millions in cash.
“He always liked money,” said Elaine Gill, his mother. As a child, she said, “he would get money from those scratch tickets that people didn’t know they’d won. People would throw them on the ground…A lot of times there was still money on them.”
Mr. Gill’s online persona—he goes by “Roaring Kitty” on YouTube—has drawn tens of thousands of fans and copycats who share screenshots of their own brokerage accounts. As the GameStop frenzy peaked this week, hundreds of thousands of new investors downloaded applications like Robinhood to join the action, according to Apptopia Inc.
Mr. Gill said he wasn’t a rabble-rouser out to take on the establishment, just someone who believes investors can find value in unloved stocks. He never expected to have a legion of fans debating his identity online, or millions of dollars in his trading account, he said. He was just a dad with an online hobby and a plastic kiddie slide on the front lawn of a Boston suburb.
Mr. Gill began investing in GameStop around June 2019, he said, when it was hovering around $5 a share. Earlier that year, the game retailer was hunting for its fifth chief executive in a little over 12 months. Mr. Gill kept buying. Although he never played much besides Super Mario or Donkey Kong, he saw potential for the struggling retailer to reinvigorate itself by attracting new customers with the latest videogame consoles.
“People were doing a quick take, saying GameStop was the next Blockbuster,” he said, a chain caught in a retail decline. “It appeared many folks just weren’t digging in deeper. It was a gross misclassification of the opportunity.”
Mr. Gill, tall with shoulder-length hair, opened a YouTube channel last summer, and he worked in the basement of the home he rents in Wilmington, Mass., to avoid disturbing his daughter after bedtime, he said. On his channel, he touted GameStop and Belgian beers. His favorite is Delirium Tremens.
On a recent YouTube live-stream, he wore a red headband and aviator sunglasses while fielding questions on stocks. He poured himself Prosecco then switched to beer as he celebrated big gains and gave shout-outs to legions of viewers and traders in a seven-hour-plus extravaganza. The stream has tallied more than 200,000 views.
Mr. Gill’s obscene username on Reddit’s WallStreetBets forum is supposed to reflect a belief in value investing—buying shares of companies that are inexpensive relative to the underlying business.
Among his many Reddit fans, Mr. Gill “will go down as the greatest legend in the history of WallStreetBets,” said Jon Hagedorn, a 34-year-old training supervisor based in Ronkonkoma, N.Y. “He’s the original OG.”
The stock’s wild ride, seemingly divorced from standard measures of corporate value, has spurred complaints that investors banding together to provoke this kind of frenzy amounts to market manipulation.
The Securities and Exchange Commission said Friday it would “act to protect retail investors when the facts demonstrate abusive or manipulative trading activity.” Mr. Gill said he hasn’t heard from the SEC.
Fast times
“The first thing that I had asked him when this craziness started was: is this illegal or anything dishonest? He said, ‘No mom, it’s not,’” recalled Ms. Gill, who lives in Brockton, Mass., where she and Steve Gill raised their son.
In high school, Mr. Gill was a distance runner, and he earned national honors on the team at nearby Stonehill College, where he graduated in 2009 with an accounting major. He ran a four-minute mile until sidelined by an Achilles injury.
Mr. Gill moved to New Hampshire for a few years and found a mentor, an investor and software developer his aunt introduced him to. He holds a designation as a Chartered Financial Analyst and said he was drawn by the complexity and challenge of stock picking, which became an outlet for the energy he once put into running. He started working at MassMutual in 2019.
In the summer of 2019, he started building his position in GameStop and would post screenshots of his E*Trade account’s options positions on WallStreetBets forum. “Holy s— bro, what made you drop 53K on GameStop?” one trader posted about one of Mr. Gill’s screenshots in September 2019.
In the months that followed, he posted regularly, putting up a “GME YOLO update,” a reference to GameStop’s ticker and the mantra “you only live once.” He showed off gains in the five- and six-digits, and times when his investments plunged.
Mr. Gill stuck with GameStop, and his wagers became day-trader lore.
To fans, he tapped into the desire by millions of amateur investors around the U.S. to try their hand at stock trading. Trading fees have fallen to zero, and apps allow investors to buy and sell on their phones. The easy market access is augmented by an online community swelled with eager helpers.
Many first-time investors stuck at home in the pandemic said they found solace in chatting with others online about trading stocks or options, as well as hearing from those making profitable bets.
The discourse isn’t always positive. An off-Reddit chat room associated with WallStreetBets is filled with obscenity, racism and antigay screeds. Many on the platforms lash out against Wall Street power players, and some express a desire to see the financial pros reel from losses.
“I’m not out for anybody,” Mr. Gill said. “Roaring Kitty was an educational channel where I was showcasing my investment philosophy.”
Bear bust
Many on Wall Street disagreed with Mr. Gill’s bullish view on GameStop and have taken a big hit as a result. Hedge funds and other investment professionals piled into wagers that the shares would tumble.
To bet against a stock, hedge funds borrow shares and sell them, hoping to buy them back later at a lower price and return them. That allows them to pocket the difference between the prices. But when a shorted stock stages such a dramatic rally, it turns painful, often forcing them to exit from the positions by purchasing shares at a loss. In turn, that can inspire sharp gains in stocks, known as a “short squeeze.”
The bearish positioning of hedge funds was part of what drew many small GameStop investors, anticipating a short squeeze. Mr. Gill said his investing strategy didn’t entirely depend on a short squeeze, but he knew others were potentially betting on it.
So far, the professionals have been wrong, giving a win to Mr. Gill and other individual investors who bet big on GameStop. Hedge funds like Melvin Capital Management and Maplelane Capital were the ones burned, as well as jeered by boastful Reddit investors.
Many others have piled into GameStop, trying to ride the rally “to the moon,” as many Reddit investors say. Individual investors have also piled into shares of companies like AMC Entertainment Holdings Inc. in the hopes of catching similar momentum and making a quick buck.
GameStop has garnered hundreds of thousands of posts over the past month across Reddit, Twitter and Facebook, according to data this week from Meltwater, a global media intelligence company. As the stock has vaulted higher, its shares have traded in a frenzy, making it one of the most popular bets in the U.S. market in recent days, according to Dow Jones Market Data.
Seasoned traders are starting to take into account the behavior of influential investors like Mr. Gill and others.
Mark Sebastian, founder of Chicago-based Options Pit and an options trader for around 20 years, has developed a screener analyzing reams of stocks to spot those with heavy activity from individual investors. He buys or sells options based on which stocks are gaining momentum, trying to ride the wave higher or lower. Recently, this included AMC, though he said he wasn’t a fan.
“We’re trying to get on these names before they completely take off,” Mr. Sebastian said, calling one recent trade “free money.”
Mr. Gill said his life has changed overnight and hasn’t set his future plans. He would like to continue the “Roaring Kitty” YouTube channel, maybe buy a house. “I thought this trade would be successful,” he said, “but I never expected what happened over the past week.”
He has one dream in mind. “I always wanted to build an indoor track facility or a field house in Brockton,” he said of his hometown. “And now, it looks like I actually could do that.”
Elisa Cho, Jim Oberman and Caitlin McCabe contributed to this article.
By the way the WSJ Keith Gill article (posted above) was headlined an hour ago. It's now buried below 20 other "articles" at the bottom of the page.

It's a great piece.
Originally Posted by kingston
An off-Reddit chat room associated with WallStreetBets is filled with obscenity, racism and antigay screeds. Many on the platforms lash out against Wall Street power players, and some express a desire to see the financial pros reel from losses.



https://boards.4channel.org/biz/
deplorables, racists, xenophobs, fascists, gay bashers, anons, insurrectionists, white people, uncle toms...

#gaslighting



Those crying for regulation are either idiots or corrupt. What we've witnessed this week is the perfect example of the marketplace self-correcting.
So how exactly does it work? isn't it all just numbers on a screen until someone comes to collect whats owed? Short sellers have to pay up at the end of closing time or are they buying it at 200 with a loss to get out of the short instead of letting it get higher and taking an even bigger loss? I am assuming they just cant wait to let it come back down?

In other words, when are they forced to pay up?
Originally Posted by killerv
So how exactly does it work? isn't it all just numbers on a screen until someone comes to collect whats owed? Short sellers have to pay up at the end of closing time or are they buying it at 200 with a loss to get out of the short instead of letting it get higher and taking an even bigger loss? I am assuming they just cant wait to let it come back down?

In other words, when are they forced to pay up?


Probably take it as a loss on taxes, or declare bankruptcy, make someone else eat it.

The hedge funds are probably calling the private equity groups, to ask how it’s done...

“Well....FIRST give everyone a BIG “performance bonus”, THEN declare bankruptcy.....”
https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/05/shortsaleclosed.asp

So, when the sellers of the shorts ask for it.
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye

So, when the sellers of the shorts ask for it.


Should be soon. I’m guessing the “real” owners of those shares would like to sell them, now. What happens when they “don’t exist”, because they have been loaned out to someone else???
Originally Posted by fburgtx
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye

So, when the sellers of the shorts ask for it.


Should be soon. I’m guessing the “real” owners of those shares would like to sell them, now. What happens when they “don’t exist”, because they have been loaned out to someone else???

The holder of the short is then required to buy it at market price so as to return it to whoever loaned it to them. The problem is that they apparently created shorts for more shares than actually exist.
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by fburgtx
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye

So, when the sellers of the shorts ask for it.


Should be soon. I’m guessing the “real” owners of those shares would like to sell them, now. What happens when they “don’t exist”, because they have been loaned out to someone else???

The holder of the short is then required to buy it at market price so as to return it to whoever loaned it to them. The problem is that they apparently created shorts for more shares than actually exist.


Exactly.

Gonna be a schidtshow..
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by fburgtx
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye

So, when the sellers of the shorts ask for it.


Should be soon. I’m guessing the “real” owners of those shares would like to sell them, now. What happens when they “don’t exist”, because they have been loaned out to someone else???

The holder of the short is then required to buy it at market price so as to return it to whoever loaned it to them. The problem is that they apparently created shorts for more shares than actually exist.


They do the same thing when they short gold. In fact, they don't even "borrow" the gold. It all exists on paper and no physical gold backs the paper.

Precious metals would be through the roof if they weren't being manipulated.

Right now the artificial ceiling is around $2000 an ounce for gold. Whenever it reaches that price, expect to see it spike downward sharply in a matter of minutes.
Originally Posted by Bristoe

They do the same thing when they short gold. In fact, they don't even "borrow" the gold. It all exists on paper and no physical gold backs the paper.

Precious metals would be through the roof if they weren't being manipulated.

Right now the artificial ceiling is around $2000 an ounce for gold. Whenever it reaches that price, expect to see it spike downward sharply in a matter of minutes.

Yep.
Originally Posted by 16bore
They are spinning the living schit out of this. It’s white supremacy, it’s hate, it’s low life’s, it’s Trump.

It’s phuqqin funny.

I don’t get the autistic reference. Isn’t that like calling these folks retards? I thought we weren’t supposed to do that?


Autism is considered a plus in some circle of the web.

If you want a bit of a mind bender watch the movie "The Accountant" .

It's a good shootem up about an forensic accountant who is on the scale and good with numbers but not so good with people.

It even has a short scene about short selling complete with a hedge fund dude taking a beating.

Funnies thing is former Sec Treasury Steve Mnuchin was a producer.
From another article:

"One such user, a Redditor who goes by the name Space-Peanut, has a very personal reason for tossing their match onto the pyre.

Read below (emphasis ours):

This is for you, Dad.

I remember when the housing collapse sent a torpedo through my family. My father's concrete company collapsed almost overnight. My father lost his home. My uncle lost his home. I remember my brother helping my father count pocket change on our kitchen table. That was all the money he had left in the world. While this was happening in my home, I saw hedge funders literally drinking champagne as they looked down on the Occupy Wall Street protestors. I will never forget that.

My Father never recovered from that blow. He fell deeper and deeper into alcoholism and exists now as a shell of his former self, waiting for death.

This is all the money I have and I'd rather lose it all than give them what they need to destroy me. Taking money from me won't hurt me, because i don't value it at all. I'll burn it all down just to spite them.

Zero Hedge
Your conservative hero, Fauxcohantas, agrees with you Cuck

https://www.warren.senate.gov/imo/m...20Warren%20to%20Acting%20Chair%20Lee.pdf





Originally Posted by duck911
Originally Posted by ribka
\
Originally Posted by duck911
What happened this week was, and is frightening.

It is a shocking wake up call.

Hedge funds and those that short stocks are heavily regulated. Most importantly, shorting provides some balance to the market and expectations are known, and prices built in. It is expected, as part of the rules of engagement. Economists for decades now have said it is a healthy check-and-balance to a free market.

What happened on Reddit was a new phenomenon of massive market manipulation via social media. The market is NOT prepared for this kind of coordinated effort to manipulate stocks, nor are their rules to address it, nor are the massive price swings pre-baked into the market. This wasn't a few happy basement-dwelling millennials buying some lame Gamestop stocks, it was a grassroots movement to sabotage the ebb and flow of the base of our economy.

While perhaps nothing illegal actually happened, this is pretty unprecedented, and I am not in the "happy camp" that this chit show is happening.

But, you all keep high fiving. Reddit and Robinhood are liberal whorehouses. And that's where this all started.

That should tell you something.


lmao I made an extra 11 k today.



Congrats? No one cares.

You ignored, or missed, the entire premise of my post.

But, you aren't known here for really catching on, so.............



Originally Posted by ribka
Your conservative hero, Fauxcohantas, agrees with you Cuck

https://www.warren.senate.gov/imo/m...20Warren%20to%20Acting%20Chair%20Lee.pdf





Originally Posted by duck911
Originally Posted by ribka
\
Originally Posted by duck911
What happened this week was, and is frightening.

It is a shocking wake up call.

Hedge funds and those that short stocks are heavily regulated. Most importantly, shorting provides some balance to the market and expectations are known, and prices built in. It is expected, as part of the rules of engagement. Economists for decades now have said it is a healthy check-and-balance to a free market.

What happened on Reddit was a new phenomenon of massive market manipulation via social media. The market is NOT prepared for this kind of coordinated effort to manipulate stocks, nor are their rules to address it, nor are the massive price swings pre-baked into the market. This wasn't a few happy basement-dwelling millennials buying some lame Gamestop stocks, it was a grassroots movement to sabotage the ebb and flow of the base of our economy.

While perhaps nothing illegal actually happened, this is pretty unprecedented, and I am not in the "happy camp" that this chit show is happening.

But, you all keep high fiving. Reddit and Robinhood are liberal whorehouses. And that's where this all started.

That should tell you something.


lmao I made an extra 11 k today.



Congrats? No one cares.

You ignored, or missed, the entire premise of my post.

But, you aren't known here for really catching on, so.............






Hahahah poor Duck.... can't seem to find the right side of an issue to save his azz......
Made another 5k on GME and AMC today lol


Originally Posted by irfubar
Originally Posted by ribka
Your conservative hero, Fauxcohantas, agrees with you Cuck

https://www.warren.senate.gov/imo/m...20Warren%20to%20Acting%20Chair%20Lee.pdf





Originally Posted by duck911
Originally Posted by ribka
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Originally Posted by duck911
What happened this week was, and is frightening.

It is a shocking wake up call.

Hedge funds and those that short stocks are heavily regulated. Most importantly, shorting provides some balance to the market and expectations are known, and prices built in. It is expected, as part of the rules of engagement. Economists for decades now have said it is a healthy check-and-balance to a free market.

What happened on Reddit was a new phenomenon of massive market manipulation via social media. The market is NOT prepared for this kind of coordinated effort to manipulate stocks, nor are their rules to address it, nor are the massive price swings pre-baked into the market. This wasn't a few happy basement-dwelling millennials buying some lame Gamestop stocks, it was a grassroots movement to sabotage the ebb and flow of the base of our economy.

While perhaps nothing illegal actually happened, this is pretty unprecedented, and I am not in the "happy camp" that this chit show is happening.

But, you all keep high fiving. Reddit and Robinhood are liberal whorehouses. And that's where this all started.

That should tell you something.


lmao I made an extra 11 k today.



Congrats? No one cares.

You ignored, or missed, the entire premise of my post.

But, you aren't known here for really catching on, so.............






Hahahah poor Duck.... can't seem to find the right side of an issue to save his azz......
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye

So, when the sellers of the shorts ask for it.

Or the broker calls it.
I believe that the next options expiration date is 2/20

Hopefully, for the gamers, the company is selling enough treasury stock to get is head above water because the earnings don't merit the price or valuation.
Originally Posted by duck911
What happened this week was, and is frightening.

It is a shocking wake up call.

Hedge funds and those that short stocks are heavily regulated. Most importantly, shorting provides some balance to the market and expectations are known, and prices built in. It is expected, as part of the rules of engagement. Economists for decades now have said it is a healthy check-and-balance to a free market.

What happened on Reddit was a new phenomenon of massive market manipulation via social media. The market is NOT prepared for this kind of coordinated effort to manipulate stocks, nor are their rules to address it, nor are the massive price swings pre-baked into the market. This wasn't a few happy basement-dwelling millennials buying some lame Gamestop stocks, it was a grassroots movement to sabotage the ebb and flow of the base of our economy.

While perhaps nothing illegal actually happened, this is pretty unprecedented, and I am not in the "happy camp" that this chit show is happening.

But, you all keep high fiving. Reddit and Robinhood are liberal whorehouses. And that's where this all started.

That should tell you something.








So those who the government lackies say are ok to manipulate the market are fine, but when a bunch of individuals go in and do the same that’s different.

When hedge funds lose money they’re too big to fail and get a bailout from our tax dollars, but if it’s my 401(k) oh well that’s how the game works keep up the investing you’ll get there sooner or later?

You’re a mask wearer aren’t you?
Originally Posted by ribka
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Originally Posted by duck911
What happened this week was, and is frightening.

It is a shocking wake up call.

Hedge funds and those that short stocks are heavily regulated. Most importantly, shorting provides some balance to the market and expectations are known, and prices built in. It is expected, as part of the rules of engagement. Economists for decades now have said it is a healthy check-and-balance to a free market.

What happened on Reddit was a new phenomenon of massive market manipulation via social media. The market is NOT prepared for this kind of coordinated effort to manipulate stocks, nor are their rules to address it, nor are the massive price swings pre-baked into the market. This wasn't a few happy basement-dwelling millennials buying some lame Gamestop stocks, it was a grassroots movement to sabotage the ebb and flow of the base of our economy.

While perhaps nothing illegal actually happened, this is pretty unprecedented, and I am not in the "happy camp" that this chit show is happening.

But, you all keep high fiving. Reddit and Robinhood are liberal whorehouses. And that's where this all started.

That should tell you something.


lmao I made an extra 11 k today.

about as accurate as your analysis of the George Floyd shooting. Whats your thoughts of the new Sect of the Treasury involvement (deep state)in this and her speaking fees?

And congress and family members can still legally use insider information to game the system.


But dear ol Martha Stewart saw prison time for the same thing. What hypocrisy.
I still find the Verizon internet outage last Tuesday awfully suspicious, particularly as they're now pulling out all the stops to include halts on trading specific stocks. That was a big outage.

That felt like an attempt to fire break the run up that morning. Look at the GME charts that day from about 11am to 1pm when the outage occurred… you'll see price and volume drop and then surge as the outage recovers.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/verizon-internet-outage-disrupts-usage-in-northeast-11611685745
Originally Posted by ribka
Made another 5k on GME and AMC today lol


Originally Posted by irfubar
Originally Posted by ribka
Your conservative hero, Fauxcohantas, agrees with you Cuck

https://www.warren.senate.gov/imo/m...20Warren%20to%20Acting%20Chair%20Lee.pdf





Originally Posted by duck911
Originally Posted by ribka
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Originally Posted by duck911
What happened this week was, and is frightening.

It is a shocking wake up call.

Hedge funds and those that short stocks are heavily regulated. Most importantly, shorting provides some balance to the market and expectations are known, and prices built in. It is expected, as part of the rules of engagement. Economists for decades now have said it is a healthy check-and-balance to a free market.

What happened on Reddit was a new phenomenon of massive market manipulation via social media. The market is NOT prepared for this kind of coordinated effort to manipulate stocks, nor are their rules to address it, nor are the massive price swings pre-baked into the market. This wasn't a few happy basement-dwelling millennials buying some lame Gamestop stocks, it was a grassroots movement to sabotage the ebb and flow of the base of our economy.

While perhaps nothing illegal actually happened, this is pretty unprecedented, and I am not in the "happy camp" that this chit show is happening.

But, you all keep high fiving. Reddit and Robinhood are liberal whorehouses. And that's where this all started.

That should tell you something.


lmao I made an extra 11 k today.



Congrats? No one cares.

You ignored, or missed, the entire premise of my post.

But, you aren't known here for really catching on, so.............






Hahahah poor Duck.... can't seem to find the right side of an issue to save his azz......



I passed on the GME opportunity. I do own a bit of AMC and am watching closely. GME short float at ~120%. AMC short float around 42%.

Hope to make some money on AMC. Nuts that GME short float got so high.
Originally Posted by Showdog75
Originally Posted by ribka
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Originally Posted by duck911
What happened this week was, and is frightening.

It is a shocking wake up call.

Hedge funds and those that short stocks are heavily regulated. Most importantly, shorting provides some balance to the market and expectations are known, and prices built in. It is expected, as part of the rules of engagement. Economists for decades now have said it is a healthy check-and-balance to a free market.

What happened on Reddit was a new phenomenon of massive market manipulation via social media. The market is NOT prepared for this kind of coordinated effort to manipulate stocks, nor are their rules to address it, nor are the massive price swings pre-baked into the market. This wasn't a few happy basement-dwelling millennials buying some lame Gamestop stocks, it was a grassroots movement to sabotage the ebb and flow of the base of our economy.

While perhaps nothing illegal actually happened, this is pretty unprecedented, and I am not in the "happy camp" that this chit show is happening.

But, you all keep high fiving. Reddit and Robinhood are liberal whorehouses. And that's where this all started.

That should tell you something.


lmao I made an extra 11 k today.

about as accurate as your analysis of the George Floyd shooting. Whats your thoughts of the new Sect of the Treasury involvement (deep state)in this and her speaking fees?

And congress and family members can still legally use insider information to game the system.


But dear ol Martha Stewart saw prison time for the same thing. What hypocrisy.


Martha Stewart was involved in insider trading and lying about it. This is something totally different, no insider training here. Watching CNBC is almost comical now with them yelling for new rules and regulations. When they do it it’s ok though.
Originally Posted by duck911
What happened this week was, and is frightening.

It is a shocking wake up call.

Hedge funds and those that short stocks are heavily regulated. Most importantly, shorting provides some balance to the market and expectations are known, and prices built in. It is expected, as part of the rules of engagement. Economists for decades now have said it is a healthy check-and-balance to a free market.

What happened on Reddit was a new phenomenon of massive market manipulation via social media. The market is NOT prepared for this kind of coordinated effort to manipulate stocks, nor are their rules to address it, nor are the massive price swings pre-baked into the market. This wasn't a few happy basement-dwelling millennials buying some lame Gamestop stocks, it was a grassroots movement to sabotage the ebb and flow of the base of our economy.

While perhaps nothing illegal actually happened, this is pretty unprecedented, and I am not in the "happy camp" that this chit show is happening.

But, you all keep high fiving. Reddit and Robinhood are liberal whorehouses. And that's where this all started.

That should tell you something.








The Wall Street Swamp got spanked, and you're defending it.

Hedge funds make zillions, destroying retail investors. They could care less, and the big investors could care less. This is much like President Trump's election in 2015. The swamp-rats howled and griped. They act like they are demigods who are too important to vanish.

I sincerely hope the small retail investor movement burns down all hedge funds and levels the field.
Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs
Originally Posted by ribka
Made another 5k on GME and AMC today lol


Originally Posted by irfubar
Originally Posted by ribka
Your conservative hero, Fauxcohantas, agrees with you Cuck

https://www.warren.senate.gov/imo/m...20Warren%20to%20Acting%20Chair%20Lee.pdf





Originally Posted by duck911
Originally Posted by ribka
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Originally Posted by duck911
What happened this week was, and is frightening.

It is a shocking wake up call.

Hedge funds and those that short stocks are heavily regulated. Most importantly, shorting provides some balance to the market and expectations are known, and prices built in. It is expected, as part of the rules of engagement. Economists for decades now have said it is a healthy check-and-balance to a free market.

What happened on Reddit was a new phenomenon of massive market manipulation via social media. The market is NOT prepared for this kind of coordinated effort to manipulate stocks, nor are their rules to address it, nor are the massive price swings pre-baked into the market. This wasn't a few happy basement-dwelling millennials buying some lame Gamestop stocks, it was a grassroots movement to sabotage the ebb and flow of the base of our economy.

While perhaps nothing illegal actually happened, this is pretty unprecedented, and I am not in the "happy camp" that this chit show is happening.

But, you all keep high fiving. Reddit and Robinhood are liberal whorehouses. And that's where this all started.

That should tell you something.


lmao I made an extra 11 k today.



Congrats? No one cares.

You ignored, or missed, the entire premise of my post.

But, you aren't known here for really catching on, so.............






Hahahah poor Duck.... can't seem to find the right side of an issue to save his azz......



I passed on the GME opportunity. I do own a bit of AMC and am watching closely. GME short float at ~120%. AMC short float around 42%.

Hope to make some money on AMC. Nuts that GME short float got so high.

The brokers w/o loaned the stock will make out.
Because the shorts were greater than 100% the loaners will get their shares returned and be able to sell them (settle out with others who have not yet closed) for a nice profit.

That is the price of naked shorts...
The other option is GameStop could sell treasury stock to the holders of the naked shorts.(at whatever price they choose up to market price, which will probably continue to climb at least until short interest drops below 90%).
Originally Posted by Hudge
... Martha Stewart was invoked in insider trading and lying about it. This is something totally different, no insider training here. Watching CNBC is almost comical now with them yelling for new rules and regulations. When they do it it’s ok though.

Martha was not part of the club.... Nor were the individual investors that played GameStop...

George Carlin and the "Big Club..."

Originally Posted by Stickfight
Originally Posted by duck911
this is pretty unprecedented


No it isn't.

Do you think these hedge funds aren't manipulating the market? They aren't colluding with one another? With their friends in the media? When Tesla was one of the most shorted companies, do you think the thousands of articles that Bloomberg and CNBC and Motley and the like aimed at retail investors about how their business model was untenable were just independent organic outpourings of genuine concern for everyone's finances? Gamestop got this same treatment.

Robinhood receives a good portion of their revenue from Citadel by selling trading data. Where people are setting limits, order queues, etc etc. so Citadel can feed that information into their HFT. This is a business where getting information a few fractions of a second faster than your opponent makes a difference and the people involved are operating with wildly different sets of information and power positions.

It was not out of concern for their users that some (((brokerages))) suspended buys, it was so the affected funds would keep paying them for data.

It was not out of concern for their users that Google deleted thousands of 1 star reviews for the Robinhood app, it because Google is (((connected))) to those same funds.

It was not out of concern for their readers that Jewsweek published this, it was to keep more normans from buying GME.

We can either have an economy that is incentivized to produce genuine value that improves our lives or we can have one that is manipulated to serve the financial interests of a narrow slice of ~2.5% of the population. There are no new Remington 700s on shelves not because producing them is not a viable business model, but because people like the "victims" in this short squeeze used the above network of professional manipulators to drain all of its financial value into their bank account and then were allowed to walk away with everyone else having to deal with Remington's corpse. You are arguing for more of that, I'm arguing for less.

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=%22Short-...ame+for+years%2C%22&t=osx&ia=web



BRAVO!
Originally Posted by duck911
What happened this week was, and is frightening.

It is a shocking wake up call.

...

That should tell you something.



The only thing I’ve learned from the above is that you’re even dumber than I originally thought. Like way, way dumber.
Originally Posted by Ducksanddogs
Originally Posted by duck911
What happened this week was, and is frightening.

It is a shocking wake up call.

...

That should tell you something.



The only thing I’ve learned from the above is that you’re even dumber than I originally thought. Like way, way dumber.



Ive always been a big fan of Charles Payne



The great conservative patriot cuck911 is probably making big bucks palying and betting on golf and the NFL with Chuck Yeager and Arnie Palmer this weekend.
Originally Posted by Ducksanddogs
Originally Posted by duck911
What happened this week was, and is frightening.

It is a shocking wake up call.

...

That should tell you something.



The only thing I’ve learned from the above is that you’re even dumber than I originally thought. Like way, way dumber.


He thinks he is one of "them" the elitist..... wink
Thank you Charles !!

kwg
Interesting
WSJ:
After the stock of AMC quadrupled, Silver Lake opted to convert its $600 Million convertible debt stake to equity.
This reduced AMCs debt load by 10% and provided Silver Lake with a more certain payout, if not a profit.AMC now has a fighting chance of survival if they take appropriate actions.
Note: Silver Lake has control of a board seat at Twitter. They, along with Elliot Capital Management attempted to replace Jack Dorsey once before. Upon taking their respective stakes in Twitter the rest of the board required them to sign a content non-interference clause lasting until the spring of 2021.

I wonder who was thinking about the election at that time?
Whatever they can do to phuqq her over is fine with me.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fo...nhood-citadel-gamestop-speaking-fees.amp
Originally Posted by irfubar
Originally Posted by Ducksanddogs
Originally Posted by duck911
What happened this week was, and is frightening.

It is a shocking wake up call.

...

That should tell you something.



The only thing I’ve learned from the above is that you’re even dumber than I originally thought. Like way, way dumber.


He thinks he is one of "them" the elitist..... wink


Bingo!
Originally Posted by 16bore
Whatever they can do to phuqq her over is fine with me.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fo...nhood-citadel-gamestop-speaking-fees.amp


Yellen received $800G from hedge fund in Gamestop controversy; WH doesn't commit to recusal
The Senate confirmed Yellen on Monday
By Sam Dorman | Fox News


Biden picks Janet Yellen as Treasury Secretary, Needra Tanden as Director of OMB

President-elect Joe Biden's economic picks met with mixed reviews in US and around the globe; reaction from financial expert Mitch Roschelle.

Newly-confirmed Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen received around $810,000 in speaking fees from the hedge fund that bailed out one of the primary losers in the recent Gamestop frenzy.

Yellen's financial disclosure shows her making $337,500 for multiple days in Oct. of 2020 from Citadel. She similarly banked $292,500 in October of 2019 and $180,000 in December of that year.

The Senate confirmed Yellen on Monday, making her the first female secretary of the department. She previously chaired the Federal Reserve after an appointment by former President Obama.

SURGING GAMESTOP STOCK CREATING CHAOS FOR HEDGE FUNDS

Both Citadel and Point72 infused almost $3 billion into Melvin Capital, which saw massive losses after betting against the video game retailer Gamestop. The White House said on Wednesday that Yellen was monitoring the situation.

White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki was asked Thursday during the daily briefing whether Yellen would recuse herself from advising the president on Gamestop. Psaki did not commit one way or another.

The Treasury Department did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

Citadel does business with Robinhood, the trading app that helped fuel the massive stock activity that hit Melvin Capital. Robinhood said Thursday investors would only be able to sell their positions and not open new ones in some cases, and Robinhood will try to slow the amount of trading using borrowed money.

GameStop stock has rocketed from below $20 earlier to close around $350 Wednesday. The action was even wilder Thursday: The stock swung between $112 and $483. At midday it was down 27% at $255.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.
Originally Posted by duck911
What happened this week was, and is frightening how a truly free and open market is supposed to operate without illegal market manipulation by the elite.

It is a shocking wake up call was pure capitalism at its core.


.
Rules for thee, not for me. Here’s your pittance peasant. Stay away from my fence.
Originally Posted by ElkSlayer91
Originally Posted by duck911
What happened this week was, and is frightening how a truly free and open market is supposed to operate without illegal market manipulation by the elite.

It is a shocking wake up call was pure capitalism at its core.


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Should be requoted over and over.

Regardless of which conspiracy is popular today. I saw more people involved in the market for the first time than any time I can remember. Unlike many who’ve thrown in the towel after the election the people who surprised me by being in this new group of Investors further surprised me by explaining about a dozen more investments they are grouping together on. 20 year old Plant Technicians and others in similar age/economic status have had a light bulb turned on and I don’t think, I hope they don’t lose their will.

I don’t care if the Redditer’s are far left, far right, or firm mods, the truth is we buy a lot of things that don’t appear to make financial sense. We “invest” in campaigns that might lose short term but do so taking the long view. What happened to this group of investors is beyond criminal and all involved should be seeing prison bars.

I suspect the real fear is if the right protesters and left start aligning for common causes it will be a tidal wave. I suspect politicians know this and that’s why both sides are starting to try and align their message. I’m hopeful it’ll be rejected by the masses.
The left and right have done a good job of distracting the masses while they play their game.

You should dislike this guy because he’s gay.
You should hate people who have abortions.
They don’t need guns.
They deserve your money.
His great great great grandfather owned your great great great grandfather so you should hate him.

So on and so on for decades and decades.


It’s time the top realizes it ain’t just party. The younger generation will “out technology” the old guard. Collectively that’s more power than they could dream of.

Think about it.
" Any of you guys who worked for a firm that was bellied up by a hedge fund " that says it all.
http://counterfeitingstock.com/CS2.0/CounterfeitingStock.html

Great piece explaining the inner workings of the short sale and its effect on markets, shorted companies, etc.
I keep reading that the hedge fund managers buy stocks that they are predicting will drop, then buy them back at a lower price when they do.

That's a lie.

The hedge fund managers band together and cause a stock to drop by short selling it. They kill its price then buy it back at a cheaper price and pocket the difference.

They don't predict schitt. They cause the price to drop.
Originally Posted by Bristoe
I keep reading that the hedge fund managers buy stocks that they are predicting will drop, then buy them back at a lower price when they do.

That's a lie.

The hedge fund managers band together and cause a stock to drop by short selling it. They kill its price then buy it back at a cheaper price and pocket the difference.

They don't predict schitt. They cause the price to drop.

Can't happen. That's illegal to manipulate the market like that......and there are laws against it to protect the public retail accounts, and others.
Read the material linked above.
Originally Posted by kingston
Read the material linked above.


I think that was sarcasm on Elkslayer's part.
Originally Posted by Bristoe
I keep reading that the hedge fund managers buy stocks that they are predicting will drop, then buy them back at a lower price when they do.

That's a lie.

The hedge fund managers band together and cause a stock to drop by short selling it. They kill its price then buy it back at a cheaper price and pocket the difference.

They don't predict schitt. They cause the price to drop.

Exactly. The reverse of what the Reddit folks did. But that's okay.
Originally Posted by Bristoe
I keep reading that the hedge fund managers buy stocks that they are predicting will drop, then buy them back at a lower price when they do.

That's a lie.

The hedge fund managers band together and cause a stock to drop by short selling it. They kill its price then buy it back at a cheaper price and pocket the difference.

They don't predict schitt. They cause the price to drop.


Wrong. Sorry.

A thousand (at least) broke Tesla bears would like a word with you....the most famous being a guy named Jim Chanos.
AMC up over $16 in premarket.
Originally Posted by 16bore
The left and right have done a good job of distracting the masses while they play their game.

You should dislike this guy because he’s gay.
You should hate people who have abortions.
They don’t need guns.
They deserve your money.
His great great great grandfather owned your great great great grandfather so you should hate him.

So on and so on for decades and decades.


It’s time the top realizes it ain’t just party. The younger generation will “out technology” the old guard. Collectively that’s more power than they could dream of.

Think about it.


fallacious

Equivocating positions saying they're the same, is ridiculous.
Originally Posted by RJY66
Wrong. Sorry.


It isn’t wrong, it is just that both things happen. Sometimes shorts aren’t well connected enough, or their media campaigns can’t convince enough people, and they go broke. TSLA and AMZN are good examples of that because the hedgies weren’t able to lie enough for long enough to affect their trajectory.

There are plenty of examples of success. One irrefutable one was International Taser. Jew short hedgie Jim Cramer was running a financial journalism site called TheStreet.com. He employed several Jew journalists who eventually moved on to other publications.
At least one of them ended up at USA Today and worked on an article about International Taser that one day happened to take up half the front page and essentially said that getting tased was the same thing at sitting in an electric chair, a conclusion they came to by “accidentally” overestimating the current a taser delivers by about 1,000,000x. In a crazy coincidence that I’m sure you won’t believe, Cramer and his Jew hedgie friends just happened to be short TASR. The article crashed their stock price and they closed. 3 days later USA Today printed a clarification about their “math error”.

Cramer has talked about this strategy openly and you can hear him describe it in the video until he gets YouTube to take it down, or their AI gets good enough to find it despite the editing.

Cramer shouldn’t even be allowed to trade baseball cards, let alone securities, but CNBC puts him on TV all the time. I wonder (((why)))?



As an aside, Cramer hiring almost exclusively Jews at TheStreet is one instance where the “Jews are just better” claim actually holds up. If your team will be tasked with sitting behind a keyboard and telling lies to destroy the economies of individuals and companies and small countries, and you don’t want to deal with them raising ethical objections, you can do no better than selecting from Jewish stock. They are born ready.
From r/wallstreebets regarding the MSM's massive disinformation campaign trying to undermine the GME squeeze. The kiddos are waking up. This is good news.

[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]
The great awakening is happening right before our eyes.


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Originally Posted by 16bore
Rules for thee, not for me. Here’s your pittance peasant. Stay away from my fence.


Word.
Originally Posted by kingston
The great awakening is happening right before our eyes.


[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]


Too funny. They’re not touching silver.
Is CNN publicly traded? smile
How much is silver climbing? I have a shietload of coins I could dump if it were to my liking.
Originally Posted by grouseman
Is CNN publicly traded? smile


I like your thinking....we have the power to start crashing some of these companies. The liberals threaten to boycott advertising. The middle class is stronger than the Liberals. We could crash publicly traded companies.
Originally Posted by grouseman
Is CNN publicly traded? smile

AT&T
Originally Posted by Bristoe
I keep reading that the hedge fund managers buy stocks that they are predicting will drop, then buy them back at a lower price when they do.

That's a lie.

The hedge fund managers band together and cause a stock to drop by short selling it. They kill its price then buy it back at a cheaper price and pocket the difference.

They don't predict schitt. They cause the price to drop.


Obviously hedge fund managers don't BUY stocks they are predicting will drop.

I doubt that short sales have enough volume to cause a stock to drop; short sellers expect actual sellers to drive the stock down, whereupon the short sellers buy the stock to cover their position, pocketing a tidy little profit in the process. The short sellers primarily influence the direction the stock moves if other investors see a short position in the stock and act on that information. This time their gambit didn't work because actual buyers overwhelmed actual sellers and drove the price up, thus squeezing the short sellers. Hooray for the little guys!
When will the big boys in the big boy club set a trap for the Reddit gang. They have to be plotting revenge. The only question is how they'll do it. I hope they get caught in their own trap again. There has to be some move to push the little guy out of cheap internet trading.
Originally Posted by There_Ya_Go
Originally Posted by Bristoe
I keep reading that the hedge fund managers buy stocks that they are predicting will drop, then buy them back at a lower price when they do.

That's a lie.

The hedge fund managers band together and cause a stock to drop by short selling it. They kill its price then buy it back at a cheaper price and pocket the difference.

They don't predict schitt. They cause the price to drop.


Obviously hedge fund managers don't BUY stocks they are predicting will drop.

I doubt that short sales have enough volume to cause a stock to drop; short sellers expect actual sellers to drive the stock down, whereupon the short sellers buy the stock to cover their position, pocketing a tidy little profit in the process. The short sellers primarily influence the direction the stock moves if other investors see a short position in the stock and act on that information. This time their gambit didn't work because actual buyers overwhelmed actual sellers and drove the price up, thus squeezing the short sellers. Hooray for the little guys!


I know little about the market. Most of that, I learned in the last ten days.

But I would suspect the reason the hedge fund managers targeted GME is that it is a very small corporation and the stock values are easily manipulated.

Exactly why the managers got bit in the butt so badly.
Originally Posted by Bristoe
Originally Posted by kingston
Read the material linked above.


I think that was sarcasm on Elkslayer's part.

Correct you are. See the hostess as you leave to get your door prize grin
$GME at $116.31.......rut row Shaggy.
Originally Posted by ElkSlayer91
Originally Posted by Bristoe
Originally Posted by kingston
Read the material linked above.


I think that was sarcasm on Elkslayer's part.

Correct you are. See the hostess as you leave to get your door prize grin

Shares of GameStop?
$89.51
You guys talk like the game is rigged. Nonsense. Oh, by the way, Janet Yellen received 7.2 million dollars in speaking fees according to Forbes which ain't exactly a conservative source.
You mean she sold $7.2M in favors. Good girl.....
Hey Stickfight, explain this.......pretty interesting.


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