I posted this as a response to another thread and wanted to create a separate one to get other people's thoughts on the subject!

The reason We The People will never revolt is because the vast majority of us are family orientated people who work, go home, spend time with family, pay bills, and relent to the simple fact that they cannot do anything to change the system because of a clear fear that any resistance & the government will step in and TAKE EVERYTHING AWAY from you. We see it all the time! The "little person" gets screwed royally while the "powerful" gets away with anything!!!

Now, am I willing to give up everything for my principles, morals and values. Yes I am one of those guys but I am not naive enough to go at it alone....... AND HENCE THE PROBLEM. We can talk about revolution all day but until there is a concerted, unified & organized effort it will never amount to crap.

I'm not talking about a few hundred or even a few thousand that is organized together but Hundreds of thousands is needed and I just don't see that many people willing to give up their lifestyle and ultimately their life for Liberty. "Give me liberty or give me death" sounds heroic & patriotic but how many are ACTUALLY WILLING to give up their life for Liberty???

Leaders!!! We need powerful leaders (like what we had during the Revolutionary War) like George Washington, Alexander Hamilton, Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Jefferson, etc...... We need other countries allied with and supporting a revolt.
Who would step up to fill that bill? France 😂 England 😂 Spain 😂 Australia 🤔 Canada 😂 etc.... Why would no countries back a a civil war in America? 💲💲💲💲💲💲💲💲💲💲💲💲💲💲💲💲💲
Any country that stood up to the current American leadership would lose BILLIONS & BILLIONS of dollars that America currently pays them.

So I am not holding onto any perceived notion... Right now, we just do not have the organization to accomplish anything so massive!

That may be like, you don't have to die for your country, but let the other(bleep) die for his.

I fear that I may find the answer to this question sooner rather than later.

Nobody is going to do it until they are hungry, truly hungry....and they start seeing their brethren hauled away....

You seem to be missing the point, are you willing to give up all you own for socialism/communism? Our lifestyles are already at risk. Do you think all this leftist idiocy is going to end well and we will be unscathed? Nobody wants civil war, this time it is about keeping we the people from becoming property of the state. Will you fight against that?

I would give everything up for Freedom!

The way it is going ,we might not have a choice. Stock market crash, food shortage, people going broke. Not much to lose.

Most if not all wars are fought over money. Most are also, a rich man's war, and a poor man's fight.

My point exactly, when you dont have much to lose...it will be worth the risk.

In my perception, a lot of people have lived long with the notion that certain things "can't happen here, this is America." I wouldn't hang my hat on that idea, because just about anything can happen anywhere, including here. All it takes is the right (or wrong) spark at the right (or wrong) time in the right (or wrong) place.

Always refrain from saying "never."

I’m so glad I don’t live in a condo in ‘punta gordo” or wherever the fouck ever.

Neegers, queers, liberals lie.

Tear down monuments, do away flags...have they changed. All they do is take.

You don’t have freedom now, what is there give up?

You don’t have free and clear private property ownership, youre a managed peasant already.

This is a great description of where we are in time. I know what a civil war would bring, not good for my family. Myself I am willing to give up what I have personally but many don't want to inflict the pain on the family.
This is how they will slowly erode the great country we are. A leader is exactly what we need and Trump was the closest thing to that. This is why they are destroying him. I have been vocal before, we need to get in the streets if they do more to him. I don't see that happening the way we communicate now. They would have a head start quelling any meaningful protest.
I notice on the banner scrolling through Fox last night calling the Jan 6 protest a riot and all the riots by antifa and BLM as protests. The media is also the enemy to freedom now. I won't watch FOX but my wife still does. Keeping a blinded eye to what the media pushes is a big mistake. Harder for me since my wife's check comes from a media affiliate.

Most won't do anything until it's "personal".

From the movie, "The Dirty Dozen"

Capt. Stuart Kinder:
These people don't know their enemy is the Germans. They think the enemy is their own United States Army!

Major John Reisman:
Maybe that's because the Germans haven't done anything to them yet.

When enough are laid off and china's troops or UN troop's start marching across the USA there will be no stopping a civil war or any other war.

Until then most will soak up free stuff.

My guess is wondering which side active MIL and LEO will take, keeps what needs to happen from happening.

...and the really stupid thing , the left despises Mil and Leo both. Its comical really.

That is why the majority of this is talk by people with nothing better to do. So they are LARPing with Q, and Trumpism. Just the same way some far-left Social Justice Warriors run around. Kind of like a hobby. They are looking for something so they can feel self-important.

I've had a good run thanks to this amazing country, and I'll leave it at that.

Good people die in wars too.

Wars are not fought over money.
Wars are fought over real estate, wars are fought over religion

Since the beginning of this great country, it has been but 10% of the population that will take up arms to stop the tyranny and fight till the death.

The other 90% will just stand by and watch. Hasn't changed in 245 years.

I think war is here. It is a culture war that is being played out on the Internet and in the markets. Watch how Tesla is fighting Microsoft and Amazon. Why are shill players hating on Cathie Wood, David Portnoy, Joe Rogan and Wallstreetbets. Mark my words. The creators and new emerging frontier thinkers are being confronted by the liberal woke system. Our best bet is to start being part of Wallstreet Bets crowd and work to attack PC culture by backing innovation and fundamental value plays. Cryptocurrency and hard commodities(physical silver, gold and copper) are going to fight increasing pressure from woke dumbasses and Chinese. Your computer and Webull account will be a better weapon that your AR10. You can think and work and that threatens the hell out of them.

Me thinks at I my age,

I'll figure out a way to make a profit!

ya!

GWB

I'm of the firm belief that when the time comes a Civil war will be forced upon us and all we will have left to do is choose which side we will be on. If the left and their surrogates- the Antifas and BLMs of the left had continued on much longer with their destruction and anarchy, I'm pretty sure that would have come very close to a civil war breaking out. When the elected choose to support the criminals and don't protect the innocent, it is only a short matter of time before taking up arms will be required and it was close in this area and others last summer... let's see what happens when the weather improves and the anarchists are willing to come out and play again this spring/summer and see how far it goes....

Bob

I have always said “because you think it can’t happen here, it will happen here”

It’s here

At one time 56 brave men gave it all up for freedom. Some lost it all even their families. Some of the signers survived but their spouses did not. Imagine standing up for something then the enemy directly or indirectly kills your wife. That's what those men did for us. If you look at it in that likeness how could you do any less, unless of course you're a cowardly selfish person then when it does break out someone like me is going to force you to pick a side. You'd better choose wisely and be faithful to it afterwards.

If you are not willing to die for it, you already lost

Like it or not we the people that care about freedom are getting pushed in the corner and beat down by the left.how much more are we going to take?The day is coming to stand up!

LBJ arranged an opportunity to die for another country. I failed but am willing to die for my country. Question I ponder, will the scut get me early or will I run out of ammo?

The biggest challenge for patriots is organizing. The other side is master organizers. The problem is with those who are watching your every move. The government and tech companies that track any effort to organize is either complicit or will throw you under a bus asap. The left get a friggin pass all the time when they engage in their rent-a-mob antics because those who can track their communications allow it to happen. If patriots attempted to organize in a wide spread meaningful way, they would be put on every watchlist in existence and every such effort would be squashed before it got anywhere. Which is ironic in a way because it means we would need to operate in our local communities in a grass roots way, in a centralized way, which is our thing.

No, those who can track it, and whose responsibility to stop it, ARE the true organizers.

Any move Conservatives make will be exaggerated, blow out of proportion, and used as media fodder. See Jan 6.

See how much mileage the left is getting out of that little incident. See how it was actually perpetrated and escalated by left wing plants for that very reason.

The left is looking for any excuse to crack down on us like Hitler did the Jews.

If there are enough people to win a civil war, thinking there are enough to accomplish the same peacefully.

Organization, the right words and methods would be the tough part...the left is well versed in those.

What if a million people marched on Washington, each carrying a pot of cooked spaghetti noodles? All the vegan dems would gobble it down. Then one driven patriot could light their farts. Epic and hysterical at the same time.

There is no winning peacefully. Our opponents are willing, even eager to kill as many of us as it takes to cement their eternal control. What will you offer them to accept you living free of their control? When all they want is to control or kill you, you have nothing to negotiate with. It is an existential fight, and one must needs kill the other before there is peace.

Additionally, it is damn hard to sell the uncertainty and hard work of liberty to folks being offered rainbow stew and easy living.

If I remember correctly the people in Afghanistan fought the Russians for 10 years and the Russians never really gained any ground. We haven't gained much being there either. Granted they had some outside help with the Russians but they provide a good example of how gorilla warfare works.

Yes, we need leaders like the Founding Fathers.... but more importantly, we need PEOPLE like the founding generation of people. We ain't got that. "We" aren't even a people. "We" are SO disparate and SO diverse and SO different from one another now (((by design))). Even here on the campfire, I'm sure that few of us have much anything in common with each other. "We" would not know, or agree on what we would be fighting for, or who we'd be fighting against. Granted, the founding stock of this nation were not entirely monolithic in their beliefs, but they were a damn sight closer to being one people than "we" are today. "We" are royally screwed.

I've been up for armed rebellion for 30 years... but, one man does not a revolution make. I'll just have to do what I have to do to take care of myself and my people, and do what is right, live or die.

This!!!!!!!!!^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ In conjunction with deer license sales alone. America has a domestic army bigger than any army in the world. Including our own. Hope all on the wrong side of it are sleeping well.




Take care, Willie

When I am no longer free to pursue Life, Liberty and Happiness as I choose... I am already dead.

Your opinion may vary.

Still every time you post I feel better about seeing hundreds of leftist scum hanging from trees.

"Guerrilla"

I love you, man!

You just made my weekend, and it ain't even Friday yet.

Who would you fight for?

The RNC and Romney?

Lots to negotiate with. What if people quit working? Or shipping stuff to the cities? It wouldn't take long to get noticed.
The NRA had influence with a few million members. How much influence could 50 million productive people have? All it takes is organization and leadership, something not just anyone can do.
Shooting each other ought to be the absolute last resort.

Well said.

And that’s me for sure.

When I can no longer see an outcome worse for my kids due to me “Giving everything up and going to war” vs me staying I’ll go. Until then, I’ll sacrifice my ideals for my family.

Remember, your cell phone hears everything you are saying...

More like the ground I stand on. And leftist scum hanging from trees at sunset.

Thanks for the correction

If I fight, it will be for my right to party. Not the RNC or the DNC

Lost my job and my ass in the obama years. Did great with The 4 Trump years. Now out of a job again. I hate foreign energy. I hate democrats.

I'm thinking the gun control issues will be the turning point myself. As long as I have the right and means protect myself and my family I sort of feel free. Take that away and I have no reason to continue being a slave to our government.

I've asked the same thing, Jimmy. I have lots of guns and ammo and have proven in the past that I am willing to die for my country, but who do I shoot first?

At this point it's best to be right out in the open - me I'm not hiding that I'll not give another inch on gun control - I know the law of the land is the 2nd A .
The govt can put me on any watchlist they want they can also KMA !!!!!!

The men who signed the Declaration of Independence knew that they were risking everything for the revolution. If the King had succeeded in defeating the revolution everyone who had signed would have been hung. They were largely wealthy, educated and successful men.

Use the fossil fuel industry unions to gather the laid off workers. Maybe they know.

Actually...no.

War is always poor Men dying for rich men's assets.


Anyone that thinks different has not been paying attention, or believes the bullshit.

You say you want a Revolution? Well, we all want to change the world.

The truth of the matter is that the American Revolution did not have overwhelming support. At best, there was about 1/3 of the population that was behind it. Another third was dead-set against it, and the remaining third was at best ambivalent.

The 1/3 that was for it contained some of the wealthiest and influential people of the day. They were the ones hurt worst by the British taxation. If I remember correctly John Hancock made his biggest profits off smuggling from the West Indies and didn't like the way the Brits were cracking down. If the Brits had made it worth the while of a few dozen men, the Revolution probably would not have happened.

In the case of the Civil War, there was also a minority in favor in the South that actually had anything to gain from secession. However, it was these fellows that ran the state legislatures. Similarly, the North found itself being led by a regime that wanted to save the Union when there was a strong minority that would have just as soon seen the south go its own way. U.S. Grant attributed the war to the advent of the railroads. Once folks up north started taking the train into the deep south and saw what slavery really was, they were revulsed. However, this was a minority opinion in 1860.

I have more faith in the MIL to do what's right. As we seen all summer LEO does not have the sack to do what's right.
, in fact it will be LEO that comes for you.

Knowing who and where the enemy is in your backyard is a start.

Who to shoot first? Who is causing all the problems? Watch the fake news.

We could lose 1/2 of what we have and still have twice as much (if not more) than the rest of the world. Freedoms, possessions, etc.

We just get nibbled on.

A civil war would consume a lot of people, me and the wife included. All of us who are dependent upon modern medicine for survival would likely be headed into a grave.

Careful how you word that sentiment nowadays.

My American has always been great and treated me well too.

See that as the tipping point as well. Any idiot can tell what's going to happen to a disarmed populace, and if even a fraction of our armed populace doesn't comply and/or resist we will have a number of folks they simply won't be able to deal with.

And +1 on the Guerrilla warfare idea. Its our only chance when that day comes.

Registration should be where the line is drawn. Historically registration of firearms invariably leads to confiscation. Confiscation just as invariably leads to genocide.

Is he suppose to be quiet ? If 50 million would open their mouths and speak up man-style the other side 'might' think twice about breaking the laws they swore to uphold .