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Posted By: wabigoon Other than a handgun? - 03/24/21
I carry pepper spray.

There are all sorts of defense weapons.

Care to name some?
Originally Posted by wabigoon
I carry pepper spray.

There are all sorts of defense weapons.

Care to name some?

Blackjack, Taser, knife.
Posted By: Oldman03 Re: Other than a handgun? - 03/24/21
Broken axe handle
Posted By: TrueGrit Re: Other than a handgun? - 03/24/21
Knives.
Posted By: JeffA Re: Other than a handgun? - 03/24/21
Chainsaw
Posted By: 12344mag Re: Other than a handgun? - 03/24/21
Extra ammo.
Posted By: muleshoe Re: Other than a handgun? - 03/24/21
Common sense.
Posted By: wabigoon Re: Other than a handgun? - 03/24/21
Our minister has long range wasp spray behind the pulpit. Not portable.
Posted By: Utahunter Re: Other than a handgun? - 03/24/21
My wits and 38 years of LEO, SWAT, defensive tactics and Verbal Judo training. I also carry an extra magazine of 45 acp rounds and a knife.
Posted By: gitem_12 Re: Other than a handgun? - 03/24/21
Custom Cocobolo Nunchuks
Posted By: TimZ Re: Other than a handgun? - 03/24/21
retractable baton
Originally Posted by gitem_12
Custom Cocobolo Nunchuks

They don't have to be Cocobolo, but it doesn't hurt if they are. Nice, dense (therefore heavy), hard, wood.
Posted By: 673 Re: Other than a handgun? - 03/24/21
Commonly called up here, a (Paki whacker) about 3ft wooden club, one at the front door, one at the back door, one at my shop door and one under the seat of my truck.
If they get around that then its empty hand.
Posted By: stxhunter Re: Other than a handgun? - 03/24/21
knife, cold steel tomahawk in the truck also a breaker bar.
Posted By: wabigoon Re: Other than a handgun? - 03/24/21
Ripping hammer, some of these are not so easy to carry.
Posted By: szihn Re: Other than a handgun? - 03/24/21
The question as asked doesn't apply to me. In Wyoming (constitutional carry state) many carry handguns. I do, all the time. I also carry a lock blade knife, and I was trained on how to use knives as weapons when I was in the USMC and also when I worked for the DOD as a training officer. But my knife more a tool then a weapon. I work in my shop with my hands all day every day, and the use of my knife is something I do several times every day. I sharpen it every evening.

If I had to grab a tool and use it as a weapon I would probably grab a hammer of roofing axe. Another handy thing to have is a 40 inch hardwood short staff or very strong cane. (Walking stick)

But, as someone who used to earn my living in the world of violence and later trained troops to do the same, I can say this kind of questions are interesting for comparing thoughts, but are actually misguided. It's FAR MORE about the fighter then the tool. If you are trained correctly and you start to understand the real world you will know YOU are the weapon. What you have in your hand is a tool for that weapon to use.

If you have nothing in your hand and you think you are un-armed your training is not correct. Once you are trained correctly you'll see everything can be used as "force multipliers' from pencils to books to hair brushes to knives to handguns to AK47, M16s and FALSs. All are weak in the hands of a sheep and all are dangerous in the hands of a warrior.

Seeing you are in Canada I assume carry of a handgun is off-limits to you? I know nothing about knife laws in Canada today either. Last time I was there was in the Yukon in the 70s and the men I was involved with were part of the Canadian Army, so weapons were issued and common, but I can't say how the laws would be for those outside the military services. I might recommend a cane or walking stick and the training on how to use it to deadly effect. Once you know how to use such things to the maximum effect you can "throttle them back" as the need dictated. Something like this works well.
https://lapolicegear.com/kabar-self-defense-9406-cane.html?avad=269625_e20c45aad
Posted By: wabigoon Re: Other than a handgun? - 03/24/21
No Szihn, I have fun in Canada, make a living in Iowa.
Posted By: ironbender Re: Other than a handgun? - 03/24/21
Originally Posted by Oldman3
Broken axe handle

Nothing like a nice piece of hickory.
Posted By: MM879 Re: Other than a handgun? - 03/24/21
Originally Posted by wabigoon
Our minister has long range wasp spray behind the pulpit. Not portable.

Do you have a problem with the Irish in your community?
Posted By: ironbender Re: Other than a handgun? - 03/24/21
Originally Posted by wabigoon
Our minister has long range wasp spray behind the pulpit. Not portable.

There are YouTube videos of people being sprayed with wasp spray that show it to not be very effective.
FWIW
Posted By: wabigoon Re: Other than a handgun? - 03/24/21
I've heard that Mike.
Posted By: byron Re: Other than a handgun? - 03/24/21
The toe of my boots.
Posted By: 673 Re: Other than a handgun? - 03/24/21
Szihn is correct, a weapon is simply an extention of your body, no matter the weapon.
You need to be mentally prepared to use it, and defend against the same weapon.


Lately I've been carrying a NY reload. A Colt Detective Special in a Galco Hornet cross draw holster on my left side, and a Sig P-365 in a IWB holster on my right side.

Also pack a Buck 110 auto on my belt.

I have an aluminum "fish whacker" in the passenger seat back pocket of my truck, one in the kitchen, and a shortened maul handle in the TV room.

Virgil B.
Posted By: ironbender Re: Other than a handgun? - 03/24/21
Originally Posted by wabigoon
I've heard that Mike.

Keep pastor missy safe!
Posted By: EthanEdwards Re: Other than a handgun? - 03/24/21
Originally Posted by wabigoon
I carry pepper spray.

There are all sorts of defense weapons.

Care to name some?
Cudgel. Truncheon.

I'm the model for this artistry.

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Posted By: EthanEdwards Re: Other than a handgun? - 03/24/21
That's my pet bird...I call him "mofo". He says "f u c k" a lot.
Posted By: wabigoon Re: Other than a handgun? - 03/24/21
A lot of our church security was lost when they quit having ushers,
Posted By: 700LH Re: Other than a handgun? - 03/24/21
Know a guy gave a young road rager at his door a face full of starting fluid.
Seemed to be very effective, except he was injured some and limped awhile afterward from kicking the fool in the ass as he was bent over holding his face crying the blues

The road rage promptly ended grin
Posted By: gitem_12 Re: Other than a handgun? - 03/24/21
actually, with the semi resurgence of the fashion of walking sticks...one of those Cold Steel shilalieghs would be the cats ass. i was also once taugh that a very very tightly rolled up Newspaper or magazine becomes a fairly effective baton
Posted By: rost495 Re: Other than a handgun? - 03/24/21
Its all in the head. Regardless of the weapon. Its a mindset.

Wife carries a handgun and extra ammo. Usually an AR in the vehicle. An auto knife and a lock blade knife. And a fire extinguisher in the vehicle.

Fire Extinguishers make very good non lethal.

Me. I have a knife in a pocket with a flashlight. And some type of handgun or long gun.

Don't carry other things because they weigh. And take up room. Though there is always a good fire extinguisher in the vehicles.

I want something thats going to for sure end a conflict, not possibly. Just my way I suppose.
Posted By: wabigoon Re: Other than a handgun? - 03/24/21
Those long Maglights could make a good club.
Posted By: memtb Re: Other than a handgun? - 03/24/21
An “extremely” bright flashlight, many are smaller than a half smoked cigar! A momentarily blinded assailant, gives you and opportunity for other measures! memtb
Posted By: EthanEdwards Re: Other than a handgun? - 03/24/21
Originally Posted by wabigoon
Those long Maglights could make a good club.
They ought to be good for something, because the older ones damned sure didn't light much up.
Posted By: Tide_Change Re: Other than a handgun? - 03/24/21
Originally Posted by muleshoe
Common sense.


Agreed - along with situational awareness. That can often prevent the need to actually deploy any of the physical devices mentioned above.

Sure wish I could teach those skillz to my family. They always poke fun at me when I sit with my back to a wall in any kind of a public venue.
Posted By: bruinruin Re: Other than a handgun? - 03/24/21
If I'm dressed, this is with me. Assisted opening and kept sharp.

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Posted By: bruinruin Re: Other than a handgun? - 03/24/21
Originally Posted by Tide_Change
Originally Posted by muleshoe
Common sense.


Agreed - along with situational awareness. That can often prevent the need to actually deploy any of the physical devices mentioned above.

Sure wish I could teach those skillz to my family. They always poke fun at me when I sit with my back to a wall in any kind of a public venue.


My family knows that whichever restaurant table we are seated at, I'm taking the chair facing the door or the majority of the room.
Posted By: gregintenn Re: Other than a handgun? - 03/24/21
Situational awareness and avoidance are two important tools in my toolbox.
Posted By: kaboku68 Re: Other than a handgun? - 03/24/21
Go here.


https://www.facebook.com/Uncle-Pimpys-Axe-Palace-97213408636/
Posted By: Jim_Conrad Re: Other than a handgun? - 03/24/21
Originally Posted by ironbender
Originally Posted by Oldman3
Broken axe handle

Nothing like a nice piece of hickory.


Okay Preacher......
Posted By: jackmountain Re: Other than a handgun? - 03/24/21
My wife. I pity anyone that runs afoul of her. She scares the hell out of me.
Posted By: ironbender Re: Other than a handgun? - 03/24/21
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Originally Posted by ironbender
Originally Posted by Oldman3
Broken axe handle

Nothing like a nice piece of hickory.


Okay Preacher......

Thanks, Jim. Didn’t want to have to ‘splain it or go find the video!
Nobody lives in the arid West? That trusty Pony Featherweight 0 size irrigating shovel, kept sharpened for cutting blue grass sod is a formidable defensive weapon.

Sometimes known to be used offensively during water disputes.

I understand that back in the early days of the iron age, European peasants often carried a quarterstaff with which to fend off aggressive beggars and highwaymen.

If Pelosi and Biden have their way, we will not even be allowed to carry a wooden stave. Those methheads, tweakers, and vermin crawling out of the tenements have as much right to what we have earned as we do. Don't they?
Posted By: wabigoon Re: Other than a handgun? - 03/24/21
Yup, I head a story about a tiling spade.
Posted By: Esox357 Re: Other than a handgun? - 03/24/21
A knife is always handy
Posted By: ironbender Re: Other than a handgun? - 03/24/21
T-ball bat.

Right length, weight, speed, has a stop on the end of the handle, and is not a weapon. 😉
Posted By: kaywoodie Re: Other than a handgun? - 03/24/21
Bowie knife
Posted By: wabigoon Re: Other than a handgun? - 03/24/21
A short iron pipe could work.

Thing is, not let what every used against you!

The element of surprise is all important.
Posted By: renegade50 Re: Other than a handgun? - 03/24/21
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Posted By: CrowRifle Re: Other than a handgun? - 03/24/21
Dat's cool.
Posted By: Jim_Conrad Re: Other than a handgun? - 03/24/21
Originally Posted by kaywoodie
Bowie knife


Did he carry such a knife?
Posted By: wabigoon Re: Other than a handgun? - 03/24/21
Originally Posted by renegade50
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Where did I put that Acme catalog? laugh
Posted By: GRIZZ Re: Other than a handgun? - 03/24/21
Gun
Posted By: GRIZZ Re: Other than a handgun? - 03/24/21
Gun... Why fuqk around.
Posted By: huntsman22 Re: Other than a handgun? - 03/24/21
pass the pitchfork.....

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Posted By: GRIZZ Re: Other than a handgun? - 03/24/21
Originally Posted by huntsman22
pass the pitchfork.....

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Now how does that happen...
Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
Originally Posted by wabigoon
Those long Maglights could make a good club.
They ought to be good for something, because the older ones damned sure didn't light much up.

You can buy LED bulbs for them. Very bright.
Originally Posted by ironbender
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Originally Posted by ironbender
Originally Posted by Oldman3
Broken axe handle

Nothing like a nice piece of hickory.


Okay Preacher......

Thanks, Jim. Didn’t want to have to ‘splain it or go find the video!

I assumed everyone knew the reference.
My friends mom was a former trucker..
2 to 2-1/2 feet of aluminum core telephone cable works

The 1-1/2" diameter stuff
Originally Posted by GRIZZ
Originally Posted by huntsman22
pass the pitchfork.....

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Now how does that happen...

Getting caught with the farmer's daughter of course...
Posted By: EthanEdwards Re: Other than a handgun? - 03/24/21
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
Originally Posted by wabigoon
Those long Maglights could make a good club.
They ought to be good for something, because the older ones damned sure didn't light much up.

You can buy LED bulbs for them. Very bright.
My 3 D cell has been upgraded thusly, still duller than hell. They ARE formidable weapons though. Almost to the point of carrying a real light and the Maglight just as a knocker.
Posted By: kaywoodie Re: Other than a handgun? - 03/24/21
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Originally Posted by kaywoodie
Bowie knife


Did he carry such a knife?


They both did
Posted By: wabigoon Re: Other than a handgun? - 03/24/21
There is a time when, "Discretion is the better part of valor".
Posted By: MM879 Re: Other than a handgun? - 03/24/21
Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
Originally Posted by wabigoon
Those long Maglights could make a good club.
They ought to be good for something, because the older ones damned sure didn't light much up.

You can buy LED bulbs for them. Very bright.
My 3 D cell has been upgraded thusly, still duller than hell. They ARE formidable weapons though. Almost to the point of carrying a real light and the Maglight just as a knocker.

Is it the Malice Green anodized red memorial flashlight?
Posted By: lvmiker Re: Other than a handgun? - 03/24/21
Anyone who is not dedicated to training and always carrying a handgun is fooling themselves. A stout walking stick is OK for airports and courthouses.


mike r
Posted By: stxhunter Re: Other than a handgun? - 03/24/21
Originally Posted by wabigoon
Those long Maglights could make a good club.

got 19 staples in my head from one, it just pissed me off more.
Posted By: bruinruin Re: Other than a handgun? - 03/24/21
Originally Posted by stxhunter
Originally Posted by wabigoon
Those long Maglights could make a good club.

got 19 staples in my head from one, it just pissed me off more.

I put a car hit button buck down with 2 swats to the head from a 4D cell Maglite. Made my swing so that I brought the edge of the but cap down on the thin spot on top of his skull.
Posted By: JeffA Re: Other than a handgun? - 03/24/21
Originally Posted by stxhunter
Originally Posted by wabigoon
Those long Maglights could make a good club.

got 19 staples in my head from one, it just pissed me off more.



I didn't know they had a model that doubled as a stapler.
Posted By: P_Weed Re: Other than a handgun? - 03/24/21
A wing and a prayer - in that order.
Posted By: cra1948 Re: Other than a handgun? - 03/24/21
Surprised we haven’t seen mention of the good old tire iron.
Can’t get that pitch fork weapon out of my head. Bet that hurt!
Posted By: Whelenman Re: Other than a handgun? - 03/24/21
Louisville slugger!!!!!!
Posted By: bruinruin Re: Other than a handgun? - 03/24/21
Originally Posted by Quartermaster
Can’t get that pitch fork weapon out of my head. Bet that hurt!

It reminds me of Fork In Nose Boy.

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Posted By: ingwe Re: Other than a handgun? - 03/24/21
I don't see where anyone mentioned a good short barreled pump shotgun "other than a handgun"...
Posted By: Beaver10 Re: Other than a handgun? - 03/24/21
Situational awareness.

Hands.

Side arm.

Spray in the vehicles.

Deep desire to survive.

🦫
Posted By: EthanEdwards Re: Other than a handgun? - 03/24/21
Originally Posted by MM879
Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
Originally Posted by wabigoon
Those long Maglights could make a good club.
They ought to be good for something, because the older ones damned sure didn't light much up.

You can buy LED bulbs for them. Very bright.
My 3 D cell has been upgraded thusly, still duller than hell. They ARE formidable weapons though. Almost to the point of carrying a real light and the Maglight just as a knocker.

Is it the Malice Green anodized red memorial flashlight?
No. I've never seen nor heard of that light, but I'm not a big Maglight fan. Mine is shiny black and probably thirty years old. Upgraded maybe fifteen years ago with an LED bulb. I think I've got a 2 D cell one the same color and an aluminum colored 2 C cell. Any of the three could be used for CQB. None of them are worth a shixt for illumination.
Posted By: fishnpbr Re: Other than a handgun? - 03/24/21
For decades accessible in both my house and truck are PR 24's. I've had them since my days as an MP in the 70's and 80's. I was an instructors in there use for a number of years. They are an effective tool. Not sure of their legality anymore in the vehicle but could care less.
Posted By: Rickshaw Re: Other than a handgun? - 03/24/21
Uhhh.....ninja star?
Posted By: hookeye Re: Other than a handgun? - 03/24/21
A second gun and or a knife?
Posted By: WYcoyote Re: Other than a handgun? - 03/24/21
Bear Spray.
Originally Posted by JeffA
Originally Posted by stxhunter
Originally Posted by wabigoon
Those long Maglights could make a good club.

got 19 staples in my head from one, it just pissed me off more.



I didn't know they had a model that doubled as a stapler.

ROFLMAO!
Posted By: GRIZZ Re: Other than a handgun? - 03/24/21
Ran into a couple of Border Patrol Agents whilst hunting coyotes on night here in So Cal. They asked me if I "Seen any tonks?" I says what the fuqk is a tonk? They replied "Illegals, tonk is the sound of our Mag Lights when they come into contact with their heads"...
Posted By: JeffA Re: Other than a handgun? - 03/24/21
While browsing the pages of https://murderpedia.org/ I've taken notice that the more interesting, cooler mass murderers weapon of choice seems to often be a hammer or screwdriver.
Posted By: RJY66 Re: Other than a handgun? - 03/24/21
The old Moe Howard from the Three Stooges eye gouge. Pick out two! laugh
Posted By: renegade50 Re: Other than a handgun? - 03/24/21
Well!!!
I'm gonna go get a shotgun!!!

Other than that problem above solved with Joeys sage advice.

Interviewers Voice???
WTF?????
LMFAO!!!
Posted By: P_Weed Re: Other than a handgun? - 03/24/21
Originally Posted by Quartermaster
Can’t get that pitch fork weapon out of my head. Bet that hurt!

- Butt that hurt!
Posted By: ENorton Re: Other than a handgun? - 03/24/21
In Wyoming everyone has at least 2 dogs with them at all times, plus long handle implements and those things that go bang.
Posted By: Mike_S Re: Other than a handgun? - 03/24/21
Originally Posted by ingwe
I don't see where anyone mentioned a good short barreled pump shotgun "other than a handgun"...



Winner^^
Posted By: WAM Re: Other than a handgun? - 03/24/21
Originally Posted by stxhunter
Originally Posted by wabigoon
Those long Maglights could make a good club.

got 19 staples in my head from one, it just pissed me off more.

Obviously not administered correctly with gusto.

The department banned us from carrying 3-cell or any Kel-Lites after a few “tonks “ went to the ER. It was ok to carry a Maglight as long as it was a 2-cell. Go figure that wisdom....
Posted By: 673 Re: Other than a handgun? - 03/24/21
Originally Posted by WAM
Originally Posted by stxhunter
Originally Posted by wabigoon
Those long Maglights could make a good club.

got 19 staples in my head from one, it just pissed me off more.

Obviously not administered correctly with gusto.

The department banned us from carrying 3-cell or any Kel-Lites after a few “tonks “ went to the ER. It was ok to carry a Maglight as long as it was a 2-cell. Go figure that wisdom....

Had a Mountie smash 2 beers (bottles) off the back of a car with one swipe with a Maglite, lol.
Posted By: wabigoon Re: Other than a handgun? - 03/24/21
Originally Posted by stxhunter
Originally Posted by wabigoon
Those long Maglights could make a good club.

got 19 staples in my head from one, it just pissed me off more.



Note to self, self, never get into a fight with Roger. laugh
Posted By: johnw Re: Other than a handgun? - 03/25/21
I keep my wife handy

Meaner than a professional rattlesnake...
Posted By: CashisKing Re: Other than a handgun? - 03/25/21
A handgun is a wonderful thing to carry.

A second handgun is also useful sometimes as well as a third in your boot, a couple of knives... a heavy cable in your belt loops... as well as matches and a gallon of diesel... and a jug of molasses as a appetizer for the bears.

Be prepared, I was not a Boy Scout but I did stay at a Motel 6 last night
Big F’ing Stick
Originally Posted by wabigoon
Originally Posted by stxhunter
Originally Posted by wabigoon
Those long Maglights could make a good club.

got 19 staples in my head from one, it just pissed me off more.



Note to self, self, never get into a fight with Roger. laugh

You are kinda slow this morning
Posted By: local_dirt Re: Other than a handgun? - 03/25/21
Originally Posted by WAM
Originally Posted by stxhunter
Originally Posted by wabigoon
Those long Maglights could make a good club.

got 19 staples in my head from one, it just pissed me off more.

Obviously not administered correctly with gusto.

The department banned us from carrying 3-cell or any Kel-Lites after a few “tonks “ went to the ER. It was ok to carry a Maglight as long as it was a 2-cell. Go figure that wisdom....





So you hit em twice?
Posted By: 673 Re: Other than a handgun? - 03/25/21
Originally Posted by ingwe
I don't see where anyone mentioned a good short barreled pump shotgun "other than a handgun"...

I forgot about....I always have the 870 handy under the bed.

I also always have a rifle in the truck when I am at work, which is everyday. It is mostly for if I see a Wolf that should get shot, or maybe I have a breakdown and have to walk out.

Out in the bush around here you never know who you are going to run into, could be just someone on dope or thieves on dope, which happened several years ago. The thieves are always armed.
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