How the hell do you find it?

Try the whorehouse Sam.

Duh....

1-800-SAMARITANS

Use your left hand it feels like someone else is doing it.

John Wayne Gacy used to pick up run-a-ways down at the bus station.

Standing here watching RHWONJ.
(with the 'boss')


Half wasted on a variety pack of Claws and Coors Light.




5-6 cows wanted to kill me today.



Reflecting on age and finding a helper.


20 something Swedish chick on a farm work program?

I hear that there are lots of people on the southern border.

What are you willing to pay? We all need to keep current...

Do you, or are you willing to learn t speak spanish?

Plenty of illegals heading your way.

I have seriously wondered about trying to figure that out.


Any decent local already has a good job.

About 200k helpers just crossed the Rio Grand.

Oh wait, they are all staying in free hotel rooms waiting on welfare checks.



They can't help at the local restaurants here, they are running shorter hours and fewer days to make up for staff shortages. All the builders are begging for help along with suppliers. But then again rent and housing are sky high and they are trying to pay the same wages. When a one bedroom apartment is $1100 a month $12 and hour won't cut it.

I give up on it. MMMuthafugers can’t stay off their cell phone worrying about schit that’s just way more important than doing a job their gettin paid for.

I knew this vegetable grower that used to bring over all these eastern block girls to work on the farm. The first time I was there, I thought he was some sort of cult leader. There were mostly voluptuous young women everywhere. He finally married one of them.

It’s a common problem these days.

Especially if they need to be entrusted with $100K worth of equipment.

A rancher friend of mine south of Chinook hires legal Mexican ranch hands every season. He's impressed with their honesty, work-ethic, and basic human decency.

Just remember if you go the newly arrived route:

You're not just hiring the dude that's going to work for you. Be aware of who and what you are brining into your town.

Subject A who is a good worker, blah blah blah, also brings with him his brothers, uncles, cousins, sisters (and attendant husbands and their families), aunts, nephews, and nieces (and attendant husbands and families).

The dude you hire might be legit badass worker, no complaints. Wish we had a million more just like him. But the familial baggage will include more crime, pain, and suffering than it's worth. This ain't 30 years ago with Jose sending money back home to Maria to buy clothes to Juanito and Maricela.

Sounds like he has a few that want to work.

Is that a bad thing Sam?

If they are here on a work visa, most especially if they've been doing it awhile that's a very very common sentiment.

LOL

Good point. It’s telling on the rest, that want a free ride. At least a work visa is legal. I bet they’re pissed about the illegal route.

Ever think of opening your ranch up as a working dude ranch? Get all the nancy boys and wanna be tough chicks out there with real jobs to do.

All the young, wannabe he-men - won't work, and don't want to.
Between .gov hand-outs and doting parents - they don't need to work. Just go sire (note - not "father) more kids.
Go by the local high schools, and you'll see more new trucks and Harleys than at ANY workplace!

Sam I might just drive up there to help and drink beer with you and Jim.

SamO,

Pick a couple of States that would likely have a higher amount of cowboys with heavy equipment experience.

Put ads in Craigslist for ranch help. Might get some good hits from people wanting to move West.

🦫

Gentlemen, just future worries/thinking on my part.

Catch you later.

Combine these two and...


Hire a camera crew, editor, and social media manager

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#SamOlsonSuperStar

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Problem solved.

Sam don’t need help drinking the beer!

Contact the producers of reality shows before going kingston's route.

Use their money, and get the White Claw folks to sponsor the show.

And while you're at it, put in word that they bring in some of those buxom Eastern European gals too.

That's all I'd ask in pay.

Drunk ranch hands that don’t know WTF they’re doing are not in short supply.

LOL

We had to look for ways to lessen our need for extra help.

Eat the inventory?

😬🦫

https://www.tsln.com/news/symbiosis-of-need/

Never said I knew what I was doing, but am a quick study.

You could hire Jim's boys. I'm sure they could step right in.

Until son Jake got out of college this farm was in a bad spot.

LOL

I can only imagine.

White Claw's???????

And Coors Light?

Sam, I don't know why I didn't think of this last night, but you might try www.farmersonly.com.

Who's that guy?

Mostly Nicaraguans around here.

I know there was an apiary south of Chinook somewhere that brought in help w/ visas. They weren't Mexican, but can't remember where they hailed from. I don't remember hearing any trouble from them. The carnies however....

'The help you nowadays."

Nicaragua hefe.

Sam, You stated consideration of future needs.

Is it too late to adopt?

Surely there's an orphanage somewhere with a couple husky 10 to 12 year old lads needing a home.

Orrrrrr perhaps 19 year old Eastern European lasses needing a new Daddy. A man should keep his options open. I mean, you didn't really need all that stuff you have collected over the years, did you?

Hmm, I might stay up a while and see the answer to this.

Around here, if you want to hire, you better have housing nailed down, or they’ll have to stay in a travel trailer behind the barn which for some reason seems to be objectionable to the womenfolk.......

Not a house for sale or rent for twenty miles in any direction, except for a couple of half million$ McMansions.

I got a friend from Michigan. He worked on trucks and such in the Bakken for 3-4 years. He moved back to Michigan, but hates it. He wants to come back to ND or Montana and work on a farm/trucking.

The biggest obstacle for him is housing, 3 kids....

There was man with a plan

Finding Help:
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I walked into a liquor store today and a man working there asked me, "Do you need help?"

I said , "Yes, but I'm here to get whisky instead."

aaahhhh viejo, you are way ahead of me.

Argentine economy is running just under 50% inflation rate at the moment, bet you could round up some goucho's on visas that would love to come to MT. and earn some American dollars.

What where's the gauchoettes? You again equal opportunity hiring? Or you got no hiring ratio to maintain? That eastern european buxom.lass idea is a no brainers deal compared to that.

I work at one of the best factory jobs in our county.
In 1998 when I went through th e hiring process, they started with 50
applications, sent 20+ for a standardized industrial test, and then
interviewed 15. 8 or 9 got hired. Every single one hired got in due
to lobbying by an internal advocate.


We need 2 new hires now.

The boss called the state employment agency to send over resumes,
They had 3.
He contacted them, and got return calls from 2.

The local paper mill is closing by the end of this month, 293 people.
30 miles from our door, some drive past us to get there.
And yet none of them want a job?

Of course not.
$800/week for up to 2 years to sit at home.

That was a problem 12 yrs ago. These smart phones screwed everybody up, especially young folk.

This is my farm helper. She has a sister looking for a job. https://youtu.be/Ly8FPYJ3aiY

If you want good help you've got to plan ahead, it's a long and expensive process with years of training. 9 month waiting period on each new worker. 7-8 years of training with smaller jobs. About 2-3 more years added to that for beginning machinery. After a couple of years of the beginner machinery apprenticeship, they're usually good to go on all equipment.....though they will still occasionally catch a post, especially when trailers are attached.

If nothing else, after the years of training at your side, your sons and daughters will have an extensive understanding of the application and use of foul language......

Jury duty this week regarding a guy who met a girl on Facebook and brought meth to party.( LE Facebook)
One of the jurors a 20ish ranch hand when asked if he would be fair said no. He said his generation has been destroyed by meth, no one wants to work, and people just want to do drugs.
He was excused.

Were you on the internet 12 hours a day then too ?

Or was them CB days ?

LOL

Then they go to Ag school, see that some careers lead to incomes greater than the equal of a 7-11 employee, get a degree in Ag Chemistry, and go to work for a fertilizer company in Richmond CA.

wabi's a bit older'n me.

He prolly did the smoke signal thing.

We had tin cans and string.

Mister "slumlord', seems to get his jolly's bad mouthing me.

Thank you all for the great replies.


A serious issue but we can joke.

Good luck with it Sam. Just good luck.

Thank you Richard.


Knock on wood we've had really good luck and easy calving so far.


Weather is too nice though, getting really dry. Lots of fires already.



Prayers answered yesterday when Duck flew in on a newish Bombardier.

Local runway is a little short so got to watch a pretty sweet trick landing.

Sam, a few thoughts.

You have an eye for the Lord's natural beauty in everyday life.

Those look like combine rasp bars on the gate posts?

You have a knack for making work look like fun.

Sam good luck, not many want to work now a days

Hope the calving has been going good Sam. Sure been nice weather. Next week sounds crappy here. Hope we get some much needed moisture. Pastures are going to be in bad shape without moisture.

Sam, we see some ads in our local paper by a couple of National (maybe Western? ) recruiters for farm labor, dairy and ranch help. Wonder if that's a possible source for you folks? Next time I see an ad I'll check the name.

Pay more.

Homemade tub.


Nice.

Can't find anyone who wants $12-15/hr and benefits with ability to grow.

I guess everyone is happy with their new welfare checks.

I need to check out of this society.

No offense but working for a farmer or rancher is pretty much a dead-end deal for the non-family employee, from what I see in these parts.

Sometimes housing is included and free beef, but retirement, medical, dental, eye, vacation, sick time aren't part of the deal. Usually a monthly paycheck that stays the same no matter the amount of hours. You just just don't see anybody in these parts doing well working for a farmer/rancher. Those that do may well enjoy it and like the lifestyle, but you can't ever get ahead in life when compared to other jobs.

LOL, easy shot!

There are people who will work cheap if they can ride a horse, work cattle, and drag a gooseneck trailer around. The smell of cows, horses, mud, and diesel must be addictive.

Gov “help” was providing $600 extra a week which made unemployment better than original jobs. People preferred unemployment to work.

Sad but true. Cattle are a passion, I've never worked so hard for so little.

Check with the local FFA. Sign up on the peg board at the co-op
Hell we have magnetic signs on all the trucks that say “now hiring”.

9/10 last less than two weeks.

I know several very capable young men that would workout excellent. I think they want $80 an hour as a starting wage.

Harder than finding is, keeping.

If I could clone myself I would send him out, no cost. But I am enjoying retirement. Grew up on a farm, always worked PT on a farm through the years.

Sad but true.

I'll be serious for a minute..... I know there are 2 main ways it's done in my local. Most of this is for farmers who raise crops, cattle, hay, and usually have several chicken houses....almost all of them here do all of these in combination. The chicken houses provide excellent fertilizer for the hay, crop, and grazing land. They'll supplement it as needed after soil testing but it's a $ saver for them. They also sell/spread it for other folks and make $ that way.

1. Bring in "undocumented immigrant" workers. I don't know if they bring them in or find some locally. Perhaps some of them are "documented", I'm not sure. Provide housing for them...I'll make mention of something related to this below. I don't know what the pay rate is.

2. Use local folks that aren't going to work in any other setting. Usually pretty rough. Same deal as above, provide housing and payment....again, no idea of the rate.

About the housing....there is a rental assistance program from the USDA Rural Development department. The guy who rented some of our land for crops told me about this. He passed away a while back and his grandson runs it now. Anyhow, he set up a row of run down trailers and built several small/cheap houses and houses his workers and their families in them. .gov sends him a check for housing for each of them every month. He said it's the best thing he's ever done.....check from .gov every month and no hassle of collecting from renters. The housing has to pass certain standards but it can't be much as he did it (grandson doing it now) with rough looking trailers. They do this for the families that work for them as well as other low income families.

In all of these cases, sons, daughters, grandsons, etc of the farmer are working as well so family is a big part of the labor/help.

Bring in help from south of the border.

Temporary help....guest workers.

You are required to advertise the job with the Job Service however.

If you require a random drug test, you will receive no local or American applicants.

Only problem is that you must submit to a random drug test once in a while.

One of the reasons I did hardly any work this past year, only had my son helping, and now with him working full time with his online jobs can't find anyone.

I know the guy that ran a ranch up in tom miner a few years back.....he brought in Peruvians....the ones I met was nice and he said hard workers....bob

Tried for five years to hire a young guy here to work with me. Would pay him better than any of the factories in town to start, and more as he learned. Once he got to where he could do whatever he got sent to do and I didn't have to go fix it, I was willing to hand him the business. Tools, customers, all of it. No takers. They all want to make a living being chair pilots. Working with your hands is viewed as second class work, for those who can’t do any “better”. Good luck hiring anyone reliable for the dirty but necessary jobs. Once we’re gone, the fuggers can starve out in the open, I guess.

Working for Dan Halen after he took over Johns Mansville will make any other job you get seem easy.

I have worked on farms/agricultural/Orchards etc quite abit.
When the economy would take a down turn or I was down because of seasonal influence, I would head to the agricultural sector for work, I don't draw unemployment or any of that. I was way further ahead to work for less and ride out tough times, and I also liked working on the land.

The east indians own all the agricultural farms here now, they are going to run out of Mexicans next because they dont want to work for them, they treat the workers poorly, hold back their pay, make them live in poor conditions.
I was just told yesterday the Mexicans aren't coming back to the nearby farm this year.

I never saw a Mexican or foreign worker until about 15 years ago, ever, never needed them and if policy was changed we wouldn't need them now.

Our Social programs are too generous and much of the youth are cracked out and lazy.

The bigshot, high steppers around here tend to have no livestock

The seem to have a relative that will use time off work to drive truck, or run a grain cart.

True. There are a few cowboys around here that seem to keep sticking it out, but are prone to move on to a different ranch every few years. Being single seems to be best for the trade.

Some of the bigger farmers in these parts are starting to turn non-family employment into a partially compensated job though. My buddy is a diesel mechanic and he quit his diesel shop job to go to work for a farmer/rancher. He loved it for about 5 years. In the end though, having 4 kids and a stay at home wife he couldn't swing the insurance, retirement, etc and went back to work in a diesel shop.

You might need help but if you hire some it will take the profit right out of your operation. Sorry but that's the state of the family farm / ranch operation and it won't get any better under the Democrats. Mb

best way to get help is to breed them , Sam


problem is it would take around 15 years from now till they can get much done.........

We’ve seen the Eastern European kids up here working fast food joints, gas stations etc.

What I’ve seen they’ve impressed me, hard working polite kids. Might be worth looking into. Wish I had a good answer for you Sam, as always wish you the best.

Both of my boys have good payin jobs w bennies, being able to pass a drug test, knowing the value of showing up & hard work not being a foreign subject to them probably helped. 🤷🏻‍♂️


I did much wrong raising my kids, I was a fire breathing, no nonsense, yelling & cussing machine too much of the time, but as they got older, more capable & learned when we had work to do it was time to get to work, we’d have fun busting each other’s balls over who worked the hardest or was most capable. But at least they’d been introduced to what work should look like.

There’s nada to replace the energy of youth though. We used to get up cows on my grandads place to move them a couple of miles to different pasture. No four wheelers, no horse as mine was kept on my dads farm. I could wheel back on foot running to get to the other side of the small herd to push a stray back into the herd, then wheel back to the side I was supposed to be working. I made up for a fair amount of dumb, w incredible energy.

Some of the best days of my life were spent helping my grandad. He remains as one of the best men I’ve ever known.

My experience around non-family ranch hands is cyclic.

It goes something like this:

1.) I need work.

2.) This guy lets me work.

3.) He likes me more than anybody else. I bet I've hit the jackpot here.

4.) Schit. He isn't going to give me half of everything.

5.) Fugk this guy.

6.) I quit.

7.) I realize now that I can't do anything else. (back to step one)

Great replies.

I thank you all.