50 Cal goes BOOM - 04/29/21
Scary
Re: 50 Cal goes BOOM - 04/29/21
Linky no worky
Re: 50 Cal goes BOOM - 04/29/21
fixxxed
Re: 50 Cal goes BOOM - 04/29/21
HOLY SHEIT . . . . . . Dude is lucky it didn't kill him.
Re: 50 Cal goes BOOM - 04/29/21
It sure could have turned out worse. Thank the Lord it didn't.
Re: 50 Cal goes BOOM - 04/29/21
Daaang, he's pretty lucky. One thing about messing with the 50 BMG, it won't hurt you, it will kill you.
Re: 50 Cal goes BOOM - 04/29/21
That's Ugleeeee....
Re: 50 Cal goes BOOM - 04/29/21
Scary indeed ! Thank God he's still alive. Came awful close to not making it.
Re: 50 Cal goes BOOM - 04/29/21
Well, that's one way to take your cap off.
Re: 50 Cal goes BOOM - 04/29/21
God Bless him. I do think there were clues that could've put up a red flag. Increasing muzzle blast and erratic accuracy for a couple. I do know from personal experience ammunition that is old and has been jostled around especially if heated, like carried on a dashboard for a while, can degrade the powder and change burning characteristics. It happened to friend of mine with factory 6mm Remington ammo. He did everything right and thanks to his dad and his exceptional health they managed to cheat death. That video is flinch worthy.
Re: 50 Cal goes BOOM - 04/29/21
Very lucky, amazing he's still with us.
Re: 50 Cal goes BOOM - 04/29/21
Looks like a Serbu RN50, didn’t listen to the audio. Hell would freeze before I’d shoot a .50 BMG round in a break action hammer gun with a threaded breech cap.
Re: 50 Cal goes BOOM - 04/29/21
That rifle has ZERO gas handling features!
Re: 50 Cal goes BOOM - 04/29/21
Originally Posted by DigitalDan
Looks like a Serbu RN50, didn’t listen to the audio. Hell would freeze before I’d shoot a .50 BMG round in a break action hammer gun with a threaded breech cap.
Re: 50 Cal goes BOOM - 04/29/21
Glad he survived. And that his dad was there.
Re: 50 Cal goes BOOM - 04/29/21
He's very lucky to have lived through that.
Re: 50 Cal goes BOOM - 04/29/21
That is one lucky dude.
Re: 50 Cal goes BOOM - 04/29/21
Originally Posted by Tyrone
Originally Posted by DigitalDan
Looks like a Serbu RN50, didn’t listen to the audio. Hell would freeze before I’d shoot a .50 BMG round in a break action hammer gun with a threaded breech cap.
The gun maker said that only took 85K PSI.
85K isn't really all that much pressure....in a real action.....and that's all it took to about kill this guy.
Re: 50 Cal goes BOOM - 04/29/21
SAAMI pressure proof loads in 30/06 are about 84kPSI so maybe it wasn't that unreasonable - maybe Serbu tested to the same?
Re: 50 Cal goes BOOM - 04/29/21
Sounds like a common carotid artery injury, not a jugular vein laceration. Very fortunate that he had training and his dad acted quickly. Best way to control arterial bleeding from penetrating wounds when a tourniquet can’t be applied is direct digital acclusion through the entrance hole. Good approach to remember.
Re: 50 Cal goes BOOM - 04/29/21
He credits God and Vanderbilt, good for him.
Glad he was with his dad and made quick decisions.
Glad he was with his dad and made quick decisions.
Re: 50 Cal goes BOOM - 04/29/21
It is hard to belive that the action wasn't tested to at least twice the maximun expected pressure.
Re: 50 Cal goes BOOM - 04/30/21
That’s a different design than any other 50 on the market. I won’t knock it without knowing more, but threads vs locking lugs has me wondering. Could have have just been bad ammo.
With some hot mil ammo I’ve had to tap the bolt back on my SHTF 50, it has three large bolt lugs.
With some hot mil ammo I’ve had to tap the bolt back on my SHTF 50, it has three large bolt lugs.
Re: 50 Cal goes BOOM - 04/30/21
Originally Posted by MM879
It is hard to belive that the action wasn't tested to at least twice the maximun expected pressure.
Is this a requirement? SAAMI or otherwise? Then again we don't know what the actual pressure was that blew it up.
Re: 50 Cal goes BOOM - 04/30/21
So what happened to the fire hydrant?
Re: 50 Cal goes BOOM - 04/30/21
Originally Posted by Tyrone
Originally Posted by DigitalDan
Looks like a Serbu RN50, didn’t listen to the audio. Hell would freeze before I’d shoot a .50 BMG round in a break action hammer gun with a threaded breech cap.
Me too.
Re: 50 Cal goes BOOM - 04/30/21
Originally Posted by Stormin_Norman
That’s a different design than any other 50 on the market. I won’t knock it without knowing more, but threads vs locking lugs has me wondering. Could have have just been bad ammo.
With some hot mil ammo I’ve had to tap the bolt back on my SHTF 50, it has three large bolt lugs.
With some hot mil ammo I’ve had to tap the bolt back on my SHTF 50, it has three large bolt lugs.
Comes down to cross sectional area and strength of the metal. Either way, failure of thread or lugs leads to something coming backwards towards the shooter.
Re: 50 Cal goes BOOM - 04/30/21
Sure glad Scott survived, he gave credit where credit was due
Re: 50 Cal goes BOOM - 04/30/21
Originally Posted by mauserand9mm
Originally Posted by MM879
It is hard to belive that the action wasn't tested to at least twice the maximun expected pressure.
Is this a requirement? SAAMI or otherwise? Then again we don't know what the actual pressure was that blew it up.
No, SAAMI is only +30% for a proof mark. I was thinking DFMEA requirements.
Re: 50 Cal goes BOOM - 04/30/21
The shooter gives a pretty detailed description of the explosion and his injuries around the 8 minute mark.
WOW, dude be lucky to be alive.
WOW, dude be lucky to be alive.
Re: 50 Cal goes BOOM - 04/30/21
That's a powerful story.
I will continue with that channel.
His life was saved. I pray that someone will have the opportunity to lead him to Christ and make sure that he has a home in heaven. That was close.
I will continue with that channel.
His life was saved. I pray that someone will have the opportunity to lead him to Christ and make sure that he has a home in heaven. That was close.
Re: 50 Cal goes BOOM - 04/30/21
He is lucky to be alive for sure. Quick thinking, training, and having his dad there saved his life. The only 50cal I've fired was in the Army. Now there is no way in hell you would get me behind one of these things, fugg that!!
I'm glad it turned out ok for him 🙏
I'm glad it turned out ok for him 🙏
Re: 50 Cal goes BOOM - 04/30/21
Guy was kilt here a few months back here in So Cal WWII vintage ammo and from what I understand a modified WWII vintage rifle. This shooter had the gun benched and the bolt went through his chest and was found roughly 60 feet behind him.
The shooter was allegedly a "Gunsmith"
The shooter was allegedly a "Gunsmith"
Re: 50 Cal goes BOOM - 04/30/21
There is a reason to reload your own, or use reliable factory loads. And a little "common sense".
File this under dumfuckery....
File this under dumfuckery....
Re: 50 Cal goes BOOM - 04/30/21
Lucky guy. The old finger in the hole on the artery trick.
My friend was at a gun show in Denver in about 2010 when a kid picked up a 40 S&W off a table and fired it into his friends chest. My friend was near by and he used to teach surg tech at a school in Utah. He said blood was pouring out so he stuck his finger in the hole and could feel it pumping from a large artery. He moved his finger to the side towards the heart and pressed it closed.
He said the ambulance took what seemed like for ever and the EMTs told him to remove his finger and move away so they could do their assessment. They got ignorant with him when he refused to. He told them here's your assessment, single gunshot wound to the chest, if I remove my finger without clamping this artery he'll be dead in about 60 seconds. They finally gave him a tool they use to clamp umbilical cords so he stuck them in along his finger and clamped the artery and then he left.
I Googled it after he told me the story and one article talked about the unknown man who had saved the boys life by closing off the artery until the ambulance got there.
Sometimes it's the common sense field experience that's good to know. That same friend almost died when the 870 his friend was shooting exploded and half of the bolt that sheared at a 45 degree angle went through my friends chest. Lucky for him the Dr working the ER in Le grande Oregon that day was an old Vietnam War Dr.
Bb
My friend was at a gun show in Denver in about 2010 when a kid picked up a 40 S&W off a table and fired it into his friends chest. My friend was near by and he used to teach surg tech at a school in Utah. He said blood was pouring out so he stuck his finger in the hole and could feel it pumping from a large artery. He moved his finger to the side towards the heart and pressed it closed.
He said the ambulance took what seemed like for ever and the EMTs told him to remove his finger and move away so they could do their assessment. They got ignorant with him when he refused to. He told them here's your assessment, single gunshot wound to the chest, if I remove my finger without clamping this artery he'll be dead in about 60 seconds. They finally gave him a tool they use to clamp umbilical cords so he stuck them in along his finger and clamped the artery and then he left.
I Googled it after he told me the story and one article talked about the unknown man who had saved the boys life by closing off the artery until the ambulance got there.
Sometimes it's the common sense field experience that's good to know. That same friend almost died when the 870 his friend was shooting exploded and half of the bolt that sheared at a 45 degree angle went through my friends chest. Lucky for him the Dr working the ER in Le grande Oregon that day was an old Vietnam War Dr.
Bb
Re: 50 Cal goes BOOM - 04/30/21
Originally Posted by Burleyboy
Lucky guy. The old finger in the hole on the artery trick.
My friend was at a gun show in Denver in about 2010 when a kid picked up a 40 S&W off a table and fired it into his friends chest. My friend was near by and he used to teach surg tech at a school in Utah. He said blood was pouring out so he stuck his finger in the hole and could feel it pumping from a large artery. He moved his finger to the side towards the heart and pressed it closed.
He said the ambulance took what seemed like for ever and the EMTs told him to remove his finger and move away so they could do their assessment. They got ignorant with him when he refused to. He told them here's your assessment, single gunshot wound to the chest, if I remove my finger without clamping this artery he'll be dead in about 60 seconds. They finally gave him a tool they use to clamp umbilical cords so he stuck them in along his finger and clamped the artery and then he left.
I Googled it after he told me the story and one article talked about the unknown man who had saved the boys life by closing off the artery until the ambulance got there.
Sometimes it's the common sense field experience that's good to know. That same friend almost died when the 870 his friend was shooting exploded and half of the bolt that sheared at a 45 degree angle went through my friends chest. Lucky for him the Dr working the ER in Le grande Oregon that day was an old Vietnam War Dr.
Bb
My friend was at a gun show in Denver in about 2010 when a kid picked up a 40 S&W off a table and fired it into his friends chest. My friend was near by and he used to teach surg tech at a school in Utah. He said blood was pouring out so he stuck his finger in the hole and could feel it pumping from a large artery. He moved his finger to the side towards the heart and pressed it closed.
He said the ambulance took what seemed like for ever and the EMTs told him to remove his finger and move away so they could do their assessment. They got ignorant with him when he refused to. He told them here's your assessment, single gunshot wound to the chest, if I remove my finger without clamping this artery he'll be dead in about 60 seconds. They finally gave him a tool they use to clamp umbilical cords so he stuck them in along his finger and clamped the artery and then he left.
I Googled it after he told me the story and one article talked about the unknown man who had saved the boys life by closing off the artery until the ambulance got there.
Sometimes it's the common sense field experience that's good to know. That same friend almost died when the 870 his friend was shooting exploded and half of the bolt that sheared at a 45 degree angle went through my friends chest. Lucky for him the Dr working the ER in Le grande Oregon that day was an old Vietnam War Dr.
Bb
What's with the bolts through the chests? First the OP video, Grizz's S. CA , now this.
.It now makes me wonder how common bolt shear is.
Re: 50 Cal goes BOOM - 04/30/21
Originally Posted by Burleyboy
Lucky guy. The old finger in the hole on the artery trick.
My friend was at a gun show in Denver in about 2010 when a kid picked up a 40 S&W off a table and fired it into his friends chest. My friend was near by and he used to teach surg tech at a school in Utah. He said blood was pouring out so he stuck his finger in the hole and could feel it pumping from a large artery. He moved his finger to the side towards the heart and pressed it closed.
He said the ambulance took what seemed like for ever and the EMTs told him to remove his finger and move away so they could do their assessment. They got ignorant with him when he refused to. He told them here's your assessment, single gunshot wound to the chest, if I remove my finger without clamping this artery he'll be dead in about 60 seconds. They finally gave him a tool they use to clamp umbilical cords so he stuck them in along his finger and clamped the artery and then he left.
I Googled it after he told me the story and one article talked about the unknown man who had saved the boys life by closing off the artery until the ambulance got there.
Sometimes it's the common sense field experience that's good to know. That same friend almost died when the 870 his friend was shooting exploded and half of the bolt that sheared at a 45 degree angle went through my friends chest. Lucky for him the Dr working the ER in Le grande Oregon that day was an old Vietnam War Dr.
Bb
My friend was at a gun show in Denver in about 2010 when a kid picked up a 40 S&W off a table and fired it into his friends chest. My friend was near by and he used to teach surg tech at a school in Utah. He said blood was pouring out so he stuck his finger in the hole and could feel it pumping from a large artery. He moved his finger to the side towards the heart and pressed it closed.
He said the ambulance took what seemed like for ever and the EMTs told him to remove his finger and move away so they could do their assessment. They got ignorant with him when he refused to. He told them here's your assessment, single gunshot wound to the chest, if I remove my finger without clamping this artery he'll be dead in about 60 seconds. They finally gave him a tool they use to clamp umbilical cords so he stuck them in along his finger and clamped the artery and then he left.
I Googled it after he told me the story and one article talked about the unknown man who had saved the boys life by closing off the artery until the ambulance got there.
Sometimes it's the common sense field experience that's good to know. That same friend almost died when the 870 his friend was shooting exploded and half of the bolt that sheared at a 45 degree angle went through my friends chest. Lucky for him the Dr working the ER in Le grande Oregon that day was an old Vietnam War Dr.
Bb
One in millions...
Re: 50 Cal goes BOOM - 04/30/21
85kpsi is a proof load.
I suspect the threads sheared off did not have enough engagement.
I would like to see a drawing or sketch and RC hardness of the parts.
I suspect the threads sheared off did not have enough engagement.
I would like to see a drawing or sketch and RC hardness of the parts.
Re: 50 Cal goes BOOM - 04/30/21
Ias,
I have no data, but have never heard of this being a trend even with reloads. Plenty of blown chambers, which can remove portions of near anatomy, but can't remember the last time I heard of a bolt through a chest. However, I believe all three sources.
I think you are correct.
I have no data, but have never heard of this being a trend even with reloads. Plenty of blown chambers, which can remove portions of near anatomy, but can't remember the last time I heard of a bolt through a chest. However, I believe all three sources.
I think you are correct.
Re: 50 Cal goes BOOM - 04/30/21
Lucky guy,, wow!
Re: 50 Cal goes BOOM - 04/30/21
Originally Posted by Clarkm
85kpsi is a proof load.
I suspect the threads sheared off did not have enough engagement.
….
I suspect the threads sheared off did not have enough engagement.
….
From bad machining or bad design?
Re: 50 Cal goes BOOM - 04/30/21
over-powdered...
Re: 50 Cal goes BOOM - 04/30/21
Originally Posted by mauserand9mm
Originally Posted by Clarkm
85kpsi is a proof load.
I suspect the threads sheared off did not have enough engagement.
….
I suspect the threads sheared off did not have enough engagement.
….
From bad machining or bad design?
Bad design.
It looks like a firecracker gun I made in 1965 with a 3/4" water pipe and an end cap.
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Re: 50 Cal goes BOOM - 04/30/21
I watched that, and the dude is lucky to be alive. It's hard to judge the quality and safety of a firearm without being able to handle it, and see for yourself, but, I don't care for the design myself. Apparently he'd shot it a lot, for whatever that's worth. I'd say that it was most likely an ammo problem, which can happen when you're shooting ammo of an unknown quality.
IMO, he paid a price for wanting to be a YouTube personality.
IMO, he paid a price for wanting to be a YouTube personality.
Re: 50 Cal goes BOOM - 04/30/21
that would take all the fun out of shooting for me. who wouldn't be thinking of that next time you squeeze off a high power round?
Re: 50 Cal goes BOOM - 04/30/21
Most guns aren't so poorly designed.
I doubt anything like that has ever happened with a genuine Mauser action.
I doubt anything like that has ever happened with a genuine Mauser action.
Re: 50 Cal goes BOOM - 04/30/21
Originally Posted by Tyrone
Most guns aren't so poorly designed.
I doubt anything like that has ever happened with a genuine Mauser action.
I doubt anything like that has ever happened with a genuine Mauser action.
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In a VZ24 Mauser from 1924 made for 7x57mm, I converted to 7mmRM and fired a round Quickload calls 108k psi.
That caved in the lug abutments and flattened out the lugs. But I lapped it so the bolt would fit again, and shot an antelope with it.
Re: 50 Cal goes BOOM - 04/30/21
I know volume of gas comes into play too, but I don't think you could ever get an AR15 to eject it's bolt out the rear.
Re: 50 Cal goes BOOM - 04/30/21
Originally Posted by rainshot
God Bless him. I do think there were clues that could've put up a red flag. Increasing muzzle blast and erratic accuracy for a couple. I do know from personal experience ammunition that is old and has been jostled around especially if heated, like carried on a dashboard for a while, can degrade the powder and change burning characteristics. It happened to friend of mine with factory 6mm Remington ammo. He did everything right and thanks to his dad and his exceptional health they managed to cheat death. That video is flinch worthy.
This.
69 era 7.62 x51 4 to 1 link.
Tn NG struck some kinda drug deal with the 101 in 93 94 during Billy boys cutbacks.
Stored probably in varying conditions
Ruined alot of m60,s on qual ranges.
Excessive flash outta the muzzle and ejection port 1st clue.
Blowing extractor,s, wired plug ends on gas system, cracking bolt faces, shearing rollers on bolts, receivers bulged.
Ect ect ect
18 MG,s on Bn range.
5 deadlined for depot level repair or to be coded out.
Tore 3 rds down.
Powder had deteriorated to the point it had a cornmeal course flour like consistency.
Showed it to OIC
Word went up chain of command.
Range control, civilan range contact teams, 801st armorer section.
69 era ammo schitt canned back to asp for disposal.
Didnt have a qual range for about 7 months till we got some new LC in.
Re: 50 Cal goes BOOM - 04/30/21
I wonder if previous shots damaged the gun and the last round nuked it.
Or if the Kaboom was 100% from one round.
Or if the Kaboom was 100% from one round.
Re: 50 Cal goes BOOM - 04/30/21
Originally Posted by DigitalDan
Looks like a Serbu RN50, didn’t listen to the audio. Hell would freeze before I’d shoot a .50 BMG round in a break action hammer gun with a threaded breech cap.
This....
Some Rube Goldberg schitt......
Re: 50 Cal goes BOOM - 04/30/21
Originally Posted by Clarkm
Originally Posted by mauserand9mm
Originally Posted by Clarkm
85kpsi is a proof load.
I suspect the threads sheared off did not have enough engagement.
….
I suspect the threads sheared off did not have enough engagement.
….
From bad machining or bad design?
Bad design.
It looks like a firecracker gun I made in 1965 with a 3/4" water pipe and an end cap.
We used ½ copper with an expended 410 shell with a hole in top to stick the fuse out. Hold the shell over the tubing with your thumb. Fun stuff.....
Re: 50 Cal goes BOOM - 04/30/21
Originally Posted by hookeye
I wonder if previous shots damaged the gun and the last round nuked it.
Or if the Kaboom was 100% from one round.
Or if the Kaboom was 100% from one round.
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My interpretation of the SAAMI registered proof load ratio being around 1.3, is so once proofed, we know is probably good for ten thousand rounds of max average pressure.
Re: 50 Cal goes BOOM - 04/30/21
It’s been a while, but I seem to remember SLAP ammo as being prohibited for use in our Barrett M107’s. SLAP was strictly for the M2 machine gun for armor piercing purposes. IIRC the sabots were fouling the barrels to dangerous levels, not sure why someone thought it would act differently in the M2.
Re: 50 Cal goes BOOM - 04/30/21
Wow, that was not fun at all. I have had some erratic performing WWII 30-06 ammo that exhibited pressure spikes so I only shot a few of the 2000 or so I had bought at a gun show.
Re: 50 Cal goes BOOM - 04/30/21
A horrific video for sure. Is it possible that round could have been loaded by enemy forces and found it's way back into our surplus 50 BMG stock? As I understand it, the US loaded some "special" 7.62x39 ammo to salt over Vietnam that would have done that same boom thing to an AK-47.
Re: 50 Cal goes BOOM - 04/30/21
Sorry but if he wasn't paying attention to the erratic results prior to there kaboom,v then ya gets what ya gets.
If I'm walking in the woods and hear wolves, see wolf crap a wolf tracks it's my bad off I don't turn around and get out of dodge.
I'm certainly not posting my idiocy online.
If I'm walking in the woods and hear wolves, see wolf crap a wolf tracks it's my bad off I don't turn around and get out of dodge.
I'm certainly not posting my idiocy online.
Re: 50 Cal goes BOOM - 05/01/21
That load had to be well over 100,000 psi to create that much carnage, and I mean "well over"
Dean
Dean
Re: 50 Cal goes BOOM - 05/01/21
Originally Posted by Windfall
A horrific video for sure. Is it possible that round could have been loaded by enemy forces and found it's way back into our surplus 50 BMG stock? As I understand it, the US loaded some "special" 7.62x39 ammo to salt over Vietnam that would have done that same boom thing to an AK-47.
I'd like a large helping of SLAP, hold the Italian Green, my eldest son.
Re: 50 Cal goes BOOM - 05/01/21
Originally Posted by erickg
It’s been a while, but I seem to remember SLAP ammo as being prohibited for use in our Barrett M107’s. SLAP was strictly for the M2 machine gun for armor piercing purposes. IIRC the sabots were fouling the barrels to dangerous levels, not sure why someone thought it would act differently in the M2.
I sent this video to a retired Army Col. friend, and he didn't think SLAP ammo was available to civilians. He commanded a few different Army Ordnance Plants during his 32 year career and was surprised seeing somebody messing around with it.
I personally flinched when I saw that he was using a flimsy looking break open action.
Re: 50 Cal goes BOOM - 05/01/21
My first thought was it looks like a third world design. My second thought was, Dad should have warned him about the incredibly different muzzle flash previously. My third thought was to send that video to my own (so-called) adult sons
Re: 50 Cal goes BOOM - 05/01/21
What s a SLAP round?
Re: 50 Cal goes BOOM - 05/01/21
What is the shiny metal object in the video that comes flying off the gun when he loads and closes the action on the bad round? Look closely whatever it is goes flying towards the front of the table
Re: 50 Cal goes BOOM - 05/01/21
Originally Posted by superlight17b
What s a SLAP round?
https://www.google.com/search?q=SLA...
Re: 50 Cal goes BOOM - 05/01/21
Originally Posted by BamaJoe
What is the shiny metal object in the video that comes flying off the gun when he loads and closes the action on the bad round? Look closely whatever it is goes flying towards the front of the table
I saw that also.
Re: 50 Cal goes BOOM - 05/03/21
I saw something but thought it was a shadow. Might have to watch again.
Re: 50 Cal goes BOOM - 05/03/21
Originally Posted by rainshot
God Bless him. I do think there were clues that could've put up a red flag. Increasing muzzle blast and erratic accuracy for a couple. I do know from personal experience ammunition that is old and has been jostled around especially if heated, like carried on a dashboard for a while, can degrade the powder and change burning characteristics. It happened to friend of mine with factory 6mm Remington ammo. He did everything right and thanks to his dad and his exceptional health they managed to cheat death. That video is flinch worthy.
I agree. There were pressure signs before the kaboom.
I've watched that guy's videos before and enjoyed them. He tests a lot of guns and ammo. Glad he is ok.