A short video purports that the Jews are trying to rebuild the Temple in Jerusalem again. I know they have had Temple funds for years and years, it wouldn't surprise me if they had a billion dollars by now.
https://tv.gab.com/channel/emichaeljones/view/israel-rebuilding-the-temple-609aed349bee07da63b82de9

The producer of that video points out that the endeavor is fraught with peril, if the last attempt at rebuilding the Temple is any indication.
https://www.fisheaters.com/juliantemple.html

Maybe it's just more fiction to the atheists.

The Third Temple

the end is near

Rebuilding the temple has been in the works for some time.
Control of the dome of the rock is the problem.

Power to them!

Yep.

Can’t have 2 Roosters in the same henhouse.

One will have to go.

I stand with Israel!

Build it!

Tyrone,

Who do they plan to worship from this new temple?

Them Arabs gonna be pissed!

Only one way to acomplish that.

Where is Jag witht he prophesies?

Jews build the Temple
Biden lets Iran get nukes
They give one to Hamas..

What happens next?

Pisseder

That follows what will follow, HC.

God of Radioactivity more than likely.

Fugg em.

Had an old guy at my church he was deep into Eschatology, he was always keen on this third temple prophecy

The joel osteens don’t delve much into that between commercial breaks, nor do they in the lolly-gag churches of New Feelgoodism. Hurry up pastor missy, mama’s got a kidney pie in the oven.

They already have a permanent case of the redass about Jerusalem. Mess with their Dome of the Rock and the balloon will go up shortly.

They ain’t the only ones that know how to release balloons.

Some are even known to be of the preemptive sort

Yep.

Won't happen without another war.

The Biden admin is gonna thumb twiddle on all this, because they have valerie jarret and susan rice directing biden’s actions/inactions.
You see it now with their Marxist BLM counter wing coming out for Hamas.

BB knows it’s all or nothing, hopefully they have ample ordnance.

Lots of patriot missiles sent up the defeat those nickel and dime Katyushas. Hoping they can keep the batteries stocked when the Scuds and Shahabs start flying.

Yawn.

I have no doubt whatsoever that ample ordnance is available and ready.

Is that when the Jewish Messiah is expected to appear?

Maybe this is the war?

“Expected “, you ask ?

The train will run on time.

I wish them good fortune, with the hope that success will make Israel more appealing to prospective immigrants of Jewish ethnicity.

Evidently some of em’ (Jews) are ready for the resumption of animal sacrifices to crank up again.

The two witnesses of Revelation 11 will protect the Jews that rebuild the 3rd Temple. These two men will preach to the world for 3-1/2 years. They are Enoch and Elijah. During their 3-1/2 years, Christ will open the six seals in Revelation 6. I have a very strong feeling these two witnesses could show up this year. If they do, know that you are in the Great Tribulation

I’ve really underestimated the extent to which dispensationalism was cemented into the minds of boomers, and how deep seated their Christian Zionism really is.

I wonder what can be done about this?

Yes, according to our Father's schedule.👍

It doesn't look like they are planning to build it for Jesus. The residents of Israel are open about their Messiah being another one in spite of His command to the disciples to reach Jerusalem first. That love and acceptance went only one way for most.

Nothing. The brainwash is too complete.

So many of today's churches are wrapped up in this idea of a rapture. It was invented in the mid 1800's by an English preacher named John Darby. I've never found anything about it in the Bible. I believe what the Bible says and it doesn't say that.

I'd keep the building that sets there now and just occupy it by Jews. Maybe throw in some remodeling to make it Jewish. It would be a stick in the eye of every radical moslem on the planet. The moderate moslems don't care as long as it brings peace.

kwg

Many Protestants and evangelicals have misunderstood the Abrahamic covenant. One of the most popular study note Bibles of the previous century promoted hyper dispensationalism and zionism.
It was taught in most mainline seminaries too.
This does make it a hard dogma to reconsider.

There is a solution.
It starts with acceptance of the basic message in my signature. Then grow in the knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ by faithfully reading the Word and a good Church.

I don't follow Ryrie, but he does explain this briefly.

"Our modern understanding of rapture appears to have little or no connection with the eschatological event. However, the word is properly used of that event. Rapture is a state or experience of being carried away. The English word comes from a Latin word, rapio, which means to seize or snatch in relation to an ecstasy of spirit or the actual removal from one place to another. In other words, it means to be carried away in spirit or in body. The Rapture of the church means the carrying away of the church from earth to heaven.

The Greek word from this term “rapture” is derived appears in 1 Thessalonians 4:17, translated “caught up.” The Latin translation of this verse used the word rapturo. The Greek word it translates is harpazo, which means to snatch or take away. Elsewhere it is used to describe how the Spirit caught up Philip near Gaza and brought him to Caesarea (Acts 8:39) and to describe Paul’s experience of being caught up into the third heaven (2 Cor. 12:2-4). Thus there can be no doubt that the word is used in 1 Thessalonians 4:17 to indicate the actual removal of people from earth to heaven"

Basically, it's a latinized term that could have just as easily been called the "harpaz" which is short for the greek harpazo. Rapture is already a common english term, albeit with a different definition when commonly used.

I think of the game "Jacks" as a child.
Snatch up the jacks .
In the prophetic promise, it will be that the Lord will call up believers to be united with Him.
Then He will unleash His great judgement/wrath upon the world.

Didnt some sheep herder mention something about that a few thousand years ago in a weid conspiracy book called the Bible? Humm. Lucky guess.

Daniel, John, Paul and Matthew all wrote independently from one another and were miraculously in agreement.

I don't think you need to be a Dispensationalist or a Zionist to understand that Judaism still plays a role on in prophesy. I think that is plainly shown by the facts that Temple funds exist and have a ton of money and that any fool can see actually rebuilding the Temple would have epochal ramifications.

Now take a look at that word 'meet' in 1 Thes 4:17. It's used only 2 other places in the Bible, in the parable of the 10 virgins and when the Romans went out to greet Paul as he was approaching Rome. In both of those cases, the people went out to greet the guest of honor and escorted him TO HIS DESTINATION, not back to where he came from. Using those examples, Christians would be greeting Jesus in the air and escorting him TO HIS DESTINATION, EARTH, not back to where he came from, heaven.

As usual, you folks are way over my head.

If you’ve been going to church for 70 years, what have you been doing or listening to?

Ml

Just another prophesied coincidence trying to show people proof His words are truth and should be adhered to Closely rather than the words of mortal men who came in His name as wolves dressed in sheeps clothing, meaning organized religion, in it for the riches, power, fame, glory, hypnotizing pomp and enchanting circumstance that seems so wonderful to those who do not hear.

Israel will mop the floor with the dune coons, Chicoms, Russia, and anyone else who attempts to do the same to them.

In the end, most of the people of the world will oppose them and all of the countries. You really don't want to be in that group.

It was a conspiracy i tell you, a conspiracy. They communicated by chizlin rocks and with smoke signals.

Try blowing it outta your ass. Might help you some.

The really key event in the timeline for the "last days" is the peace treaty between Israel and the Arabs. Trump was closer than any president has even been in getting that done. It would seem when that peace treaty is signed, and it will be, that marks the beginning of the 7 years of tribulation. It will be a false peace though, it is written that it will be. Halfway through the tribulation is when the Jewish temple comes into play in a major way. The anti-christ will claim he is god in the temple and defile it. So with that in mind the Temple will be rebuilt.

The Jews aren't trying to rebuild the Temple because of any of this. They want to return to their Old Testament worship and that will include animal sacrifices. After the Temple is defiled though many will have their eyes opened to who Jesus really is and they will turn to Him.

Some say the Dome of the Rock is not on the original Temple Mound. If that's true one major obstacle is out of the way.

You may be wrong about wanting to return to animal sacrifice rituals.

Jus sayin.

No.

A real war.

U must be a dumbass.

Jesus spoke the words and gave a demo.

One of the requirements they have before work can begin on the Temple is that the ground has to be cleansed with the blood of a red heifer, pure red. For many years they have kept them under guard just for that purpose. A pure red heifer is rare. They have also been building all the items used in the Temple according to what they used in the beginning, in the Tabernacle during Moses time. Also thanks to dna testing they are finding people that have a true bloodline that can be traced back to the Levites. These were the original people that Moses appointed for the service of the Tabernacle and later the Temple that Solomon built. Why would they not return to the animal sacrifices? It's part of the Levitical law. I'm not disputing I could be wrong but I don't see why they won't keep the entire rituals of the Temple.

That’s easily arranged.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1SgTuC6468

Jim, respectfully I’d ask if you have a specific link concerning this as it pertains to the rebuilding of the Temple?

I ask because I am not aware of those specific requirements.

Again, asked with respect, Jim.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTSCQgZirts

I have also read that the priests are already trained to resume animal sacrifice . And the raising of the red heifers with dna specialists .

https://www.cogwriter.com/news/reli...e-rituals-in-anticipation-of-3rd-temple/

Yup, they couldn't even read in the olden days back fifty thousand years ago when Paul lived. ... according to carbon 14 dating and NVgazer.

Jim and Jeff, thanks and very interesting.

Don't they have to find a red cow first?

I read about that too. It's been a while since they had full red cattle.
I'm not trying to be argumentative, just asking.
Why haven't they been sacrificing for two thousand years? God didn't even ask for a temple. When we think about it, you'd think they'd be doing it all along.
Before Christ, there were specific instructions for the alter to be made of a pile of rocks or soil. There wasn't much special about it other than what not to do, like no tool work on the stones.

Here's another article. https://www.raptureready.com/2021/04/18/red-heifer-mania-by-jeff-van-hatten/
Apparently Israel has a breeding program in place for these red heifers. It's not the blood as I had said earlier but the ashes.

Interesting and thanks.

They won't sacrifice without the Temple. The last one was destroyed in 70 A.D. by the Romans. The rebuilding of the Temple is not so to speak of God himself but it is part of the time line. The Temple plays a significant role regardless of not being needed for salvation. Here's some interesting reading too https://www.bibletools.org/index.cfm/fuseaction/bible.show/sVerseID/22093/eVerseID/22093

You're welcome, Toot. There is allot to the study of these 7 years of the tribulation. Many have wondered where the Arch of the Covenant is or is it even in existence. We have no scripture that tells us that. Something I find interesting is the spear that pierced Christ's side. It's known as the Spear of Destiny. According to occult legend whoever possessed that spear could rule the world. Hitler was heavy into that belief and it has been reported that it was in a museum in Poland. https://www.agreart.com/the-spear-of-destiny

WWFD= what would Flave do?

Hot damn !

Indiana Jones gtf outta the way, we’re coming through !!
Grins!

If you haven’t read “The Holy Blood and The Holy Grail “, you might enjoy it.

Get drunk.

There's any number of red cattle breeds. Red Poll, Devon, and Red Angus for example, and there's other breeds which will often throw all-red calves too, like Durham, Shorthorn, Limousin, Dexter and others. Not hard to find them at all.

Of course that is only one of the massive plot holes in this fairytale.

Israel is spending allot of money on a so called fairytale. They won't import cattle. They have imported semen from red cattle here in the USA for the breeding program.

I have asked a man from Israel who claimed to be orthodox why they no longer sacrifice animals.
He said what many evangelicals say.

"The temple must be built first."

When I read my Bible, I do not recall anything about the requirements of having a temple or a particular red heifer before a sacrifice can be offered.

Yes, there have been red cattle that reportedly met the high rabbi standards genetically for many years.

Perhaps two thousand years of the lack of a sacrifice points to the fact that the qualified Sacrifice was fulfilled. The Lamb of God that taketh away the sins of the world.

Hebrews 10:10-18

Please give us the verses where Jesus said that.

Perhaps two thousand years without a temple points to the fact that since the resurrection...God dwells in His believers...they are the temple.

Once again, bollocks. Israel has been importing live cattle since 1996, when restrictions were lifted, to increase local production of beef. They are also working to develop a beef breed suited to the local conditions. This follows their success in developing their dairy herd to be among the most productive in the world.

How do they know who the Levites are?

Weren't all the genealogical records all destroyed with the Temple in 70AD?

I think only Levites are authorized to make the sacrifices (which, according to Christian teaching, ought to now be a stench in God's nostrils considering His Son was the sacrifice already made...the sacrifice that the previous animal sacrifices merely pointed to).


Tim

Amen

Indeed. That as well...

"Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?"

I Corinthians 3:16

Pretty much. Christian Zionism is a heretical doctrine invented within the last 100 year.






Exactly!

Also, the Israel of the Bible ISN'T the modern day nation state. It's the Church. All believers.

[video:youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZIXGizBjiA/video]

https://youtu.be/9zlM6cxGuAs

That is a kind thought, but I think it will take some additional motivation.

The Scofield bible really did a number on Christian minds and something similar is going to be needed to roll all of that back. Otherwise the next generation of Christian leaders will learn the same Jewry contaminated interpretation as many of the current ones and more and more churches will openly support the degeneracy that Jews promote.

If the temple were rebuilt, would Israel be a more appealing place for you to live?

We are currently in the biggest war the earth has ever experienced involving good vs evil.

The satanic forces of evil vs our God given constitution, where the evil denies, along with some fire guys (like you) hat we are anything more than animals and without a spirit, thus made in HIS image.

Its a world wide atypical war where if He doesnt win, the earths population will be reduced by the satanists to about 250 million people.

Wear your mask, your heros are pushing their dehumanizing agenda.

Take your shot, your heros want to screw your God given DNA.

Come on AS, tell us its ok.

…12For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this world’s darkness, and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms. 13Therefore take up the full armor of God, so that when the day of evil comes, you will be able to stand your ground, and having done everything, to stand. 14Stand firm then, with the belt of truth buckled around your waist, with the breastplate of righteousness arrayed,…

Jean Ptaske?

Those that trust in the false “rapture” doctrine are being set up for failure

Good one.

A country that relies on US taxpayer funded aid to survive will wipe the floor with China , Russia?? You have a pretty wild imagination! Lol

Jesus didn't speak it directly during his earthly mission, but through His servents that wrote the Bible by Divine Inspiration. Much of the Bible is thus recorded.

His example of the rapture is His Ascention from earth to the clouds. This is similar to that written in First Thessalonians.

There have been other raptures already recorded. Do YOU know which they are?

Why do so many want to discount, or deny, that which is written?

Why do so many wear masks? Many of those are the same that will willingly take the Mark of the Beast, without hesitation or concern.

Think!

Why do that when I can come and go as I please.

Maybe something to consider for the future.

Grins !

Prior to John Darby...for eighteen and a half centuries...the church had a different view regarding the verses in 1 Thessalonians. They understood em’ to be about Jesus’ second coming. John Darby saw em’ differently. And a lotta people nowadays see em’ as John Darby saw em’. Regardless of how these verses are interpreted...for most people who are followers of Jesus...we all still hope for, and look forward to, Jesus comin’ back again.

Historically speaking one of the reasons the Jews want the temple site purified might go back to when it was built in the first place. Over time the Pharisees and the Sadducees added to the Mosaic law. Much of it was just plain junk. Keep that in mind when talking about the Mosaic law. What they added was "extra". In reading about the actual construction of the firs temple it's believed, because of Jewish belief, that they felt the ground was not hallowed. The fist temple actually had a foundation that was as large as what was about the ground. They removed dirt that had been exposed to human blood from past conflicts. To them to not do so was taboo.

Also you can find several accounts in the Bible where some sacrifices that were given were not allowed by God and were considered a sin. One example is when King Saul offered a sacrifice after growing tired of waiting on Samuel. If you recall Samuel admonished him for this. So the people responsible for the construction of the Temple today are very aware of all the history involved in the past and it matters to them. The Temple is also strictly Jewish and shares no connection with the New Testament church. We are tied together from the standpoint that it will be part of the end times process but we are not at all in regard to salvation. As you mentioned in another post, Jesus is our sacrifice and all we ever need.

So because of the old law and traditions the Jews want a temple for sacrifices of whatever kind they choose to submit. Whatever the reason it's going to be an elaborate thing and something of great interest to many of us. What it won't ever be is a place for God to dwell in as in times past. We as Christians that are saved by His blood are that dwelling place now!

For sure , many believers of Jesus are wrapped up in the idea of the coming rapture. Thankfully, it’s more than just an idea—it’s scriptural. “Rapture” does not appear in Biblical text but comes from the Latin word rapiemur, which means caught up. It is taken from the Greek word harpazo, which means to snatch away or caught away.
Acts 8:39, 2 Cor 12:2, 4, Rev 12:5, and 1 Thess 4:17

Harpazo is the Greek word for rapture and is referred to in 1 Thess 4:17
“Then we which are alive and remain shall be CAUGHT UP together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.”

1 Thess mentions the return of Christ and 1 Thess 4:15-17 is the clearest picture of the upcoming rapture. If we (believers) are still alive, we will go up literally in the air to meet Jesus.

1 Corinthians 15:50-57 also refers to the rapture. We will be changed and the dead will be raised incorruptible in the twinkling of an eye.

Luke 17:26-37 also gives us a picture of the rapture by Jesus.

Judgment can’t fall on the world until believers are gone. Luke 17:26-36

God has not appointed His children to wrath. 1 Thess 5:9-10. God will deliver us from His wrath that will be poured out on the earth during the tribulation. The tribulation is wrath, not judgment. Rev 6:16-17. The church is not mentioned during the tribulation.

...but God shows His love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. Since, therefore, we have now been justified by His blood, much more shall we be saved by Him from the wrath of God. Romans 5:8-11

God’s own will be spared from the upcoming tribulation’s horrors. Rev 3:10

I don’t envy unbelievers the day after the rapture. God is in control, and Jesus is coming again.

It's actually not very hard to understand. With the rapture, we meet our maker in the air, with Jesus making no physical contact with planet earth. At his 2nd coming, Jesus' feet actually touch the ground so He can finish what He started.

Your reading it wrong...
The only thing ending is the current astronomical age.

https://www.britannica.com/science/precession-of-the-equinoxes

The distinction still remains that for eighteen and a half centuries these verses were understood to pertain to Jesus’ second coming. Period.

But in the middle of the 1800’s Darby proposed that Jesus would return in two stages; in stage one He would secretly ‘rapture’ the church and those people would suddenly disappear; and some time after that in stage two He would visibly return in all of His glory.

Clearly some adamantly agree with Darby’s position. Others, not so much...or at all.

Regardless, many just want Jesus to come back. Period.

Doesn't matter what these people thought, that's irrelevant. What matters is the truth. Whitetail has it nailed.

The Thessalonians and, at least some of, the Ephesians thought that the earth and people would still be here AFTER 'the coming'............

Paul corrects their 'timing' NOT their understanding of the nature of the return.

I hope they build a Dan Halen money making tourist attraction Temple all blinged the fugg out on that site after they D8 and D9 bulldoze the fugg outta that POS mosque.

And it starts a giant schit storm world wide.

Just because they can.....

Remember how pissed Muslims got when Ariel Sharon visited the Dome of the Rock in 2000...?

It’s not an essential belief either way. One’s salvation doesn’t depend on whether or not they are in agreement with John Darby’s interpretation of these particular verses in 1 Thessalonians.

Got 0 problem with the Israeli's.
They been taking the fight to scumball muslims for centuries.

Some need to start looking at the difference between regular jewish people in Israel and scumball jewish globalist elsewhere on the planet.


Some Allies have trade offs.
Isreal has its trade offs.
But they aint the F u c king enemy many think they are.

Some people aint never left corncob USA and have a very limited veiw of most things.
Their little 360 degree horizon type of schit.....


Their are bigger fish to fry.
Like the 2022 mid term elections.
If a 3 peat of election fraud happens.

It's game over for this nation.
And the globalist and chinese win........
No matter what religon they "claim" to be........

Funny that these so called Jews of big business in the US and people like Soros, Rothschilds, Rockefellers etc are anti-American supporters of the DNC and are pro muzzy.

IOW, pro muzzy = Anti-Israeli.

WTH?

Can someone explain that? AFAIC, it means these pukes most people refer to as Jews, and who call themselves Jews, are False Jew Bolsheviks.

Look at the "Jews" like Coumo and Nadler and Schumer just lovey dovey with the muzzy quartet dissing Israel in their Pali conflict.

WTH.

Otoh, Wexner, benefactor of Epstein was working for, it appears, Israel.

I was wondering the same.

Jesus didnt say he was a jew. He is the Christ, the Father.

Pilate asked if He was king of the Jews (and people ran with it). Jesus replied, "Thats what you say".

Pilate hung that on the cross.

Jesus didnt answer him that He was or wasnt, because Jesus Christ was King of ALL, meaning mankind, beasts, sea, sky air rocks.....

Later, He said He was COME BUT TO THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL.

JEW AND ISRAELITE ARE NOT INTERCHANGEABLE TERMS.

The Southern Empire, after the split, was composed of the Tribes of Judah and Benjamin. THEY CALLED THEMSELVES JEWS.

The Northern Empire was callec the ISRAELITES, though modern religion ignores these facts as desdribed in the BIBLE. The Israelites did not call themselves Jews.

Shout out to those here who may be Jewish.

I have posed questions about the rebuilding of the Temple because it's mentioned in Bible prophecy.
That's why it matters to me. There's a timeline that I believe will eventually come to pass in our lifetime or later.

You guys put up with a lot and have much patience. It's kind of like those who view all who call themselves Christians with the TV preachers or the denomination that has little in common.
I talked to Orthodox Jews who would not consider the Reformed to be true Jews for instance.
Don't take it personally. I can only speak for myself, but I think some would agree that the banking elites that pay off politicians and manipulate gvts are separate from the guy who owns the bagel shop in Pittsburgh, the physicians at the local hospitals, and the loving Jewish mothers we know. I also have been blessed by those in my own extended family.

I pursued an interest in what the Books of Moses and the prophets have said about eternal life. If you ever wish to talk about that, feel free to connect. I have an open door policy to sincere discussions about the Holy Scripture.

Sincerely,

HC

I agree. People like Soros share nothing with decent people that happen to have Jewish heritage. He deserted those people and God as well, of course he may never have been a lover of God.

If I live to see it happen I would love to see this new Temple. I can only imagine the one that Solomon had built.

Yes, he was without a conscience even in his youth.
You've probably seen the interview with Wallace where he explained it. If not, let me know and I'll send you a link.

When I read the materials that King David provided and the details of his son's project, it must have been the most impressive architecture ever built.

People need to read paul formally known as sauls letter to the romans. That being said itswho and what you stand for. I personally stand for and with El Shaddi. God Almighty himself chose abraham. His great grandson jacob was renamed to Israel. This the 12 tribes named after the twelve sons. God himself gave that land to abraham before they moved to egypt during the famine. In my view they ought to treat it like king david did. They ought to merc em and rebuild Gods house.

Thank you.

"Expectations" are meaningless.


HC needs to reduce dosage.

Just remember the curses - God gave them the land conditionally. If they did not follow Him, He would "spew them from the land".

If you believe Yeshua of Nazareth was/is the promised Messiah, you will understand that Yahweh made good on His promise.

Those who rejected the Son were rejected by the Father.

Fortunately, is is not of him who runs, or wills, but of Him who shows mercy.

Wallace?? Nig'ga please.

Why are you worshiping the propagandist dribble of communist netwurkz?

Corncob, USA

LOL

Renegade spoke the truth with that total post.

Yep, made me laugh out loud!

LD that interview was something to see and Wallace actually did a good job.

Soros will lose to gravity soon enough. His son is of the same mind only deeper in purpose than George.

I'm so sick & tired of this Jew/Arab crap. They have been killing each other since Cain & Able.

???

There's an old Mike Wallace interview with Soros recorded from 60 minutes. George Soros speaks his mind.

Why do you say that my reference to the interview is worshipping Communist propaganda?

Again, what is your point?

Very well put.

I asked the Jewish man the question to see what he thought as an Israeli Orthodox Jew.

We had an interesting and friendly discussion about our views on God and the Bible.

I’m not.

We should be cheering when the enemies of Western civilization kill one another.