Anyone used or know of a career counseling type app or business that can help someone find a job they actually enjoy? Kinda done with doing jobs I hate and I don't want to jump into another one.

Thanks ahead of time. And bob brown GFY ahead of time.

If i was burned out, I’d prolly go work at a state park.

Or drive a bush hog for the county.

Used to think that was easy. Til i saw one dude with a side boom ditch cutter chop down a light pole. 🤪😂

Actually those don't sound half bad. I took this retail manager job to provide income while I help a bud build his insurance business. Long story short...people have behaved so badly and the company treats us like a rented porta pot.

So just thinking on my next step

If I was gonna embark on something else, it wouldn't be working for someone else. I would probably start my own lawn care business if I could figure out what to do during the winter.

Yup.

Less interaction with ppl the better.....

Company bragged loudly about making a billion in sales last year. Still setting new records. No bonuses or raises though. They say things are just too uncertain.

All them SOB’s buying those Heritage 22’s!!!!

Seriously, though, I hope you find something you enjoy, or can at least, tolerate.

My own fault. I quit college and started working in restaurants and worked my way up and then decided to do insurance and did it for 13 years and was getting awards but just saw so much corruption going on and I left. I took this job to have some income while I work on this insurance business but i just don't have the patience for the hateful and Democrat brainwashed public anymore.

Good luck with your search. In my experience, more people quit because of their manager than of the work.

Yep

Job placement services, head hunters, should be able to help. Give them you skill set, but stress your desire to branch out or use your skills in a field other than the one you're unhappy with.

I would think with restaurant experience, plus retail mgmt, that there might be all kinds of restaurant mgmt jobs available.

Down here in TX, they’re offering folks $80k plus to run a Braum’s (Ok/TX chain of ice cream/tiny grocer stores).

No way in hell I would go back to food. Was worse than what i do now by a lot.

Clearly you're a people person.

Requires patience.

I don't know how old you are or what your math skills are like but if I were 20 or 30 years younger I'd be here: CNC is the future of manufacturing. It's you and a machine.
https://titansofcnc.com/

41. Math skills...i can do it but its definitely not a strength

I know it sucks

Daddy doesn’t always leave us a 600 acre farm, some sakos and Co-Cola route.

Lol yep.

Give some consideration to the trades and the industries that support the trades. Just about every contractor and supply house needs help right now. Ever consider driving a truck. Lots of need for drivers right now. Give some consideration to driving a ready mix truck. Good pay, good benefits, and home every night.

Gave some thought to trucking. But I have diabetes and use insulin and as I understand it that's a no no

Accountancy.

Really?

Hell...you can have a private pilots license and be diabetic.

Trades people are in high demand right now and the pay has gone up substantially the last few years. I retired as an electrician 3 years ago and now my son, who is doing the same thing is making almost $10 more per hour than I was making when I retired.

Also, trades people have about the highest job satisfaction of any group I've ever been around. A job where you can look back at the end of the day and see what you've accomplished that day, or week is highly satisfying. I've never met very many guys in trades who hate what they do and more and more the percentage of college educated people in trades is going up due to just what you are describing- burn out from working in the corporate world and hating to work in customer service of any type.... maybe even check into taking a few classes and get into project management if you're not into working with your hands and back every day....

Bob

Hmm. Thanks sheister. That's a good thought

Can't say if these are any good, but there seems to be a lot out there. Might be worth a look.

https://www.themuse.com/advice/the-11-best-career-quizzes-to-help-you-find-your-dream-job



Jerry

Gunsmith. Take a course and get to work.

Thanks jerry

I have a friend who also sold insurance and is/was really good at it, then he had enough.

He bought a small/medium size excavator he could haul with his pickup and trailer, he now owns two of them and is super busy, one of the happiest people I know...now he is doing something he wants to be doing.

#RentFugkingFree



LMAO

Go back to school and pick up something technical. Trades are in high demand and programmers

You have to be a self starter to work for yourself and in the trades must be able to meet deadlines.

Seriously, have you considered becoming a real estate agent ?

No I just knew Bob Brown schit stain would come follow me and post.

And there he is

Bob...go suck on a glock and do us all a favor. You are as welcome as herpes around here.

I'd work on a good resume. Hire a service if you can. They can help with the buzz words.

Get on and be active on LinkedIn - network like crazy, add value. MANY jobs these days are filled because you know someone, not because you filled out the application and dropped it off at the front desk. I got my most recent job after 3 phone calls, in a hoodie from my kitchen table. It was who I knew and the credibility I built on LinkedIn by being engaged and having a network that got me the gig.

Indeed - meh, all I ever got from there was offers for contract work which seemed so sketchy I discounted them immediately.

Depending on family situation - trades are a great way to get into something better for you. My problem with them a few years back was 2 fold. 1. It was almost impossible to get the local union halls to talk to me, explain the process. All they did was give me the run around and 2. Starting apprentice pay was a serious step back from what I was already making. Wasn't going to happen without a fire sale and living in a tent.

Might take some night classes for welding or machining if you can - build a bit of a resume, network and then transition rather than quit one for the other. If that makes sense.

Go to welding school, big need for welders.

HVAC...........don't know if there's any money in it, but could learn the ropes and go out on your own. Plenty of work for skilled HVAC techs.

Lot of time in hot attics in the residential HVAC business

There's a guy named Ken Coleman with Ramsey solutions who has a radio show and that's what he does is helps people figure out what they want to do, make a resume and figure out how to break into the job maket. Make check him out.

Every contractor I know is desperately seeking truck drivers, equipment operators, and laborers. Most positions pay $20+ to start.

Unless it has changed, diabetes isn't a disqualifier for a CDL. There is a physical required, but I know diabetics who drive commercially.

Sherwin Williams. No matter the economy, the world needs paint.

Truck driving would be a good job. I have had the same trade since I graduated high school. Maybe you could be a plumber.

Learn to fly drones.

Job security, no matter who’s in the White House.

#CarpetBombFromARecliner.

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I’m retiring in September and am also trying to figure out what I want to do next.

My younger son is in high school and often says he doesn’t have any idea what he wants to do. I’m 47 and still don’t know! I tell him just to try something that is available and see how you like it. If you don’t, try again. Life is too short to work a job you hate for very long.

Hanco is right but I'd add plumbing and electrician high on the list. The thing is the left has undermined the whole country with pc nonsense and getting these people placed in management, bhr, and admin. They are the ones promoting micromanagement, team player horsesh*t and all the other bad things in the work place that minimizes the importance of having quality skilled help and technicians to do the work. They are the ass clowns who hire unskilled incompetents to fill quotas for race ,sex, binary perversions then expect the their good help to train the worthless fugs and or pick up their slack and making sure the job is done. A skilled tradesmen can quickly sort out the worthless tell the boss to get rid of them or stick it up his ass or you'll go work for yourself or a competitor. Damn few people can make that stick and work today but right at the top of the list are plumbers and electricians they are the people whose ability and results are damned hard to find today and getting more scarce by the minute. Being a self starter, independent, skilled, in these fields will never find you unemployed or having to put up with today's management HORSESH*T. MY 2 CTS WORTH. Mb

Definitely agree with this. You'd make damn good money as well.

I do like to work with my hands and create things...

Stop by a building site and ask if they are hiring.

It seems to be primarily regional on that. Here in my area, average welder pay is 19 an hour.

i got a free 6 months use of randstadt when i got laid off in march. i went into it with an open mind. when i talked to the career counselor i could tell they were reading off a script. they'll send you links out the ass to things that you could easily find yourself. if i would have paid for this service, i would have been dissatisfied. it was essentially useless except they did help me make a new resume for my current career.

heres their schpiel

what are your strengths
what are your weaknesses
if you could have any job, what would it be?

ok, now go get 'em.

Networking with folks can get you further than a resume.

I hope you find something you like. I don’t know if I’ve liked my trade all that much, but it’s been good to me.

Thanks hanco. Not much that's more energy sapping than going somewhere you hate for 5 days of your week

Nepotism is always awesome.

Every trade has a bad side. If it was easy, everybody would do it.

Become a Hooker MJ, I always wanted to be a hooker.

Why don't you try becoming an independent Insurance agent? Your rules your sales.

Yeah but it would take huge money and companies aren't going to sign on with just any agency. They want established and track records of sales in the hundreds of thousands.

Learn to trade.... commodities, stocks etc.... buy low sell high.... much more opportunity than any job

If you want to try the independent insurance agent path you might check for one of the aggregators that provide access to markets for a piece of the commission on business written through them. The ones I’ve seen typically have no volume commitments from the agent. Not sure who may operate in your area, the ones I am somewhat familiar with are Iroquois and, in Colorado, The Ahbe Group. Your local independent insurance association should be able to point you toward any that operate in your region.

i resemble that remark. but at least it pays well

The electrician angle and plumbing angle are good trades. Having welded a few years, there are far better ways to make a living. Welding has become the trade of immigrants! Shops paying minimum wage, and turning out alleged quality abound across the country! Pipe line and nuclear plants are where the welding pays. Both are subject to political winds, and result in wavering job security. The suggestion of project management a good idea! It does help to have some background the field the project encompasses! No one is hiring project managers to build a bridge, when your skill set is food service!!

If you can do the CAD it does most of the math for you. But, you have to know some basics and how to use a micrometer.

kwg

All these suggestions & if your age was revealed I missed it. A big deal for further training or obtaining a degree. How many years to work before you retire ?

Some/none of this stuff doesn't get you hired in a month or two.

Hell, everybody here acts like they know mjbgault personally. If so, carry on. But otherwise, who are we suggesting a career for.???????

If I'm totally out of the loop on this, please excuse my ignorance & intrusion.

I am 40. Experience in retail and restaurant and QC management. Spent 13 years in insurance. Can type and build my own computers. Got 3 years of college in communications (outdated print journalism which is why I didn't bother to finish).

I have hired and fired and handled a ton of money and responsibility.

Just tired of corruption and nepotism and burned out with working with the public.

Payday loan joint. I daydream about owning one and fleecing idiots 7 days a week.

Thank you sir. At 40 you have a great opportunity & time to find another career. But seeking a better employer might be the solution. Or not. Your initial desire for guidance or counseling is well warranted. That, & a lot of searching on your own. I wish you well & another path is sometimes needed.

Lol, you could go work for CNN...........

I would look at the industries in which you have experience. Don't like corruption and nepotism? Not all companies in those businesses are like that.

As far as the trades are concerned, they can get hard as you get older. Arthritis makes some plumbing jobs hard.

You said you have QC management. In what industry? Why not look for a QC job in a company in that industry?

It's a great job if you like it. Truckers are hired and paid based on experience. Get a couple years of good driving under your belt and you're good to go. First couple of years will be tough till you learn the ropes.

Rodeo clown or stuntman .

My qc was in polymers. Only a few companies in the world do what my employer did so not exactly available.

The skill sets you have will allow you to do well in almost any field. Being sick of the public will hold you back in most as well. If the burnout is temporary, then maybe a year or two on a construction crew or in a truck will help. At 40, you still have a long time ahead, so think long term as well. A skilled trade might be great but by 55 you’ll want to be supervising instead of doing the heavy lifting. Good luck with your search. BTW, I’d rather shovel manure than work in the insurance industry, but that’s just me.

They started asking us what we wanted to do when we were in 7th grade. I didn't know then and i still don't know. I always wanted to have kids and build a house and enjoy life. None of that happened.

Oh well.

"it would sure be cool if he did!"

have you tried cash register at KFC? Apparently they need an infusion of finance knowledge

There are tests and services that will help you understand you...and what types of jobs you might like and what your personality will thrive on and tolerate. Try enough that you are satisfied with results.

Network. I’m sure there is a number, but many jobs are filled by networking. I know one young fella who went to work doing software - his network? He played on-line games with his now supervisor. BS with everyone you meet! Get on LinkedIn. Shoot me a PM. I’m not extremely active there, but it helps.

I’m a big fan of trades and/or technical jobs. Be good at it, you’ll never be unemployed. You’ll work by the hour, get overtime, etc. I work salary and feel like I get dicked every day. There are a number of paths within each trade. Electrical? Residential, larger scale, etc. you would be surprised how many technical jobs are out there that you’ve never heard of. I am a Hardware Project Manager for a Medical Systems company. I interface with cancer centers and hospitals, trades, general contractors, etc. lastly, it’s one of the greatest areas to branch out into your own business. You would not believe what some of the small concrete companies make - even the ones whose wife has to do their math!

My 2 cents. I’m 60 and looking backwards.

So you're single and able to move around? Or are you stuck in Ohio for some reason?

You might check with your State employment agency to see if they have any career counseling or aptitude testing. An aptitude test I took years ago when changing careers sure helped with knowing what I'd be suitable for.......................that's no the same as what I can do. I had the education and smarts to work in a bank, as an insurance agent, accountant, etc etc types of indoor "smarts" jobs. But not the aptitude for them.

The test came up with careers such as "back country forest ranger", "cattle rancher/cowpoke", "game warden"......basically outdoor type work in rural areas where most of the work is done alone or in small groups. I liked to fish, so I went back to school and got a degree in "fish". It served me well. Not rich, but I haven't missed many meals lately either and the roof over my head is sound.

Yeah, I was a few years younger than you, but had no attachments like you apparently. So back to the university as a starving student for 4 years, then a couple of years of seasonal work, then a "career" with govt agencies, a decent 401K type deal, a small pension, some Social Security. And I got to live in some really cool rural places, see cool things, work with very cool fishes around the US of A, hunt and fish in a few different States, found the "gal of my dreams" while in school and she's still with me, and now we have a pretty nice life.

Whatever you figure out, whatever you get paid, make sure you take every advantage given such as matching funds from your employer and maximize those the best you can.


Go for what you like first, but pick something with some potential. I don't follow orders so well when the orders come from dummies, and I don't play office politics well either, so becoming a manager never was on my agenda. Probably could have handled an assistant manager job for a few years before retirement, but it didn't turn out that way either. Instead I took a lower down the ladder seasonal position with a LOT of overtime and made as much money as when I was a higher up......................and I enjoyed the crap out of my job most days.

Happiness rules............money follows if you play it right. But even if it doesn't...................at least you're happy.

Good luck.

Oh, here's another good thing. Employers really need help nowadays:

I am married and no way she is going to be happy if we move away from her relatives. So yeah...stuck in this state. Hate Ohio.

AS the saying goes........................



yer fugged dude.

But still, good luck.

Lol yep

Dang.


That is tough.

If it were totally up to me we would be in tennessee or montana next damn week

Did you know that going in?

Niche services with few competitors. Might have to travel some, but very lucrative. Know guys with concrete grinding business, and another with a concrete cutting/boring business. Does specialty stuff like large diameter holes, or deep cuts with specialized equipment.
Can basically charge anything he wants be cause there are few to no other guys doing it close by.
Find a guy ready to retire to train you and possibly finance the sale to you.

Hit a franchise trade show, see what’s available in your region.

Asbestos abatement, mold remediation. Take a few months and get certified. Guys make damn good $$ with 2-3 Hispanics and a dump trailer.

Appraisal services?
Realtor. 4 weeks and you can have your license.
If I didn’t have kids It would be sky’s the limit.

A plumber ? Schidt flows downhill pretty easy

Be a farmer. It’s part time and federally subsidized.

How about a bartender? Some make real good money!

HVAC specializing in 24/7 weekend calls. There won’t be enough time Monday-Friday to spend all the money you’ll make.

He said he's tired of dealing with the public.

Deals with public

Grass cutting is not bad . Even a cheap mower will cut grass and you don’t need a brand new 4x4 diesel truck to haul mowers . Underbid everyone else with the goal of getting as many yards in close proximity as possible. You will be able to make it rain at Hustler’s.

Gigalo?

Stripper?

Gigolo you Ignorant twit. Lmfao.

And that’s not dealing with the public? Lmao, moron.

I love welding and fabrication almost as much as I love machine work. Have made my living at both. In both cases I found a reason to bow out.
Machine shop stuff didn’t pay worth a darn in my case, plus working with “all you have to do is” customers that wanted it yesterday but dropped it off today and I worked for an guy that I couldn’t continue to get along with.

Welding is great money, in some cases. Rig welding in a booming oil patch, firing line putting in a pipeline, %100 X-ray power piping in a nuke plant, all pay big bucks but also require you to keep and maintain a $50-80k rig plus keep insurance and certs current. Then you have to go where the work is, and if you’re a rig welder the work may be hundreds of miles away at 2am on a broke down drilling rig.

Welding in a fab shop or trailer mfg place is just as bad or worse on your body with the added benefit of not paying diddly. Iron workers make better money though not in the rig welder realm, but work is often on the road.

I ended up going to work for a power company. I’m currently working as more or less a gopher for the mechanics in the plant, welder helper, fire watch, maintaining equipment, any oddball jobs that don’t really fall under any of the better positions. But I’m getting my ducks in a row and going to retest to get my welding certs current to get a better spot when a couple guys retire in the next year or two. My theory was to find something that no matter the economy people had to have. Folks are going to have electricity, gas, water, roads, etc no matter what. If you were down here you could get on with the county maintenance crew mowing ditches and work your way up if you stuck with it. Or get on reading meters or doing shut offs for the gas company. All secure stuff that isn’t going away and has benefits, retirement, and roof to advance, plus being home every night.

Your childhood was miserable. Just admit it, meanie.

Tag

I hear Biden is trying to double the size of the IRS.

It’s gonna be hard to get a good job without dealing with people.

Just look at how happy Blackheart is.

It was only one of the best Python sketches of all time.....

You rent them by the hour or for the entire night ?

#BobbyLovesPenis

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#NetworkingIsNotNepotism

Until tonight my Monty Python literacy stopped at A Fish Called Wanda.

https://www.thebalancecareers.com/free-career-aptitude-tests-2059813

IF you are willing to move to where the next big job is. If you aren't you need to find out what they pay in your area.

It's literally the best way to get a job. But you still need a good resume. You would be amazed how many people you know. If I were younger I would get a CDL and drive truck. You know the demand is there. So long as you don't have to buy your own truck, you can do it till you get tired of it, or till you are ready to retire.

LOL!!!

Doesn’t networking require interaction with people? Lol

I guess a male stripper is out????

He probably doesn't want to deal with the pubelic either.

Well played mathman

I like grass cutting the best . That’s a low stress public interaction setting .

“Hi”

“Here’s your pay”

“Thanks. See ya next week”

Will your minivan pull a lawn mower trailer?

A good shoe shine stand?

I saw a sign on a business the other day that said, "biweekly stimulus payments available immediately."

They'll be telling you that for the next 40 years.

To be fair, you’re only entitled to the pay upon which you had agreed. Why would one believe they had more coming?

No one thought they deserved it. Just gives you an example of the cheap aholes I work for and why so many of us want out. They find a way to avoid spending a dime on anything but bonuses for execs while we do the work. Pretty much how they operate.

Someone asked on a conference call about the 401k program and one of the higher ups said "we arent here to help your future, this is about us."

Lol you kidding me? That's the attitude the whole way thru all the upper management.

Sure sounds like a short sighted outlook for an employer to have. Likely good that you’re getting out. Now, with labor hard to find, many businesses will be forced to offer better. I’ve got a few employees. Great people that I truly value. I make sure they know that.

You sound like a good guy to work for. I seem to have a knack for finding toxic bosses. Unless there are just that many out there.

Wasn't my point at all.








mjbgalt, the point I WAS trying to make was think in terms of mjbgalt, Inc.

You've already discovered there is no loyalty in the DNA of American corporations. Yet, they spend countless hours trying to instill it in their employees. Why? Because they want you to feel guilty for putting yourself and your family's future first and seeking independence.

Don't fall for it. ALWAYS put yourself and your family's future first. ALWAYS seek to be independent.

If corp X isn't getting it done for you, corp Y is right down the street.

Better yet, ALWAYS be thinking of how you can put together your own gig and put American corporations in your rearview.

Told my friend the other day, I am a free agent who works for my family. Always open to going to the next job to better our situation.

I agree. No loyalty and No appreciation. While many companies were paying covid bonuses the one i work for was cutting every thing they could and raising prices and under cutting employee pay and benefits. They brag about being debt free and super successful. Well ok. Then how about paying new employees more than minimum? How about putting more than a max of 300 bucks a year in the 401k? How about ANY benefits other than so so health care?

finding a job, let alone a career right now is difficult. If I had to do it again, and at this time, I would concentrate on being self employed.

You need to get TF out of there.

Don't waste your life there. Get your own gig going.

Great post!

f-uck that schit. you need to find something else. if i was 40 and in a schit job like that, i'd be looking at local municipalities, county, etc. pay ain't all that great but benefits make up for it.

Minimum wage is irrelevant in this area. Starting wage is at least $2-5 higher than that for any job. Vacancies everywhere. Good time to be in the job market. The biggest competition for employers seems to be enhanced unemployment compensation. I think we need to stop that. Sad that so many employers shoot themselves in the foot by treating workers badly. It winds up costing them big money in the end.

Nepotism is being nice to your relatives so they will hire you.

Contact Discovery Channel about a Bigfoot hunting reality series. You never know. Maybe twerk some gun ideas during the show .

Nasty, bothersome things, jobs. Glad I don’t need one. If I did now, I’d consider driving a truck. Retail and food service management has to be the pits.

I know you want more money than it pays, but I’ve asked several Amazon delivery people about how they like their jobs. All of them were very happy. Around here, that’s probably a plum for those without a skill. Has to beat the Hell out of retail. I bet it’s costing UPS and Fedex dearly too. One guy was driving a nice crew-cab pickup. Said his shop had several of them.

Maybe, but MANY are underfunded time bombs waiting to blow when you need them. I’d check on any that I was considering, and always have a backup or two. Some may undercut your SS as well. Fine print, Grasshopper!

I find honesty refreshing.

I’ve discovered that hanging around negative people will make you down on everything as well. It sounds like you work with a bunch of whiners. It’ll rub off on ya.

An employee is a necessary evil for creating a profit. They are the single largest drain on just about any business. This isn’t what most folks want to hear, but that doesn’t make it amy less true. If your superiors act like they give a chit about you personally, you’ve been lied to.

I thought about putting my larger boat into fishing charter...”Stripers for Seniors.” Just drive around a bunch of old guys and let em drink and smoke cigars and tell stories! They can always say we caught nothing as it’s not out of the realm of possibility. 4 hour booze cruise.

That sounds like a business that could be really popular.

To be clear. I am management at the store level. So I don't make minimum and i don't have the issues that some other employees do. But to treat them like rented migrant farm workers is just wrong and i don't mind sticking up for them.

How many people work under you mjbgalt ?

Ignore this. It is horrible.

Mostly just your mom

why not go back to school, get a marketable skill like plumber, electrician ,and move to a state with a strong growing economy instead of remaining in a dead state with limited opportunities and bishing about how unfair it is?

or start your own business?

Um. No one said anything was unfair.

Buy or lease a little hole in the wall and start an eating/drinking establishment as the silent owner. Hire a GM to deal with the public and staff.

No one works under you is the point. You’re lying about being management. It’s cool though. What was the conclusion of your last job hunting thread ?

your current employer is treating really well now and values your skillset?

Mine is kind of a toxic place to work, yes.

What year did the OP put the last job search/ID thread? Seems like an attention seeker/ woe is me chick.