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This was posted elsewhere but it deserves its own thread.

Sycamore is just as duplicitous and deceptive as any left winger that I've ever encountered.

In the article from Newsweek that he posted,he conveniently cut off the last six paragraphs to intentionally deceive the members.

This is the end of the article from Newsweek that is so conspicuously missing from Sycamore's post.



The additional police forces are also requested by the Secret Service, which campaign teams argue should foot the bill for the security measures.

Secret Service spokesman Jeffrey Adams told Center for Public Integrity that the agency is not funded to reimburse local police, adding that "we don't have a mechanism to do so."

This is not just an issue with Trump either. Several presidential candidates' campaign teams, including Barack Obama and Hilary Clinton's, have also not paid local governments for providing additional police down the years.

Celestine Jeffreys, the chief of staff for Eric Genrich, mayor for the Wisconsin city of Green Bay who are owned $9,380 for a Trump rally in August 2016, confirmed to Newsweek: "To date, the City of Green Bay has yet to receive reimbursement from either the Trump or Clinton campaign for 2016 expenses."

Another issue that the legal costs of pursuing the outstanding debt from Trump's campaign team would often be more than what they are owed.

El Paso attorney City Attorney Karla Nieman previously confirmed they would not be filing a lawsuit in order to help get the $569,000 back and instead "continue to explore various options."


https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbt...rallies-in-ohio-and-florida#Post16179460

Originally Posted by Sycamore
https://www.newsweek.com/trump-campaign-rally-debt-elpaso-albuquerque-1550737

Trump Set to Leave Office with at Least $850,000 of Unpaid Campaign Rally Bills

With just weeks until his presidency ends, several cities across the U.S. are still owed payments from Donald Trump's campaign for rallies he held, totaling hundreds of thousands of dollars.

The Texas city of El Paso said this week that they will be hiring outside legal counsel as part of their fight to obtain more than $500,000 from Trump's team to cover the security and other costs from a rally held there in February 2019.

The outstanding debt includes $470,000 in additional services provided by the local police and fire departments, as well as an additional $99,000 in late fees.


Last year, the Center for Public Integrity included El Paso among a list of 10 cities still waiting for payment from the Trump campaign team for rallies as far back as 2016.


A number of city officials have now confirmed to Newsweek that they have still not received the money that they invoiced, with some accepting that it may never arrive.

The debts range from just a few thousands dollars to more than $200,000 in Albuquerque, with El Paso owed the most of them all.


The city of Burlington, Vermont, confirmed that Trump's team still has not paid the $8,464.27 amount they are owed from a campaign rally he held there in January 2016 before he was elected president.

"Mr Trump's failure to cooperate with local law enforcement officials and lack of communication with the public and ticketholders put undue strain on the City's police, and unnecessarily hurt downtown businesses," Burlington Mayor Miro Weinberger said in June 2016.


"Paying the invoice remains the right and honorable thing for Mr Trump to do."

Nearly five years later, the city still has not received the money.

"The Trump campaign has not paid the invoices. Our Police and Fire Departments did check in at the time after a month of non-payment had lapsed," Jordan Redell, spokesman for Mayor Weinberger, told Newsweek. "Beyond that point, the City concluded that it would not be cost effective to pursue collections remedies."

One of the main issues surrounding cities asking for payments for campaign rallies is that unless a contract is signed from both sides, there is no legal requirement for political committees to pay for security costs.

The cities dispatch additional police officers and other measures on their own accord for safety reasons as a duty for the public, with Trump's rallies sometimes bringing in tens of thousands of supporters to areas with relatively small populations.


Typical lib/commie attempt at misinformation.
Shocked! A democrat that lies? Is that some kind of oddity or what?
nothing like a good ol douchebag leftists to be selective in what they want in their messages.
Sycamore has always been a dishonest disingenuous lying douche bag.

In other words a Fuqktard!
Y’all keep feeding the troll. Put him on ignore And then, just ignore him. Not rocket science.
caught lying again?
Syc the dickhead doin what Democrats do. What a dick.
Kingston loves Sycamore.

Say he smarter than Fubarski.

LOL
RTE,

Speaking of duplicitous, you conveniently left off my answer to your post. Or was that an accident?

Originally Posted by rte
Sycamore is just as duplicitous and deceptive as any left winger that I've ever encountered.

In the article from Newsweek that he posted,he conveniently cut off the last six paragraphs to intentionally deceive the members.

This is the end of the article from Newsweek that is so conspicuously missing from Sycamore's post.



The additional police forces are also requested by the Secret Service, which campaign teams argue should foot the bill for the security measures.

Secret Service spokesman Jeffrey Adams told Center for Public Integrity that the agency is not funded to reimburse local police, adding that "we don't have a mechanism to do so."

This is not just an issue with Trump either. Several presidential candidates' campaign teams, including Barack Obama and Hilary Clinton's, have also not paid local governments for providing additional police down the years.

Celestine Jeffreys, the chief of staff for Eric Genrich, mayor for the Wisconsin city of Green Bay who are owned $9,380 for a Trump rally in August 2016, confirmed to Newsweek: "To date, the City of Green Bay has yet to receive reimbursement from either the Trump or Clinton campaign for 2016 expenses."

Another issue that the legal costs of pursuing the outstanding debt from Trump's campaign team would often be more than what they are owed.

El Paso attorney City Attorney Karla Nieman previously confirmed they would not be filing a lawsuit in order to help get the $569,000 back and instead "continue to explore various options."


https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbt...rallies-in-ohio-and-florida#Post16179460

Originally Posted by Sycamore
https://www.newsweek.com/trump-campaign-rally-debt-elpaso-albuquerque-1550737

Trump Set to Leave Office with at Least $850,000 of Unpaid Campaign Rally Bills

With just weeks until his presidency ends, several cities across the U.S. are still owed payments from Donald Trump's campaign for rallies he held, totaling hundreds of thousands of dollars.

The Texas city of El Paso said this week that they will be hiring outside legal counsel as part of their fight to obtain more than $500,000 from Trump's team to cover the security and other costs from a rally held there in February 2019.

The outstanding debt includes $470,000 in additional services provided by the local police and fire departments, as well as an additional $99,000 in late fees.


Last year, the Center for Public Integrity included El Paso among a list of 10 cities still waiting for payment from the Trump campaign team for rallies as far back as 2016.


A number of city officials have now confirmed to Newsweek that they have still not received the money that they invoiced, with some accepting that it may never arrive.

The debts range from just a few thousands dollars to more than $200,000 in Albuquerque, with El Paso owed the most of them all.


The city of Burlington, Vermont, confirmed that Trump's team still has not paid the $8,464.27 amount they are owed from a campaign rally he held there in January 2016 before he was elected president.

"Mr Trump's failure to cooperate with local law enforcement officials and lack of communication with the public and ticketholders put undue strain on the City's police, and unnecessarily hurt downtown businesses," Burlington Mayor Miro Weinberger said in June 2016.


"Paying the invoice remains the right and honorable thing for Mr Trump to do."

Nearly five years later, the city still has not received the money.

"The Trump campaign has not paid the invoices. Our Police and Fire Departments did check in at the time after a month of non-payment had lapsed," Jordan Redell, spokesman for Mayor Weinberger, told Newsweek. "Beyond that point, the City concluded that it would not be cost effective to pursue collections remedies."

One of the main issues surrounding cities asking for payments for campaign rallies is that unless a contract is signed from both sides, there is no legal requirement for political committees to pay for security costs.

The cities dispatch additional police officers and other measures on their own accord for safety reasons as a duty for the public, with Trump's rallies sometimes bringing in tens of thousands of supporters to areas with relatively small populations.






RTE,

it was not my intent to cut off the end of the article, I just copied and pasted the top of it. As you read the entire article (which few people do), you realize it was full of ads, that were a PITA to crop out.

If I intended to deceive, I would not have posted the link.

I appreciate the fact that you did read the entire article.

I personally wouldn't trust Obama or Clintons campaigns to pay their bills either. thus the warning, "get the money up front"
Originally Posted by deflave
Kingston loves Sycamore.

Say he smarter than Fubarski.

LOL


Florida Man, so glad your wife let you use your telephone again.
Originally Posted by 12344mag
Sycamore has always been a dishonest disingenuous lying douche bag.

In other words a Fuqktard!


another grumpy old b@st@rd from the Upper MidWest? Say it ain't so!

well in the first place, no one should be reading the article or whatever here. Follow the link, and don't be made a sucker. Secondly, anyone that keep up with Sycamore, instead of keeping his troll azz on ignore, deserves to be bamboozled.
Originally Posted by Sycamore
Originally Posted by 12344mag
Sycamore has always been a dishonest disingenuous lying douche bag.

In other words a Fuqktard!


another grumpy old b@st@rd from the Upper MidWest? Say it ain't so!


You can spell Bastard on here Dumfuk.

Sure I'm grumpy sometimes but I'm never a dishonest disingenuous lying douche bag.

Most now have you figured out Syc, You lose.
Originally Posted by Sycamore
RTE,
Speaking of duplicitous, you conveniently left off my answer to your post. Or was that an accident?

If any member takes the time to look at the time stamp they will discover that you answered his original post only after he created this thread and called you out.Your excuse appears quite feeble when you claimed it was a mistake,given your past actions.
https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbt...rallies-in-ohio-and-florida#Post16180772

So who is the duplicitous ass-hole now?

Originally Posted by Mannlicher
well in the first place, no one should be reading the article or whatever here. Follow the link, and don't be made a sucker. Secondly, anyone that keep up with Sycamore, instead of keeping his troll azz on ignore, deserves to be bamboozled.

It's amazing that you make comments even though you understand nothing of what has been posted.No one was bamboozled and that's rte's point.He caught Sycamore selectively editing his original story,where he falsely claimed that President Trump didn't pay some costs associated with his campaign.He conveniently left out the fact that Obama and Clinton didn't pay as well.
Sycamore = POS .i.e, wart.
Originally Posted by Sycamore
Originally Posted by deflave
Kingston loves Sycamore.

Say he smarter than Fubarski.

LOL


Florida Man, so glad your wife let you use your telephone again.


You gonna make it to the SW rendezvous this year?
Originally Posted by 12344mag
Originally Posted by Sycamore
Originally Posted by 12344mag
Sycamore has always been a dishonest disingenuous lying douche bag.

In other words a Fuqktard!


another grumpy old b@st@rd from the Upper MidWest? Say it ain't so!


You can spell Bastard on here Dumfuk.

Sure I'm grumpy sometimes but I'm never a dishonest disingenuous lying douche bag.

Most now have you figured out Syc, You lose.
Hahaha..Thank you, Paul, finally and in a small way.thanks to me.

Well, he loved lying about me saying i was a nurse for 3 years and some wondered why i started exposing him.

Some here have the opinion that if a liar is lying about someone else and doesnt involve them they dont pass judgenent.
A liar is a liar, plain and simple and the lieberals and dimocraps would rather lie on credit than tell the truth for cash.
HE says he does not abide in a liar and a liar will not enter into the Kingdom (i expect because they ate lieberal scum).
Originally Posted by sportingspecialist
Originally Posted by Sycamore
RTE,
Speaking of duplicitous, you conveniently left off my answer to your post. Or was that an accident?

If any member takes the time to look at the time stamp they will discover that you answered his original post only after he created this thread and called you out.Your excuse appears quite feeble when you claimed it was a mistake,given your past actions.
https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbt...rallies-in-ohio-and-florida#Post16180772

So who is the duplicitous ass-hole now?

Originally Posted by Mannlicher
well in the first place, no one should be reading the article or whatever here. Follow the link, and don't be made a sucker. Secondly, anyone that keep up with Sycamore, instead of keeping his troll azz on ignore, deserves to be bamboozled.

It's amazing that you make comments even though you understand nothing of what has been posted.No one was bamboozled and that's rte's point.He caught Sycamore selectively editing his original story,where he falsely claimed that President Trump didn't pay some costs associated with his campaign.He conveniently left out the fact that Obama and Clinton didn't pay as well.


SS,

I did not check time stamp, so I did not realize that. either way, my answer now stands on both threads.

You are wrong to say I falsely claimed Trump did not pay his bills. He is famous for that. Saying that Trumop is morally equivalent to Obama and Clinton doesn't seem like much of an endorsement, is that really what you are trying to say?
Kamala killing it.

LOL
Originally Posted by jaguartx
Originally Posted by 12344mag
Originally Posted by Sycamore
Originally Posted by 12344mag
Sycamore has always been a dishonest disingenuous lying douche bag.

In other words a Fuqktard!


another grumpy old b@st@rd from the Upper MidWest? Say it ain't so!


You can spell Bastard on here Dumfuk.

Sure I'm grumpy sometimes but I'm never a dishonest disingenuous lying douche bag.

Most now have you figured out Syc, You lose.
Hahaha..Thank you, Paul, finally and in a small way.thanks to me.

Well, he loved lying about me saying i was a nurse for 3 years and some wondered why i started exposing him.

Some here have the opinion that if a liar is lying about someone else and doesnt involve them they dont pass judgenent.
A liar is a liar, plain and simple and the lieberals and dimocraps would rather lie on credit than tell the truth for cash.
HE says he does not abide in a liar and a liar will not enter into the Kingdom (i expect because they ate lieberal scum).


I don't believe I ever said you were a nurse, I said several times you were too dumb to be a nurse. I figured you for a phlebotomist, but then I realized that was giving you too much credit.

I think I finally settled on you being an orderly, if you were employed in the health professions at all.

p/s did you ever buy that Uranium mine you were bitching about?
Originally Posted by Sycamore
Originally Posted by sportingspecialist
Originally Posted by Sycamore
RTE,
Speaking of duplicitous, you conveniently left off my answer to your post. Or was that an accident?

If any member takes the time to look at the time stamp they will discover that you answered his original post only after he created this thread and called you out.Your excuse appears quite feeble when you claimed it was a mistake,given your past actions.
https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbt...rallies-in-ohio-and-florida#Post16180772

So who is the duplicitous ass-hole now?

Originally Posted by Mannlicher
well in the first place, no one should be reading the article or whatever here. Follow the link, and don't be made a sucker. Secondly, anyone that keep up with Sycamore, instead of keeping his troll azz on ignore, deserves to be bamboozled.

It's amazing that you make comments even though you understand nothing of what has been posted.No one was bamboozled and that's rte's point.He caught Sycamore selectively editing his original story,where he falsely claimed that President Trump didn't pay some costs associated with his campaign.He conveniently left out the fact that Obama and Clinton didn't pay as well.


SS,

I did not check time stamp, so I did not realize that. either way, my answer now stands on both threads.

You are wrong to say I falsely claimed Trump did not pay his bills. He is famous for that. Saying that Trumop is morally equivalent to Obama and Clinton doesn't seem like much of an endorsement, is that really what you are trying to say?

I worked two Obama details with my K9 (both complete debacles thanks to the Secret Service). He was 50% on paying his bills for those.
The one Trump campaign detail I worked , he paid the jurisdiction, but I worked that one for 'free'so it was irrelevant to me.
Originally Posted by Sycamore
SS,
I did not check time stamp, so I did not realize that. either way, my answer now stands on both threads.
You are wrong to say I falsely claimed Trump did not pay his bills. He is famous for that. Saying that Trumop is morally equivalent to Obama and Clinton doesn't seem like much of an endorsement, is that really what you are trying to say?


"You are wrong to say I falsely claimed Trump did not pay his bills."

That's exactly what you posted.
Trump Set to Leave Office with at Least $850,000 of Unpaid Campaign Rally Bills


"He is famous for that."

Only fake news has made those false claims.No credible sources has made or verified such nonsense.



"Saying that Trumop is morally equivalent to Obama and Clinton doesn't seem like much of an endorsement, is that really what you are trying to say?"

Emphatically NOT.

President Trump is morally superior to either the pathological lying/narcissistic/crack smoking/ Communist/Muslim/homosexual or the Luciferian/lesbian/pedophile.






Sycamore also likes to jump up and down when ammo shortages end due to a man being elected.

LOL

Hypocritical bitch.
Originally Posted by Sycamore
Originally Posted by sportingspecialist
Originally Posted by Sycamore
RTE,
Speaking of duplicitous, you conveniently left off my answer to your post. Or was that an accident?

If any member takes the time to look at the time stamp they will discover that you answered his original post only after he created this thread and called you out.Your excuse appears quite feeble when you claimed it was a mistake,given your past actions.
https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbt...rallies-in-ohio-and-florida#Post16180772

So who is the duplicitous ass-hole now?

Originally Posted by Mannlicher
well in the first place, no one should be reading the article or whatever here. Follow the link, and don't be made a sucker. Secondly, anyone that keep up with Sycamore, instead of keeping his troll azz on ignore, deserves to be bamboozled.

It's amazing that you make comments even though you understand nothing of what has been posted.No one was bamboozled and that's rte's point.He caught Sycamore selectively editing his original story,where he falsely claimed that President Trump didn't pay some costs associated with his campaign.He conveniently left out the fact that Obama and Clinton didn't pay as well.


SS,

I did not check time stamp, so I did not realize that. either way, my answer now stands on both threads.

You are wrong to say I falsely claimed Trump did not pay his bills. He is famous for that. Saying that Trumop is morally equivalent to Obama and Clinton doesn't seem like much of an endorsement, is that really what you are trying to say?



Good to see you doubling down on Lying Douche bag.
Originally Posted by Sycamore
Originally Posted by jaguartx
Originally Posted by 12344mag
Originally Posted by Sycamore
Originally Posted by 12344mag
Sycamore has always been a dishonest disingenuous lying douche bag.

In other words a Fuqktard!


another grumpy old b@st@rd from the Upper MidWest? Say it ain't so!


You can spell Bastard on here Dumfuk.

Sure I'm grumpy sometimes but I'm never a dishonest disingenuous lying douche bag.

Most now have you figured out Syc, You lose.
Hahaha..Thank you, Paul, finally and in a small way.thanks to me.

Well, he loved lying about me saying i was a nurse for 3 years and some wondered why i started exposing him.

Some here have the opinion that if a liar is lying about someone else and doesnt involve them they dont pass judgenent.
A liar is a liar, plain and simple and the lieberals and dimocraps would rather lie on credit than tell the truth for cash.
HE says he does not abide in a liar and a liar will not enter into the Kingdom (i expect because they ate lieberal scum).


I don't believe I ever said you were a nurse, I said several times you were too dumb to be a nurse. I figured you for a phlebotomist, but then I realized that was giving you too much credit.

I think I finally settled on you being an orderly, if you were employed in the health professions at all.

p/s did you ever buy that Uranium mine you were bitching about?


You really don't want to go discussing Uranium mines now do you?
Originally Posted by jaguartx
Hahaha..Thank you, Paul,
wink
Originally Posted by sportingspecialist
Originally Posted by Sycamore
SS,
I did not check time stamp, so I did not realize that. either way, my answer now stands on both threads.
You are wrong to say I falsely claimed Trump did not pay his bills. He is famous for that. Saying that Trumop is morally equivalent to Obama and Clinton doesn't seem like much of an endorsement, is that really what you are trying to say?


"You are wrong to say I falsely claimed Trump did not pay his bills."

That's exactly what you posted.
Trump Set to Leave Office with at Least $850,000 of Unpaid Campaign Rally Bills


"He is famous for that."

Only fake news has made those false claims.No credible sources has made or verified such nonsense.



"Saying that Trumop is morally equivalent to Obama and Clinton doesn't seem like much of an endorsement, is that really what you are trying to say?"

Emphatically NOT.

President Trump is morally superior to either the pathological lying/narcissistic/crack smoking/ Communist/Muslim/homosexual or the Luciferian/lesbian/pedophile.








You are wrong that it is a false claim, not that I said it.

check this from 2 months ago

Originally Posted by Kelsey Vlamis Apr 24, 2021, 3:08 AM
Trump's campaign still hasn't paid a $211,000 bill from the city of Albuquerque. Now debt collectors are calling Mar-a-Lago, mayor says.
Originally Posted by sportingspecialist
Originally Posted by Sycamore
SS,
I did not check time stamp, so I did not realize that. either way, my answer now stands on both threads.
You are wrong to say I falsely claimed Trump did not pay his bills. He is famous for that. Saying that Trumop is morally equivalent to Obama and Clinton doesn't seem like much of an endorsement, is that really what you are trying to say?


"You are wrong to say I falsely claimed Trump did not pay his bills."

That's exactly what you posted.
Trump Set to Leave Office with at Least $850,000 of Unpaid Campaign Rally Bills


"He is famous for that."

Only fake news has made those false claims.No credible sources has made or verified such nonsense.



"Saying that Trumop is morally equivalent to Obama and Clinton doesn't seem like much of an endorsement, is that really what you are trying to say?"

Emphatically NOT.

President Trump is morally superior to either the pathological lying/narcissistic/crack smoking/ Communist/Muslim/homosexual or the Luciferian/lesbian/pedophile.








I can address the "did not pay his bills" allegation, as I used to work at two of the law firms Trump used for his real estate deals. It's basically true.

Here's the caveat: EVERYONE in the business does this, especially in NYC. Not in all practices, of course. For M&A and Securities work, clients generally pay their bills in full and on time (sorta). In other practices, it's expected that the clients will refuse to pay the bill until its discounted, even if everything was done exactly as it should have been done. Insurance and labor law are notorious for this, and it's why the lawyers in those areas get paid less when they are at large firms.

In Real Estate, I'd guess that 75% of clients refused to pay until there was a hefty discount applied.

The way it was explained to me by a partner at a firm that represented The Related Companies (google it if you have to) is that it not only is a tradition (for developers to stiff law firms), it is part of the dealmaking process. A big developer like Trump, Kushner or the Related group will have many development projects going on at once and any law firm that can latch on to those deals will do whatever it takes to keep being selected by the developer for future deals.

Further, the politics at a law firm require lawyers to have somewhat uniform "list" prices for hourly rates, even if the economics of differing practices otherwise justify different rates.

So, to date myself, a "rate card" for a law firm will probably show a breakdown of rates by attorney experience. A junior level associate will show a rate of, for example, $500 an hour, and it usually is (or was) without regard to which practice group the junior associate was in. Same thing with mid level associates, all the way to senior partners. You want a partner, you pay $1000 an hour without regard to the practice area.

The reality, though, is that firms always discount rates for good clients and the discounts are based on various factors. Using me, as an example, I focused on IPOs early in my career, representing issuers (rather than the underwriters) and it was often the case that once a company went public, they wouldn't need IPO lawyers again. So if the firm didn't have an SEC reporting practice that the client would use on a regular basis, the IPO client would get no discount at all since there would be no recurring business. An SEC reporting client, on the other hand, always got discounts because that work was recurring and lucrative over time.

SO, with real estate lawyers, the rate cards were usually about 50% more than the actual paid rates. It's all because of the kabuki dance that goes on over recurring business.

Trump was a very tough negotiator. He'd want to negotiate every penny billed to him, and he was not unusual in this regard. He happened to be pretty successful at getting bills reduced simply because he had a wide range of business that he could bring to a law firm and the firms were anxious to please him.

Anyone in real estate who paid their bills in full and on time was a sucker. NO real developer was naïve enough to pay on time and in full.
Originally Posted by 12344mag

You really don't want to go discussing Uranium mines now do you?


I think I could keep up on the topic with all but about 5 or 6 members on the Campfire, and most of those 5 or 6 don't post much at all.
sporting specialist
Quote
It's amazing that you make comments even though you understand nothing of what has been posted.No one was bamboozled and that's rte's point.He caught Sycamore selectively editing his original story,where he falsely claimed that President Trump didn't pay some costs associated with his campaign.He conveniently left out the fact that Obama and Clinton didn't pay as well.

you are making more of that than was warranted, but it looks like you are still Sycamore's little bitch, in that you just can't get enough of his needling you.
Originally Posted by deflave
Kingston loves Sycamore.

Say he smarter than Fubarski.

LOL


I don't know about that.


Florida Man, so glad your wife let you use your telephone again.
[/quote]

You gonna make it to the SW rendezvous this year?[/quote]

Fuggg no he ain't goin, he'll get his puck dumocrat ass whooped. You know better.
Originally Posted by Mannlicher
sporting specialist
Quote
It's amazing that you make comments even though you understand nothing of what has been posted.No one was bamboozled and that's rte's point.He caught Sycamore selectively editing his original story,where he falsely claimed that President Trump didn't pay some costs associated with his campaign.He conveniently left out the fact that Obama and Clinton didn't pay as well.

you are making more of that than was warranted, but it looks like you are still Sycamore's little bitch, in that you just can't get enough of his needling you.


Dang SS, which is it?

Falsely claimed Trump didn't pay, or Obama and Hilary didn't pay as well?

It's pretty well established that Trump didn't pay his bills, now claiming to be the moral equivalent of Obama and Clinton is NOT a good look!
Originally Posted by Sycamore
Originally Posted by 12344mag

You really don't want to go discussing Uranium mines now do you?


I think I could keep up on the topic with all but about 5 or 6 members on the Campfire, and most of those 5 or 6 don't post much at all.






I caught you being disingenuous on that one too.
Originally Posted by 12344mag
Originally Posted by Sycamore
Originally Posted by 12344mag

You really don't want to go discussing Uranium mines now do you?


I think I could keep up on the topic with all but about 5 or 6 members on the Campfire, and most of those 5 or 6 don't post much at all.






I caught you being disingenuous on that one too.


you're either mistaken, or a liar.

(you are not one of the 5 or 6 that could keep up with me on the topic, either)
It's fun to watch your lying ass back peddle.
Originally Posted by 12344mag
It's fun to watch your lying ass back peddle.


post up anything I've posted on uranium that's not true, or be a liar.

you're the backpedaler.
Originally Posted by Skankhunt42


Florida Man, so glad your wife let you use your telephone again.


You gonna make it to the SW rendezvous this year?[/quote]

Fuggg no he ain't goin, he'll get his puck dumocrat ass whooped. You know better.[/quote]


You going?
Originally Posted by Mannlicher
sporting specialist
Quote
It's amazing that you make comments even though you understand nothing of what has been posted.No one was bamboozled and that's rte's point.He caught Sycamore selectively editing his original story,where he falsely claimed that President Trump didn't pay some costs associated with his campaign.He conveniently left out the fact that Obama and Clinton didn't pay as well.

you are making more of that than was warranted, but it looks like you are still Sycamore's little bitch, in that you just can't get enough of his needling you.


Ownership ain’t a easy task. Lots of responsibilities and expectations involved.
Grins
Originally Posted by Sycamore
Originally Posted by 12344mag
It's fun to watch your lying ass back peddle.


post up anything I've posted on uranium that's not true, or be a liar.

you're the backpedaler.



My, what a short memory you have Syc.

You've been back peddling this whole tread.

Lol.
Without fake news, there often is no news.

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=rupar
Originally Posted by Remsen
Originally Posted by sportingspecialist
Originally Posted by Sycamore
SS,
I did not check time stamp, so I did not realize that. either way, my answer now stands on both threads.
You are wrong to say I falsely claimed Trump did not pay his bills. He is famous for that. Saying that Trumop is morally equivalent to Obama and Clinton doesn't seem like much of an endorsement, is that really what you are trying to say?


"You are wrong to say I falsely claimed Trump did not pay his bills."

That's exactly what you posted.
Trump Set to Leave Office with at Least $850,000 of Unpaid Campaign Rally Bills


"He is famous for that."

Only fake news has made those false claims.No credible sources has made or verified such nonsense.



"Saying that Trumop is morally equivalent to Obama and Clinton doesn't seem like much of an endorsement, is that really what you are trying to say?"

Emphatically NOT.

President Trump is morally superior to either the pathological lying/narcissistic/crack smoking/ Communist/Muslim/homosexual or the Luciferian/lesbian/pedophile.








I can address the "did not pay his bills" allegation, as I used to work at two of the law firms Trump used for his real estate deals. It's basically true.

Here's the caveat: EVERYONE in the business does this, especially in NYC. Not in all practices, of course. For M&A and Securities work, clients generally pay their bills in full and on time (sorta). In other practices, it's expected that the clients will refuse to pay the bill until its discounted, even if everything was done exactly as it should have been done. Insurance and labor law are notorious for this, and it's why the lawyers in those areas get paid less when they are at large firms.

In Real Estate, I'd guess that 75% of clients refused to pay until there was a hefty discount applied.

The way it was explained to me by a partner at a firm that represented The Related Companies (google it if you have to) is that it not only is a tradition (for developers to stiff law firms), it is part of the dealmaking process. A big developer like Trump, Kushner or the Related group will have many development projects going on at once and any law firm that can latch on to those deals will do whatever it takes to keep being selected by the developer for future deals.

Further, the politics at a law firm require lawyers to have somewhat uniform "list" prices for hourly rates, even if the economics of differing practices otherwise justify different rates.

So, to date myself, a "rate card" for a law firm will probably show a breakdown of rates by attorney experience. A junior level associate will show a rate of, for example, $500 an hour, and it usually is (or was) without regard to which practice group the junior associate was in. Same thing with mid level associates, all the way to senior partners. You want a partner, you pay $1000 an hour without regard to the practice area.

The reality, though, is that firms always discount rates for good clients and the discounts are based on various factors. Using me, as an example, I focused on IPOs early in my career, representing issuers (rather than the underwriters) and it was often the case that once a company went public, they wouldn't need IPO lawyers again. So if the firm didn't have an SEC reporting practice that the client would use on a regular basis, the IPO client would get no discount at all since there would be no recurring business. An SEC reporting client, on the other hand, always got discounts because that work was recurring and lucrative over time.

SO, with real estate lawyers, the rate cards were usually about 50% more than the actual paid rates. It's all because of the kabuki dance that goes on over recurring business.

Trump was a very tough negotiator. He'd want to negotiate every penny billed to him, and he was not unusual in this regard. He happened to be pretty successful at getting bills reduced simply because he had a wide range of business that he could bring to a law firm and the firms were anxious to please him.

Anyone in real estate who paid their bills in full and on time was a sucker. NO real developer was naïve enough to pay on time and in full.


I believe Big Stick said it best:

“Reality ain’t for everybody.”

LOL

Happy Juneteenth my big nosed friend.
Originally Posted by Skankhunt42
Originally Posted by deflave
Kingston loves Sycamore.

Say he smarter than Fubarski.

LOL


I don't know about that.


I can dig up the quotes if I must.

LOL
Originally Posted by Old_Toot



You going?


Old Coot say he’s hunted with other Campfire members.

LOL
Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by Old_Toot



You going?


Old Coot say he’s hunted with other Campfire members.

LOL


The great pretender drunkard Flave ‘say’ many things.
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by Old_Toot



You going?


Old Coot say he’s hunted with other Campfire members.

LOL


The great pretender drunkard Flave ‘say’ many things.


No you said that.

I just asked which ones.

Then you gone silent.

LOL
Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by Old_Toot



You going?


Old Coot say he’s hunted with other Campfire members.

LOL


The great pretender drunkard Flave ‘say’ many things.


No you said that.

I just asked which ones.

Then you gone silent.

LOL


Hardly silent.
Doesn’t change your being the great pretender drunkard.
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by Old_Toot



You going?


Old Coot say he’s hunted with other Campfire members.

LOL


The great pretender drunkard Flave ‘say’ many things.


No you said that.

I just asked which ones.

Then you gone silent.

LOL


Hardly silent.
Doesn’t change your being the great pretender drunkard.


Oh my bad.

Who did you hunt with from this site?
Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by Old_Toot



You going?


Old Coot say he’s hunted with other Campfire members.

LOL


The great pretender drunkard Flave ‘say’ many things.


No you said that.

I just asked which ones.

Then you gone silent.

LOL


Hardly silent.
Doesn’t change your being the great pretender drunkard.


Oh my bad.

Who did you hunt with from this site?


They can speak for themselves if they care to.
Go easy on Suckermore. He thought that was what lying.lieberal commies were supposed to do,and get paid for it..
Originally Posted by 12344mag
Originally Posted by Sycamore
Originally Posted by 12344mag
It's fun to watch your lying ass back peddle.


post up anything I've posted on uranium that's not true, or be a liar.

you're the backpedaler.



My, what a short memory you have Syc.

You've been back peddling this whole tread.

Lol.


I figured you were too lazy to look for it, but I can tell you its not there.

You can continue to lie about it, but that just makes you more of a liar.
Originally Posted by jaguartx
Go easy on Suckermore. He thought that was what lying.lieberal commies were supposed to do,and get paid for it..


Jaguartx is not a liar, as far as I can tell, just kinda of dumb all the time, and kinda drunk some of the time.

But he may prove me wrong yet ( on the lying part)
Originally Posted by Sycamore
Originally Posted by jaguartx
Go easy on Suckermore. He thought that was what lying.lieberal commies were supposed to do,and get paid for it..


Jaguartx is not a liar, as far as I can tell, just kinda of dumb all the time, and kinda drunk some of the time.

But he may prove me wrong yet ( on the lying part)


You fugk tards all have the same mantra.

LOL
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by Old_Toot



You going?


Old Coot say he’s hunted with other Campfire members.

LOL


The great pretender drunkard Flave ‘say’ many things.


No you said that.

I just asked which ones.

Then you gone silent.

LOL


Hardly silent.
Doesn’t change your being the great pretender drunkard.


Oh my bad.

Who did you hunt with from this site?


They can speak for themselves if they care to.


LOL

They must have realized what a fugk tard you are.
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by Old_Toot



You going?


Old Coot say he’s hunted with other Campfire members.

LOL


The great pretender drunkard Flave ‘say’ many things.


No you said that.

I just asked which ones.

Then you gone silent.

LOL


Hardly silent.
Doesn’t change your being the great pretender drunkard.

The flavor is a real drunkard.
Sycamore on his way to the SW rendezvous.

LOL
Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by Old_Toot



You going?


Old Coot say he’s hunted with other Campfire members.

LOL


The great pretender drunkard Flave ‘say’ many things.


No you said that.

I just asked which ones.

Then you gone silent.

LOL


Hardly silent.
Doesn’t change your being the great pretender drunkard.


Oh my bad.

Who did you hunt with from this site?


They can speak for themselves if they care to.


LOL

They must have realized what a fugk tard you are.



Quite possibly.

Or they most likely don’t want to engage in stupid conversations with an obnoxious drunkard who has multiple ego issues. There is that to consider.
Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by Sycamore
Originally Posted by jaguartx
Go easy on Suckermore. He thought that was what lying.lieberal commies were supposed to do,and get paid for it..


Jaguartx is not a liar, as far as I can tell, just kinda of dumb all the time, and kinda drunk some of the time.

But he may prove me wrong yet ( on the lying part)


You fugk tards all have the same mantra.

LOL



As do weakling, character flawed drunkards.
We can’t all be a tough guy like you.

LOL
Remember when Old Toot thought just because he had a fishing buddy , he was not a Covtard

LMAO

Where’s my mask ? LMAO
Liberals lie. It's just that simple.
You only “needed” to post to part of the article that attacked Trump and that’s why you didn’t post the whole article.
Originally Posted by Old_Toot



Quite possibly.

Or they most likely don’t want to engage in stupid conversations with an obnoxious drunkard who has multiple ego issues. There is that to consider.


This coming from the guy that reads my every post.

LOL
Originally Posted by ConradCA
You only “needed” to post to part of the article that attacked Trump and that’s why you didn’t post the whole article.


I posted the link to the whole article. There's no need to attack Trump. Just stating the facts. If you feel threatened by the facts, re-evaluate your understanding of the situation.

the funniest part of the whole discussion is that the second part of the article, which so many on here claimed to want to read, shows that Trumps morals and trustworthiness are on par with Obamas and Clintons.

Not a ringing endorsement in my book.
Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by Old_Toot



Quite possibly.

Or they most likely don’t want to engage in stupid conversations with an obnoxious drunkard who has multiple ego issues. There is that to consider.


This coming from the guy that reads my every post.

LOL


Wrong again.
Originally Posted by BobBrown
Remember when Old Toot thought just because he had a fishing buddy , he was not a Covtard

LMAO

Where’s my mask ? LMAO


Wash your sock.
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by Old_Toot



Quite possibly.

Or they most likely don’t want to engage in stupid conversations with an obnoxious drunkard who has multiple ego issues. There is that to consider.


This coming from the guy that reads my every post.

LOL


Wrong again.


Why haven’t you gotten your shot?
Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by Old_Toot



Quite possibly.

Or they most likely don’t want to engage in stupid conversations with an obnoxious drunkard who has multiple ego issues. There is that to consider.


This coming from the guy that reads my every post.

LOL


Wrong again.


Why haven’t you gotten your shot?



Needles scare me.

Happy Fathers Day, mr. mom.
Go get the clothes off of the clothes line.
Originally Posted by Old_Toot



Needles scare me.

Happy Fathers Day, mr. mom.
Go get the clothes off of the clothes line.


Translation:

“Flave was right all along and I can’t admit.”

LOL

Hang a pic of you and your kids today.
Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by Sycamore
Originally Posted by jaguartx
Go easy on Suckermore. He thought that was what lying.lieberal commies were supposed to do,and get paid for it..


Jaguartx is not a liar, as far as I can tell, just kinda of dumb all the time, and kinda drunk some of the time.

But he may prove me wrong yet ( on the lying part)


You fugk tards all have the same mantra.

LOL


Every fuqking one of them.
Originally Posted by Sycamore
I figured you were too lazy to look for it, but I can tell you its not there.

You can continue to lie about it, but that just makes you more of a liar.


Guess what, you don't get to dictate what i do and don't do, If you're so interested in finding it go look for it. One thing you aren't is stupid but you sure do like to act like it sometimes.

I'll give you a clue, it was a thread about Uranium 1, and that it was a Canadian Company and therefore no US Uranium was sold to the Russians.

Have fun!
and it was French company before it was a Canadian company. and the "mines" in the US were a tiny part of the deal and insignificant part of the uranium. that changed hands in the deal. mostly in Kyrgyzstan.

what ever in the hell the Canadian guy paid the Clintons for, it wasn't the schitty amount of Uranium in Wyoming in that deal.

that mine is been shutdown for a while....

I'm still trying to get JaguarTX to buy it back from the Russians, but apparently he lacks the patriotism, or the dinero.

Maybe you could help him out.

Or get off your ass and look up the post and find out what I really said, not what you think you remember.

Or continue to be a liar, because you are too lazy to check.
Sycamore sugks dick for Cocaine


Once

LMAO
Originally Posted by Sycamore
Originally Posted by ConradCA
You only “needed” to post to part of the article that attacked Trump and that’s why you didn’t post the whole article.


I posted the link to the whole article. There's no need to attack Trump. Just stating the facts. If you feel threatened by the facts, re-evaluate your understanding of the situation.

the funniest part of the whole discussion is that the second part of the article, which so many on here claimed to want to read, shows that Trumps morals and trustworthiness are on par with Obamas and Clintons.

Not a ringing endorsement in my book.




please provide a detailed account of your hero MCCain's morals. lmao. Russia Russia Russia
you're such a clown pretending to be an expert on an area of the world you have zero education or first hand knowledge, Stick to rural backward Arizona and MCCain lol

Originally Posted by Sycamore
and it was French company before it was a Canadian company. and the "mines" in the US were a tiny part of the deal and insignificant part of the uranium. that changed hands in the deal. mostly in Kyrgyzstan.

what ever in the hell the Canadian guy paid the Clintons for, it wasn't the schitty amount of Uranium in Wyoming in that deal.

that mine is been shutdown for a while....

I'm still trying to get JaguarTX to buy it back from the Russians, but apparently he lacks the patriotism, or the dinero.

Maybe you could help him out.

Or get off your ass and look up the post and find out what I really said, not what you think you remember.

Or continue to be a liar, because you are too lazy to check.
Originally Posted by Sycamore
and it was French company before it was a Canadian company. and the "mines" in the US were a tiny part of the deal and insignificant part of the uranium. that changed hands in the deal. mostly in Kyrgyzstan.

what ever in the hell the Canadian guy paid the Clintons for, it wasn't the schitty amount of Uranium in Wyoming in that deal.

that mine is been shutdown for a while....

I'm still trying to get JaguarTX to buy it back from the Russians, but apparently he lacks the patriotism, or the dinero.

Maybe you could help him out.

Or get off your ass and look up the post and find out what I really said, not what you think you remember.

Or continue to be a liar, because you are too lazy to check.


Lol, keep acting.

They got you figured out Syc, not to many left.
Posted By: Sycamore More Uranium..... - 06/21/21
Uranium
Originally Posted by 12344mag
Originally Posted by Sycamore
and it was French company before it was a Canadian company. and the "mines" in the US were a tiny part of the deal and insignificant part of the uranium. that changed hands in the deal. mostly in Kyrgyzstan.

what ever in the hell the Canadian guy paid the Clintons for, it wasn't the schitty amount of Uranium in Wyoming in that deal.

that mine is been shutdown for a while....

I'm still trying to get JaguarTX to buy it back from the Russians, but apparently he lacks the patriotism, or the dinero.

Maybe you could help him out.

Or get off your ass and look up the post and find out what I really said, not what you think you remember.

Or continue to be a liar, because you are too lazy to check.


Lol, keep acting.

They got you figured out Syc, not to many left.


I got you figured out for a lazy liar, you're afraid to go back and see what was really said......
Posted By: Sycamore Re: More Uranium..... - 06/21/21
Originally Posted by ribka
you're such a clown pretending to be an expert on an area of the world you have zero education or first hand knowledge, Stick to rural backward Arizona and MCCain lol


Actually it was Kazakhstan, not Kyrgyzstan. I hate to trample on your international Uranium expertise. You should get back to telling us about how the West is being ruined by people moving in from the East, like Wisconsin.

I don't think you've lived in one place long enough to understand much about any of them. I do know a fair bit about "rural backward Arizona" and I am happy to live here. McCain was another politician who moved here from somewhere else, and he had a lot of things that a lot of Arizonans could relate to or appreciate. I was never his biggest fan, but I understand why and how he got elected, and I never felt the need to run him down, alive or dead.


Originally Posted by Sycamore
and it was French company before it was a Canadian company. and the "mines" in the US were a tiny part of the deal and insignificant part of the uranium. that changed hands in the deal. mostly in Kyrgyzstan. (my mistake it was Kazakhstan)

what ever in the hell the Canadian guy paid the Clintons for, it wasn't the schitty amount of Uranium in Wyoming in that deal.

that mine is been shutdown for a while....

I'm still trying to get JaguarTX to buy it back from the Russians, but apparently he lacks the patriotism, or the dinero.

Maybe you could help him out.

Or get off your ass and look up the post and find out what I really said, not what you think you remember.

Or continue to be a liar, because you are too lazy to check.
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