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Posted By: ol_mike

Outboard parts cost -comment- - 06/28/21

Ordered two impellers for two small Yamaha outboards I have .

Browsed other parts , an Engine Block - bare block - no crank/rods/pistons/head - didn't even appear to have seals cost $80 less than the entire engine cost when new . $860 for the bare block ,, paid around $980 for the complete outboard . It's a little 2.5hp 4-stroke I used for hunting the swamps of Florida & S. Alabama .
Pondered what the price would come to if everything bought from the parts department 5-6 thousand bucks ? Get a dealership to put it all together 10 thousand bucks ? smile

Stuff expensive these days - looked into building my old truck - white Ford F-150 lariat 5.4 short-box step-side , block machine work $1500-2000 , steel performance crank $800 , bearings? , rods/pistons $1500 , head work $1500 , Perf. ECM/tune$800 , balance ? , gaskets $350 , cams [2] $800 , cam chains/guides? , hordes more odds & ends around $10,000 .
Plus a Procharger supercharger helical cut gears $7500 , exhaust , intake , fuel pumps , performance injectors . Plus all the shipping costs - knocking $20K , plus a lot of work .
Over .
Posted By: wabigoon

Re: Outboard parts cost -comment- - 06/28/21

Yup.
Posted By: AKPENDUDE

Re: Outboard parts cost -comment- - 06/28/21

The price on outboards is waaay up right now, that’s if you can even find what you want. Parts aren’t surly non existent too. We ended up buying another 90/60 because the parts I needed to fix mine were on back order for ~ 8 months and summer was coming. The past few years, If you want to be ready, you needed to buy in the off season. Buy your snow machine in the summer, boats and fishing gear are winter purchases.
Posted By: Plumdog

Re: Outboard parts cost -comment- - 06/28/21

I heard new outboards are nowhere to be found...I wanted a Yamaha f70 big tiller last November. There was one available, but from Mass. to Fl. the guy wanted 1800 shipping. I went with used 2-stroke instead. Now I hear they are a year backordered...no wait...all orders cancelled!
Posted By: AKPENDUDE

Re: Outboard parts cost -comment- - 06/28/21

Originally Posted by Plumdog
I heard new outboards are nowhere to be found...I wanted a Yamaha f70 big tiller last November. There was one available, but from Mass. to Fl. the guy wanted 1800 shipping. I went with used 2-stroke instead. Now I hear they are a year backordered...no wait...all orders cancelled!


That sounds right.
Posted By: ltppowell

Re: Outboard parts cost -comment- - 06/28/21

Originally Posted by Plumdog
I heard new outboards are nowhere to be found...I wanted a Yamaha f70 big tiller last November. There was one available, but from Mass. to Fl. the guy wanted 1800 shipping. I went with used 2-stroke instead. Now I hear they are a year backordered...no wait...all orders cancelled!


Big Yamahas are impossible to get right now.
Posted By: Idaho_Shooter

Re: Outboard parts cost -comment- - 06/28/21

Mike, it's far cheaper to just buy a new outboard, than any major rebuild. A careful internet search will yield some places with a small inventory.

You might have settle for a different name on the cowl than you are used to. But most of the small outboards are made by Tohatsu anyway, plus Honda and Suzuki still build their own. AFAIK.

Automotive engines? It is real tough to beat a Detroit crate motor. Unless one is looking for serious performance upgrades.

I am far more familiar with GMC V8 engines than the alternatives. But am amazed that one can buy a stock 5.7 Chevy for around $2k, or bump the HP by almost 100hp in a GM factory built engine for about $5.5K

I was about ready to pull the plug on an HT383E for my 96 Vortec 4x4. 323 HP for $5400, and bolts right in under my manifolds. But I stumbled across this 01 GMC W/ 130,000 on the meter for less.

It always has been: "How fast can you afford to go?"
Posted By: ol_mike

Re: Outboard parts cost -comment- - 06/28/21

Idaho Shooter ,

Howdy .
My two small yamaha's run fine just changed the impellers because they're several years old . Was just killing time when I noticed the parts prices .

Just looked up Toyota 2JZ engines thinking an engine swap into a 20 year old 2wd Tacoma might be fun - 10K-12K for a junkyard 2JZ Supra motor . They're very popular performance engines - too popular for me .
An LS Chevy 5.3 build has to be the best deal for a big HP build .
Posted By: RockyRaab

Re: Outboard parts cost -comment- - 06/28/21

To this as well as to a bazillion other things today, I can truthfully say:

This never happened under Trump.
Posted By: kk alaska

Re: Outboard parts cost -comment- - 06/28/21

Bud ordered 100 new Tohatsu 50,s early last year got 3! No outboards are availble. Bought a 2018 5hp Merc on Craigslist cheap last Sunday 10 minutes after it was listed.

We ran ads looking for 2 stroke LW 35 to 50 hp jet outboards 2 years ago on Craigslist in AK and PNW came up with zip. Since Covid any used stuff if available is sky hi.
Posted By: wabigoon

Re: Outboard parts cost -comment- - 06/28/21

I have 9.8 Yamaha I'll sell, it needs a carb cleaning.
Posted By: WeimsnKs

Re: Outboard parts cost -comment- - 06/28/21

Originally Posted by wabigoon
I have 9.8 Yamaha I'll sell, it needs a carb cleaning.



If a carb cleaning is all it takes, why not do it yourself? Anything that runs always brings more money.
Posted By: wabigoon

Re: Outboard parts cost -comment- - 06/28/21

I have a 20 HP Merc.
Posted By: EdM

Re: Outboard parts cost -comment- - 06/28/21

I'd talk with these folks on your truck needs.

https://www.ford54lightningengines.com/
Posted By: ol_mike

Re: Outboard parts cost -comment- - 06/29/21

Originally Posted by EdM
I'd talk with these folks on your truck needs.

https://www.ford54lightningengines.com/


Thanks EdM !!!

I saw these a few months ago - got wrapped up with trying to move the last few months and didn't save this to my favs .

Bought a detailed performance rebuild book for the 4.6 & 5.4 coming in the mail soon .

https://www.diyford.com/how-to-assembly-ford-4-6l-5-4l-engines-step-by-step/

Not looking for anything extreme 600-700 wheel HP max with controller for low/mid/high settings .

The numbers I quoted were from racing engine companies who build everything as perfect as possible . Some roadracing engines the live from 5000 to 8000+ RPM - no need for that .
Posted By: Idaho_Shooter

Re: Outboard parts cost -comment- - 06/29/21

Originally Posted by wabigoon
I have a 20 HP Merc.

If it is of recent manufacture, it is actually built in Japan and is a rebadged Tohatsu. I do not think this is true of the old two strokes.

Thirty HP and under, Mercury and Yamaha are built by Tohatsu. It appears that Tohatsu actually offers a better warranty than does Merc or Yammie on the same engine.

Kind of like buying a Ford Courier pickup built by Mazda, or the Dodge D 50 built by Mitsubishi.
Posted By: ironbender

Re: Outboard parts cost -comment- - 06/29/21

When you type "impeller", do you mean "propeller", or are you running a little jet?
Posted By: Ranger99

Re: Outboard parts cost -comment- - 06/29/21

Probably referring to the rubber water pump impellers
that need replacing with time.
Posted By: ironbender

Re: Outboard parts cost -comment- - 06/29/21

Originally Posted by Ranger99
Probably referring to the rubber water pump impellers
that need replacing with time.

Thanks.
Posted By: Pappy348

Re: Outboard parts cost -comment- - 06/29/21

Brace yourself, inflation is just warming up, and the Dems are chomping at the bit to print and spend more, plus roll back the Trump tax cuts in an attempt to pay for some of it.
Posted By: OldmanoftheSea

Re: Outboard parts cost -comment- - 06/29/21

when you are dealing with those ity-bitty sub five-hps I have heard good things about the litlle tohasu(sp?)s and hondas...
since you cand find what you want..

a friend has something that runs on those camping propane bottles

another had a torquedo electric...
Posted By: srwshooter

Re: Outboard parts cost -comment- - 06/29/21

friend of mine ordered mercury jet outboard in january,still waiting.
Posted By: noKnees

Re: Outboard parts cost -comment- - 06/29/21

I needed a new little tiller engine, and couldn't find what I needed at any local dealers or the main online places so I put in email notifications at a couple of places. Finally got about 4 notifications back from online outboards, each time it was gone before I could checkout. In the end I finally did checkout with a 15hp suzuki, it wouldn't have been my first choice but will have too see how it goes.

Interestingly The only I I could get was electric start, not what I really wanted but with a little motrocycle battery it is pretty nice, no more pulling.
Posted By: las

Re: Outboard parts cost -comment- - 06/29/21

I have a 1962 6hp Merc that still runs - or did 15 years ago when I put it on the rack.... I just might take it to the remote cabin for moose hunting this fall to use on the Grumman 18. Motor is quiet, if the canoe isn't.... smile
Posted By: JimFromTN

Re: Outboard parts cost -comment- - 06/29/21

Originally Posted by Pappy348
Brace yourself, inflation is just warming up, and the Dems are chomping at the bit to print and spend more, plus roll back the Trump tax cuts in an attempt to pay for some of it.


Don't worry, the republicans are pushing to increase gas prices to pay for it so people like Jeff Bezos and Warren Buffet don't have to pay taxes.
Posted By: Heym06

Re: Outboard parts cost -comment- - 06/29/21

Originally Posted by noKnees
I needed a new little tiller engine, and couldn't find what I needed at any local dealers or the main online places so I put in email notifications at a couple of places. Finally got about 4 notifications back from online outboards, each time it was gone before I could checkout. In the end I finally did checkout with a 15hp suzuki, it wouldn't have been my first choice but will have too see how it goes.

Interestingly The only I I could get was electric start, not what I really wanted but with a little motrocycle battery it is pretty nice, no more pulling.

You will like the Suzuki outboard. Four stroke I assume, quiet, and dependable.
Posted By: BLG

Re: Outboard parts cost -comment- - 06/29/21

Originally Posted by JimFromTN
Originally Posted by Pappy348
Brace yourself, inflation is just warming up, and the Dems are chomping at the bit to print and spend more, plus roll back the Trump tax cuts in an attempt to pay for some of it.


Don't worry, the republicans are pushing to increase gas prices to pay for it so people like Jeff Bezos and Warren Buffet don't have to pay taxes.



Grab the cock in your mouth with both hands, so you will stop typing stupid chit.


Clyde
Posted By: Raeford

Re: Outboard parts cost -comment- - 06/29/21

Originally Posted by JimFromTN
Originally Posted by Pappy348
Brace yourself, inflation is just warming up, and the Dems are chomping at the bit to print and spend more, plus roll back the Trump tax cuts in an attempt to pay for some of it.


Don't worry, the republicans are pushing to increase gas prices to pay for it so people like Jeff Bezos and Warren Buffet don't have to pay taxes.


Thank God the democrats stopped all that Republican led police defunding!
Where might we be without them!
Posted By: Capt_Craig

Re: Outboard parts cost -comment- - 06/29/21

If you think that’s expensive, over the weekend I helped sea trial a boat repowered with new twin 425 Yammys. $100k to buy and rig with a waiting list three years long to get them. That price doesn’t include the boat they are attached to. Good times.
Posted By: MuskegMan

Re: Outboard parts cost -comment- - 06/29/21


B.O.A.T. = Bring On Another Thousand ($)
Posted By: Simoneaud

Re: Outboard parts cost -comment- - 06/29/21

Correct, you can't buy a outboard in south Louisiana, 24 month delivery date on all new orders, no chit, i am not kidding, and all machanics are busy cause everyone is fixing there broke motors.

dad blew his 3 year old evinrude 250 saltwater motor, sent a piston threw the block, waiting for a new block right now, prolly will miss fishing all summer .
Posted By: reivertom

Re: Outboard parts cost -comment- - 06/30/21

That's why there's a lot of used parts for sale. Last year the prices of boating skyrocketed including parts.
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