https://redpill78news.com/is-the-fb...t-the-movement-history-and-case-studies/

Check this out: https://www.corbettreport.com/episode-305-the-secret-life-of-timothy-mcveigh/ And: https://www.corbettreport.com/interview-1026-chris-emery-on-the-real-timothy-mcveigh/

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Read “others unknown” by McVeigh’s attorney.

Hey jag, have you heard of a book titled "Chaos" by Tim O'Neill?

He has some interesting perspective on the Manson murders.

Of course, he's correct.

In the hours and confusion immediately after the bomb(s) went off, a woman caller on a talk radio show called in claiming to be a 911 dispatcher for OK City. She sounded authentic, and she claimed they had an anonymous call, on tape, 20 min. before the blast, warning 911 to clear the building. 24 hrs later, Feds seized the tapes and the OK City FD logs. They were eventually returned...doctored? Who knows.
And an employee of Controlled Demolition Inc looked at photos of the wreckage and said, "no f....ing way."

That's interesting. Thanks, Col.

Like JFKs body was illegally seized, and when returned to viewing, it had also been "doctored".

Hard to know what to believe anymore when it comes to government. I used to think government was mostly good with a few bad apples. Now I believe most in government are bad apples with a few that haven't been spoiled, yet. But give them time.

Some good reads concerning possible government involvement! The first article may be the most technologically informative! There are numerous articles pertaining to the OKC bombing available in The New American magazine. memtb

https://thenewamerican.com/red-flages-from-an-expert/


https://thenewamerican.com/proof-of-bombs-and-coverup/
https://thenewamerican.com/key-report-on-okc-bombing/

I’d say the top of that hour glass is been emptied sometime ago . Kenneth

you read this stuff, it makes one wonder exactly how much the US Government is involved in "keeping the war on terrorism" on going.
it is said the American involvement in Vietnam is what kept our economy growing in the 60s... that especially with the democRats in control,
keeping our military at war is what drives the American economy in hard economic times...

it was Eisenhower who said be very aware of the military industrial complex...

over the last 20 plus years how much has the US Government, spent giving money to our supposed enemies in the Middle East, with the USA in reality funding BOTH sides..., example being, when Obama sent C 130s to Iran, loaded with pallets and pallets full of cash money, in the middle of the night.
where was that money spent? you know it didn't ALL go to be spent on their developing their nuclear bomb program.. I'd bet plenty of it went from Iran, to Hamas, the Talaban and a host of other radical Muslim groups...

Probably a big reason Trump wanted our troops out of the middle east period...

and now with this Plandemic, to condition American citizen to be on lock down, creating a crisis so that all eyes and ears are on to media, and to listen to our latest instructions of what we should be doing... " listening to our political leaders"....Was the Oklahoma City bombing in 1995 a test run, to put terrorism within our own borders, so it can be done moreso at a later date? Such as now...

As I have said for decades now, even at a local governmental level.. Government grows and lives and thrives, by creating problems that don't really exist in our society, so that we need them to supervise and manage the problems they created.....social welfare and its constant expansion is a perfect example..
so it the tolerance of the antics of Antifa, BLM and a host of other anti society groups...

government grows by leaps and bounds during crisis, to manage the crisis....so how much of this constant crisis lifestyle is our Federal, State and Local Government constantly creating?

has western governments been tolerating communism since the beginning of the last century, so that they can have an enemy "to fight" or at least to defend against, and make their populations Leary of? Is this what the cold war, many of us grew up under really all about?

and now it is terrorism world wide, with Antifa and BLM within our borders......this is what really makes government grow and grow and grow...
and where your freedoms are slowly eroded away, and it is called national safety and security from their created "boogey man"...

no wonder democRAT ends in the word RAT....

see below

Which is why the Founding Fathers gave us a central government of extremely limited, circumscribed, and enumerated powers. Almost all the laws that were to govern us were intended to be local, i.e., county and town level, the various state codes accounting for the remainder. The Federal Government was to do very little, the extent to which can be understood by reading Article I, Section 8 in the Constitution. The General Welfare clause were a mere introduction to the specific powers delegated in the words of Section 8 to follow. It's a fairly short list.

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government,"[...]

We passed the”Limited Government “ part over a Century ago. For the last half cent you nore we’ve been in a socialist takeover. Tired yet?

Is you feelin' it yet?

The water in the pot is at about 190° right now.

When will the majority of the people wake up?
Look how many want this one and that ane arrested thinking that will put back on track, still believing much of the propaganda put out by the Gov. and the Media.
No, I don't think we are ready yet. I think there is much much more needs to be revealed before we are ready. Heck, the topic of this thread is a great example.
Tim McVay was Special Forces and a scapegoat. I imagine he was setup. The big question is, what evidence was stored in the basement of the Federal building waiting on a trial?
Would it have anything to do with Waco, Mena Arkansas, and the late Berry Seal? Who knows, eh.

The Real Hawk Eye is correct in what he wrote, but many have very little knowledge of what the Constitution really says and I would assume by the apathy, it isn't that important to them other than the a certain Amendment. And even that Amendment would have very few "Patriots" trying to enforce it.

In all of the hype and info we have seen over the years, the single most amazing number of all is: Of the 300 + ATF employees that worked in the OK City building, how many were at work that day?

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Thank you, Jaguar! I have been looking for John Doe #2 for 25 years.
After the bombing they found the drive shaft of the rental truck. It had a serial number. The FBI tracked it to the rental agency. They found out the date and time when that truck was rented. They talked to people who were in the shop at the time that the truck was rented. Then they made artist's sketches of the two men who rented that truck.

They made two sketches and released them to the public and to Law and Order. John Doe #1 was a dead ringer for Timothy McVeigh and is what got him busted. He was in jail in Oklahoma for a traffic violation, a deputy saw the sketch and it was all over for McVeigh.

John Doe #2 was described as a "Middle Eastern looking man." Looked kind of like an Arab. For a week, he was the most wanted man in America. And then, the FBI said "Mistake. There is no such man. Move along here, nothing to see."

I knew that was BS at the time, such a great sketch of McVeigh, and now, John Doe #2 "doesn't exist." I knew the FBI was lying, and now we know, John Doe #2 was an FBI plant.

Not an Arab but a Kraut. Look at the guy, not all Krauts are blonde haired with blue eyes, look at Arnold Schwartzenegger, kind of dark skin and brown hair. Also Schwarzenegger has that square jaw just like John Doe #2.

Thank you Jaguar, of all things he is a Kraut, and an FBI plant. The things you learn on Campfire forum.

Thanks Simon. MSM.aint got schiett on us.

Jaguar tx,

You might consider Col. Craig Roberts books worth reading. He covers topics that you find of interest.
He has done in depth research into the Kennedy assassination and was the first non federal investigator of the tragic event of this thread.

http://www.riflewarrior.com

http://www.riflewarrior.com/author.html

FWIW Schitzenpanzer is Austrian.

I know. Austrian, Kraut, not much difference. Just ask Hitler.

LOL
To the point though genetically French and Germans are genetically the same or close enough that typical ancestry DNA test can’t tell them apart. There are obviously plenty of darker haired and skinned French so it makes sense some German and Austrians would be.

I would, but he hasn't logged in for awhile. Pears have been sent in multiple threads.

I've always thought there was too many strange circumstances around the Oklahoma city bombing. It's interesting that Biden was involved with pushing a crime bill he himself considered the precursor to the Patriot Act that was passed right after tge bombing.

I've always thought an idiot like Biden must have had some serious dirt on high up people to get the nod for Obamas VP. It was more than Biden being a great life insurance policy for Obama.

Bb

If this information is accurate and the deep state was responsible for this mass murder,then this places in question every national tragedy in our recent history.

JFK assassination,9/11 ect.,ect.

Lol

this is great stuff for the conspiracy buffs.

It's difficult learning any new information,especially when it may disrupt or even destroy the world view created by the deep state controlled fake news.

it's a given, that folks tend to believe the "news" they want to be true.

Yep, like the House Committee on Assassinations must have believed the WC was FOS too, as they came to the conclusion there was a conspiracy that resulted in the death of JFK but that they didnt know who the other parties were.

Somehow i doubt Jackie Onassis lied to her daughter as she lay on her death bed and told Caroline that it was LBJ who killed her dad. At least thats what Caroline said her mother told her.

You know that feller on the grassy knoll? I still have the shovel…..

Criminals are stupid. People who think criminals aren't stupid, complicate everything.

I think it was LBJ. He was one evil SOB.

Bb