Yet more proof. A major outbreak with hundreds of cases many of them symptomatic and 74% of them were vaccinated.

https://www.yahoo.com/gma/cdc-mask-decision-followed-stunning-204900053.html

People should wear a mask 24/7 and hide in a closet

No, they should live their lives, avoid the ADE causing vaccines, lose a little weight, get a bit more healthy, and get on with things.

Of course they don't work, they weren't developed to protect anyone against c19

when will people wake up and smell the dogshiit ?

there's something else going on and if the citizens of the USA found out the truth ........ It would be so damning that ALL the people would march on the politicians, drag them all out into the streets and tear them apart ....

I absolutely guarantee that would happen

My 57 year old hunting buddy just came back from a week long softball tournament for his granddaughter, in Florida. Nearly every adult associate of the team came back with covid. None had been vaccinated. My buddy’s wife only took one of the two Maderna shots (refused to take the other one) and came down with covid 19 as well. My buddy, who had been fully vaccinated, was the only one of the group who never got the virus. There are certainly a number of breakthrough cases out there, but if it limits serious illness, its a huge advantage. I know of too many middle aged people 35-55 who are facing potentially life long effects and permanent disability due to heart problems or severely scared lungs. I will not vaccinate my 16 year old daughter, but for all of my friends who are in their 40’s +, I would strongly recommend taking the vaccine. Seeing a 42 year old barely be able to make it through a day of work with out collapsing, 8 months after getting the virus, will make you rethink an opposition to the vaccine. Still lots of unanswered questions about the disease and the vaccines, but the risk benefit ratio seems to favor the vaccine for anyone 40+, (or younger if overweight).

SSDI will most likely write a disability classification for long term covid chronic disease.

It can be the new Fatfouck Fireman Fake back pain of the here and now.

I doubt it would be a Blue Book stand-alone but it could very well be “matrixed up” with a Residual Functional Capacity listing. Couple that with another Comorb and they might could get a check.

Paging “Deep Throat”

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It's not supposed to keep you from getting the virus, it's supposed to lessen the effects.

If you were a smarter man you would realize the virus has mutated, and will continue to do so as long as there are hoards of dumazzes that refuse to get vaccinated.

You'll eat ^^^these^^^ words.

It's becoming clear that the mRNA "vaccines" (novel prophylactic gene therapies) do not offer durable immunity.

The vaccine is dumb you down and destroy your immune system making you depend on health care the rest of you life. And they decide how long you live.

It's working just like the gubmemt wants it to work
It's dividing the people of this great country into the haves and have nots

Did anyone notice on the c-19 incidence map that SD was the lowest? We never had a mask mandate or mass lockdowns and our Governor never coerced anyone to be vax'ed. What coincidence. Mb

Yeah that’s what was advertised.

LOL

readonly, I would appreciate a quick lesson on how unvaccinated people are causing the virus to mutate.

Not so fast. They may yet do as designed and kill a lot of folks this fall and winter.

If the so called vaccine does not preclude one's ability to catch the bug, and does not prevent the vaccinated person from spreading it. just how does the vaccine help eradicate the damn thing?

I get its supposed lessoning of symptoms, but it ain't slowing the spread, just like the freaking mask do not.

Grand daughter took the dang thing this week, as the "rules" are if you have had the jab, and are exposed, you do not have to quarantine. This child is the light of my life and if the social pressure and her desire to get that college scholarship result in harm to her or her health, there will be repercussions.

The most dangerous thing in the world is an angry old man with a lot of pain and still able to get around.

And to whom, specifically, would you vent that anger upon?

Two standards of deviation. But that’s beside the point.

Your statement is 189 degrees wrong. The vaccinated people are causing the imitations if there truly are any.

Exactly as they advertised it.

(After they found out it won’t keep you from getting it.)

Sooo, if it’s not going to prevent a person from getting the virus, just lessen the effects of it. Tell us how that works again.

Data suggest mutations are occurring in the vaccinated as well. As long as they carry a viral load they can mutate.

The big pharma plan seems to be endless boosters, as with the flu vaccine every year.

The Delta Variant may just be the effect of the "vaccine." When you add into that the fact that most PCR positives are false, due to the test being worthless, you can have even less confidence in any stats coming out.

- a sterile closet..

I wonder why there's little (well actually, NONE) reporting of the false tests that come back positive when in reality the person's not infected.. Huh....

The Marick’s disease doomsday scenario. They took a fairly benign virus that appeared in commercial broiler chickens and in order to increase profits began vaccinating them all before delivery to growers. The vaccines were leaky and allowed the virus to infect and propagate in the vaccinated chickens without doing them much harm. Because of this, the virus endlessly mutated and became more lethal so that now any unvaccinated bird in contact with commercial chickens will be infected and killed by the now 100% fatal Marick’s disease.

Imagine that. Every person on earth must be vaccinated to survive. Everyone must receive regular boosters throughout their lives to remain alive. Failure to receive a booster, means death. Imagine the control of the population in that scenario.

And it’s not imaginary. We’ve created exactly such a world for chickens. Will they do it for us?

They appear to be trying to.

If you were a smarter man you would realize the vaccinated may be the cause of the mutation

Combine this with ever increasingly sophisticated DNA and RNA editing and manipulation techniques and you can come up with much more nightmarish scenarios than what you describe.

With mRNA delivery systems you can induce the body to produce any protein you want. The possibilities are ENDLESS. Every physiological operation in our body is manged through proteins. (THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT DIFFERENCE between antigen based vaccines and mRNA vaccines)

With DNA the possibilities above are multiplied.

The only thing preventing terrible things are people with morals. We know for a fact the people running the world have no morals. There are many powerful people who think there are to many people on planet earth. The idea that humans are a cancer on the planet is NOT an uncommon belief.

I think you've lost your authority on who is or isn't smart based on this one post.

Masks don't work - it's physically impossible to stop a .125 micron virus with a 5-8 micron hole.

Viruses typically get weaker when they mutate. We currently are at death rates LESS than March 2020, the start of the pandemic.

I have 3 family members down with COVID right now - 2 were vaccinated. Ages 67 and 42. Another who's 10.

Notice how it's about people being infected but not dying or requiring hospitalization - it's simply being infected that's supposed to scare us. It's about as scary as being infected with a headache.

Don't ever comment on someone else being smart - you've not earned the right or ability to do it.

But those people wouldn't won't to kill off their voting base, would they?

They no longer need a voting base, since they've shown they can pick the winners, and the citizens won't do anything about it.

Minnesota governor is offering $100 to anyone getting the shot who is over twelve years old....how is this even legal? Our government is completely deranged, or there is truly a whole wide conspiracy, to be promoting such things.

Yes, the "elite" are fond of using the comparison to fungus overgrowth to describe the human race on the earth.

VERY good point. 😪

A lot of you on here hate Christianity. Well, we are officially entering into a post Christian world. That means Christian ethics and morals no longer act as an even theoretical constraint on the people doing this sort of stuff. Let’s see how it all works out.

+1

That was reported from day 1 but folks here will not remember that fact or do not want to remember it.

Yep, as argued by Blackpilled.

BS, The claim from day 1 was 95% effective in preventing one from catching Covid-19. We know know that is not accurate

Breakthrough case means doesn’t work, liberal terminology

I just read this morning where the virus is mutating because of the vaccine, which is very ineffective. For every pro viewpoint from MSM, .Gov, etc. I can find 3 con reports if I peruse and sift through the minutiae!

Exactly

All agencies say that the vaccine does not keep you from getting covid. So how is it a whole group can get it but one guy with vaccine didn’t. I smell bullshitt. Edk

Yep. The idea of vaccines is TO PREVENT DISEASE. Its not a true vaccine. Top US virologists say variants would all be covered by a real vaccine because real variants only change by something like 0.003%. Too bad the MSM and SM shut those Drs down and block them.

I dont see variants getting around the small pox vaccine or polio vaccine.

I dont see people getting mild cases of polio or small pox or diphtheria or pertussis ot tetanus. Do those agents not mutate? Do they have no variants?

We have been lied to from the beginning. We are still being lied to. How can someone realize this and expect a different result? Its all BS. Its all political and will not until the politics change. The covid will still be with us just like the flu. Good reason to get healthy and stay healthy. If you are obese and or have other serious health issues you are at a higher risk. There is no pill or shot for that.

https://rumble.com/vkgdq7-deadly-shots-former-pfizer-employee-confirms-poison-in-covid-vaccine.html

My buddy's wife is home with covid. She was vaccinated, and they vax shamed me. 😀

So.....say that it is proven that this whole vax thing is bad , does it all then fall on the former POTUS and operation warp speed as the culprits and then we have a whole new investigation to look forward to, the end result the whole world sues TRUMP!

Authoritative answers here from the developer of mRNA technology:

https://rumble.com/vk9rmy-episode-1...t-dangerous-people-in-america-pt.-1.html

J.G.'s meme sums this fiasco up in one tidy diaper picture.

You mean Chyna and her allies

Readonly , You are living proof that gaslighting works well on idiots.

The so-called "Delta Variant" has been around for about four months, yet, there were no serious attempts made to contain it; apart from promoting vaccines which, as it turns out, are ineffective in stopping the spread of this version of the virus. In fact, fully vaxxed people were practically encouraged to get out and mingle because they could! After a few weeks of this, the CDC response is, "Oops!". With the failure of the response becoming more and more evident, it is almost comical to see the backpedaling and spinning which is taking place now. GD

Hiden Biden tried real hard to locate the Delta and eradicate it . He failed like falling up the airplane loading stairway

What will the Covtard ever do now that gazillions of people will never take the “vaccine”?

LOL

The Delta variant is the same variant from India, that was controlled with ivermectin.

Of course. They know that. That's why they suppress that information, and suppress Ivermectin as a treatment. Because then they all become criminals for authorizing an experimental non-vaccine on the basis of an emergency. An emergency authorization requires that there are no known effective treatments.

Damn, I waited the entire length of the video for them to finally get a good connection with JFK Jr. and just as they were getting back to him, it ended. WTF? Did JFK Jr. hang up?

Why in the world would he answer this question? Dumbazz

vaccinated individuals infected with delta may be able to transmit the virus as easily as those who are unvaccinated. Vaccinated people infected with delta have measurable viral loads similar to those who are unvaccinated and infected with the variant." - WaPo

Breaking News: The Delta variant is as contagious as chickenpox and may be spread by vaccinated people as easily as the unvaccinated, an internal C.D.C. report said.-NY Times

All this Delta variant talk is crap. There probably isn’t even a Delta variant. But even if there is, a regular PCR test can’t detect it. The sample has to go to a pathologist. So they really don’t know if these vaccinated people have the Delta variant or not.

What is happening is textbook ADE and a waining immunity. You’re seeing the immunity wear off of the early initial vaccine takers and now they are more susceptible to Covid than anyone. Anecdotally it’s far worse than they are admitting. I just, within the last 20 minutes, had a client in whose sister is an ER nurse. They are starting to see tons of cases and a very high percentage of them as completely vaccinated.

Joe,

What happened to the flu and cold cases?

Any word on how the chinks are doing?.....Of the 1.3 billion there must be a chink with the skinny.

They announced the other day that they haven’t had a Covid death in fourteen months.

Easy to not have any deaths here too.

I'd say this virus thing is running steady on course with the planned efficacy. Designed and paid for by Bill Gates, Soros & Fauci to do exactly what it's doing. The only people the Democrats are working for are the ones they are trying to eliminate. Then whose $$ will they spend?

Especially when having sex........

Toot says it works but she’s less scared when adding a face shield also. LOL

Nice to see your usual number of Fire dips hits blowing off their ignorance!

Yeah, "safe and effective".

It is easy to understand why we have such a poor educational system now in the US with anti science posts like yours. Now go double mask clown.

#usefulidiots

The dumbass is strong with this one!!! My hell.

That’s how a lot of people think. Critical thinking is becoming a lost art. Stuff isn’t that hard. Man.

How can poison in a jab be good for you????


https://rumble.com/vkgdq7-deadly-shots-former-pfizer-employee-confirms-poison-in-covid-vaccine.html

Well, there is that.

Truth.

OT, does it mention Bill Gates?

Of course the Covid vaccine works, just look at the results here,,,,

it's upset and exposed every kook on the Fire, maybe the entire planet

SAGE, the UK's health "expert panel," warns next Covid "super mutant variant" could kill up to one in three people, and the "vaccine roll-out may even speed up mutant strain's emergence." (Daily Mail)

When your "science" requires censorship, it isn't science.

BS! That's not the bags of tricks that was sold in the beginning. In the beginning it was 95% (or some high 90's percentage number)effective against COVID. Was going to stop everyone from getting it. Now that people who are vaccinated are getting COVID, it is "it lessens the effects'. So how do you know it lessens the effects with no baseline? With such a wide range of severity from no symptoms to death, how can you tell. Did they infect a bunch of people with COVID, see how bad they were and then give them the vaccine and re-infect them?

When your "history" requires censorship, it isn't history. That too.

Spot on.

Isn't it good to know the scientific community never lies

Everything is working exactly as intended, for the loss of our liberty.

WRONG, I was told before I got the shot in February it would not prevent me from getting Covid but it would lower my chances of dying. I was on the fence until I spoke with my cardiologist on my chances of surviving having CFS.


And that is exactly what it is doing; 97% of recent deaths are people who did not get the shot, only 3% are people that got the shot so it is working just as advertised.

I had it, was asymptomatic, but I've got a pretty good immune system and have never had a reaction to a vaccine, either. So, given that yep, a worldwide thing would mutuate with 10 billion possible hosts, I decided long ago to get jabbed soon after I became eligible. Just watch for reaction anomalies, right? Not enough to be of concern to me, so I jabbed.
My primary concern is getting another variant, it becoming hot, and I'm asymptomatic and might infect someone else. I'm really not that worried about me.
Never expected it to completely protect me, but if you take the jab, at least your immune system can MODERATE whatever comes down the line, or at least the odds are pretty good that will be the case. If it hits me again, I don't know it, at least I'd like to radiate others less. For me, the jab was the rational option.

This from someone who took the jab........... Amazing

Not only took the jab, but ridiculed those who didn't

LOL

So 97 percent of the .6 percent who die were unvaccinated? Are these new numbers or what. Since they are not tracking the vaccinated people how do they get these figures? Ed

Even though they said the jab doesn't stop you from getting it?
Doesn't sound rational at all lol.

The jab doesn’t stop me from getting it and potentially spreading it. I’m going to get the jab to protect others. Lololololol

Your full of it, or do you like to lie on purpose?

After a minute of thought I'll just say it, your a GD lier

Water is wet

Ummmmm, no he ain't

Wrong answer 700, you’d be the confused one.

Most rational folks would prefer having questions that can’t be fully answered as opposed to answers that can’t be questioned.

Here is a great data point to consider, listen to Dr. Robert Malone at about 18:10 in this recent podcast.

https://getpodcast.com/podcast/war-...ons-w-naomi-wolf-dr-robert-ma_e42d331fd9

I don't care you were told in February at roll out it was touted as 95% effective

Where are you proof that supports your claim that 97% of deaths were unvaccinated?

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopoliti...ments-so-desperate-100-vaccination-rates

"They have to force us to be vaccinated as well – ALL of us, so that there is no control group and thus no proof of what they have done. They could simply blame mass health disorders on covid itself, or some other false culprit."

He's spot on.

So in this article they do touch on fully vaccinated folks having contracted covid. Yet there is a lot they do not touch on. My primary question is are or were these infected folks on immune suppressants. Then we need to remember no one suggested that the vaccine is 100 percent effective in any population. Think the numbers are closer to 94% effective with Moderna and Phizer.

Then in this same link provided we find this link MORE: Vast majority of ICU patients with COVID-19 are unvaccinated, ttps://abcnews.go.com/US/vast-majority-icu-patients-covid-19-unvaccinated-abc/story?id=79128401

I am puzzled as to how anyone would take away from the article that Vaccines do not work?

Suppose Ill ask the anti-vaccesers what they really are afraid of, with the vaccines? Ill encourage you to look at this from many ICU attendees view. What are the ICU's personnel seeing that doesn't work and how harsh are the outcomes. I do not wish to be confrontational with those who choose to not be vaccinated, rather I'd like to understand your reservations against getting vaccinated with a 94% effective vaccine. As opposed to doing nearly nothing for example. From what I understand here the science and facts carry very little if any weight here with those who choose to abstain. Still Id like to truly understand the reservation in getting vaccinated.

Are we holding out for a better alternative? Do we expect a better alternative? Or is there a better alternative that currently out there that I am not aware of? This is worth a heart felt discussion at the very least as we are talking about life altering & or life ending choices here.

Why do you feel the need to be vaccinated against a condition that is 99.7% survivable?

If you believe in the Easter Bunny, then you’ll also believe Old Toot is is the Covid Wizard. LMAO

There are no anti-vaxxers.

Cause there's no vaccines.

Well not sure if your figures are correct but 600,000 Americans are dead and the Vaccines could have saved 90% or more, that is the reason to take the COVID-19 Vaccine.

Amazing that a Vietnam vet believes the lies told by the government.

I had a flu vaccine last year. I'll need another one this year. Does that mean last year's didn't work?

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Ill be happy to discuss this if you really wish to know.

1st 99.7% survivable for who? think the facts are closer to 98% survivable by the general population that become infected & this is overlooking long haulers.

2nd do we wish to include lung haulers in this discussion? I do and this a big factor for me. Their is more that we do not understand about long haulers than that that we do. Though roughly 10% of those infected do experience long hauler's symptoms for an extensive time after "recovering"

3rd this is not about one individual this is about the snowballing effect and mutations.

4th I choose to have faith in the world effort to be vaccinated & feel blessed to have the opportunity & choose to accept this choice. I accept this opportunity for the good intended myself and the reduction of the snowball effect that may effect the masses.

5th I see the real results in reduced hospitalizations since the vaccines acceptance and implementation.

6th I believe that the more of us that do accept the facts of the benefits of the vaccines (in my case I favor Moderna) the sooner & more effectivly we may have covid 19 suppressed.

Were you told that you would be fired if you didn’t take it?

First, the substance you're alluding to, isn't a vaccine, which renders the vast majority of the posts on this thread technically incorrect. Second, scientifically, what you're saying is false. There is no proof that the injection you speak of would have saved anybody. The COVID tests themselves have been proven to be wildly inaccurate, and this was known about them, from the get-go. That and the proven fact that the statistics were set to show that just about everybody who was tested had COVID.

You just pulled the 90% figure out of your lying, retarded, commie ass.

Neither you, your doctor nor anybody else has a clue whether it worked or not.

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So let’s talk about #3. Do you honestly believe that the unvaccinated are contributing more to mutations than those who get vaccinated with leaky vaccines?

Tell me what they knew 70 years ago with polio and non-sterilizing vaccines and how they chose to handle it.

Why do you GAF about his needs?

I’m happy to let that fat old boomer do as he likes, but I would ask that he return the favor.

I just got off the phone with my brother. He's a doctor. He's the President of both the teaching and research hospitals at Nationwide Children's hospital. We talked about retirement, family, bicycling and COVID. Being in high level research circles, he knows a doctor who developed the Moderna vaccine. They've played softball together before. They have chatted about the vaccine. No need to go into details that nobody cares about, but having that conversation with my brother gave me greater confidence in the safety of the vaccine.

As viruses do, he expects this one to continue to morph. He expects COVID vaccines to require regular modification to keep up. He believes booster may be in the future as well.

I actually understand the distrust people have of the government and the vaccine. When the nation's leading pandemic specialist is a dipschidt like Fauci and he got caught flatfooted by this, and he's the government's mouthpiece, then it's expected that there will be skeptics. Then add the Delta "breakthrough" cases and I won't criticize those that are holding off. There were a lot of polio vaccine skeptics back in the day too.

One of the early polio vaccines CAUSED 800,000 cases of polio. A more recent Bill Gates sponsored polio vaccine caused over 400,000 cases in India.

Truth or not, beyond hospital admissions in the past week, outlying walk-in clinics and emergency after hours clinics are supposedly reporting an overflow of admissions beyond what they can serve and handle properly.

These are all listed as having the Delta Variant and all those being admitted are listed as being unvaccinated.

The same overflow extends to covid related 911 calls .

There’s been a silence about anything covid/pediatrics related cases since the first listings a few days ago.

Who knows how much truth is buried in these newspaper reports?

All of the above is in the greater metropolitan Baton Rouge area.

That seems like a non-sequitur JoeBob. Our previous comments were on efficacy rather than policy.

Good info, PB.

The "vaccines" might prove ineffective, but the mind programming works great.

Serious charge, big number. What is your source? A video of someone just saying it doesn't count.

I think what will prove to be remarkable is that as time goes on, these mRNA innoculations (they have nothing to do with cows) will fade from our concern the same way the H1N1 vaccine has. Near as I can tell, the best case is Pfizer and Moderna's products give some protection (somewhere between ~30 and ~60% for Delta) and better protection than that from serious illness or hospitalization, and we can expect the antibody response from them will fade substantially by the end of the first year. It's less believable that the shots are any kind of evil scheme (slightly more plausible that the virus is). The critical thing is that we maintain liberty for people to make their own medical decisions and to engage is speech and expressive conduct without tyranny.

The evidence is growing that the shots aren't a universal panacea. They're not going to make the pandemic go away, much less our healthcare problems, our civil schism, our politcal polarization, our economic catastrophe that's heavily masked by monetary and fiscal policies that are actually exacerbating it, and on and on. I'm pursaded the Pfizer and Moderna products do help, but less than many would hope and some peoples' growing demand to force the innoculation of others is a more hopeless and dangerous course than forgoing the consumption of these products.

It’s a non-sequitor because a serious response to your question wasn’t warranted. The flu vaccine is different every year and is merely an educated guess as to which one of the thousands of flu strains will be most prevalent that year. It often doesn’t protect against those other strains. Most people are not tested for the flu and the standard tests don’t reveal what strain a person has if they have it.

Two of the biggest CovTards on the Fire pat each other on the azz.

LOL

Covtard alert at Old Toot’s double wide (hit a Mickey Ds scratch off in 2005 and upgraded)

LMAO

Well said. Pretty much how I see it.

Covtards accept a bullshit anecdotal story bout bolo-19 hook, line and sinker, and want ontological certitude about any other claim.

No point in wastin logic on em.

I will take a a Covid vaccine when Joe Biden stops shipping Covid infected illegals to cities all around the country in the dead of night.

Yep. Pfizers was supposed to be 94% effective - against what?

Against getting covid. Well, that aint happening.

Against death from Covid? Ok, you take the jab that makes you 94% safe from COVID-19 death.
Id rather go with the 99.7% chance of not dying from COVID-19.

Sheesh. This schiett ain't rocket science.

HE told us about the Vipers. What are those snakes on the Medical emblem? Vipers

HE told us to look at what kind of fruit a tree bears.

What kind of fruit does WHO, Biteme, CDC, the MSM and Fauci bear?

Dont squeeze turds to get lemonade

Funny post there lefty, it appears the "leaky" vaccines are what's responsible for virus mutations.

It’s been stated by every expert that the covid vaccine will not keep you from getting it. How is it that only unvaccinated people are seemingly getting it. Hmmm strange. You don’t suppose the gov would bull Schitt you with data released do you? I’m just trying to understand the logic of not getting covid if you are vaccinated when all the claims say it won’t help with that. Inquiring minds want to know. Edk

It’s called confusion, wrapped in a mystery, boxed in a conundrum, shrouded in an enigma put forth as a definite maybe for all to believe what may or may not be true depending on what moment it’s updated.

That should do it for the present moment, only.

Thats not what they said at first. Get the jab so we get rid of covid and masks.

I’m trying to understand the logic of forcing people to get a vaccine that doesn’t protect the general public in that it doesn’t stop the vaccinated from contracting and spreading the condition.

Exactly:

That's difficult to wrap one's head around

Really makes one suspect ulterior motives. In fact, in absence of all logic for compulsory vaccination, ulterior motives must be assumed.

There is no logic on that basis. The only logic is related to instituting a vaccine passport as the embryological form of the social credit score and total population control. Additional logic can be found if their purpose is population reduction.

BAM!!

Hate to tell you this - that coronavirus is going to mutate regardless of who gets the mRNA treatment (hint: it's NOT a vaccine) and who doesn't get that treatment.

Coronaviruses have always been classified as COLD viruses that, given the right circumstances, could cause pneumonia. Just like the influenza viruses.

Cold and flu viruses are always mutating. That's why there's never been a successful vaccine for either one - there are too many mutations and variants to consider.

If YOU were a smarter man, you wouldn't allow the media to propagandize you to hate your fellow man....

EXACTLY! This virus is in the environment and will NEVER be vanquished. It will remain out there, and will continue to mutate. And, it seems to be following all classic virus mutations; each subsequent mutation is more contagious, but less lethal. All data to date suggest Covid-19 is no different.

The jab (NOT a vaccine) is not the end-all cure-all.

Folks, CV-19 is in the environment to stay. We have to learn to live with it.

Six months after it was first officially identified (January 2020), we knew how to deal with it with THERAPEUTICS. That's the answer! Not magic potion jabs. And in the intervening year, even more therapeutics have been identified.

This is not difficult to comprehend.

So "a Doctor" who developed the Moderna "vaccine", which is based on modifying MRna. You can listen directly to the Doctor that came up with the original idea of modifying MRna. He has been on numerous podcasts recently. You can also listend to Robert F Kennedy Jr, also on several recent podcasts and who will soon be coming out with a book on the whole sham.

Malone comes on at about 18:10 you can start there without listening to the rest if you wish.

https://getpodcast.com/podcast/war-...ons-w-naomi-wolf-dr-robert-ma_e42d331fd9

At this link episodes 1120 and 1121 have RKF Jr.

https://tunein.com/podcasts/News--Politics-Podcasts/Bannon-WarRoom-p1411317/

Theory as to why they are so desperate to get us all to comply. I believe it's a good theory and that they have additional motives as well.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopoliti...ments-so-desperate-100-vaccination-rates

Or go ahead trust Biden, Fauci, Gates, the World Economic Forum group, Soros, Klaus Schwab etc. Just don't force others to get the damn thing.

Polarization at an all time high

And that too is by design.

My neighbor was going off on the unvaccinated. I said " you act like covid is the bubonic plague" he said " it is!" I said you really think covid is on par with the black death?! 95% of people that catch it live, including me.

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99.8%.

No offense, but did you honestly have to speak with a doctor to understand that a cold strain morphs?

It's just like all of their lies.
For instance........
1970s.........Global ice age is here.
2,000s........ Global warming will cause the ice caps to melt.
Even Washington DC will be underwater!
(If we could be so fortunate)
2010s ........Oh NO! We can't admit that we lied since the end of the planet didn't occur in yet another worldwide flood. It's actually CLIMATE CHANGE!
The weather is actually CHANGING in the temperate zones!
Give us power, money and your freedom in order to keep you safe.
BTW.......
Take the shots to prevent the great CV 19 Snake bat soup plague!
Errrrr. You say it's not working???
Dummy...we never said it would PREVENT the plague!!
We said it would LESSEN the SYMPTOMS!
Yeah, um, that's the truth.... that's what we said..uh huh.

if thats the case...dont call it a vaccine, you dont hear of folks getting polio after getting that vax. A majority of all cases right now are from vaxxed folks. These shots seem to actually dumb down your immune system. My wife is having to deal with vaxxed folks complaining of side effects from the shots and having symptons bad enough to go get tested and test positive for covid. They arent hearing from the unvaxxed.

One reason it is morphing as quick as it is because we didn't let if run its course, we forced a quazi vax on folks too quickly. It usually takes years to start seeing the variants but its caught on quick due to the mass vaccinations.

Companies wanted to cash in on a cure for the common covids for many years. The best they came up with is their animal quarters full of dead ferrets.

There are no synthetic vaccine cures, unless you include the zinc uptake compounds and ivermectin in that category.
God made certain botanicals to cure viral infections.
He gave a powerful immune system that responds well to proper care and numerous additional plants to enhance aspects of that..ië killer T cells/ neutrophils.

The neighbor needs to be going off on China and the folks that started this mess, its not the unvaxxed fault.

From what I saw recently the survival rate of 20-69 year olds is 99.74%. So 1 in 385 known Covid cases will die from Covid. Not the plague, not even close. "Ain't the same f'n ballpark. It ain't the same league, it ain't even the same f'n sport. Look (Covid) don't mean sh!!t." That neighbor has been gobbling up the left MSMs narrative hook, line and sinker.

Nope. Not even that. Only that many who get it will die of it. Most don't get it. Then you have to factor into the equation the fact that that percentage of deaths (99.74%) is fake to start with, because they were counting as COVID deaths everybody who died while COVID19 positive on the PCR test, and the PCR test is worthless as a diagnostic tool (positive doesn't even mean you have COVID19). So, someone comes in from a car wreck, or a shooting victim comes in, and dies of his injuries, it's counted as a COVID19 death if the PCR test says he's positive. That's how they got that percentage.

I should have said known cases, that wasn't speaking of the entire population.

Supposedly they have corrected the numbers for the other deaths, like the Seattle shootings that were Covid deaths, but who really knows. Still probably over exaggerated.

OUCH !!

Needed to be said again !

The actual survival rate is much height than 99.7%.

Millions of People have contracted Covid and either didn’t know it, or didn’t report it. Add those asymptotic patients and the survival rate goes up.

Simply not true.

I got a call from a friend the other day, he experienced something no man should ever have to. The family was having dinner and while in mid sentence his daughter stopped talking. Her mother asked what’s wrong and she replied, “I feel a little dizzy “.
Two seconds later this otherwise healthy mid forties young lady was gone.
The initial findings indicated a major heart event triggered by a blood clot. No further information has been given.
I’m pretty much still in shock since I’ve known her since birth. I cannot fathom what her parents are going through.

Vaccinated recently?

What does that have to do with the Shot?

Have you not been paying attention?

But do they offer protection?

But Florida tryed that and they have 30% of the cases of COVID-19 right now and the hospitals are over run. Sweden tryed that and there death rate

Compared to Norway, Denmark, and Finland was about 4 times more deaths.

It should be obvious to you that if someone has the shot, then has any kind of medical condition, or even dies, that it was caused by the shot. It's the well proven scientific theory of correlation equals causation.

Hospitals are overrun/
According to whom? MSM?
Just mask up lil' buddy and everything will be A-O-K

I knew a gal that died from a blood clot,,,,,,,

She was sitting eating lunch, then suddenly fell from her chair and died

Age 34


this was 30 some years ago,,,,

In 30 years of EMS in a midsized city we had many episodes such as you describe. People who seem healthy die all the time.

Yet when people go to the Florida hospitals to video the COVID19 case overrun, they find nothing unusual.

On Sweden

https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/sweden-despite-variants-no-lockdowns-no-daily-covid-deaths

The word is “tried” not “tryed”.

Just a few days before she died

There is a rod with two snakes and a rod with a single snake. The rod with two snakes is the caduceus or the Rod of Hermes. The rod with a single snake is commonly referred to as the Rod of Asclepius. Those are the interpretations from Greek mythology, though the significance of at least one of the rods predates the Greek use. You will notice that as the symbolism applies to the contemporary medical profession, there is a conflict represented in which type of rod is displayed.

Ultimately, the single-snake bearing rod's genesis was with Moses from the time the fiery serpents were plaguing the children of Israel in the wilderness. Notice first that the Lord sent the serpents (Numbers 21:6). The Lord instructed Moses to make a serpent of brass on a pole: "And the LORD said unto Moses, Make thee a fiery serpent, and set it upon a pole: and it shall come to pass, that every one that is bitten, when he looketh upon it, shall live. And Moses made a serpent of brass, and put it upon a pole, and it came to pass, that if a serpent had bitten any man, when he beheld the serpent of brass, he lived." Numbers 21:8-9

What is the significance of this seemingly superstitious practice? Paul gives us the answer in the first twelve versus of 1 Corinthians 10, but it suffices to summarize it with the eleventh: "all these things happened unto them for ensamples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come." So how should we regard this example of the brass serpent?

"And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:
That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life." -- Jesus

My baby girl is an ICU nurse. The cases they are getting now are 30’s-40’s that are not vaccinated. They don’t have any vaccinated people in there, because the vaccinated people don’t get it or it’s a very mild case.

What are the number of those who had covid previously and have anti bodies?

So zero people who are vaccinated never catch covid and are hospitalized?

Sounds wonderful

An ICU nurse would only be seeing patients that were quite sick. Those that had immunity from previous infection would not likely end up there either.

Obviously vaccinated people are still ending up in hospitals and dying and spreading the virus that’s why I thought is post was funny

Why no data on millions who have anti bodies and aren’t vaccinated?

You may go to the high IQ lounge

LOL

People with immunity from previous infection, like those who are vaccinated, rarely get severe COVID disease. This was the point of the much misquoted Cleveland Clinic data release. People who don’t get sick don’t really become “data points”.

I’m only telling you how it is at the hospital where she works. She has been in the front line of this crap since it has started. At first it was older people with health issues, she says it hits Blacks and Hispanics harder than Whites. All I know is what she is telling me.

Whooptie fugking doo , Hanco

Threads like this one(and numerous others here) are a good example of why real, accurate data is hard to come by and why anecdotal evidence is pretty well worthless. In one thread we have people claiming direct knowledge of hospitals with almost exclusively unvaccinated patients and those with almost exclusively vaccinated patients. How likely is it that both are true? Possible, I suppose. Can also find data online to support either position. I don't blame people for questioning either side. This would be less of a problem if people felt ok with making their own choices and letting others do the same, but I guess that's not how most people work.

Duh, some basic data they are purposefully not gathering

Why isn't she wearing a good N95 face mask and a face shield or goggles to protect her eyes? Back in January I spent the night in a hospital emergency ward that was supposed to be overrun with COVID-19 patients. I only saw one nurse that was suited up in a pressurized suit with a HEPA filter on her back. The rest of the nurses had on the cheap blue masks like you can buy at the grocery store. I never wore a face mask the whole time I was there and nobody asked me to. I had the freedom to get up and go anywhere I wanted to in the emergency ward. If I needed to go to the bathroom I just unplugged my IV and went. My hot red headed nurse showed me how to do it safely.

Spring, He's full of schit. Don't even bother reading his dribble.

So here is some completely anecdotal actual ICU numbers of the hospital I'm working at tonight.

Average age of COVID admitted patients is 79 and 80% were not vaccinated.

A whopping total of 5 patients. Ask me the numbers in two days and they will probably change quite a bit.

Patients we have scheduled for monoclonal antibodies on an outpatient basis is currently running at 33% not vaccinated. Grand total of three patients.

They keep talking about “Covid ‘CASES’ are up”, but they’re not talking about the low number of deaths. This past month has been the least ‘deadly’ month since the pandemic began. They’re talking about “CASES” now because deaths are so low.

They’ve talked about cases the whole time

I agree with Antlers, they used to talk both a lot, nothing about deaths now as that doesn’t fit media’s narrative. So misleading.

I think the video that 7mmbuster posted on the other thread about the Manufacturing of a Mass Psychosis shows precisely what we’ve been seeing and experiencing in this country since March of 2019 in particular.

Crisis sells the news. Besides, if they talked deaths, people would just question whether they're actually covid deaths or caused by comorbidities. The death stats are easy to manipulate for whatever narrative you want. It's like a grown-up game of "cooties" with the shot and everything, only the consequence for some, however few or many, is more than just a little anxiety from being stimagtized and teased (they just say "bullied" these days). Some people really die or lose people they care about, and for some it really would not have happened so soon were it not for Covid. Other people really do have their business or their livliehood disrupted or shutdown.

A real dilemma Covid is presenting is how to express compassion and care toward people when an ideological opponent has assummed ownership of and has identified with the few sensible measures to demonstrate care.

The radical-liberal/progressive/Democrat/tyrants jumped on this pandemic early because they saw it had the potential to disrupt the Trump re-election train. They identified with masks, vaccines, moratoriums, shutdowns, and everything that would wreck the overheated economy that Trump was banking on for re-election.

I'm young, I'm healthy, and I'm not afraid of Covid, but I want to show compassion for the people that are being affected by it in very real ways. I want to wear a mask to say, "I care about your Grandma. I don't even know if it will work or not, but I'll do what I can for you." But if I wear a mask, I'm identified with the dicks that wrecked your business and ruined your life savings.

I want to get a vaccine so I'm less likely to be a vector for the disease where I spread the virus to you or someone you care about. But if I get a shot, I validate the adoption of these vaccines about which there are still a lot of questions, and I become part of the population that's distinct from those who exercise their liberty to abstain from it. They become the persecuted minority, vulnerable to those who would tyranize them with mandates and passports.

Before everyone could get vaccinated, I isolated myself because it was the best way I could figure out to show compassion for others. Once vaccines were available to everyone that wanted one, I figured they then had a better way to protect themselves than for me to continue isolating. I also got vaccinated so that I would be less likely to infect others. I don't think the vaccines work as effectively as the popular claims, but I think in many cases they do improve the outcome of exposure. I don't think face masks are effective either, but I will wear one wherever it's requested because I'm willing to do what I can for compassion's sake.

I know some of my brothers and sisters who are called by our Lord Jesus are strongly opposed to masks and vaccines, especially because the opponents of the love of God, the pro-death sons of the devil are for masks and vaccines.

"With your permission," said Tock, changing the subject, "we'd like to rescue Rhyme and Reason."
"Has Azaz agreed to it?" the Mathemagician inquired.
"Yes, sir," the dog assured him.
"THEN I DON'T," he thundered again, "for since they've been banished, we've never agreed on anything—and we never will."
He emphasized his last remark with a dark and ominous look.
"Never?" asked Milo, with the slightest touch of disbelief in his voice.
"NEVER!" he repeated. "And if you can prove otherwise, you have my permission to go."
"Well," said Milo, who had thought about this problem very carefully ever since leaving Dictionopolis. "Then with whatever Azaz agrees, you disagree."
"Correct," said the Mathemagician with a tolerant smile.
"And with whatever Azaz disagrees, you agree."
"Also correct," yawned the Mathemagician, nonchalantly cleaning his fingernails with the point of his staff.
"Then each of you agrees that he will disagree with whatever each of you agrees with," said Milo triumphantly; "and if you both disagree with the same thing, then aren't you really in agreement?"

What I want to know is how we can show compassion in a real and tangible way. Our adversaries have learned to ascribe empty "thoughts and prayers" to us and mock them. Especially if we're not willing to accept masks and vaccines that so many people are convinced might be able to help, how can we demonstrate any kind of real care and compassion? Is really caring and compassionate if we're just waiting an hoping that as this drags on longer and more people are affected by it that the failure of masks and vaccines validates our position?

Same as always: By feeling, and being sensitive to, someone’s pain and discomfort and difficulties...and also being motivated to do something about it, to relieve it, to make it better. Whatever that might be. And remember that this also includes towards yourself. It’s not just towards others.

You seem like a nice guy but I’m pretty sure I won’t let “feelings of compassion” win over common sense and logic. Follow your gut and do the right thing.

Logic is the way to go and sometimes they just need to man up and except what you can't chang or control like nature for instance

???????? Satire? Or is the IQ guy havin’ a stroke?

Good catch

Actually, it would be “accept “ and not “except “ in this setting. No penalty for spelling or punctuation, so your high IQ should remain intact. Full IQ amnesty if the error is alcohol driven.

So what you're saying is we need to be compassionate, like Spock.

Live long and prosper. A guy could do worse. Plus, he could do that neck pinch thing. So, he had that goin’ for him.

What's wrong with Spock?

Compassion is best demonstrated by remaining calm and carrying with your life as usual so that you can provide a positive example of how a free clear thinking man should live.

Exactly 💯. Lead by example

Nothing wrong with being a good example, but is that really the best way to show compassion?

I guess the Good Samaritan could have just kept walking. Sometimes compassion means getting your hands dirty. Bonus if you help without waiting to be asked. JMO.

So, just in case you weren’t paying attention, which clearly you weren’t, I’m responding to someone talking about wearing masks and isolating themselves in some sort of misguided belief that those acts demonstrate compassion. That’s it.

Seems to have gotten derailed into changing flats and stuff

I find I'm a lot more compassionate when I stay away from others and they stay away from me.

Mister -

I do like the cut of your jib.



Please, carry on...

She does when in the patient rooms

I work in a hospital , last Thursday we had 36 covid patients of them 2 had been vaccinated. Of tests we have run the average has been around 15% positive, all most all have not been vaccinated.

Been on here since 2009 and have 6 posts...

Thought the Bologna virus got ya Ethan

I had some lung infection way back in either late '19 or early '20 and haven't been significantly ill since then, nor taken any shots.

Bot.

Nice story BOT 🤖

I work in a setting where large groups of people live closely together 24/7. Our current outbreak has stats opposite of yours.

Follow the "science".

From NPR no less.

Long-Term Studies Of COVID-19 Vaccines Hurt By Placebo Recipients Getting Immunized


https://www.npr.org/sections/health...ecipients-getting-immuni?t=1628416291657

Probly cause most of your vaccinated patients are not coming in for Covid related problems.. instead it’s heart attacks , strokes, Bell’s palsy , seizures, involuntary muscle spasms , dizziness. And a host of other stuff that is not being told to the public.
If you want the shot fine , making up crap and trying to extort others and force other into getting is criminal.. no other word for it.

Spot on.

I agree,this goes beyond Covid 19.

Absolutely. I've said the same thing about the government and gun control for years.

The USA death rate is 1.74%.

Sure it is. Keep believing what they tell you dummy.

Bet it's lower than that actually

For what? And what time period?

And for whatever do you have a source?

Spoken by a “sheep” with half a brain.

You are giving him way to much credit!!! Half a brain? I think not…

Is your figure for people who had covid or for the whole population. Makes a big difference. The we are all gonna die crowd just kinda use any figure they want. And nobody dieing from the flu or pneumonia is a little shady also. Edk

Current death percentage per John Hopkins University is 1.7%. Or 187.97 deaths per 100,000. Don,t believe the numbers, well when you are laying in a hospital it is to late to get a vaccine.

people in the hospital are begging for one every day to save them. But time has passed. Your choice. Six or eight months ago there was no choice, there is now, make the correct one.

You all have a great day. Each person has to make up his own mind, unless your employer makes it up for you. I here the Military is going to require everyone of them to have the vaccination.

Thanks Don Lemon.

Well math sure as hell isn't their strong suit.

Columbia University has made the statement after much study that actual cases are likely to be 10 TIMES what is reported as confirmed cases.
Therefore, the actual death rate percentage is 10 TIMES less than what is being reported.

You can keep bleating 1.74% but that's not going to make your dream come true. That is wildly inaccurate.

Which puts overall[full pop.] deaths at .000003
Just to give perspective[nowhere near accurate, yet as accurate as GT's BS].

And just where did you get your medical degree, JimmyGrace?

That is the percentage of deaths on VERIFIED cases. This doesn't include the cases where no verification was done. The actual death rate is much much lower. Yes, I got the J&J, everyone needs to determine their own situation.