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I never served in the Military, but it seems this proposal has merit.

From RealClearHistory....

https://www.sandboxx.us/blog/we-were-soldiers-effort-to-rename-benning-fort-moore-gains-steam/
Renaming any post us a bad idea. It would be like throwing out American history. Hal Moore was a great soldier but he can't supersede history.

kwg
Their gonna rename Ft Hood in TX too.

Of course named after General John Bell Hood, Confederate Commander of The 4th Texas Infantry Regiment.

Largest Military Base in the USA
Need to change Washington DC to Hiden Biden first.

These jerk offs that want to eliminate names are as bad as the ones in Washington that want to eliminate the laws now in place to protect the republic.

If you give into this you might as well vote for gun control..
Originally Posted by MarkWV
Need to change Washington DC to Hiden Biden first.

These jerk offs that want to eliminate names are as bad as the ones in Washington that want to eliminate the laws now in place to protect the republic.

If you give into this you might as well vote for gun control..


Well said. Ooops, Ft Sam Houston is also named for a former slave holder and murderer of mexicans. What would be an appropriate name ?

kwg
Originally Posted by kwg020
Originally Posted by MarkWV
Need to change Washington DC to Hiden Biden first.

These jerk offs that want to eliminate names are as bad as the ones in Washington that want to eliminate the laws now in place to protect the republic.

If you give into this you might as well vote for gun control..


Well said. Ooops, Ft Sam Houston is also named for a former slave holder and murderer of mexicans. What would be an appropriate name ?

kwg


Probably Ft George Floyd. 😡
I've got news for the uneducated PC crowd: Since the former Confederate states were re-admitted to the union, Confederate history became a part of U.S. history. Whether they like it or not, or me for that matter, thirteen of the fifty stars on the U.S. flag are for former Confederate states. Think about that the next time it is saluted. Furthermore, by a joint resolution of the U.S. Congress, it was declared that all Confederate veterans are to be recognized as being U.S. veterans and entitled to recognition as such. It is called reconciliation.
Not sure where you are going with that.


I'm American.

No qualifiers, no BS. No stupid little games.

It's all my history.

Changing names, taking down statues to soldiers, BS every bit.

Slavery, confederacy, whatever they call the hate for Columbus,
It's just the beginning. The goal is to erase where we came from,
and what we stood for. After they build a socialist schithole.
First off, I'd like the names of the forts to stay the same, it looks like that isn't going to happen. I'm all for naming forts after military hero's who won the MOH, Fort Audie Murphy or Fort John Basilone. Oh wait, that's racist, they are all (mostly) white!
Renaming Benning will be the last straw for me. I was so ready to retire when I did. Today's (or yesterdays) Army is not my Army. The last couple of years I was in you could drive around on post and see guys in uniform walking down the sidewalk holding hands. I just grew tired of the changes. Benning has some of my best memories. If they rename that, it really won't be my Army.
Maybe we should rename the Alamo too.
Originally Posted by kwg020
Renaming any post us a bad idea. It would be like throwing out American history. Hal Moore was a great soldier but he can't supersede history.

kwg

I agree. Renaming anything is capitulation. Our history is what it is.
SMH....
Army Infantry 83 to 08.....

Really beginning to hate my "own" country at times.

Left one america in 83
Released into another in 08...
You wanta talk about being in a bubble then seeing it pop and wondering WTF happened to this country.....

I'm disfunctional as fugg in your average sheep persons eyes I geuss....

Like some shawshank redemption schit getting outta prison minus the "Brooks was here" schit.....
The cost alone should say don't do it.
I like Benning better . It’s idiotic to try and rewrite or erase history.
Since Joe Biden got the most votes ever , he should definitely have something named after him. Are there any historic outhouses in Scranton?
Does renaming a fort improve military rediness? Hell no. The military is not a social experiment it is a fighting force FFS. Rnaming creates a period of confusion and costs will be staggering. If the name change is near a crisis the results could be catastrophic. Absolute bullchittt.
Originally Posted by renegade50
SMH....
Army Infantry 83 to 08.....

Really beginning to hate my "own" country at times.

Left one america in 83
Released into another in 08...
You wanta talk about being in a bubble then seeing it pop and wondering WTF happened to this country.....

I'm disfunctional as fugg in your average sheep persons eyes I geuss....

Like some shawshank redemption schit getting outta prison minus the "Brooks was here" schit.....

89-11, yep
I am sure many of us have fond or not memories of Benning. AIT, Jump School, Ranger School for me. I chewed a lot of ground there and served with many heroes. I was not one of them!
My uncle was retired Army and finished his career there as an instructor on the Dragon missile. We would go down every summer and see them and my aunt would drag me all over Ft. Benning.
Later, I went for basic, AIT and Airborne school and then my oldest son went there for basic, AIT and Airborne School.
When I left Sand Hill I never dreamed that some day I would be returning for my son’s graduation.
No matter what they call it, it will always be Ft. Benning to me.
Originally Posted by JTrapper73
My uncle was retired Army and finished his career there as an instructor on the Dragon missile. We would go down every summer and see them and my aunt would drag me all over Ft. Benning.
Later, I went for basic, AIT and Airborne school and then my oldest son went there for basic, AIT and Airborne School.
When I left Sand Hill I never dreamed that some day I would be returning for my son’s graduation.
No matter what they call it, it will always be Ft. Benning to me.


Same here. I went through DTC in 1981. Was your uncle with the cadre? A friend of mine from IOBC was the OIC then. Last name was Epps.
Originally Posted by EIB0879
Originally Posted by JTrapper73
My uncle was retired Army and finished his career there as an instructor on the Dragon missile. We would go down every summer and see them and my aunt would drag me all over Ft. Benning.
Later, I went for basic, AIT and Airborne school and then my oldest son went there for basic, AIT and Airborne School.
When I left Sand Hill I never dreamed that some day I would be returning for my son’s graduation.
No matter what they call it, it will always be Ft. Benning to me.


Same here. I went through DTC in 1981. Was your uncle with the cadre? A friend of mine from IOBC was the OIC then. Last name was Epps.

Yes, cadre, or that was my understanding per my aunt .He retired in 1979. SSG Dennis Trowbridge, not much over five feet tall……...passed away in 1997.
Three tours RVN.
Originally Posted by JTrapper73
Originally Posted by EIB0879
Originally Posted by JTrapper73
My uncle was retired Army and finished his career there as an instructor on the Dragon missile. We would go down every summer and see them and my aunt would drag me all over Ft. Benning.
Later, I went for basic, AIT and Airborne school and then my oldest son went there for basic, AIT and Airborne School.
When I left Sand Hill I never dreamed that some day I would be returning for my son’s graduation.
No matter what they call it, it will always be Ft. Benning to me.


Same here. I went through DTC in 1981. Was your uncle with the cadre? A friend of mine from IOBC was the OIC then. Last name was Epps.

Yes, cadre, or that was my understanding per my aunt .He retired in 1979. SSG Dennis Trowbridge, not much over five feet tall……...passed away in 1997.
Three tours RVN.


He might have been there when we went to shoot the LET during IOBC.
EIB,
He may have been working on some other range in 79. Hard to say.
Those guys would stay at Ft. Benning for years. They would get assigned as a Drill sergeant and after they fulfilled their time on the trail they would get a job on a range or somewhere else.
When I was there in 91, almost all of the range cadre had a drill sergeant patch on their BDU’s. The right breast pocket as I recall.
Not all, but a lot of them did.
Originally Posted by kingston
Maybe we should rename the Alamo too.


Technically it was Mission San Antonio de Valero, the term “Alamo” (cottonwood) came into common usage after a rapid-response frontier defense outfit from deeper in Mexico was stationed there in that old mission for 32 years before the siege.

The members of the Segunda Compania de San Carlos de Parras were mostly from the Mexican town of San Jose y Santiago de Alamo de Parras so the outfit was simply referred to as Alamo de Parras for short.

Long association with the derelict mission cause it to to be referred to in common usage as “El Alamo”.

http://www.sonsofdewittcolony.org/adp/history/hispanic_period/pframe.html


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Originally Posted by Birdwatcher
Originally Posted by kingston
Maybe we should rename the Alamo too.


Technically it was Mission San Antonio de Valero, the term “Alamo” (cottonwood) came into common usage after a rapid-response frontier defense outfit from deeper in Mexico was stationed there in that old mission for 32 years before the siege.

The members of the Segunda Compania de San Carlos de Parras were mostly from the Mexican town of San Jose y Santiago de Alamo de Parras so the outfit was simply referred to as Alamo de Parras for short.

Long association with the derelict mission cause it to to be referred to in common usage as “El Alamo”.

http://www.sonsofdewittcolony.org/adp/history/hispanic_period/pframe.html



So, it's already been renamed once, but by Mexicans.
Originally Posted by MarkWV
Need to change Washington DC to Hiden Biden fist.

FTFY
Wouldn't be surprised if Bagram Air Base gets changed to BIDEN Air Base.....

He gave it to 'em.
Appropriate name. It’s amazing that the military buildup to get equipment to the war zone is done with precision and organization. They leave all the used stuff so they can buy new.
Originally Posted by kingston
Originally Posted by Birdwatcher
Originally Posted by kingston
Maybe we should rename the Alamo too.


Technically it was Mission San Antonio de Valero, the term “Alamo” (cottonwood) came into common usage after a rapid-response frontier defense outfit from deeper in Mexico was stationed there in that old mission for 32 years before the siege.

The members of the Segunda Compania de San Carlos de Parras were mostly from the Mexican town of San Jose y Santiago de Alamo de Parras so the outfit was simply referred to as Alamo de Parras for short.

Long association with the derelict mission cause it to to be referred to in common usage as “El Alamo”.

http://www.sonsofdewittcolony.org/adp/history/hispanic_period/pframe.html



So, it's already been renamed once, but by Mexicans.


Hadn’t thought of that.

The year before they posted Alamo de Parras there a major Comanche raid stole 300 horses, virtually every horse owned by the five missions and during that period ran off with about 200 women and kids.

Ya don’t hear much of that after the arrival of that Flying Company, light cavalry, so they may have been pretty good.

By the time of the Alamo, hundreds of two-wheeled Mexican ox-carts out of San Antonio were crossing the plains, and would remain a major form of freight conveyance up until the coming of the railroad in the 1870’s. Each ox cart with an attendant family, hauling up to around 500lbs an average of seven miles a day.

Maybe 300 Tejano households in San Antonio all wanted a buffalo in the fall. The long horned African cattle brung in by the Spanish carried at least two diseases lethal to buffalo such that by the 1830’s you had to go 100 miles north and west of town to find buffalo. They did this every year, with those same seven mile/day carretas. Heck they even brung in blocks of New England ice packed in sawdust from the coast, took them two weeks one way from Corpus Christi Bay.

So clearly things had changed w/respect to the Indios by the time of the Alamo.
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