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Posted By: Remsen Drop outs - 08/29/21
My nephew just made me very proud...he dropped out of college.

He enrolled at a local college in the SF Bay Area and got hit with the critical racist theory crap. In his first college math class the instructor told the students that everything they knew about math was a product of white supremacy and racism, and they would first have to unlearn things before they can be taught. Same thing happened in the English class.

My nephew thought I'd be angry when he told me that he was dropping out and was going to trade school (most likely to be an electrician), but I told him that I'm incredibly proud that he thinks for himself and saw what was going on. Plus, I told him that he'll be much happier as an electrician than if he had graduated with some liberal arts degree and had to work in an office.

I hope a lot more kids are taking the same route.

Edited to note: his father is Mexican, so he was getting a free ride from the state and could have gone to any university he wanted to in the state (maybe not Stanford, but every UC campus for sure). He knew what he was giving up but he wanted nothing to do with the social justice nonsense.
Posted By: dale06 Re: Drop outs - 08/29/21
Smart kid.
Posted By: SBTCO Re: Drop outs - 08/29/21
Cool! definitely a better course of action.
He can learn that other crap on his own and pick and choose who writes the material.
Posted By: jackmountain Re: Drop outs - 08/29/21
Know two young men, dropped out after the first semester. Both are in sales, and at 22 and 19 respectively, they’re both making $100k plus.
Posted By: ribka Re: Drop outs - 08/29/21
definitely has a good head on his shoulders and will surpass his peers
Posted By: Oldman03 Re: Drop outs - 08/29/21
Good for him.
Posted By: Beaver10 Re: Drop outs - 08/29/21
High praise from you, and a smart and directed young dude he is.

🦫
Posted By: flintlocke Re: Drop outs - 08/29/21
Good for him. He is taking a lonely path, help him where you can.
Posted By: BigDave39355 Re: Drop outs - 08/29/21
Tell him find a trade school.
Posted By: Tarquin Re: Drop outs - 08/29/21
Good for him. I would not recommend college for anyone today.
Posted By: mtnsnake Re: Drop outs - 08/29/21
Check out master electrician, plumber, HVAC or all three for residential service.
Posted By: AcesNeights Re: Drop outs - 08/29/21
Good for him! Perhaps the biggest takeaway from this is that there are a lot of young men in women in this country that can and DO think for themselves despite the incredible amount of peer pressure and social bullying they’re subjected to, in social media and in society. It’s something I am privy to every day with my son and daughter, both of whom are proudly white (1/4 Vietnamese actually 😁), conservative, Christians. For your nephew to have made such a choice, despite the free ride and party time that awaited him in the State University system, is likely proof that he’ll succeed and flourish while his former classmates are paying large fractions of their measly salary to therapists and pharmacists the rest of their lives. 😂

Our son chose the same path as your nephew coincidentally, he too is working toward being an electrician.
Posted By: kamo_gari Re: Drop outs - 08/29/21
Kid has options. World, meet Pancho Eisenhymerberggoldman. Let's talk turkey, and enough being mashugana already, oy!
Posted By: FatCity67 Re: Drop outs - 08/29/21
Many be surprised how many Mexijews there are.
Posted By: 2ndwind Re: Drop outs - 08/29/21
Defund "woke".
Posted By: SamOlson Re: Drop outs - 08/29/21
I dropped out of college.

(big surprise)

Spent a couple years working in my uncle's grocery store.

Did concrete work in Bozeman for 7-8 years.



Went broke, got lazy and moved back home.
Posted By: Mac84 Re: Drop outs - 08/29/21
Just dropped my son off at university today. He wants to be a doctor so if that’s his dream he better stick with college. My youngest wants nothing to do with college even though he’s an honor student. He’s going for his physical and verification test on Monday with the Army
Posted By: K1500 Re: Drop outs - 08/29/21
If a kid has a good head on their shoulders, they know how to sort the wheat from the chaff. Part of life is figuring out how to deal with jerks. Jerk clients, jerk acquaintances, jerk bosses, jerk teachers, etc. Sometimes you can’t run away from them. My guess is in his heart he knew that college and a college based career wasn’t really what he wanted to do with his life. Nothing wrong with that, and identifying his interests early will save time and money. In any event, good for him for making a decision to better himself and to follow his gut and heart.
Posted By: AcesNeights Re: Drop outs - 08/29/21
Originally Posted by SamOlson
I dropped out of college.

(big surprise)

Spent a couple years working in my uncle's grocery store.

Did concrete work in Bozeman for 7-8 years.



Went broke, got lazy and moved back home.


Thank you. That’s the American way.

Keep up the good work.
Posted By: add Re: Drop outs - 08/29/21
What he was expecting, enrolling in a SanFran local college?
Posted By: AcesNeights Re: Drop outs - 08/29/21
Originally Posted by add
What he was expecting, enrolling in a SanFran local college?


No I don’t think Sam Olson was expecting to enroll in San Francisco local college. I think Sam was looking for a more immersive college experience like Berkeley, but then he got drunk, lazy and forgot about his dreams. 😉
Posted By: mathman Re: Drop outs - 08/29/21
It seems Sam has achieved his dream of immersion in crap beer and ganja. laugh
Posted By: ironbender Re: Drop outs - 08/29/21
Originally Posted by SamOlson
I dropped out of college.

(big surprise)

Spent a couple years working in my uncle's grocery store.

Did concrete work in Bozeman for 7-8 years.


Went broke, got lazy and moved back home.

Probably never so happy to work your ass off.
Posted By: Valsdad Re: Drop outs - 08/29/21
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In his first college math class the instructor told the students that everything they knew about math was a product of white supremacy and racism, and they would first have to unlearn things before they can be taught.


I'm afraid your nephew is a lot nicer than I am.

I'd have had to raise my hand and ask the teacher, probably in a loud voice...............
"WTF does white supremacy and racism have to do with MATH.......................1+1 = 2 no matter what your skin color, Pythagorus came up with a theorem that still seems to hold true no matter what f'n continent ones ancestors came from, and I enrolled in this class to learn MATH. If I wanted lessons in Social Studies I'd be in one of those classes right now, so get to scribbling some figures on that chalk board"

Then again, I'm old and grumpy, and before I was young and grumpy and still had issues with BS.

Good luck to your nephew.

PS you're an insider I've heard..................is this part of the Joo plan to conquer the world? whistle
Posted By: Birdwatcher Re: Drop outs - 08/29/21
Hoo boy, I got curious about how this “White Privilege Math” thing could possibly work.

The answer is of course that it doesn’t. If ya wanna read a bunch of crap, here’s an example.....

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/524199/
Posted By: Birdwatcher Re: Drop outs - 08/29/21
Non-White Math that worked; teach in English and everyone worked their a$$es off.

Of course this came from a Bolivian so he prob’ly didn’t get it....

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaime_Escalante

Posted By: mathman Re: Drop outs - 08/29/21
Notice the preponderance of professors of Education in the production of that bullshit. Colleges of Education have long been repositories for the weakest students on campus.
Posted By: Valsdad Re: Drop outs - 08/29/21
Originally Posted by Birdwatcher
Non-White Math that worked; teach in English and everyone worked their a$$es off.

Of course this came from a Bolivian so he prob’ly didn’t get it....

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaime_Escalante



That first one lost me at the third paragraph...................she didn't "feel" comfortable approaching her own math teacher? I'm not a feelings kind of guy I guess.

The rest of it wasn't understandable to a guy a like me.

As to Escalante................well Mike, you do realize he's probably not really "non-White". I bet there's a Spaniard in the woodpile somewhere.

I feel terrible for my younger relatives, nieces and nephews and their children. I won't be around to see the New World as they will.
Posted By: Valsdad Re: Drop outs - 08/29/21
Originally Posted by mathman
Notice the preponderance of professors of Education in the production of that bullshit. Colleges of Education have long been repositories for the weakest students on campus.

mathman,

is that an alternate take on "Those who can't.....................teach" ?

and those who REALLY can't..................teach teaching??? grin
Posted By: Ducksanddogs Re: Drop outs - 08/29/21
Originally Posted by BigDave39355
Tell him find a trade school.





Read.
Posted By: Birdwatcher Re: Drop outs - 08/29/21
Originally Posted by mathman
Notice the preponderance of professors of Education in the production of that bullshit..


Yep, first thing I noticed too. I can only assume that, in the age of Critical Race Theory, from here on in Education Professors are gonna be selected for being even dumber.

All this Critical Race folderol reminds me of of Academics in Hitler’s Germany and their “Aryan Science”.
Posted By: milespatton Re: Drop outs - 08/29/21
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“A lot of times in whiteness literature, we talk about the refusal to pathologize whiteness, and this is a case,” Battey explained. “For African Americans, for Native Americans, for Latinos in mathematics, we attribute something internally to the child or internally to the culture that's making them achieve lower. We don’t do that for white students … producing some deficit idea about who whites are.”
This is from Birdwatchers link. I can remember back when people from Arkansas were considered backwards hillbillies, by most of the nation, no matter how educated they were. Most people here did not get upset about it. miles
Posted By: Sako76 Re: Drop outs - 08/29/21
I'm still trying to figure out why Mexicans go to college for free! Your nephew needs to look at colleges outside of Cali.
Posted By: BobMt Re: Drop outs - 08/29/21
Originally Posted by Sako76
I'm still trying to figure out why Mexicans go to college for free! Your nephew needs to look at colleges outside of Cali.


lost me at that one also......bob
Posted By: SuperCub Re: Drop outs - 08/29/21
Originally Posted by Remsen
My nephew thought I'd be angry when he told me that he was dropping out and was going to trade school (most likely to be an electrician), but I told him that I'm incredibly proud that he thinks for himself and saw what was going on. Plus, I told him that he'll be much happier as an electrician than if he had graduated with some liberal arts degree and had to work in an office.


That's a great move on a lot of different levels, esp the trades direction.
Posted By: WMR Re: Drop outs - 08/29/21
“Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life”, according to Dean Wormer. IMO, raise a kid raised with good values and good examples will usually end up doing ok. If parents walk the walk the kid will be pretty BS proof. Teach them to think for themselves and they’ll make you proud. Like the poster who’s kid wants to be a doc, sometimes you’ve got to navigate the minefield. One can disagree without being disagreeable. Lots of paths to a good life.
Posted By: HunterShooter58 Re: Drop outs - 08/29/21
Originally Posted by WMR
“Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life”, according to Dean Wormer. IMO, raise a kid raised with good values and good examples will usually end up doing ok. If parents walk the walk the kid will be pretty BS proof. Teach them to think for themselves and they’ll make you proud. Like the poster who’s kid wants to be a doc, sometimes you’ve got to navigate the minefield. One can disagree without being disagreeable. Lots of paths to a good life.



Very True!
Posted By: EdM Re: Drop outs - 08/29/21
Originally Posted by K1500
If a kid has a good head on their shoulders, they know how to sort the wheat from the chaff. Part of life is figuring out how to deal with jerks. Jerk clients, jerk acquaintances, jerk bosses, jerk teachers, etc. Sometimes you can’t run away from them. My guess is in his heart he knew that college and a college based career wasn’t really what he wanted to do with his life. Nothing wrong with that, and identifying his interests early will save time and money. In any event, good for him for making a decision to better himself and to follow his gut and heart.


Yep. And an engineering degree is usually not bad.
Posted By: JeffyD Re: Drop outs - 08/29/21
Smart decision. My youngest son knew college wasn't for him. Went to trade school, became an electrician, and bought his house at age 24.

The 24-year-olds where I work act like babies whose only aspirations are waiting for the next video game to become available.

Son tells me he loves his job, and looks forward to going to work every day. What a blessing!
Posted By: Rock Chuck Re: Drop outs - 08/29/21
Maybe this white math thing came about because all of the laws of math, physics, chemistry, etc. were discovered by educated whites. Not created by whites but discovered by them. The laws have always been there for anyone to discover but it's mainly been whites who have done it.
Posted By: Dillonbuck Re: Drop outs - 08/29/21
We have a daughter in 9th grade, one just graduated.
The older doesn't know what she wants, works 1-2 jobs and
is trying to figure it out before she buys it.

Both are above average intelligent, not geniuses.

But this White Math thing?
It's bullschidt.
The world is full of lazy math teachers. (After emementary, all of ours)

It's full of prejudice too.
One daughter is tiny, outgoing.
The other isn't.
They automatically get treated different. And the teachers that take the
time to get to know the reserved one, love her. Many don't.

And socio-economic factors kick in.
We are blue collar, not joiners, reserved. In a smaller school system.
Our kids, not sure how to say it, they aren't punished, but they are pushed
behind the favored.

Thing is, it's just life. It's not easy, it's not "fair".
We all do it, we favor those we know, like, are similar too.
It's something one has to work to avoid.

If we were any minority, we could label it. And be victims.

This isn't a cry fest.
It's normal.
Every single person deals with it in some form, in some situation.
Posted By: OldmanoftheSea Re: Drop outs - 08/29/21
Originally Posted by Valsdad
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In his first college math class the instructor told the students that everything they knew about math was a product of white supremacy and racism, and they would first have to unlearn things before they can be taught.


I'm afraid your nephew is a lot nicer than I am.

I'd have had to raise my hand and ask the teacher, probably in a loud voice...............
"WTF does white supremacy and racism have to do with MATH.......................1+1 = 2 no matter what your skin color, Pythagorus came up with a theorem that still seems to hold true no matter what f'n continent ones ancestors came from, and I enrolled in this class to learn MATH. If I wanted lessons in Social Studies I'd be in one of those classes right now, so get to scribbling some figures on that chalk board"

Then again, I'm old and grumpy, and before I was young and grumpy and still had issues with BS.

Good luck to your nephew.

PS you're an insider I've heard..................is this part of the Joo plan to conquer the world? whistle

I support the right of every member of the woketard critical race hoax cohort t calculate their salary using their imaginary numbers math.
Then they can take their imaginary check to their imaginary bank.

However, I wonder how they will grow their purple haze when they can't add one gallon of water a day for every two plants equals half as many gallons as plants per week.
Posted By: BigPine Re: Drop outs - 08/29/21
Originally Posted by WMR
“Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life”, according to Dean Wormer. IMO, raise a kid raised with good values and good examples will usually end up doing ok. If parents walk the walk the kid will be pretty BS proof. Teach them to think for themselves and they’ll make you proud. Like the poster who’s kid wants to be a doc, sometimes you’ve got to navigate the minefield. One can disagree without being disagreeable. Lots of paths to a good life.


My oldest son got College degree in Forestry and lived the College life to the fullest ( animal house), worked in in his field in several Western states . Got married and just moved back home with his wife expecting our first grandchild ! Got a job as assistant property manager for Purdue’s Forestry and Natural Resource Properties. 2nd son never liked school and it never liked him. I had a friend as. BA local 150 Operators union who wanted him in the appretiship program , but I made him take one year in a community college first . He hated it as expected and went in the Union. He made $110k when he was 19. Our youngest is in her last year at Purdue and will get multiple job offers before she graduates.
I hated High School so college was out of the question. I worked on a farm starting at 14 until after high school then construction, then sales. I bought a small town Chevrolet store when I was 39 and managed to raise a family. By the skin of my teeth but it worked .
Giving kids a good solid foundation in life and it usually works out
Posted By: mathman Re: Drop outs - 08/29/21
Originally Posted by OldmanoftheSea

I support the right of every member of the woketard critical race hoax cohort t calculate their salary using their imaginary numbers math.
Then they can take their imaginary check to their imaginary bank.


Don't insult imaginary numbers. Despite their unfortunate name they are a real thing even if they aren't real numbers. grin
Posted By: mathman Re: Drop outs - 08/29/21
Originally Posted by EdM
Originally Posted by K1500
If a kid has a good head on their shoulders, they know how to sort the wheat from the chaff. Part of life is figuring out how to deal with jerks. Jerk clients, jerk acquaintances, jerk bosses, jerk teachers, etc. Sometimes you can’t run away from them. My guess is in his heart he knew that college and a college based career wasn’t really what he wanted to do with his life. Nothing wrong with that, and identifying his interests early will save time and money. In any event, good for him for making a decision to better himself and to follow his gut and heart.


Yep. And an engineering degree is usually not bad.


Especially if you can get that degree somewhere you aren't being bombarded with woke bullshit.
Posted By: George_De_Vries_3rd Re: Drop outs - 08/29/21

Me thinks a trade school student will be much less likely to vote for Biden’s Build Back Better agenda (green social engineering) than any college student majoring in the literature of Subsaharan Africa.

And to get a real job.

I Let my oldest daughter down by not paying enough attention when she was in college.
Posted By: George_De_Vries_3rd Re: Drop outs - 08/29/21
Originally Posted by Birdwatcher
Originally Posted by mathman
Notice the preponderance of professors of Education in the production of that bullshit..


Yep, first thing I noticed too. I can only assume that, in the age of Critical Race Theory, from here on in Education Professors are gonna be selected for being even dumber.

All this Critical Race folderol reminds me of of Academics in Hitler’s Germany and their “Aryan Science”.


Thanks to socialist John Dewey of the 1930’s, we spend more per capita on education for kids who graduate HS and can’t read or count out your change at the DQ. Or get your order right.
Posted By: kwg020 Re: Drop outs - 08/29/21
My son has a 2 year degree in computer aided design. He has been with the company for 15 years. He jumped on the company jet this morning to go to Canada for the next 2 to 4 days. What ever it takes to trouble shoot some problems on a build the company is doing. Next week he will be in Texas or South Carolina or only God knows where. His 2 year degree only got him in the door. He proved to be a valuable member of the team and now he is getting the recognition he deserves for working hard and getting the job done. He didn't have to get that 4 year degree to be successful. Just like the kids who want to be plumbers or electricians or truck drivers. It starts at home and not in a college class room.

kwg
Posted By: navlav8r Re: Drop outs - 08/29/21
Sounds like he’s already been taught how to think for himself so he doesn’t need any help from those fidiots.
Posted By: lvmiker Re: Drop outs - 08/30/21
My "least educated" son founded a successful software Co. He enjoys texting his dentist brother pics from his boat. A kid w/ a good work ethic and an inquisitive mind will find his way. A strong work ethic is becoming the new MBA.


mike r
Posted By: smarquez Re: Drop outs - 08/30/21
Originally Posted by Remsen
My nephew just made me very proud...he dropped out of college.

He enrolled at a local college in the SF Bay Area and got hit with the critical racist theory crap. In his first college math class the instructor told the students that everything they knew about math was a product of white supremacy and racism, and they would first have to unlearn things before they can be taught. Same thing happened in the English class.

My nephew thought I'd be angry when he told me that he was dropping out and was going to trade school (most likely to be an electrician), but I told him that I'm incredibly proud that he thinks for himself and saw what was going on. Plus, I told him that he'll be much happier as an electrician than if he had graduated with some liberal arts degree and had to work in an office.

I hope a lot more kids are taking the same route.

Edited to note: his father is Mexican, so he was getting a free ride from the state and could have gone to any university he wanted to in the state (maybe not Stanford, but every UC campus for sure). He knew what he was giving up but he wanted nothing to do with the social justice nonsense.

How does being a Mexican get him a free ride? I wish I had that offer when I was a kid.
Posted By: jdunham Re: Drop outs - 08/30/21
Originally Posted by lvmiker
A strong work ethic is becoming the new MBA.


I have always told both my kids, show up every day, on time, and just do your job and will be ahead of 90% of the population. They both have a solid work ethic and are excelling in their places of employment. They both can't believe how few people can do those three things.
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