This isn't Covid-19 related

but they sell Amoxicillin for fish, which similar to the horse paste Ivermectin is pretty much the same anti-biotic they give to humans.

Normally you can buy a bottle of 30 @ 500mg a pill for about $15, but word is out on it and people are taking it as opposed to getting a prescription from a doctor.

I was buying it for my dogs. We ran out earlier this week. Most places I went to didn't have it in stock and the places I did were asking as much as $47 for it. I finally found a place selling it for $27 plus $6 shipping - so I ended up paying more than a $1 a pill for it

which is still cheaper than a vet bill. They haven't start putting warnings up on the sites yet like they have for Ivermectin but you can find articles with the same kinds of warnings against taking fish medicine.

I live in Central Wisconsin and my dogs get Lyme's disease like little kids get colds... So I would buy fish Doxycycline on line for very cheap... and treat my dogs accordingly.

But now with the fake pandemic in full rage I can't find any fish Doxy anywhere. My normal supplier has his shop closed...

Can I ask ? Where are you finding your Amoxicillin ?

Preppers gonna prep.

I keep a selection of fish antibiotics on hand for my dogs. Can't imagine playing with them for human use outside of a true survival situation.

I bought it from Valley Vet Supply - just some random place I googled that had it in stock. But it was maybe the 30th place I found on the internet that was finally affordable and had it.

how much different can it be from feed grade vs food grade?
maybe they don't monitor ingredients quality quite as closely or have a higher allowance for how much other stuff is in it....
sort of like the allowable amount of rat chit in anything that is stored in a big pile on a warehouse floor,
like sugar.

The numbers are exactly the same as what you get from a pharmacy. Same schit. Same quality.

Fish Mox has been a thing among we preppers for decades now ... as has bovine penicillin. As has Ivermectin.

None of it is new to all of us who knew.

There is a complete chapter on it in When There Is No Doctor which I would think has been in print now for at least 15-20 years.

There likely isn't a dime's worth of difference between most oral or topical meds for fish, fowl or man. Check the ingredient list, know what's in it.

Injectables, on the other hand, would be a different story IMO.

Lots of folks here, Latino and white go to Tijuana Mexico to get it cheap.

Amoxicillin is an antibiotic.Antibiotics have no effect on viruses.

Ivermectin is an antiparasitic.

They are not the same class of drugs.

He already said this was not covid related.

He is talking about the availability being similar to ivermectin.

His subject line was a little confusing.

"Similar to Ivermectin, Word is out on Fish Mox"

Thanks for the clarification.

I need some coffee.lol

I always keep a stash of fish antibiotics on hand, just in case. Same chit you buy at the pharmacy without a script. Hint, they don't really expect you to use it on fish

Is Doxy similar?

I had Lyme's and I was prescribed human Doxy.... I can't remember the cost... but the scrip was well north of $80 Doctor visit and test ran over $380

I go to the vet... $120.00 to get thru the door... $160 for testing for the three differnt tic disease... $40 bucks for the Doxy

Fish Doxy.... $40

That is total bullScat !

azithromycin and Doxycycline both have antiviral properties in addition to being antibiotics

Don’t fall for discarding the off label use components of a medication!

too bad they dont make Fish Levaquin, Cipro

That’d be some really good SHTF antibiotics

And yes, doxycycline has unique antiviral properties along with it being a broad spectrum anti-biotic

I know they got cipro

Fish Flox and Fish Flox Forte

Well chit, party on then. Get a mix of all if possible.

I get a bunch about ever 16-18 months. I figure they lose strength after a bit.

My cipro is 5 years old

I need to fake another bout of peritonitis

Cipro and more

Erythromycin is an antibiotic used for the treatment of a number of bacterial infections. This includes respiratory tract infections, skin infections, chlamydia infections, pelvic inflammatory disease, and syphilis. It may also be used during pregnancy to prevent Group B streptococcal infection in the newborn, as well as to improve delayed stomach emptying. It can be given intravenously and by mouth. An eye ointment is routinely recommended after delivery to prevent eye infections in the newborn.

Common side effects include abdominal cramps, vomiting, and diarrhea. More serious side effects may include Clostridium difficile colitis, liver problems, prolonged QT, and allergic reactions.It is generally safe in those who are allergic to penicillin Erythromycin also appears to be safe to use during pregnancy. While generally regarded as safe during breastfeeding, its use by the mother during the first two weeks of life may increase the risk of pyloric stenosis in the baby.This risk also applies if taken directly by the baby during this age. It is in the macrolide family of antibiotics and works by decreasing bacterial protein production.

Erythromycin was first isolated in 1952 from the bacteria Saccharopolyspora erythraea. It is on the World Health Organization's List of Essential Medicines.

In 2017, it was the 215th most commonly prescribed medication in the United States, with more than two million prescriptions.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erythromycin


Doxycycline is a broad-spectrum tetracycline-class antibiotic used in the treatment of infections caused by bacteria and certain parasites. It is used to treat bacterial pneumonia, acne, chlamydia infections, Lyme disease, cholera, typhus, and syphilis. It is also used to prevent malaria in combination with quinine.Doxycycline may be taken by mouth or by injection into a vein.

Common side effects include diarrhea, nausea, vomiting, and an increased risk of sunburn. Use after the first trimester of pregnancy or in young children may result in permanent discoloration of the teeth. Its use during breastfeeding is probably safe. Doxycycline is a broad-spectrum antibiotic, of the tetracycline class.Like other agents of the tetracycline class, it either slows or kills bacteria by inhibiting protein production. It kills malaria by targeting a plastid organelle, the apicoplast.

Doxycycline was patented in 1957 and came into commercial use in 1967. It is on the World Health Organization's List of Essential Medicines.Doxycycline is available as a generic medicine. In 2018, it was the 80th most commonly prescribed medication in the United States, with more than 10 million prescriptions.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doxycycline


Antibiotics cannot kill viruses because viruses have different structures and replicate in a different way than bacteria.

Antibiotics work by targeting the growth machinery in bacteria (not viruses) to kill or inhibit those particular bacteria.

When you think about it structurally, it makes sense that an antibiotic could not work to kill a virus with a completely different set of replicating “machinery”.

https://www.drugs.com/article/antibiotics-and-viruses.html


Why antibiotics can't be used to treat your cold or flu

The hands of an elderly woman are shown, holding a generic packet of medicine pills.
Taking antibiotics when you don't need them can help antibiotic resistant bacteria to evolve.

It’s understandable that when you’re sick, or when someone you’re caring for is sick, all you want is a medicine that will make everything better.

Unfortunately when it comes to viruses like those that cause colds or influenza (flu), antibiotic medicines don’t work. In fact, taking antibiotics to try and treat viral illnesses might make us all sicker in the future.
How antibiotics work

Antibiotics were discovered by a scientist called Alexander Fleming in 1928, and are widely credited as one of the most important medical discoveries in human history.

Antibiotics are used to treat infections caused by bacteria. Bacteria are very small organisms, and billions of them live in and on your body. Most of the time these bacteria are harmless or even helpful for your body, like those that help you to digest food, but some bacteria can cause diseases.

There are two types of antibiotics that work to stop bacterial infections. Some slow down the growth of bacteria and damage their ability to reproduce and spread, while others kill the bacteria by destroying the bacteria cell walls. The choice of antibiotic depends on the type of bacteria.

Why don’t antibiotics work on viruses?
Viruses are different to bacteria; they have a different structure and a different way of surviving. Viruses don’t have cell walls that can be attacked by antibiotics; instead they are surrounded by a protective protein coat.

Unlike bacteria, which attack your body’s cells from the outside, viruses actually move into, live in and make copies of themselves in your body’s cells. Viruses can't reproduce on their own, like bacteria do, instead they attach themselves to healthy cells and reprogram those cells to make new viruses. It is because of all of these differences that antibiotics don’t work on viruses.

A young woman sits in bed, holding a warm drink, rugged up in blankets, with a red nose and a tissue.

https://www.health.qld.gov.au/news-events/news/antibiotics-viruses-cold-flu

Well, they both start with A.

Where.

Some antibiots do have some antiviral effect. Cant remember if because they stimulate immune activity.

Where is Doc Rocket?

Cipro?

Here?

After a few doses, my doctor advised me that I had likely been hooked.

I have cipro in blister packets that are 15 years old. I store them in a cool dark place. They are still just as effective now as they were then.

You are wrong sir, these two specific antibiotics do have an antiviral component to them. I suggest you stay up to date with the way things are going or opt out. And the greatest aspect is they are very good choices for sinus and respiratory bacteria infections so its a win-win. They primarily fight infection and secondary reduces viral load.

Where is the proof of your claims?

Christ Almighty, just don’t take the stuff.

I have a friend here that was poor when his kids were young. He was doing some dirt work for the vet and mentioned his 3 kids had a sore throat and fever. Vet sold him a quart bottle of penicillin for 10 bucks. He told him the dose per weight. Friend was a reloader and weighed the dosage on a powder scale. Vet told him to keep the bottle in the refrigerator and it would keep for years. He raised 3 kids on that 1 bottle.

"Ivermectin is an antiparasitic."

It's also an anti-viral.

My dog and I were both on prednisone at the same time. One day I got her script from the vet and mine from the pharmacy and the pills were exactly the same. Same size, color, lettering and same manufacturer listed on both bottles.

The only difference was that the law probably required more stringent QC on hers.

Bb

I go to church with a man that tells me he was assigned a very expensive drug for the aftermath of his colon cancer which is apparently now cured after being free of cancer for several years. He found out you could buy the same stuff for some disorder that sheep suffered from for $1.50 per dose. I can't tell you anything about the medicine because I never inquired what it was.

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