https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/california-family-hike-dead/2021/10/22/id/1041555/

Maybe?

No maybe, physically impossible and goes against human nature for survival, much less a dog

Thanks Scoop Jackson.

80 page thread on it already.

Did they not do autopsies? Wouldn't that determine the cause of death. I'm not buying the extreme heat story.

Musta been global warming.

Sounds a bit fishy to me too.

Yes fat city, I remember that one but don't remember an "official" cause of death, that's why I posted this.

Dang, this place is special. We have self-claimed economists, immunologists, climatologists, constitutionalists, and now forensic pathologists. There's no end to the lists of ists!

Just following a theme. 😜

Just re-read the article and I see the FBI is involved in the investigation so you know they'll come up with nothing but the truth. 🙄

Gotcha! 👍

Extreme heat from exposure to a UFO.

This seems unlikely , must be something they're missing .

I sort of disregarded everyone who said they'd come up with a horseshit answer to hide the truth

now?...I think that's a horseshit answer to hide the truth

Welcome Aboard

That IS a horseshit answer.
I don't think they have any idea.

What do y'all think happened to them?
There's no way every single person died of heart stroke, including the dog. Just no way.

Rocky: Do you think they died from the stated cause? Seems terribly unlikely.

I think that is right. They just cannot find a cause.

Bullschit!

LOL !

or hiding !

Damn good movie there.

They all died of Covid 19 of course. They were not vaccinated.

Nope, they all died of the “Delta Variant”, and they had all volunteered for both jabs; plus they willingly accepted the “booster” jab! Hell, who knows, they might have also volunteered for the “flu” jab (aka the Covid poison)! No doubt, all the stupid sheeple will offer themselves willingly for whatever future gene experiments may come…

Where was Alec Baldwin at that time?

“Make me a sergeant and charge the booze!”

One hour without water in those temperatures and it's usually all over. People die in Australia every year in similar circumstances - nothing unsual about that.

Really...when was the last time you heard of someone in Australia dying from dehydration after an hour without water at 43 degrees Celsius?


I am fifty-seven and I sure as heck don't remember any.


added, and don't run with that "but in Queensland..." shit, as I come from Longreach.

Besides the overabundance of Wilhelm screams, this is my favorite line from the movie!!!

I think that heat stroke is entirely plausible. Nothing says they all died at the same moment or in just an hour. It is entirely possible that the child became disabled first, then the adults (further burdened by carrying the child.) Now mentally and physically diminished, they collapsed together and all three eventually succumbed. The dog stayed loyally by their side until it also died.

Some of you seemingly have to make everything a complicated conspiracy when the simple answer to things stares you in the face.

So Rocky, your saying giant ant mutations are out?

Wrong answer, y’all are grossly underestimating the human will to survive.

107f? That's pretty darn hot.

I can see it.

Pretty cool huh

I can buy the heat related theory. Heat or cold can sneak up on you. They should have had more water. When I was young, I was often less than well prepared, figuring I could get out of any difficulty just by trying harder. I had some close calls. Now, at 72, I am always a little better prepared because I am aware I don't have the reserves I had fifty years ago (or even twenty years ago). I think the right move would have been for the father to make sure the rest were as comfortable and protected as they could be, then hurry to the car for more water or to get help. I say "the father" because that's his job. If he was less capable though, his wife might have been able to do it. All of this is easy to say from the comfort of my living room. Under pressure, I might make the wrong call as well.
I wonder if they had cell service? I suspect cell phones are counted on as a life line; much more than they should be. My uncle (the same age as I), an avid rock hound, had to call for help last summer when, on a desert excursion, he realized he wasn't going to be able to make it back to his Jeep. If he had not been able to call, he may have been screwed. GD

It doesn’t matter to me, all I said in the beginning was they wouldn’t find the cause and they hope the story goes away. This has been the standard position for well over a hundred years in many of the cases. For the other hundreds of years concerning native peoples, they just made legends from a few.

It is good that some of the mysterious incidents stay in the headlines while the rest are forgotten, like they are now.

Johnny, I think you might be grossly underestimating the debilitating effect of exertion at 109F and neither shade nor water.

It took 12 hours of work for me to get lightheaded in 107 temps years ago. I sat down and was fine in less than 5 minutes.

YMMV.

LHO did it.

Self Portrait???

Did you have adequate water?

I helped drag a guy up the final part of a steep slope and into the bed of a truck after a hike down to a lake in SoCal for a swim. We were HS age and in good shape. If we hadn't got him in the truck, got water into him and a wet blanket on him, he likely would have died. Couldn't have been more than a couple of hours in those conditions for him to get heat illness.

So yes, YMMV depending on conditions and "luck"???

Mehhhh...
Californians...
Probably Liberal Socialist Democrats anyways.
Probably death by Bunga- Bunga.
Sad for the kid and the dog.

Dunno where I heard it, they were only 1.5 miles from their vehicle but that last 1.5 miles involved a steep climb.

about 5 years ago I went hiking in a gorge which was roughly a 7 mile loop in May. The temperature was around 83 degrees and my wife and I knocked out the hike in about 2 hours. It wasn't all the challenging.

Then in July we decided to do it again with a group of people and the temp ended up being 97. I wasn't sure I was going to make it out. at one point I was laying down on a flat rock in the open sun just trying to get enough energy to finish the last 1/4 mile. We had water, probably not enough, but the heat just zapped me, and since then I just avoid being outside in that kind of heat doing any activity.

That said, that was just me, my wife was fine, all the people I was with went ahead, and certainly there weren't any dogs dying that day.

If the heat did kill these people, they had to make some collective decision that did them in which is hard to believe. at some point you want to seek help and protect that child at all costs.

If either man or woman went down for the count any normal parent would do their best to save the child. They would not just sit down and let the kid die. Edk

Nonsense.

Roofers work their asses off in similar conditions and don’t miss a beat. Somethings fishy

Odds might be that both parents were in heat stress and neither was thinking right. Similar to hypothermia, the brain becomes secondary to the body keeping the basic life systems running.

No thats funny as hell. NOBODY can tell me about heat or dehydration related things. I am an EXPERT on the subject.

I can do you one better than that. I had one troop that had terminal Leukemia, he tried to kill himself or the cancer by going into the gym sauna until he was damn near cooked. Twice they found him near death in the sauna and not only did he survive, it cured the Leukemia.

I’ll stick to my belief that just like many other cases over hundreds of years, they don’t know or don’t want to admit what happened and they want it to go away.

Roofers are acclimated to the work also.

I worked in a place where the average daily high is over 100F from June through Sept. If I'm not mistaken, an average day in July is 108F and we had periods of 5+ days in a row over 120F. One becomes more used to it as summer progresses.

I came home from work one day, stayed inside for a couple of hours, then went out and mowed the lawn. Looked at the thermometer and it was 104F and I hardly felt it and commented to myself that I was glad it was finally cool enough to do some yard work.

My understanding, both those adults came from IT or some sort of indoor profession and more than likely rarely saw 107F temperatures.

People from up north die every year in AZ because they feel that "dry heat" is pretty pleasant and they hardly seem to sweat. Next thing you know, they're down for the count.

I get acclimated to the cold too. Most folks don't shovel snow in shorts and a 20 year old threadbare hoodie.

Interesting how some of you are comparing seasoned construction workers who work in the heat for a living to a pair of soft ac loving city folks that just moved one of the hottest parts of California and decided to go for an extended exhaustive hike in heat index conditions that kill some of the very same seasoned construction/ labor workers every year.

Ha, Covid.

Yep. They have water.

Some people die easy too.

There's that.

Breaks my heart to think, the baby probably died first. What happened after that nobody knows.

I call B.S.
All four died at the same place, same time... of heat stroke?
C'mon man... this is baloney.

280, they weren't found for two days. Once again, nobody has claimed they died at the same time or that they died within an hour or so. These were not acclimated roofers or construction people. They were a man, a woman, and an infant hiking in rough terrain when the temp shot up over 60 degrees.

I don't disparage posters who have heat experience. But it wasn't you out there. As a rough analogy, there have been people who survived chest shots with a .357 Magnum and others who have keeled over dead with one hit from a .25 ACP. You cannot make any assumptions about how susceptible other people are to something based on your own or somebody else's hardiness.

To those claiming BS, kindly show us actual evidence that they died of something other than hyperthermia. Not guesses, not theories. Evidence.

Have you been shown “actual evidence” that they all died from hyperthermia...?

TRUMP did it!

Ass hole

Let's go Brandon!

Yup, they can get off the roof for a drink break.
I've done a little roofing, a little hiking and biking.
Exertion in heat is one thing. With dehydration quite another.
Mountain biking I was assured by someone else to follow on a new route when I needed a refill....led me on a goose chase for a couple hours after being dehydrated and no water in sight.
Ended up just about passed out in a stinging nettle patch getting runoff water from a little spring of dirty water.
I have no idea how that family died, but strange as it is, even fit young adults can get dehydrated, exhausted, and take a nap in a bad place.

It's a miracle that you survived

I could almost buy this dehydration/heat stroke hypothesis but for the dog dying there as well. Makes no sense.

I see what you did there.

Heh heh heh. Where's NVHunter when you need him?

Probably got away from here to get ready for some shuteye.

Which is what I'm doing now. Enjoy your day there in Aussieland.

Most likely the dog was on a leash, prob'ly with a harness.

Hardly anyone lets their "furbaby" off the leash anymore, unless its in a fenced-in dog park.

Who hikes without water ? and a cellphone these days ? So funny.