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Posted By: slugflinger Cure cancer? - 12/06/21
One of many doctors who are saying the same (or very similar) things. The fact that many are silenced or die mysteriously is interesting.

Posted By: Houston_2 Re: Cure cancer? - 12/06/21
Israel has supposedly come up with a cure even for Stage 4 patients.
Posted By: ipopum Re: Cure cancer? - 12/06/21


Depends on the cancer. The DR just cuts my skin cancer off. Cured
Posted By: ipopum Re: Cure cancer? - 12/06/21


Depends on the cancer. The DR just cuts my skin cancer off. Cured
Posted By: CashisKing Re: Cure cancer? - 12/06/21
Originally Posted by slugflinger
One of many doctors who are saying the same (or very similar) things. The fact that many are silenced or die mysteriously is interesting.



No money in saving lives...

ALWAYS FOLLOW THE MONEY...
Posted By: sportingspecialist Re: Cure cancer? - 12/06/21
Royal Raymond Rife,Stanislaw Buryzynski and Max Gerson are names that come to mind whenever this type of conversation comes up.
Posted By: Happy_Camper Re: Cure cancer? - 12/06/21
If it we're me, I would try this BEFORE ever considering chemical or radiation treatments and get off sugar, simple carbs, processed foods, etc.

I have friends who's oncologists had candy dishes in the IV room. Sugar feeds cancer and acidifies the body.
Posted By: urbaneruralite Re: Cure cancer? - 12/06/21
Originally Posted by CashisKing
Originally Posted by slugflinger
One of many doctors who are saying the same (or very similar) things. The fact that many are silenced or die mysteriously is interesting.



No money in saving lives...

ALWAYS FOLLOW THE MONEY...


Fact. The common cold is a coronavirus.
Posted By: ShaunRyan Re: Cure cancer? - 12/06/21
Originally Posted by Happy_Camper
If it we're me, I would try this BEFORE ever considering chemical or radiation treatments and get off sugar, simple carbs, processed foods, etc.

I have friends who's oncologists had candy dishes in the IV room. Sugar feeds cancer and acidifies the body.


My wife was Stage IV. Had surgery, did four rounds of chemo and quit. Did the no sugar thing and lots of turmeric and black pepper, along with 1 year of 2 grams of Rick Simpson oil per week, taken orally. She still does a vial every 6 months.

The surgery was in March of 2015.

Her oncologist also had candy in his office and IV room.
Posted By: ShaunRyan Re: Cure cancer? - 12/06/21
Originally Posted by slugflinger
. . . The fact that many are silenced or die mysteriously is interesting.


But not surprising. The cancer industry is big money.
Posted By: Happy_Camper Re: Cure cancer? - 12/06/21
Originally Posted by ShaunRyan
Originally Posted by Happy_Camper
If it we're me, I would try this BEFORE ever considering chemical or radiation treatments and get off sugar, simple carbs, processed foods, etc.

I have friends who's oncologists had candy dishes in the IV room. Sugar feeds cancer and acidifies the body.


My wife was Stage IV. Had surgery, did four rounds of chemo and quit. Did the no sugar thing and lots of turmeric and black pepper, along with 1 year of 2 grams of Rick Simpson oil per week, taken orally. She still does a vial every 6 months.

The surgery was in March of 2015.

Her oncologist also had candy in his office and IV room.


It's good to hear she is past that death sentence that too many doctors stamp their patients with as if they are doomed.
My heart goes out to you both as it's hard to think of anything more stressful than that diagnosis.
I don't have an argument with those who choose to do the chemo route. That's their choices. My problem is with Drs offices who offer cancer food in the last place you'd expect it. Then they don't even give basic nutrition recommendations to patients. It hurts to see the bald little girls who are given coupons for McDonald's after their treatments. They suffer more than they should IMHO.

She must be benefitting from the oil since she still uses it.
Do you mind sharing the benefits of what and how the chemo, diet, oil, etc worked or didn't sometime? I am constantly trying to learn from other's success stories.
Posted By: Clarkm Re: Cure cancer? - 12/06/21
Some cancers feed on sugar and some do not.
Posted By: ShaunRyan Re: Cure cancer? - 12/06/21
Originally Posted by Happy_Camper
Originally Posted by ShaunRyan
Originally Posted by Happy_Camper
If it we're me, I would try this BEFORE ever considering chemical or radiation treatments and get off sugar, simple carbs, processed foods, etc.

I have friends who's oncologists had candy dishes in the IV room. Sugar feeds cancer and acidifies the body.


My wife was Stage IV. Had surgery, did four rounds of chemo and quit. Did the no sugar thing and lots of turmeric and black pepper, along with 1 year of 2 grams of Rick Simpson oil per week, taken orally. She still does a vial every 6 months.

The surgery was in March of 2015.

Her oncologist also had candy in his office and IV room.


It's good to hear she is past that death sentence that too many doctors stamp their patients with as if they are doomed.
My heart goes out to you both as it's hard to think of anything more stressful than that diagnosis.
I don't have an argument with those who choose to do the chemo route. That's their choices. My problem is with Drs offices who offer cancer food in the last place you'd expect it. Then they don't even give basic nutrition recommendations to patients. It hurts to see the bald little girls who are given coupons for McDonald's after their treatments. They suffer more than they should IMHO.

She must be benefitting from the oil since she still uses it.
Do you mind sharing the benefits of what and how the chemo, diet, oil, etc worked or didn't sometime? I am constantly trying to learn from other's success stories.


The chemo made her sicker than the cancer did. Both of us regret her submitting to it, but the docs are real good at scaring the crap out of people and then pimping their "treatment." In my opinion--and hers as well--chemo didn't help at all, quite the opposite. Turmeric with black pepper (cooked) is a known cancer killer, as is alkalinity in the body, as Dr. Coldwell explained in the OP's video. Vitamins C and D in the most natural form you can get them. Just eating good food and not processed garbage is/was huge, and I believe that applies to good health in general and not just cancer. The video below details how one can eat to "starve" cancer. Green tea is also said to be beneficial and my wife drank a lot of it for the first few years and still drinks a pitcher or two a week, blended with black tea, lemon juice, and raw honey. She would also weaponize sugar occasionally, eating or drinking a small amount of something sweet in conjunction with vitamin C or a large amount of turmeric and black pepper. Don't know how effective that was but she's still kicking and did more research than me.

The Rick Simpson oil is full-strength cannabis oil, not CBD. It has THC in it. There are lots of studies and testimonials out there but the gist is that THC kills cancer. We know a guy in Michigan who makes it, and that's why we moved there after her having surgery and quitting chemo. She'd take a vial and go to bed for 24 hours, way beyond stoned. It would just put her to sleep. The guy that we got it from successfully treated his own cancer with it (prostate), and had many other clients who also found it beneficial. Taking the concentrated oil is not the same as smoking weed recreationally.

Rick Simpson Oil

Cancer is a multi-billion dollar industry. I don't believe our health care system has any interest in curing it, only profiting from treating it, along with every other disease, most of which are caused by the crappy processed foods people eat, the gallons of various types of flavored sugar water they drink, and the toxic chemicals they not only ingest on a regular basis but also put onto their skin and surround themselves with in their homes, vehicles, and workplaces, none of which, while perhaps studied for adverse effects individually, has been studied to find out how it interacts or combines with others in the human body. There are endless combinations; everyone uses a different combination of products. No realistic way to study that.

I've said before that in my opinion the best diet for good health is the 19th century farm diet. If great-great grandma couldn't process it on her farm, don't eat it. Combine it with the drop-and-give-me 20 diet. A life of sedentary ease and convenience sounds great in the marketing copy, but look at the results. The system that produces those results at great profit then makes bank "treating" the maladies they caused. The FDA? Feral Diabolical Fiends, to put it politely.

It ain't natural.


Posted By: abbydog Re: Cure cancer? - 12/06/21
I went to a nutritionist several years ago and first thing was no alcohol, sweets or refined.food products. Went back to my old routine. We eat pretty fresh however chocolate, wine, martini’s were a staple. I cut all of that out of my diet 3 months ago after a less than stellar stress test with bad triglicerides higher than normal. ProcessedSugar in any form has a lot to do with it. I do eat fruit, occasional honey on toast in the morning.
The old saying we are what we eat has a lot to do with it as mentioned by several of you guys.
Loosing weight gradually but it is a tough go.
Posted By: Houston_2 Re: Cure cancer? - 12/06/21
Shaun those are some very interesting posts you’ve made.
Thank you.
Posted By: Triggernosis Re: Cure cancer? - 12/06/21
Originally Posted by urbaneruralite


Fact. The common cold is a coronavirus.

Fact. It could also be a rhinovirus.
Posted By: The_Real_Hawkeye Re: Cure cancer? - 12/06/21
Originally Posted by slugflinger
One of many doctors who are saying the same (or very similar) things. The fact that many are silenced or die mysteriously is interesting.


Okay, I got up to his claim that table salt is one-third glass, then had to stop. Try dissolving glass into a glass of hot water. Doesn't matter how fine you crush it, how hot the water is, or how much you stir, that glass won't dissolve. Table salt dissolves in hot water completely. In fact, the only exception is sea salt, which often does have tiny pebbles in it that will never dissolve in water, which are essentially grains of sand.
Posted By: jorgeI Re: Cure cancer? - 12/06/21
Nonsense. Read the bokk, The Emperor of All Maladies. There might be some cures (remissions) for some cancers, but it will always be with us.
Posted By: rainshot Re: Cure cancer? - 12/06/21
There was a fellow that owned land behind and beside us where we used to live. He was diagnosed with lung cancer. He went through the chemo and radiation which he said essentially burned his body up. He did some research and ended up eating a diet of non processed food. He bought his food fresh from the farmers market in Dallas and cut out all processed food. Whether the diet helped him or not I cannot say but he was cancer free for years and was still kicking when we moved. Doctor Judy Mikovits claims Ivermectin has good properties for curing immune system problems which cancer is.
I just don't know but I will say that the medical community have been knuckle dragging neanderthals concerning the most horrific illnesses we face. Just about everything we eat or drink is treated including the water we drink with something. I do know they had cancer long ago. My mother in law who died years ago at 90 told me they didn't know what to call it so they called it "consumption".
There ain't no easy answers but I am pretty sure Rush Limbaugh explored a lot of things before the end. Cancer is a terrible thing and it touches all too many of our lives.
Posted By: Mannlicher Re: Cure cancer? - 12/06/21
the body, just like your car, breaks down. Cancer is a thing that happens, not a specific malady that can be cured or prevented with any guarantee of success.
Posted By: Houston_2 Re: Cure cancer? - 12/06/21
Originally Posted by Mannlicher
the body, just like your car, breaks down. Cancer is a thing that happens, not a specific malady that can be cured or prevented with any guarantee of success.


I would challenge what you’ve said as being far too simplistic.

eg:
Some cancers have hereditary links associated with them.
Some are directly linked to smoking.
Etc.
Posted By: The_Real_Hawkeye Re: Cure cancer? - 12/06/21
Originally Posted by Mannlicher
the body, just like your car, breaks down. Cancer is a thing that happens, not a specific malady that can be cured or prevented with any guarantee of success.

As I understand it, cancer cells come into existence in our bodies periodically throughout everyone's lives. They are identified and destroyed by the immune system. What we call "cancer" is when the body has failed to identify a particular type of cancer cell, and it runs wild. Typically, this is due to a defect in the immune system, which can be caused by multiple factors, one of which is poor diet over a long period of time.
Posted By: Rock Chuck Re: Cure cancer? - 12/06/21
My 1st wife ate very healthy. It didn't help her a bit.
Posted By: smokepole Re: Cure cancer? - 12/06/21
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye

Okay, I got up to his claim that table salt is one-third glass, then had to stop. Try dissolving glass into a glass of hot water. Doesn't matter how fine you crush it, how hot the water is, or how much you stir, that glass won't dissolve. Table salt dissolves in hot water completely. In fact, the only exception is sea salt, which often does have tiny pebbles in it that will never dissolve in water, which are essentially grains of sand.


Anyone know where he got his medical training?

On the RSO, cannabinoids have been shown to "kill" prostate cancer cells in the lab. Apparently some cancers have cannabinoid receptors similar to the receptors in the brain where THC molecules attach and cause the high. Apparently the cannabinoids attach to the cancer cells and choke off the blood supply, at least prostate cancer cells.


Posted By: ConradCA Re: Cure cancer? - 12/06/21
You are an idiot. They are much better at cancer now, but there isn’t a cure..
Posted By: Idaho_Shooter Re: Cure cancer? - 12/06/21
Originally Posted by urbaneruralite
Originally Posted by CashisKing
Originally Posted by slugflinger
One of many doctors who are saying the same (or very similar) things. The fact that many are silenced or die mysteriously is interesting.



No money in saving lives...

ALWAYS FOLLOW THE MONEY...


Fact. The common cold is a coronavirus.

Fact, the common cold is most often a Rhinoviruz. But don't let that rain on the parade of bullschitt.

Most of this thread an be filed along with those 100 mile per gallon carburetors and car engines which ran on water developed by private parties in the 70s and 80s.

You know the ones. They were all bought up by big oil or Detroit to stifle the competition.
Posted By: The_Real_Hawkeye Re: Cure cancer? - 12/06/21
Originally Posted by smokepole
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye

Okay, I got up to his claim that table salt is one-third glass, then had to stop. Try dissolving glass into a glass of hot water. Doesn't matter how fine you crush it, how hot the water is, or how much you stir, that glass won't dissolve. Table salt dissolves in hot water completely. In fact, the only exception is sea salt, which often does have tiny pebbles in it that will never dissolve in water, which are essentially grains of sand.


Anyone know where he got his medical training?

On the RSO, cannabinoids have been shown to "kill" prostate cancer cells in the lab. Apparently some cancers have cannabinoid receptors similar to the receptors in the brain where THC molecules attach and cause the high. Apparently the cannabinoids attach to the cancer cells and choke off the blood supply, at least prostate cancer cells.



Have you ever seen a Grateful Dead fan with cancer? Me neither. There has to be a connection.
Posted By: WTM45 Re: Cure cancer? - 12/06/21
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Have you ever seen a Grateful Dead fan with cancer?

Yep. Bilateral lung.
Now gone.

Posted By: Houston_2 Re: Cure cancer? - 12/06/21
Originally Posted by WTM45
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Have you ever seen a Grateful Dead fan with cancer?

Yep. Bilateral lung.
Now gone.




Keith Richards?

Willie Nelson?
Posted By: Houston_2 Re: Cure cancer? - 12/06/21
Originally Posted by smokepole
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye

Okay, I got up to his claim that table salt is one-third glass, then had to stop. Try dissolving glass into a glass of hot water. Doesn't matter how fine you crush it, how hot the water is, or how much you stir, that glass won't dissolve. Table salt dissolves in hot water completely. In fact, the only exception is sea salt, which often does have tiny pebbles in it that will never dissolve in water, which are essentially grains of sand.


Anyone know where he got his medical training?

On the RSO, cannabinoids have been shown to "kill" prostate cancer cells in the lab. Apparently some cancers have cannabinoid receptors similar to the receptors in the brain where THC molecules attach and cause the high. Apparently the cannabinoids attach to the cancer cells and choke off the blood supply, at least prostate cancer cells.





Apparently?

Where did your medical training come from?
Honest question and not looking for a fight here.
Posted By: smokepole Re: Cure cancer? - 12/06/21
Originally Posted by Houston_2
Originally Posted by smokepole
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye

Okay, I got up to his claim that table salt is one-third glass, then had to stop. Try dissolving glass into a glass of hot water. Doesn't matter how fine you crush it, how hot the water is, or how much you stir, that glass won't dissolve. Table salt dissolves in hot water completely. In fact, the only exception is sea salt, which often does have tiny pebbles in it that will never dissolve in water, which are essentially grains of sand.


Anyone know where he got his medical training?

On the RSO, cannabinoids have been shown to "kill" prostate cancer cells in the lab. Apparently some cancers have cannabinoid receptors similar to the receptors in the brain where THC molecules attach and cause the high. Apparently the cannabinoids attach to the cancer cells and choke off the blood supply, at least prostate cancer cells.





Apparently?

Where did your medical training come from?
Honest question and not looking for a fight here.


I don't have medical training, neve said I did. But then again, I don't call myself "Doctor" and I'm not promoting my books wherein I say I have the secret to curing all cancers.

And yes, I used the word "apparently." The technical term for cannabinoid effects on prostate cancer cells is apoptosis:


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3339795/


So what's your question.
Posted By: Houston_2 Re: Cure cancer? - 12/06/21
Originally Posted by smokepole
Originally Posted by Houston_2
Originally Posted by smokepole
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye

Okay, I got up to his claim that table salt is one-third glass, then had to stop. Try dissolving glass into a glass of hot water. Doesn't matter how fine you crush it, how hot the water is, or how much you stir, that glass won't dissolve. Table salt dissolves in hot water completely. In fact, the only exception is sea salt, which often does have tiny pebbles in it that will never dissolve in water, which are essentially grains of sand.


Anyone know where he got his medical training?

On the RSO, cannabinoids have been shown to "kill" prostate cancer cells in the lab. Apparently some cancers have cannabinoid receptors similar to the receptors in the brain where THC molecules attach and cause the high. Apparently the cannabinoids attach to the cancer cells and choke off the blood supply, at least prostate cancer cells.





Apparently?

Where did your medical training come from?
Honest question and not looking for a fight here.


I must've missed the part where I said I had medical training. But then again, I don't call myself "Doctor" and I'm not promoting my books wherein I say I have the secret to curing all cancers.

And yes, I used the word "apparently." The technical term for cannabinoid effects on prostate cancer cells is apoptosis:


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3339795/


So what's your question.



“Apparently “, you have no medical training or medical background.
You could have simply said, “I have none “ or “from the university of Facebook “.

Correct me if I’m wrong.
Posted By: smokepole Re: Cure cancer? - 12/06/21
Originally Posted by Houston_2
Israel has supposedly come up with a cure even for Stage 4 patients.



Supposedly???


Where'd you get your medical training?
Posted By: Happy_Camper Re: Cure cancer? - 12/06/21
Originally Posted by ShaunRyan
Originally Posted by Happy_Camper
Originally Posted by ShaunRyan
Originally Posted by Happy_Camper
If it we're me, I would try this BEFORE ever considering chemical or radiation treatments and get off sugar, simple carbs, processed foods, etc.

I have friends who's oncologists had candy dishes in the IV room. Sugar feeds cancer and acidifies the body.


My wife was Stage IV. Had surgery, did four rounds of chemo and quit. Did the no sugar thing and lots of turmeric and black pepper, along with 1 year of 2 grams of Rick Simpson oil per week, taken orally. She still does a vial every 6 months.

The surgery was in March of 2015.

Her oncologist also had candy in his office and IV room.


It's good to hear she is past that death sentence that too many doctors stamp their patients with as if they are doomed.
My heart goes out to you both as it's hard to think of anything more stressful than that diagnosis.
I don't have an argument with those who choose to do the chemo route. That's their choices. My problem is with Drs offices who offer cancer food in the last place you'd expect it. Then they don't even give basic nutrition recommendations to patients. It hurts to see the bald little girls who are given coupons for McDonald's after their treatments. They suffer more than they should IMHO.

She must be benefitting from the oil since she still uses it.
Do you mind sharing the benefits of what and how the chemo, diet, oil, etc worked or didn't sometime? I am constantly trying to learn from other's success stories.


The chemo made her sicker than the cancer did. Both of us regret her submitting to it, but the docs are real good at scaring the crap out of people and then pimping their "treatment." In my opinion--and hers as well--chemo didn't help at all, quite the opposite. Turmeric with black pepper (cooked) is a known cancer killer, as is alkalinity in the body, as Dr. Coldwell explained in the OP's video. Vitamins C and D in the most natural form you can get them. Just eating good food and not processed garbage is/was huge, and I believe that applies to good health in general and not just cancer. The video below details how one can eat to "starve" cancer. Green tea is also said to be beneficial and my wife drank a lot of it for the first few years and still drinks a pitcher or two a week, blended with black tea, lemon juice, and raw honey. She would also weaponize sugar occasionally, eating or drinking a small amount of something sweet in conjunction with vitamin C or a large amount of turmeric and black pepper. Don't know how effective that was but she's still kicking and did more research than me.

The Rick Simpson oil is full-strength cannabis oil, not CBD. It has THC in it. There are lots of studies and testimonials out there but the gist is that THC kills cancer. We know a guy in Michigan who makes it, and that's why we moved there after her having surgery and quitting chemo. She'd take a vial and go to bed for 24 hours, way beyond stoned. It would just put her to sleep. The guy that we got it from successfully treated his own cancer with it (prostate), and had many other clients who also found it beneficial. Taking the concentrated oil is not the same as smoking weed recreationally.

Rick Simpson Oil

Cancer is a multi-billion dollar industry. I don't believe our health care system has any interest in curing it, only profiting from treating it, along with every other disease, most of which are caused by the crappy processed foods people eat, the gallons of various types of flavored sugar water they drink, and the toxic chemicals they not only ingest on a regular basis but also put onto their skin and surround themselves with in their homes, vehicles, and workplaces, none of which, while perhaps studied for adverse effects individually, has been studied to find out how it interacts or combines with others in the human body. There are endless combinations; everyone uses a different combination of products. No realistic way to study that.

I've said before that in my opinion the best diet for good health is the 19th century farm diet. If great-great grandma couldn't process it on her farm, don't eat it. Combine it with the drop-and-give-me 20 diet. A life of sedentary ease and convenience sounds great in the marketing copy, but look at the results. The system that produces those results at great profit then makes bank "treating" the maladies they caused. The FDA? Feral Diabolical Fiends, to put it politely.

It ain't natural.




Thanks Shaun,

There's much wisdom in your post. I can tell from your description that you and your wife did lots of study and followed positive lifestyle changes to have her with you today.

It was encouraging to read. I think that there are others who are on the fence that can benefit from this testimony and from what you learned.

Have a great day!

HC
Posted By: Houston_2 Re: Cure cancer? - 12/06/21
Originally Posted by smokepole
Originally Posted by Houston_2
Israel has supposedly come up with a cure even for Stage 4 patients.



Supposedly???


Where'd you get your medical training?


I have minimal, basic medical training.

Google up Israeli cancer cure and see what they have supposedly done there . Apparently, you know how to use Google?
Posted By: STRSWilson Re: Cure cancer? - 12/06/21
An alkaline body isn't exactly a cure for cancer but it certainly is the path toward combating it. The Koreans and Japanese have been doing this for centuries. Alkaline and high Oxidation Reduction Potential water is used for almost any ailment in their culture. In addition, the Okinawans are famous for eating coral calcium to help raise body pH.

But homeostasis forces your body back into a normal pH range regardless how much alkaline water you drink or supplements you take. Your average blood pH is in the 7.35 to 7.45 pH range. One has to work pretty hard to force blood much higher and if you do, alkalosis can trigger a whole host of other life threatening problems for you. They call it homeostasis for a reason.

If you want a healthy immune system, cut out all sugar and carbs and consume more saturated fats - nut and avocado oils are best. Your PSA for the day.
Posted By: smokepole Re: Cure cancer? - 12/06/21
Originally Posted by Houston_2
Originally Posted by smokepole
Originally Posted by Houston_2
Israel has supposedly come up with a cure even for Stage 4 patients.



Supposedly???


Where'd you get your medical training?


I have minimal, basic medical training.

Google up Israeli cancer cure and see what they have supposedly done there . Apparently, you know how to use Google?


LOL. So my medical knowledge comes from the "university of facebook" but yours is from Google.

Congratulations!!
Posted By: rte Re: Cure cancer? - 12/06/21
The AMA has a long history of harassing,threatening,removing licenses to practice and even murdering doctors and researchers who have discovered or developed cures for specific cancers.

The AMA,big pharma and their henchmen have stifled research that's not within their direct control.They also research just to the point where they can patent a drug and profit from that drug.



Posted By: Houston_2 Re: Cure cancer? - 12/06/21
Originally Posted by smokepole
Originally Posted by Houston_2
Originally Posted by smokepole
Originally Posted by Houston_2
Israel has supposedly come up with a cure even for Stage 4 patients.



Supposedly???


Where'd you get your medical training?


I have minimal, basic medical training.

Google up Israeli cancer cure and see what they have supposedly done there . Apparently, you know how to use Google?


LOL. So my medical knowledge comes from the "university of facebook" but yours is from Google.

Congratulations!!


My information on the Israeli cancer cure came directly from an Oncologist.

I offered it to you via google for your knowledge of it of which you ‘apparently’ lack

Much appreciate the congratulations.
Posted By: smokepole Re: Cure cancer? - 12/06/21
I did Google it. Sheba Clinic?
Posted By: Houston_2 Re: Cure cancer? - 12/06/21
Originally Posted by smokepole
I did Google it. Sheba Clinic?


Presently the leading company is AEBI, Accelerated Evolution Biotechnologies. I believe it’s managed by a gentleman named Aridor.

The process uses Peptides and toxins that disallow cancer to supress the immune system from recognizing it as being alien as it typically does further down the line.

Very interesting and “supposedly “ will be on the market and available within a year.
Posted By: smokepole Re: Cure cancer? - 12/06/21
Thanks for the info Houston.
Posted By: ShaunRyan Re: Cure cancer? - 12/06/21
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by Mannlicher
the body, just like your car, breaks down. Cancer is a thing that happens, not a specific malady that can be cured or prevented with any guarantee of success.

As I understand it, cancer cells come into existence in our bodies periodically throughout everyone's lives. They are identified and destroyed by the immune system. What we call "cancer" is when the body has failed to identify a particular type of cancer cell, and it runs wild. Typically, this is due to a defect in the immune system, which can be caused by multiple factors, one of which is poor diet over a long period of time.


That is my understanding as well. Cancers themselves aren't necessarily hereditary or caused by external factors; the tendency for the immune system to be compromised in a way that allows various cancer cells to propagate and not be destroyed is. Poor diet, especially over a long period of time, is not just a major contributor to cancer but most other chronic diseases as well.


Originally Posted by STRSWilson
An alkaline body isn't exactly a cure for cancer but it certainly is the path toward combating it. The Koreans and Japanese have been doing this for centuries. Alkaline and high Oxidation Reduction Potential water is used for almost any ailment in their culture. In addition, the Okinawans are famous for eating coral calcium to help raise body pH.

But homeostasis forces your body back into a normal pH range regardless how much alkaline water you drink or supplements you take. Your average blood pH is in the 7.35 to 7.45 pH range. One has to work pretty hard to force blood much higher and if you do, alkalosis can trigger a whole host of other life threatening problems for you. They call it homeostasis for a reason.

If you want a healthy immune system, cut out all sugar and carbs and consume more saturated fats - nut and avocado oils are best. Your PSA for the day.


I think the issue isn't so much trying to force your body to a higher pH than normal, although this is a method used to target disease once it occurs. The issue is that among other things the modern diet, including many brands of bottled water, acidifies the body, lowering the normal pH range to unhealthy levels.

Let food be thy medicine and medicine be thy food ― Hippocrates

Among the industrial food and industrial health care crowd the resistance to these ideas has obvious origins. Among the public it's more subtle; a combination of conditioning to believe in government agencies and marketing copy, and an addiction to convenience. As Reagan pointed out concerning freedom and liberty, they must be maintained and defended by each generation for it's own sake; it's not a given. The same applies to health and fitness; you have to take responsibility, both mentally and physically, for your own. Bureaucratic agencies, corporations, and even most doctors aren't going to promote what's in your best interest. They're going to promote what's in their own.
Posted By: The_Real_Hawkeye Re: Cure cancer? - 12/07/21
Originally Posted by Houston_2
Originally Posted by WTM45
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Have you ever seen a Grateful Dead fan with cancer?

Yep. Bilateral lung.
Now gone.




Keith Richards?

Willie Nelson?

But have you ever seen a sick Indian? It's the snake oil they consume.
Posted By: Houston_2 Re: Cure cancer? - 12/07/21
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by Houston_2
Originally Posted by WTM45
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Have you ever seen a Grateful Dead fan with cancer?

Yep. Bilateral lung.
Now gone.




Keith Richards?

Willie Nelson?

But have you ever seen a sick Indian? It's the snake oil they consume.



Gotta be.

Laughing!
Posted By: Houston_2 Re: Cure cancer? - 12/07/21
Originally Posted by smokepole
Thanks for the info Houston.


We’re good.
Posted By: JohnnyLoco Re: Cure cancer? - 12/07/21
Originally Posted by ipopum


Depends on the cancer. The DR just cuts my skin cancer off. Cured


Thats a crock of crap. You get one cut off and you’ll be a patient for life.
Posted By: renegade50 Re: Cure cancer? - 12/07/21
No long term money in a cure.
Posted By: STRSWilson Re: Cure cancer? - 12/07/21
Originally Posted by ShaunRyan
Originally Posted by STRSWilson
An alkaline body isn't exactly a cure for cancer but it certainly is the path toward combating it. The Koreans and Japanese have been doing this for centuries. Alkaline and high Oxidation Reduction Potential water is used for almost any ailment in their culture. In addition, the Okinawans are famous for eating coral calcium to help raise body pH.

But homeostasis forces your body back into a normal pH range regardless how much alkaline water you drink or supplements you take. Your average blood pH is in the 7.35 to 7.45 pH range. One has to work pretty hard to force blood much higher and if you do, alkalosis can trigger a whole host of other life threatening problems for you. They call it homeostasis for a reason.

If you want a healthy immune system, cut out all sugar and carbs and consume more saturated fats - nut and avocado oils are best. Your PSA for the day.


I think the issue isn't so much trying to force your body to a higher pH than normal, although this is a method used to target disease once it occurs. The issue is that among other things the modern diet, including many brands of bottled water, acidifies the body, lowering the normal pH range to unhealthy levels.

Let food be thy medicine and medicine be thy food ― Hippocrates

Among the industrial food and industrial health care crowd the resistance to these ideas has obvious origins. Among the public it's more subtle; a combination of conditioning to believe in government agencies and marketing copy, and an addiction to convenience. As Reagan pointed out concerning freedom and liberty, they must be maintained and defended by each generation for it's own sake; it's not a given. The same applies to health and fitness; you have to take responsibility, both mentally and physically, for your own. Bureaucratic agencies, corporations, and even most doctors aren't going to promote what's in your best interest. They're going to promote what's in their own.



It comes down to gene suppression and activation. Poor health from genetic tendencies, diet, environment, stress, etc can suppress genes that are directly associated with cancer suppression. Suppress them long enough and the immune system stops hunting for cancers and tumors. But, if you can reactivate suppressor genes through diet and environment, your body stands a better chance of targeting cancer cells. This is the whole concept behind targeted gene therapies for cancer patients.

https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/researchers-find-small-molecule-can-activate-important-cancer-suppressor-gene#:~:text=Researchers%20Find%20that%20a%20Small%20Molecule%20Can%20Activate,suicide%20through%20a%20complex%20signaling%20pathway%20called%20apoptosis.

Stay healthy my friends!
Posted By: Houston_2 Re: Cure cancer? - 12/07/21
Originally Posted by STRSWilson
Originally Posted by ShaunRyan
Originally Posted by STRSWilson
An alkaline body isn't exactly a cure for cancer but it certainly is the path toward combating it. The Koreans and Japanese have been doing this for centuries. Alkaline and high Oxidation Reduction Potential water is used for almost any ailment in their culture. In addition, the Okinawans are famous for eating coral calcium to help raise body pH.

But homeostasis forces your body back into a normal pH range regardless how much alkaline water you drink or supplements you take. Your average blood pH is in the 7.35 to 7.45 pH range. One has to work pretty hard to force blood much higher and if you do, alkalosis can trigger a whole host of other life threatening problems for you. They call it homeostasis for a reason.

If you want a healthy immune system, cut out all sugar and carbs and consume more saturated fats - nut and avocado oils are best. Your PSA for the day.


I think the issue isn't so much trying to force your body to a higher pH than normal, although this is a method used to target disease once it occurs. The issue is that among other things the modern diet, including many brands of bottled water, acidifies the body, lowering the normal pH range to unhealthy levels.

Let food be thy medicine and medicine be thy food ― Hippocrates

Among the industrial food and industrial health care crowd the resistance to these ideas has obvious origins. Among the public it's more subtle; a combination of conditioning to believe in government agencies and marketing copy, and an addiction to convenience. As Reagan pointed out concerning freedom and liberty, they must be maintained and defended by each generation for it's own sake; it's not a given. The same applies to health and fitness; you have to take responsibility, both mentally and physically, for your own. Bureaucratic agencies, corporations, and even most doctors aren't going to promote what's in your best interest. They're going to promote what's in their own.



It comes down to gene suppression and activation. Poor health from genetic tendencies, diet, environment, stress, etc can suppress genes that are directly associated with cancer suppression. Suppress them long enough and the immune system stops hunting for cancers and tumors. But, if you can reactivate suppressor genes through diet and environment, your body stands a better chance of targeting cancer cells. This is the whole concept behind targeted therapies for cancer patients.

https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/researchers-find-small-molecule-can-activate-important-cancer-suppressor-gene#:~:text=Researchers%20Find%20that%20a%20Small%20Molecule%20Can%20Activate,suicide%20through%20a%20complex%20signaling%20pathway%20called%20apoptosis.

Stay healthy my friends!


Some years back there was a great health article in Scientific American (American Scientific?) titled “Subduing The Supressors”.

A doctor at Baylor had a method that halted stage 4 cancers in some people involved in the study. I believe his name is Doctor Jacques Bercejay.
Posted By: STRSWilson Re: Cure cancer? - 12/07/21
Baylor and MD Anderson were/are the leaders in immune system activation to combat cancer. If, Lord forbid, I am ever faced with cancer, MD Anderson will be my first stop.
Posted By: Houston_2 Re: Cure cancer? - 12/07/21
Originally Posted by STRSWilson
Baylor and MD Anderson were/are the leaders in immune system activation to combat cancer. If, Lord forbid, I am ever faced with cancer, MD Anderson will be my first stop.


Yep.
Dana Farber cancer center might be another.
Posted By: Jim_Conrad Re: Cure cancer? - 12/07/21
I had a friend that quit sugar because cancer eats sugar.

So....he just didn't get to eat pleasant food before he died..basically.
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