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L.A.’s Arms Race of the Affluent

From Beverly Hills to Santa Monica, the crime-panicked wealthy are banishing bling and buying guns

By Steve Appleford -December 29, 2021

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https://www.lamag.com/citythinkblog/l-a-s-arms-race-of-the-affluent/



In Beverly Hills, even the purchase of a firearm comes with certain…expectations. The city’s only gun store, Beverly Hills Guns, is a “concierge service” by appointment only, for a largely affluent clientele. And business is booming.

Since opening in July 2020, the store has seen upscale residents from Santa Monica to the Hollywood Hills increasingly in a panic following several high-profile smash-and-grab and violent home invasion robberies. The apparent siege has brought in a daily stream of anxious business owners and prominent actors, real estate moguls and film execs, says owner Russell Stuart. Most are arming themselves for the first time.

“This morning I sold six shotguns in about an hour to people that say, ‘I want a home defense shotgun,’” says Stuart, whose store is discreetly located in a Beverly Hills office building, with no sign on the doors, down the hall from a diamond dealer. “Everyone has a general sense of constant fear, which is very sad. We’re used to this being like Mayberry.”

That fear has the wealthiest of local gentry contemplating every more elaborate security measures: armored luxury cars, safe rooms and bullet-proof glass in their homes. One client asked about creating the “Tony Stark-level” security of a half-dozen automated drones to hover over his house, says Stuart, whose gun store is part of his larger security company, Force Protective Agency. “If you want the Gucci package, it’s going to cost money.”

The security business is experiencing a rebound after a couple of diminished years because of the pandemic. Some firms had their on-site security guards sent home for health and social distancing reasons. Not anymore. In Beverly Hills, the craving for additional security dates to the riot that followed an otherwise peaceful Black Lives Matter protest in May 2020, with unprecedented looting along Rodeo Drive that left broken boutique windows beneath beloved luxury brands: Chanel, Dior, Gucci, Michael Kors, MCM, Ermenegildo Zegna. Last March, a $500,000 Richard Mille watch was stolen at gunpoint from a diner at the Il Pastaio restaurant. The Dec. 1 home-invasion robbery and shooting death of philanthropist Jacqueline Avant, 81, in her Trousdale Estates home, only accelerated the arms race among the affluent.

“Beverly Hills is definitely a target,” says security expert David Perez, CEO of Omega International Group and a former Marine who previously worked security in the Clinton White House and at the Pentagon. “We’re telling clients, ‘Hey, don’t go out with flashy jewelry. Try to keep a lower profile. Instead of driving the Bentley, maybe just take the SUV. “

Or hit the streets in a luxo ride retrofitted with countermeasures like electrified door handles, run-flat tires and armor plating that can withstand military ordnance—say, the $650,000 Mercedes-Benz S680 Guard, which can repel assault rifle rounds and the detonation of hand grenades, or the $1 million tanklike SUV from Latvia’s Dartz Motorz Co.

With more than 2,000 cameras already deployed throughout the city, Beverly Hills has also hired two private security firms to patrol neighborhoods alongside police. “Whatever the police have needed, fortunately we’re a city that we can write a check and get it,” says Todd Johnson, president and CEO at the Beverly Hills Chamber of Commerce. The city and its population are fully aware that they’ve become an inviting target.

“If you’re going to steal a $400,000 watch, are you going down to San Pedro or are you going to go to Beverly Hills?” While supplementing police with private security can have an impact in smaller cities like Beverly Hills, it’s less practical in Los Angeles, which “has way too few police officers,” says Alan Nissel, an assistant professor of law at Pepperdine University and the principal at the Wilshire Skyline property management and development firm. “Many of our residents are petrified,” he says of the company’s high-end apartment buildings and short-term residences, which stretch from Hollywood to Beverly Hills and Malibu. A manager at one of his Santa Monica buildings was recently held up at knifepoint. “Every single building that we manage has had private security services provided because of upticks, and we’ve never used private security firms in the past.”

On Nissel’s street in West L.A., a number of WhatsApp neighborhood watch groups have agreed to collaborate in the event of civil unrest. “They designate people to block the streets with private cars and surveil the streets,” Nissel says. Some of his most progressive colleagues are arming themselves, including many who “never held a weapon, never considered holding a weapon, but now feel like it would be irresponsible not to.”

Major celebrities at peak fame who require full protection can spend more than $1 million a year on security, say multiple experts, including one-on-one by oversized security muscle, a tactic that Perez dismisses as an “amateur mentality.” Being physically fit is a given for his personnel, but only one of several requirements that also include skill and improvisation. (Think Kevin Costner in The Bodyguard, not the bouncer at your local nightclub.) “It’s not just, ‘I’m a big guy and I can push my way out of here,’” Perez explains. “You have an entry plan and exit plan, because things aren’t always as smooth as you think.”

At Beverly Hills Guns, Stuart instructs his clients on the law and encourages them to visit shooting ranges in L.A. County to better understand their weapons. Customers also ask for help in securing a concealed carry permit from the County Sheriff’s Department. The simplest security option for many will always be a $350 shotgun, as available to the average citizen as to the very rich, but “I don’t want everyone out there just panic-buying,” says Stuart, who proposes establishing a shooting range in Beverly Hills.

Regardless, he knows many new gun owners will fail to get any training at all. “We’re going to have a lot of guns out there in a lot of untrained people’s hands.”
If they want to be safe, maybe they should approach the cartels for security instead.....
Doesn't surprise me a bit, as I have known and shot with a fair number of "liberal" men and women in "the Business," when I lived in L.A. That was at the Beverly Hills Gun Club. Also used to see Spielberg and one of his sons out shooting trap and skeet at a local L.A. range when I was shooting competition.

Liberals in "the Business" are nothing if not hypocrites. wink

L.W.
People who don't like guns or know how to use them....................priceless.

Maybe they should have recalled Newscum....................

They are reaping what they have sown, & so very justly so..................may they continue to enjoy their liberal paradise that is CA.

MM
Originally Posted by SCRooster

Since opening in July 2020, the store has seen upscale residents from Santa Monica to the Hollywood Hills increasingly in a panic following several high-profile smash-and-grab and violent home invasion robberies. The apparent siege has brought in a daily stream of anxious business owners and prominent actors, real estate moguls and film execs, says owner Russell Stuart. Most are arming themselves for the first time.


Screw all of those people, they've been voting for Democraps their whole lives. Now they can reap what they have sown and I hope it hurts.
This is good for us and for the 2A. The wall against the 2A is being demolished, brick by brick.
Originally Posted by windridge
This is good for us and for the 2A. The wall against the 2A is being demolished, brick by brick.



You are so far off base you are standing on a soccer field.


People like us are less than...
We can't be trusted with guns, we are the threat.

They are the only ones who can be trusted.

To them, their needing to be armed, is proof of the need for gun control.
Originally Posted by Seafire
If they want to be safe, maybe they should approach the cartels for security instead.....

Yeah Right that's the ticket,,,get the fox to guard the chickens

I was at a good sized open motorcycle rally, we saw a guy pay to park his nice Harley in the members only area of a 1%er club that was guarded 24 hours a day..

His bike disappeared.
Hey, libtards- - - - -"You'll shoot your eye out'!- - - - -or more likely, one of your family's!

I know what you need to do- - - - -hire Alec Baldwin as a shooting coach. He took out two people with one bullet- - - -one DOA, and another one wounded!
Guess a lot of people will profit from this , security companies . Shrinks for the shooters , criminals , and neighborhood OMG’s . Lawyers for the same , insurance companies , hospitals , politically somehow I would guarantee.
But not a red cent of thought about how we got to OMG !
Kenneth
Originally Posted by Dillonbuck
Originally Posted by windridge
This is good for us and for the 2A. The wall against the 2A is being demolished, brick by brick.



You are so far off base you are standing on a soccer field.


People like us are less than...
We can't be trusted with guns, we are the threat.

They are the only ones who can be trusted.

To them, their needing to be armed, is proof of the need for gun control.


Yep. They won't think twice about continuing to support gun control. Because they know any new gun control measures won't be enforced against them.

Same reason the dipshits are pushing alternative energy and electric cars. If a kilowatt hour of energy quadrupled in price overnight, it wouldn't affect their lives in the slightest.
Ohhhhh, the seeds we have sown.......
Bless their hearts. Fear is a powerful emotion....
My niece just got herself a 43x for a Christmas present to herself. I just sent her a couple Shield Arms 15 rd mags and an UpLula loader.

She's a bank manager and knows how to deal with entitled pricks. Maybe she can pick up some extra cake doing distance learning to some of these rich LA schloms. smile
They would be sweet if Hollywood experienced a Viking raid.
A lot of people think gun control is about getting rid of guns. Well, it is, but only your guns. Rich elites will always be allowed to have theirs in any society I can imagine.
" Yep. They won't think twice about continuing to support gun control. Because they know any new gun control measures won't be enforced against them.".........It's just the NY city model all over again...... No guns allowed; except for those with a "waiver", which is issued based upon a myriad of factors such as; net worth, political affiliation, social standing, and history of political donations. The second amendment will be alive and well - As long as you are approved for your "waiver".
Beverly Hills has a significant conservative population. All of my neighbors are conservative and own firearms. Our Trump rallies were awesome and overtook several blocks each weekend.
Funny that the liberal agenda of 2019-2020 has caused more liberals to exercise their second amendment rights than any other time since the frontier was settled..
It is almost as if someone goaded them into it..
I do not live in California nor have any reason to go there ever again.

I did hear that during the riots, people flocked to guns stores only to be told there's a 10 day wait for handgun purchase (Not sure if that's still true or in effect??)

A common response was along the lines of "That's not for ME, that's for the bad guys".

Oftentimes people vote on a law or amendment without reading it - Like Obama Care - "We have to pass it to see what's in it" - Pelosi
"Liberalism always produces the exact opposite of its stated intent".......... Is one of the sayings used by a morning radio guy who gets carried on a local station here. There sure does seem to be a good dose of truth in that one.
Originally Posted by windridge
This is good for us and for the 2A. The wall against the 2A is being demolished, brick by brick.



the more people that accept that guns are needed for their personal safety......is a good thing...bob
Originally Posted by gonehuntin
Originally Posted by SCRooster

Since opening in July 2020, the store has seen upscale residents from Santa Monica to the Hollywood Hills increasingly in a panic following several high-profile smash-and-grab and violent home invasion robberies. The apparent siege has brought in a daily stream of anxious business owners and prominent actors, real estate moguls and film execs, says owner Russell Stuart. Most are arming themselves for the first time.


Screw all of those people, they've been voting for Democraps their whole lives. Now they can reap what they have sown and I hope it hurts.


We visited San Francisco with a work group probably 8-10 years ago. One of my colleagues, a frickin commie supporter commented "Look at all these cool old buildings and down here on the street its a mess".

I told him he needs to remember Republicans ran that state for almost 120 years.
Originally Posted by viking
They would be sweet if Hollywood experienced a Viking raid.



They did the article says in 2020! It was the dark skinned Norwegians Matter raid.

Osky
They are probably just worried about Alec Baldwin showing up at their residence.
Originally Posted by viking
They would be sweet if Hollywood experienced a Viking raid.


Would there be any Viking food at this raid?
Nah, doubtful, flaming vegans. .
Originally Posted by Seafire
If they want to be safe, maybe they should approach the cartels for security instead.....

How about they just stop voting for these loser democRATs ? Come to think of it, they are just plain idiots. I say let Darwin decide who stays and who goes.

kwg
But I thought they didn't want people to be able to buy guns. I'm so confused. cry
I hear Alec Baldwin will be giving safety lessons
Plenty liberals with guns here, too.

They don't think they're liberals.

I'm not sure which is more dangerous.
Originally Posted by Leanwolf
Doesn't surprise me a bit, as I have known and shot with a fair number of "liberal" men and women in "the Business," when I lived in L.A. That was at the Beverly Hills Gun Club. Also used to see Spielberg and one of his sons out shooting trap and skeet at a local L.A. range when I was shooting competition.

Liberals in "the Business" are nothing if not hypocrites. wink

L.W.

As always, there is "Justice for all" and then there is "Justice for Just Us..."

Common people do not need firearms and do not need walls for protection. Say the politicians and elites who live in gated communities with armed security...
Originally Posted by auk1124
Originally Posted by Dillonbuck
Originally Posted by windridge
This is good for us and for the 2A. The wall against the 2A is being demolished, brick by brick.



You are so far off base you are standing on a soccer field.


People like us are less than...
We can't be trusted with guns, we are the threat.

They are the only ones who can be trusted.

To them, their needing to be armed, is proof of the need for gun control.


Yep. They won't think twice about continuing to support gun control. Because they know any new gun control measures won't be enforced against them.

Same reason the dipshits are pushing alternative energy and electric cars. If a kilowatt hour of energy quadrupled in price overnight, it wouldn't affect their lives in the slightest.


This. They and the MSM is already painting Patriots and Trumpsters as the crazies.

Im thinking they know something big is coming though, like anarchy when the country turns over.
Originally Posted by Lonerider
I hear Alec Baldwin will be giving safety lessons

laugh laugh laugh
Funny how guns are suddenly ok when its your Ox that get gored.
Originally Posted by BlueDuck
Funny how guns are suddenly ok when its your Ox that get gored.

Indeed. Typical leftist hypocrisy.
These are the same people who just voted to keep that dip s--it governor. Insanity
Newsweek magazine is already reporting that we will be in open armed revolt if Trump is not elected in 2024!
Originally Posted by MontanaMan
People who don't like guns or know how to use them....................priceless.

Maybe they should have recalled Newscum....................

They are reaping what they have sown, & so very justly so..................may they continue to enjoy their liberal paradise that is CA.

MM
That!!
Originally Posted by deltakid
Newsweek magazine is already reporting that we will be in open armed revolt if Trump is not elected in 2024!


There might be an upside to that.
Originally Posted by SCRooster
Fair use ...

L.A.’s Arms Race of the Affluent

From Beverly Hills to Santa Monica, the crime-panicked wealthy are banishing bling and buying guns

By Steve Appleford -December 29, 2021

.....
https://www.lamag.com/citythinkblog/l-a-s-arms-race-of-the-affluent/



In Beverly Hills, even the purchase of a firearm comes with certain…expectations. The city’s only gun store, Beverly Hills Guns, is a “concierge service” by appointment only, for a largely affluent clientele. And business is booming.

Since opening in July 2020, the store has seen upscale residents from Santa Monica to the Hollywood Hills increasingly in a panic following several high-profile smash-and-grab and violent home invasion robberies. The apparent siege has brought in a daily stream of anxious business owners and prominent actors, real estate moguls and film execs, says owner Russell Stuart. Most are arming themselves for the first time.

“This morning I sold six shotguns in about an hour to people that say, ‘I want a home defense shotgun,’” says Stuart, whose store is discreetly located in a Beverly Hills office building, with no sign on the doors, down the hall from a diamond dealer. “Everyone has a general sense of constant fear, which is very sad. We’re used to this being like Mayberry.”

That fear has the wealthiest of local gentry contemplating every more elaborate security measures: armored luxury cars, safe rooms and bullet-proof glass in their homes. One client asked about creating the “Tony Stark-level” security of a half-dozen automated drones to hover over his house, says Stuart, whose gun store is part of his larger security company, Force Protective Agency. “If you want the Gucci package, it’s going to cost money.”

The security business is experiencing a rebound after a couple of diminished years because of the pandemic. Some firms had their on-site security guards sent home for health and social distancing reasons. Not anymore. In Beverly Hills, the craving for additional security dates to the riot that followed an otherwise peaceful Black Lives Matter protest in May 2020, with unprecedented looting along Rodeo Drive that left broken boutique windows beneath beloved luxury brands: Chanel, Dior, Gucci, Michael Kors, MCM, Ermenegildo Zegna. Last March, a $500,000 Richard Mille watch was stolen at gunpoint from a diner at the Il Pastaio restaurant. The Dec. 1 home-invasion robbery and shooting death of philanthropist Jacqueline Avant, 81, in her Trousdale Estates home, only accelerated the arms race among the affluent.

“Beverly Hills is definitely a target,” says security expert David Perez, CEO of Omega International Group and a former Marine who previously worked security in the Clinton White House and at the Pentagon. “We’re telling clients, ‘Hey, don’t go out with flashy jewelry. Try to keep a lower profile. Instead of driving the Bentley, maybe just take the SUV. “

Or hit the streets in a luxo ride retrofitted with countermeasures like electrified door handles, run-flat tires and armor plating that can withstand military ordnance—say, the $650,000 Mercedes-Benz S680 Guard, which can repel assault rifle rounds and the detonation of hand grenades, or the $1 million tanklike SUV from Latvia’s Dartz Motorz Co.

With more than 2,000 cameras already deployed throughout the city, Beverly Hills has also hired two private security firms to patrol neighborhoods alongside police. “Whatever the police have needed, fortunately we’re a city that we can write a check and get it,” says Todd Johnson, president and CEO at the Beverly Hills Chamber of Commerce. The city and its population are fully aware that they’ve become an inviting target.

“If you’re going to steal a $400,000 watch, are you going down to San Pedro or are you going to go to Beverly Hills?” While supplementing police with private security can have an impact in smaller cities like Beverly Hills, it’s less practical in Los Angeles, which “has way too few police officers,” says Alan Nissel, an assistant professor of law at Pepperdine University and the principal at the Wilshire Skyline property management and development firm. “Many of our residents are petrified,” he says of the company’s high-end apartment buildings and short-term residences, which stretch from Hollywood to Beverly Hills and Malibu. A manager at one of his Santa Monica buildings was recently held up at knifepoint. “Every single building that we manage has had private security services provided because of upticks, and we’ve never used private security firms in the past.”

On Nissel’s street in West L.A., a number of WhatsApp neighborhood watch groups have agreed to collaborate in the event of civil unrest. “They designate people to block the streets with private cars and surveil the streets,” Nissel says. Some of his most progressive colleagues are arming themselves, including many who “never held a weapon, never considered holding a weapon, but now feel like it would be irresponsible not to.”

Major celebrities at peak fame who require full protection can spend more than $1 million a year on security, say multiple experts, including one-on-one by oversized security muscle, a tactic that Perez dismisses as an “amateur mentality.” Being physically fit is a given for his personnel, but only one of several requirements that also include skill and improvisation. (Think Kevin Costner in The Bodyguard, not the bouncer at your local nightclub.) “It’s not just, ‘I’m a big guy and I can push my way out of here,’” Perez explains. “You have an entry plan and exit plan, because things aren’t always as smooth as you think.”

At Beverly Hills Guns, Stuart instructs his clients on the law and encourages them to visit shooting ranges in L.A. County to better understand their weapons. Customers also ask for help in securing a concealed carry permit from the County Sheriff’s Department. The simplest security option for many will always be a $350 shotgun, as available to the average citizen as to the very rich, but “I don’t want everyone out there just panic-buying,” says Stuart, who proposes establishing a shooting range in Beverly Hills.

Regardless, he knows many new gun owners will fail to get any training at all. “We’re going to have a lot of guns out there in a lot of untrained people’s hands.”



maybe they'll join the Campfire soon...
Originally Posted by Dillonbuck
Originally Posted by windridge
This is good for us and for the 2A. The wall against the 2A is being demolished, brick by brick.



You are so far off base you are standing on a soccer field.


People like us are less than...
We can't be trusted with guns, we are the threat.

They are the only ones who can be trusted.

To them, their needing to be armed, is proof of the need for gun control.


I well understand what you're saying and agree about 98%. But, some of the less radicals will see they might not be as "correct" as they thought. Most will sneer at us for sure, but there will be a few converts, maybe damned few, but any at all make a brick or two.
Originally Posted by deltakid
Newsweek magazine is already reporting that we will be in open armed revolt if Trump is not elected in 2024!


Newsweek Magazine is not alone in its projections. Fred Reed ( "Fred On Everything") has an astute analysis on what is happening ... and what might well be coming down the pike.

https://www.unz.com/freed/stop-lawlessness-and-looting-before-its-too-late-for-blacks/

A very interesting read.

L.W.


Originally Posted by Sycamore
Originally Posted by SCRooster
Fair use ...

L.A.’s Arms Race of the Affluent

From Beverly Hills to Santa Monica, the crime-panicked wealthy are banishing bling and buying guns

By Steve Appleford -December 29, 2021

.....
https://www.lamag.com/citythinkblog/l-a-s-arms-race-of-the-affluent/



In Beverly Hills, even the purchase of a firearm comes with certain…expectations. The city’s only gun store, Beverly Hills Guns, is a “concierge service” by appointment only, for a largely affluent clientele. And business is booming.

Since opening in July 2020, the store has seen upscale residents from Santa Monica to the Hollywood Hills increasingly in a panic following several high-profile smash-and-grab and violent home invasion robberies. The apparent siege has brought in a daily stream of anxious business owners and prominent actors, real estate moguls and film execs, says owner Russell Stuart. Most are arming themselves for the first time.

“This morning I sold six shotguns in about an hour to people that say, ‘I want a home defense shotgun,’” says Stuart, whose store is discreetly located in a Beverly Hills office building, with no sign on the doors, down the hall from a diamond dealer. “Everyone has a general sense of constant fear, which is very sad. We’re used to this being like Mayberry.”

That fear has the wealthiest of local gentry contemplating every more elaborate security measures: armored luxury cars, safe rooms and bullet-proof glass in their homes. One client asked about creating the “Tony Stark-level” security of a half-dozen automated drones to hover over his house, says Stuart, whose gun store is part of his larger security company, Force Protective Agency. “If you want the Gucci package, it’s going to cost money.”

The security business is experiencing a rebound after a couple of diminished years because of the pandemic. Some firms had their on-site security guards sent home for health and social distancing reasons. Not anymore. In Beverly Hills, the craving for additional security dates to the riot that followed an otherwise peaceful Black Lives Matter protest in May 2020, with unprecedented looting along Rodeo Drive that left broken boutique windows beneath beloved luxury brands: Chanel, Dior, Gucci, Michael Kors, MCM, Ermenegildo Zegna. Last March, a $500,000 Richard Mille watch was stolen at gunpoint from a diner at the Il Pastaio restaurant. The Dec. 1 home-invasion robbery and shooting death of philanthropist Jacqueline Avant, 81, in her Trousdale Estates home, only accelerated the arms race among the affluent.

“Beverly Hills is definitely a target,” says security expert David Perez, CEO of Omega International Group and a former Marine who previously worked security in the Clinton White House and at the Pentagon. “We’re telling clients, ‘Hey, don’t go out with flashy jewelry. Try to keep a lower profile. Instead of driving the Bentley, maybe just take the SUV. “

Or hit the streets in a luxo ride retrofitted with countermeasures like electrified door handles, run-flat tires and armor plating that can withstand military ordnance—say, the $650,000 Mercedes-Benz S680 Guard, which can repel assault rifle rounds and the detonation of hand grenades, or the $1 million tanklike SUV from Latvia’s Dartz Motorz Co.

With more than 2,000 cameras already deployed throughout the city, Beverly Hills has also hired two private security firms to patrol neighborhoods alongside police. “Whatever the police have needed, fortunately we’re a city that we can write a check and get it,” says Todd Johnson, president and CEO at the Beverly Hills Chamber of Commerce. The city and its population are fully aware that they’ve become an inviting target.

“If you’re going to steal a $400,000 watch, are you going down to San Pedro or are you going to go to Beverly Hills?” While supplementing police with private security can have an impact in smaller cities like Beverly Hills, it’s less practical in Los Angeles, which “has way too few police officers,” says Alan Nissel, an assistant professor of law at Pepperdine University and the principal at the Wilshire Skyline property management and development firm. “Many of our residents are petrified,” he says of the company’s high-end apartment buildings and short-term residences, which stretch from Hollywood to Beverly Hills and Malibu. A manager at one of his Santa Monica buildings was recently held up at knifepoint. “Every single building that we manage has had private security services provided because of upticks, and we’ve never used private security firms in the past.”

On Nissel’s street in West L.A., a number of WhatsApp neighborhood watch groups have agreed to collaborate in the event of civil unrest. “They designate people to block the streets with private cars and surveil the streets,” Nissel says. Some of his most progressive colleagues are arming themselves, including many who “never held a weapon, never considered holding a weapon, but now feel like it would be irresponsible not to.”

Major celebrities at peak fame who require full protection can spend more than $1 million a year on security, say multiple experts, including one-on-one by oversized security muscle, a tactic that Perez dismisses as an “amateur mentality.” Being physically fit is a given for his personnel, but only one of several requirements that also include skill and improvisation. (Think Kevin Costner in The Bodyguard, not the bouncer at your local nightclub.) “It’s not just, ‘I’m a big guy and I can push my way out of here,’” Perez explains. “You have an entry plan and exit plan, because things aren’t always as smooth as you think.”

At Beverly Hills Guns, Stuart instructs his clients on the law and encourages them to visit shooting ranges in L.A. County to better understand their weapons. Customers also ask for help in securing a concealed carry permit from the County Sheriff’s Department. The simplest security option for many will always be a $350 shotgun, as available to the average citizen as to the very rich, but “I don’t want everyone out there just panic-buying,” says Stuart, who proposes establishing a shooting range in Beverly Hills.

Regardless, he knows many new gun owners will fail to get any training at all. “We’re going to have a lot of guns out there in a lot of untrained people’s hands.”



maybe they'll join the Campfire soon...



They'll likely be less liberal than you
Originally Posted by Sycamore

maybe they'll join the Campfire soon...


Desperate to elevate your status?
two peas in a pod...
Originally Posted by Sycamore
two peas in a pod...


Sycamore is a fraud.
Those people are whistling past the graveyard. Very, very few of them have the mentality to defend themselves with a firearm.
If they had properly functioning brains they would sell out while they still can and relocate to an area that's not under siege by Negroes.

The situation isn't going to improve. Southern/Central California will be the first area in America to go full tilt Mad Max.
Originally Posted by kingston
Originally Posted by Sycamore
two peas in a pod...


Sycamore is a fraud.


more than Bob Brown or less?
Originally Posted by Sycamore
Originally Posted by kingston
Originally Posted by Sycamore
two peas in a pod...


Sycamore is a fraud.


more than Bob Brown or less?


Ol'e Bob seemed plenty real to me.
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