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Posted By: Rusky New IRS rule today - 01/05/22
All electronic funds transferred over $600.00 will be sent a 1099K from the bank.
Posted By: Redneck Re: New IRS rule today - 01/05/22
Not sure if the "funds" will receive it... laugh laugh

My son's a CPA - I'll ask him about it..
Posted By: erikj Re: New IRS rule today - 01/05/22
Funds like PayPal, cash app and the like? Deposits to my bank account won't apply?
Posted By: TimberRunner Re: New IRS rule today - 01/05/22
Please clarify. Or post link to what you are describing.
Posted By: Longbob Re: New IRS rule today - 01/05/22
It is for third party payment apps like PayPal, Venmo, etc... and only if you are selling goods or services. Private transfers to individuals are not impacted.
Posted By: flintlocke Re: New IRS rule today - 01/05/22
The Guardian has a short understandable plain language article on this, sorry about not knowing how to link.
Posted By: Jim_Conrad Re: New IRS rule today - 01/05/22
is this it?

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2022/jan/02/new-tax-rule-paypal-venmo-cash-app
Posted By: Rock Chuck Re: New IRS rule today - 01/05/22
Originally Posted by TimberRunner
Please clarify. Or post link to what you are describing.

Here's 1 short blurb about it:

Venmo, PayPal, Cash App Must Report Payments of $600 or More to the IRS
Tue, January 4, 2022, 12:19 PM

New year, new tax requirements. The Internal Revenue Service (IRS) is cracking down on payments received through third-party apps like Venmo, PayPal and Cash App to ensure those using these networks are paying their fair share of taxes. These platforms, coincidentally, also allow crypto purchases. "The Hash" crew discusses the issues of regulation, consumer privacy and impact on small businesses.
Posted By: FatCity67 Re: New IRS rule today - 01/05/22
Here is a fairly good break down...


New 1099K reporting rules
Posted By: Redneck Re: New IRS rule today - 01/05/22
My son said rule's been around forever - has to do with 'services' rendered and some corporate transactions... The IRS is mainly concerned with businesses like private contractors - and others that I can't remember now...

For example- the farm I work for part-time had to send a 1099 to a private citizen for cement work that was done at the farm.. The citizen is a union cement worker for a large company and occasionally does some weekend/side jobs for locals; like garage pouring/sidewalks etc...
Posted By: FatCity67 Re: New IRS rule today - 01/05/22
Originally Posted by Redneck
My son said rule's been around forever - has to do with 'services' rendered and some corporate transactions... The IRS is mainly concerned with businesses like private contractors - and others that I can't remember now...

For example- the farm I work for part-time had to send a 1099 to a private citizen for cement work that was done at the farm.. The citizen is a union cement worker for a large company and occasionally does some weekend/side jobs for locals; like garage pouring/sidewalks etc...


Been around forever However the reporting rules and thresholds are changing.
Posted By: Longbob Re: New IRS rule today - 01/05/22
https://www.irs.gov/payments/general-faqs-on-new-payment-card-reporting-requirements

Again, this is only for businesses or people that are accepting payments for goods and services that were required to report them in the first place. Which would be the case under a totally voluntary tax system. We are migrating from a voluntary tax system towards an involuntary tax system when you see information reported to the IRS with all the 1099s and lowered thresholds.
Posted By: Rusky Re: New IRS rule today - 01/05/22
A little common sense goes a long way here. If the receiver gets a 1099 then the sender is probably listed on the form. Its all about controlling the public.
Posted By: Tyrone Re: New IRS rule today - 01/05/22
Cash is king!
Posted By: GeoW Re: New IRS rule today - 01/05/22
Watch the camel's nose..
Posted By: centershot Re: New IRS rule today - 01/05/22
Bitcoin take off today?
Posted By: poboy Re: New IRS rule today - 01/05/22
Hiring more Govt. agents is bidenspeak for job creation.
Posted By: erikj Re: New IRS rule today - 01/05/22
Originally Posted by poboy
Hiring more Govt. agents is bidenspeak for job creation.

GDP includes a bunch of government spending. It's a racket.
Posted By: Houston_2 Re: New IRS rule today - 01/05/22
Originally Posted by Longbob
https://www.irs.gov/payments/general-faqs-on-new-payment-card-reporting-requirements

Again, this is only for businesses or people that are accepting payments for goods and services that were required to report them in the first place. Which would be the case under a totally voluntary tax system. We are migrating from a voluntary tax system towards an involuntary tax system when you see information reported to the IRS with all the 1099s and lowered thresholds.





Please don’t inject these pesky facts. We’re on a righteous roll here.
Posted By: GAGoober Re: New IRS rule today - 01/05/22
Originally Posted by Longbob
It is for third party payment apps like PayPal, Venmo, etc... and only if you are selling goods or services. Private transfers to individuals are not impacted.

So let’s say I sell my old “collector’s item” Honda motorcycle to Joe Sixpack. He pays me $1000 thru Pay Pal. You’re saying Pay Pal will then send me a 1099 on the $1000 received and that must be reported on my tax return?
Posted By: hookeye Re: New IRS rule today - 01/05/22
If he sends it under goods and services, yes.
Friends and fam, no.

Could send two payments of 500
Posted By: kwg020 Re: New IRS rule today - 01/05/22
Originally Posted by Tyrone
Cash is king!

This ^^ The guys on ARFCOM have pretty much beat this up. The bottom line is, if you make more than $600 a year on any transfer you must report it on your taxes. The electronic money transfer companies are REQUIRED to report every transfer over $600. It also sounds like if you have a cumulative amount over $600 dollars per year everything after that must be reported by the electronic transfer company to the IRS. It' used to be $20,000. The republicans wanted it limited to $10,000 but the democrats made it $600. That is my understanding via the guys on ARFCOM.

Talk to your tax accountant for the final decision.

kwg
Posted By: Cruiser1 Re: New IRS rule today - 01/05/22
Originally Posted by hookeye
If he sends it under goods and services, yes.
Friends and fam, no.

Could send two payments of 500


The PayPal rule is for cumulative payments in the course of a year received for Goods& Service; not single transactions. If you receive more than $600 in a year for G&S; you will get a 1099. The threshold was $20k AND 200 transactions.
Same will be applied to EBay sales; I believe
Posted By: Longbob Re: New IRS rule today - 01/05/22
Originally Posted by Houston_2
Originally Posted by Longbob
https://www.irs.gov/payments/general-faqs-on-new-payment-card-reporting-requirements

Again, this is only for businesses or people that are accepting payments for goods and services that were required to report them in the first place. Which would be the case under a totally voluntary tax system. We are migrating from a voluntary tax system towards an involuntary tax system when you see information reported to the IRS with all the 1099s and lowered thresholds.





Please don’t inject these pesky facts. We’re on a righteous roll here.


Hahaha!
Posted By: ihookem Re: New IRS rule today - 01/06/22
Originally Posted by Redneck
My son said rule's been around forever - has to do with 'services' rendered and some corporate transactions... The IRS is mainly concerned with businesses like private contractors - and others that I can't remember now...

For example- the farm I work for part-time had to send a 1099 to a private citizen for cement work that was done at the farm.. The citizen is a union cement worker for a large company and occasionally does some weekend/side jobs for locals; like garage pouring/sidewalks etc...


True, as a self employed carpenter I sometimes get a 1099 for anything over $600 bucks , but it is always if I work for a company. I never got one from a private person. though. If that was law , it would be a pain. I just write an invoice , keep the copy and claim it at the end of the year, even cash. I will never get in trouble, cause I have more claimed than deposited cause I claim cash.
Posted By: Jomo66 Re: New IRS rule today - 01/06/22
How does this affect things sold on Gunbroker if you get paid by a Money Order?
Gunbroker already collects sales tax from buyer.
Posted By: MonkeyWrench Re: New IRS rule today - 01/06/22
Banks do the reporting. Get a bigger safe.
Posted By: Cruiser1 Re: New IRS rule today - 01/06/22
Originally Posted by Jomo66
How does this affect things sold on Gunbroker if you get paid by a Money Order?
Gunbroker already collects sales tax from buyer.


Has nothing to do with sales tax
Posted By: tedthorn Re: New IRS rule today - 01/06/22
Originally Posted by Rusky
All electronic funds transferred over $600.00 will be sent a 1099K from the bank.


Hilarious
Posted By: kennyd Re: New IRS rule today - 01/06/22
Fat city's link explains it

A kid walking dogs gets to be a taxpayer if they can catch him. Their example of selling a 5000 train set for 8000 is backwards from what I do. And you better have all the receipts from year 1. Any proof that 1000 honda was sold for less than you paid? Sell grandpas old 94 on gunbroker and the 600 is taxable.

Proof once again the dems are for the little people
Posted By: Mr_TooDogs Re: New IRS rule today - 01/06/22
"to ensure those using these networks are paying their fair share of taxes"

Their fair share.

With the way .gov pisses tax money away there is nothing fair about "fair share".

I see my taxes paid are for value added necessary services rendered. Soooo much fraud and unnecessary services rendered by .gov is the pisser.

Actions like the new irs $600 threshold is how Brandon wants to finance bbb at no cost. Right.
Posted By: rem141r Re: New IRS rule today - 01/06/22
ferfuksakes you must really be a rusky
Posted By: stantdm Re: New IRS rule today - 01/06/22
Originally Posted by GAGoober
Originally Posted by Longbob
It is for third party payment apps like PayPal, Venmo, etc... and only if you are selling goods or services. Private transfers to individuals are not impacted.

So let’s say I sell my old “collector’s item” Honda motorcycle to Joe Sixpack. He pays me $1000 thru Pay Pal. You’re saying Pay Pal will then send me a 1099 on the $1000 received and that must be reported on my tax return?


Yes, if it goes through Goods and Services. You include the proceeds in your income and deduct the basis you have in the motorcycle. Nothing new, just expanded spying on the population so that people pay what the gov't says they owe.
Posted By: mtnsnake Re: New IRS rule today - 01/06/22
Flood the system with paper work, then you can destroy the system.
Posted By: Daveinjax Re: New IRS rule today - 01/06/22
Originally Posted by mtnsnake
Flood the system with paper work, then you can destroy the system.

AI computer systems will process it all. They’ll be a ton of mistakes to dispute that will all be processed in a dispute system that costs you more than the actual mistake. This is one more part of the destruction of the free market system that has produced the most wealthy country on earth. Bureaucracy grows and wealth declines.
Posted By: KFWA Re: New IRS rule today - 01/06/22
I didn't realize that actually passed, I thought even Dems wanted it to be $10K limit.
Posted By: CashisKing Re: New IRS rule today - 01/06/22
Originally Posted by mtnsnake
Flood the system with paper work, then you can destroy the system.


YEPP... and don't forget to take those big fat deductions.

Sell a camper for $10k and owe tax... here is my $30k purchase receipt... "Thanks for the deduction Uncle Sugar... Wouldn't have thought about that until you reminded me".
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