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There's a small group of doctors who think they should because the vaccine violates FAA rules. The Idaho doctor mentioned as being under investigation is being eyeballed by the feds like the CDC because he's not playing their game.

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Audrey Dutton Idaho Capital Sun

BOISE — An Idaho doctor who is under investigation for false claims about COVID-19 vaccines signed a Dec. 15 letter to the Federal Aviation Administration and major airlines that claims pilots cannot be allowed to fly after receiving a coronavirus vaccine.

The FAA and airlines are breaking federal rules that “prohibit pilots from flying with non-FDA approved agents in their bodies like the COVID-19 inoculation,” claims the letter, signed by Garden City pathologist Dr. Ryan Cole.

The letter cites federal guidance that says pilots should not receive medical certificates “without clearance from the Federal Aviation Administration” if they take certain drugs. The list includes any medications the FDA “approved less than 12 months ago.”

The letter was signed by seven people including Cole, cardiologist Dr. Peter McCullough, Robert Kennedy Jr. and other activists against childhood immunizations and COVID-19 public health recommendations, including attorneys from Children’s Health Defense and Advocates for Citizens’ Rights.

They addressed the letter to the FAA, U.S. Department of Transportation and U.S. Department of Justice, and to officials at American, Delta, United, Southwest and Alaska airlines.

The letter argues that adverse events from vaccination would cause “a pilot (to lose) control of his aircraft” and lead to “untold devastation.” The letter offers no solid data to support its claims.

The health events it describes are very rarely caused by vaccination; myocarditis and blood clots are, however, not uncommon among COVID-19 patients.

To support an assertion that pilots should undergo blood tests and three different types of heart tests after vaccination, the letter cites a study published in November in a journal of the American Heart Association. The letter quotes a passage from the study has since been corrected — one of a number of significant corrections. The letter doesn’t acknowledge that the journal added an “expression of concern” to the article shortly after publication, noting among other problems that “the author is not clear that only anecdotal data was used.”

The letter also repeats a false claim that no COVID-19 vaccines have been approved by the Food and Drug Administration. The FDA in August granted full approval to the Pfizer vaccine for people age 16 and older. The pharmaceutical company gave it a brand name, Comirnaty.

The FAA did not provide a comment on the letter. An FAA representative directed the Idaho Capital Sun to a webpage summarizing its policy for pilots to follow for 48 hours after receiving a COVID-19 vaccine.

Additionally, the FAA’s 2022 Guide for Aviation Medical Examiners lists a 48-hour observation period for pilots who have received COVID-19 vaccines. “After any vaccine … (pilots) should not fly if experiencing significant side effects,” it says.

The guide also addresses medical considerations for pilots after a COVID-19 infection — ranging from those who are fully recovered, to those with ongoing health problems caused by COVID-19.
Never happen
Uh, no.
Interesting read thanks Rock Chuck.
I haven't been on a plane since 2003, and will never go through it again. You are stripped clean of your human rights of what you have and what you want to carry, and are searched from end to end. Anyone who agrees to that has lost their sense of being a free American. Never again.
So, if you want to visit Europe or Australia what would you do, drive over?
Dr. Cole is in self destruct mode, and he seems to be doing a good job of it
Of course not.
Originally Posted by WayneShaw
I haven't been on a plane since 2003, and will never go through it again. You are stripped clean of your human rights of what you have and what you want to carry, and are searched from end to end. Anyone who agrees to that has lost their sense of being a free American. Never again.


That's why I quit flying in 2009
Here's the FAA's official position on the vaccines. They've decided the vaccines are allowed for pilots so Dr. Cole doesn't have much of a leg to stand on. He can say it violates the FAR's but the FAA says otherwise so they win.

https://www.faa.gov/coronavirus/guidance_resources/vaccine_faq/
The article twists the truth. Yes the fda did approve a vaccine. But the fda approved one is not available still. The emergency use authorized vax is the only one you can get
Originally Posted by Crow hunter
Here's the FAA's official position on the vaccines. They've decided the vaccines are allowed for pilots so Dr. Cole doesn't have much of a leg to stand on. He can say it violates the FAR's but the FAA says otherwise so they win.

https://www.faa.gov/coronavirus/guidance_resources/vaccine_faq/


Yep. He only has logic and truth. Fughk him.
Originally Posted by cumminscowboy
The article twists the truth. Yes the fda did approve a vaccine. But the fda approved one is not available still. The emergency use authorized vax is the only one you can get


Details, details, details. BFD.
Originally Posted by cumminscowboy
The article twists the truth. Yes the fda did approve a vaccine. But the fda approved one is not available still. The emergency use authorized vax is the only one you can get

Comirnaty is widely available.


Originally Posted by jaguartx
Originally Posted by cumminscowboy
The article twists the truth. Yes the fda did approve a vaccine. But the fda approved one is not available still. The emergency use authorized vax is the only one you can get


Details, details, details. BFD.

Yes jag, details can be important.
Originally Posted by jaguartx
Originally Posted by Crow hunter
Here's the FAA's official position on the vaccines. They've decided the vaccines are allowed for pilots so Dr. Cole doesn't have much of a leg to stand on. He can say it violates the FAR's but the FAA says otherwise so they win.

https://www.faa.gov/coronavirus/guidance_resources/vaccine_faq/


Yep. He only has logic and truth. Fughk him.


He can have logic and truth all he wants but if the agency making the rules say it's legal for pilots to fly with the vax then his opinion carries no weight. About 90% of the airline pilots flying are vaccinated so they're obviously allowed to fly. If he wants to change that he can get Mr. Potato Head in the white house to appoint him FAA administrator then he can change the rules himself.
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Originally Posted by AKwolverine
Originally Posted by cumminscowboy
The article twists the truth. Yes the fda did approve a vaccine. But the fda approved one is not available still. The emergency use authorized vax is the only one you can get

Comirnaty is widely available.


The Comirnaty vaccine only has emergency approval just like the rest of the worthless covid vaccines.

"The vaccine has been known as the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine, and will now be marketed as Comirnaty, for the prevention of COVID-19 in individuals 16 years of age and older. Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine is authorized for EMERCENCY USE"

Source: https://www.fda.gov/emergency-prepa...aty-and-pfizer-biontech-covid-19-vaccine

"The FDA in August granted full approval to the Pfizer vaccine for people age 16 and older. The pharmaceutical company gave it a brand name, Comirnaty."

That's a lie by the writer. Comirnaty only has emergency approval just like the rest of the covid vaccinations.
"About 90% of the airline pilots flying are vaccinated so they're obviously allowed to fly.'

ALL the covid vaccines are experimental and still have only emergency approval. The CDC has admitted they don't prevent covid infections.
Originally Posted by victoro
"About 90% of the airline pilots flying are vaccinated so they're obviously allowed to fly.'

ALL the covid vaccines are experimental and still have only emergency approval. The CDC has admitted they don't prevent covid infections.

Lousy flippin' vaccine...
Originally Posted by victoro

The Comirnaty vaccine only has emergency approval just like the rest of the worthless covid vaccines.

"The vaccine has been known as the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine, and will now be marketed as Comirnaty, for the prevention of COVID-19 in individuals 16 years of age and older. Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine is authorized for EMERCENCY USE"

Source: https://www.fda.gov/emergency-prepa...aty-and-pfizer-biontech-covid-19-vaccine


You are most disingenuous.
Comirnaty has approval for adults.
The EU remains for those under 16.

“On August 23, 2021, FDA announced the first approval of a COVID-19 vaccine. The vaccine has been known as the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine, and will now be marketed as Comirnaty, for the prevention of COVID-19 in individuals 16 years of age and older.

Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine is authorized for emergency use and is available under the EUA as a two-dose primary series for individuals 5 years of age and older, as a third primary series dose for individuals 5 years of age and older who have been determined to have certain kinds of immunocompromise, and as a single booster dose for individuals 12 years of age and older at least five months after completing a primary series of the vaccine.”

https://www.fda.gov/emergency-prepa...aty-and-pfizer-biontech-covid-19-vaccine
"The vaccine has been known as the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine, and will now be marketed as Comirnaty, for the prevention of COVID-19 in individuals 16 years of age and older"

"PFIZER-BIONTECH COVID-19 Vaccine (now called Comirnaty) is authorized for EMERGENCY USE use and is available UNDER THIS EMERGENCY USE AUTHORIZATION for kids 5 to 16 years old.

The same vaccine is given to all the age groups and it only has emergency approval.
Originally Posted by victoro
The same vaccine is given to all the age groups and it only has emergency approval.

That changed August 23rd. The Pfizer product (Comirnaty) has full approval for those 16 and above. I’m not sure of your reason for stating that the full approval is a lie by the FDA - as they are the ones who approve.

“The FDA’s approval of this vaccine is a milestone as we continue to battle the COVID-19 pandemic. While this and other vaccines have met the FDA’s rigorous, scientific standards for emergency use authorization, as the first FDA-approved COVID-19 vaccine, the public can be very confident that this vaccine meets the high standards for safety, effectiveness, and manufacturing quality the FDA requires of an approved product,” said Acting FDA Commissioner Janet Woodcock, M.D. “While millions of people have already safely received COVID-19 vaccines, we recognize that for some, the FDA approval of a vaccine may now instill additional confidence to get vaccinated. Today’s milestone puts us one step closer to altering the course of this pandemic in the U.S.”

Same source. FDA.

https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/fda-approves-first-covid-19-vaccine

More:

https://www.wsj.com/amp/articles/fd...cine-for-people-16-and-older-11629726322

And more:
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/08/23/fda-fully-approves-pfizers-coronavirus-vaccine/amp/
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The latest Pfizer vaccine information from the FDA (Jan 3,2022):

On page 2 of the Pfizer letter: "In the August 23, 2021 revision, FDA clarified that, subsequent to the FDA approval of COMIRNATY (COVID19 Vaccine, mRNA) for the prevention of COVID-19 for individuals 16 years of age and older, this EUA would remain in place for the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine for the previously-authorized indication and uses. It
also authorized COMIRNATY (COVID-19 Vaccine, mRNA) under this EUA for certain uses that are not included
in the approved biologics license application (BLA)."

https://www.fda.gov/media/150386/download

All MRNa and DNA vaccines are still experimental and still require Emergency Use Authorization. I thought everybody knew that and that's why vaccine mandates are illegal. The drug companies are using us as lab animals.

Originally Posted by cumminscowboy
The article twists the truth. Yes the fda did approve a vaccine. But the fda approved one is not available still. The emergency use authorized vax is the only one you can get



Which vaccine? I can't find one on the FDA website. A guy in the barber shop told me yesterday that there was an approved vaccine but it won't be available in the USA.
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