Wondering if anyone (I’m sure a few) has had shoulder replacement surgery? Mine is coming in 6 weeks
Doctor says 20-25 lb max on repaired arm, does anyone know if this translates to recoil as well? I asked and said I could shoot but the recoil question stumped him. Are my big bore heavy hitter days done? (.338, .375,30-06?)

Much depends on your age and the strength of your shoulder currently and what you can gain after surgery. The shoulder is a very difficult “joint”, its more like a ball sitting on a curved plate. The strength of all connective tissue and muscles determines your ability, but Heavy recoil will not be your friend. The metal has to attach to something, and nothing like that like shock forces.

Thanks that’s my fear, I’m 50 and in good condition but one of prompts to finally see surgeon is my shooting and hunting is suffering among other things.
Maybe I’ll just have to start with light recoil ones and work my way up until I get to a point it isn’t worth pain or possible damage.

FWIW, I had total right shoulder replacement 1-6-20.
Do the therapy, do the therapy!!!!

Do NOT overdo it.

When I finally tried shooting again, I started with 22LR for months, to let heal and build back technique.

Gradually increased through to deer rifles.

I just shot a couple coyotes with a 458 Win Mag.
No problems, but not going keep doing that either.

I had my right shoulder pretty much torn off at 60. The highest/worst rating for shoulder damage is “massive” and Zi was listed at that.
I teach trap and skeet shooters and 4 years later I cannot get thru a round of 25. Currently I’m having some custom jell pads sewn together for a pad I can wear. I hope it works.
I also changed over to shooting softer A400 12 gauge models. I still need the pads.
Not sure I’ll ever be able to enjoy another season in Sask chasing geese and ducks with those loads but I can hope.
Good luck with yours.

Osky

Your heavy hitters are done, yes. Fortunately my left shoulder was the damaged one and underwent the reverse replacement. I have about 40% use of my left arm at best.

It's better than no arm function, which was the alternative, but the pain level never gets below 6 and is usually 7-8. One of the best did my surgery. He's a shoulder specialist for the US Ski Team.

I had to quit a lot of the hunting I enjoyed all my life. A fall down a chukar mountain and landing on my left shoulder would render it permanently useless.

Thanks for all of the replies, you confirmed my suspicions. Might be time to start making changes in the inventory and moving to those small fast cartridges everyone is raving about!

Did a snow goose hunt 3 years ago and couldn’t lift my arm for two days. Severe arthritis is the issue, rotator seems intact but can’t tell for sure on MRI due to surgery to fix a reoccurring dislocation 30 years ago.

Hunting buddy had his replaced.

Scar looks like a big shark bite.

Had it done at Tulane (maybe) in NOLA.

Took it easy for awhile.

Back to shooting .35 whelen and 300 mag.

If he had it done at Tulane, he probably had it done by Dr. Felix "The Shoulder Whisperer" Savoie. Dr Savoie operated on mine after the doctor that did my replacement dicked it up. Oddly, recoil doesn't bother it. 12 Gauge duck loads is about the heaviest recoiling gun I have shot since my last operation.

Thanks again for input, giving me some hope, but sounds like I’ll have to start light once I get the ok and be patient.

I had my right shoulder replaced 2 years ago. It was a conventional replacement, not a reverse. The reverse procedure results in greater incapacity and restrictions than the conventional, and you don't specify which procedure you are having done.

My shoulder was a mess before surgery, except the rotator was not too bad. A lifetime of shooting big rifles and shotguns, plus decades of splitting firewood with a maul, pretty much destroyed it. The surgery was done in April and recovery was not exactly a recreational experience, but I tolerated it well. I did the PT faithfully. For the first 6 months I didn't do any shooting, and at 7 months or so, I had no desire to shoot anything bigger than a .223. I did shoot 4 or 5 shots with a 20-gauge shotgun at grouse that fall, with no ill effects.

At one year I was able to tolerate shooting a .30/06 for 20 rounds offhand. Now at 2 years, I can shoot a round of clays or use the '06 from the bench without issues. I fired a .50 BMG the other day without even thinking about my shoulder (but only 1 shot). I did sell my belted magnums and 3 1/2" 12 Gauge. I figure if it can't be killed with a .30/06 or a 2 3/4" shotshell, I am done hunting it. But I really do not feel handicapped beyond that at this point.

Prior to surgery, my arm was in severe pain almost all the time. Now it is completely pain-free. And I can still enjoy shooting. The surgery was a godsend. I have also had both knees replaced and my cataracts done. Call me Bionic Bob. We have the technology......

Get a fast twist 6mm something, and live a little.

I’m glad this went well for you. A man should be able to shoot what he enjoys shooting. I bet that rehab was pretty rough! I’m recovering from having my pectoral reattached to my upper arm, near the shoulder. I start rehab next week. Gonna kick it in the butt!

Or you can say screw the surgery,go to a good physical therapist and weight train correctly.Yes that does work.

I know everyone is different, but can say I’ve been there done that and it failed. No amount of PT, strength training or steroid injections cures arthritis once you’re bone on bone.

I’m definitely looking into some changes in the inventory, might keep one larger bore just in case get bug to moose hunt again. Appreciate hearing from those who have had the experience.

Plus 1. Arthritis with bone on bone in strong side shoulder. Tolerated the grinding, snapping, and pain for 5 years with an active outdoor lifestyle. Finally saw a surgeon in March of last year. He was very concerned by the x-rays showing that the glenoid socket may have been worn too severely to attach the replacement socket. He scheduled an immediate MRI to get more detail, which fortunately showed that a conventional shoulder replacement was possible. I had shoulder replacement surgery two weeks later. With diligent PT, my shoulder is in excellent shape.

Regarding the OP's question on shooting and recoil, I installed Limbsaver Airtech recoil pads on my 30.06 and 308 bolt rifles and 12 guage 870, and use a PAST recoil pad for shooting the old the 38-55 with a cresent steel buttplate.

Thanks for reply, definitely giving me hope! I realize my days of pulling a bow are over, have that up few years back from pain, probably should have seen a doctor then!

I would seriously reconsider having your shoulder replaced.

It’s a long story but I’ve had two shoulder surgeries. I’m a shotgun shooter and mounting a shotgun 2000 to 3000 times a week probably took its toll along with the punishment over the years in the gym.

I had a surgery on my left shoulder. A surgeon ground out a lot of arthritis and tried to make some room to correct an impingement. As usual, I jumped back into the gym too soon and the thing really took a long time and never really got better. After consulting with the surgeon and other doctors in the group, they all concluded that my shoulder was toast and I needed a replacement. My left shoulder was so bad that I couldn’t drive and use the steering wheel without pain that felt like an ice pick going into my shoulder, and I couldn’t put dishes out of the dishwasher back up into a cupboard

I decided to just quit working shoulders at the gym. If it hurt I didn’t do it. That layoff helped, and I soon began adding a little bit of shoulder work back into the routine.

I’m in the gym five days a week now as always. I only work shoulders once a week and very lightly. But I’ll tell you right now I don’t need a shoulder replacement yet. It’s working just fine.

If I were you I would try giving it some time before you jump into a replacement surgery. The doctors always told me that my natural joint was better than any man-made thing they could put in. The man-made joints only last about 15 years anyway on you’ll need another one.

I don’t want to offend, but Lol.

I was there, did the same thing, I had my first surgery on shoulder 30 years ago. Every time I “tweaked” it I did exactly what you suggested. And it worked…kinda, but never came back better or same as before the “tweak”. It’s finally got to point no matter what I do it hurts to put on a coat or even get dressed in the morning. So I am at point that if I have to give up my big bores to wake up and get dressed without pain I’ll do it.
My OP asked about recoil, in today’s market if I can unload my big bores at good price I might be able to afford a custom small fast one that will satisfy the custom gun itch

You may want to ask for more information about other options.

https://www.medicalwellnessassociates.com/regenerative-orthopedics.html

My health insurance ain’t that good! All considered experimental and insurance won’t cover and I’m not considered a candidate for those….yeah I’ve looked into and a lesson for some of the other guys who say I can handle with PT….I waited too long

D,
Had my right shoulder totally replaced almost exactly two years ago. Doctor described it as a mess post surgery. It is a standard shoulder not reverse, he had both on hand if needed. Surgery was at 0700 and I was home that afternoon. Had me out of the sling the next day saying movement nose to toes with nothing behind the back. Long story short I was shooting trap eight weeks later. He said if it hurts don't do it. Now I don't even think about the shoulder, hasn't hindered anything I do. Heaviest recoil I deal with is a 35 Whelen and is no problem. Good luck. Dale

Thanks for reply. Like to hear good results

After watching my dad go through 5 surgeries with two different surgeons on his right shoulder over a 5 year period I will happily deal with any pain necessary. Between his foot, knee, hip, back and shoulder I’m guessing I’ve spent 20 days in OR waiting rooms.
I’ve watched him and three Uncles have joint replacements at 4 different hospitals and not one of them has came out better than they went in.
Modern medicine is 100% about revenue generation.

I had both my shoulders replaced back in 2018. I hurt my right one when I was in a motorcycle accident in 1986 and fractured and dislocated it. The surgeon back then said I'd need a replacement sooner or later but to wait as long as possible as the technology was improving every year. My left shoulder was broken and dislocated when I was hit by a car on my bicycle. It also tore off half the labrum. That surgeon also told me I'd need a replacement sooner or later. I waited as long as possible but both were really bad by 2018. I asked around and found out the best "shoulder guy" in the Detroit area. He said that I'm lucky that I didn't wait much longer because there wasn't much bone left to attach things to. Both were reverse replacements. Both went great and after PT, I have full range of motion except above my waist to the rear. I'm limited to 35-40lbs total but now that I'm retired, it doesn't really matter. He told me I can occasionally lift more but not to make a habit of it. Because I waited too long, I can't shoot anything much heavier than a .243. Since I don't hunt much anymore, that's not a problem. I have all kinds of fun long range shooting with my Tikka .223 Varmint and other light recoiling calibers. Good luck.
PS--Where are you located?

I’m going down that road this myself. This thread is enlightening

Ask around with doctors you trust. Any orthopedic surgeon can do hips or knees but find the best shoulder specialist that you can. Do exactly what they tell you during PT, but don't overdo it. They know what they're doing. Try to find a PT that works with an orthopedic practice. My brother had his done and they started him with movement right away. My doc had me immobile for 3 weeks. Both of us did exactly what we were told and it worked out for both of us. There isn't just one way of doing things.

Try saying “shoulder surgery” out loud.

It’s tough.




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Thanks for reply very helpful, guess I should add location to my profile, I am in Michigan as well


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I had a reverse replacement 3 years ago. I can shoot a 30-06, but with break.5-6 times. Even a 20 gauge shotgun semi auto,I can only do about 5 rounds. Although I still do PT every other day, strength has never returned. I can lift maybe 25 pounds. The new shoulder will not survive the heavy hitters. Abuse it and you will have troubles. I am 78

I have had both knees done, would do it again in a heartbeat. Football and a life in the concrete business ate them up. Last one was in late July of '18, I was elk hunting in Montana in November. Find the right Dr.

If shoulders were as easy as knees I would have the left one done, I am skert...

FWIW. I've had one knee replacement and one conventional shoulder replacement. The shoulder recovery was much easier than the knee in my experience.

Here is an important caveat. The presurgery condition of the rotator cuff and tendons makes a huge difference in the time to recover. My rotator cuff was in nearly 100% good condition. If your surgery includes rotator cuff repair, or is a reverse shoulder replacement, your post surgery arm use will be more restricted and recovery will take longer.

The other doctors that I talked to said that Michael Wiater at Beaumont-Royal Oak is the best shoulder guy in the area.

Thanks, I’ve consulted with him, was my third opinion doctor. Having surgery done more locally as all three doctors that have reviewed all have same opinion.

Good luck. He's not much of a talker but a really good technical surgeon.

You may want to look at OVOMotion a newer replacement option, some great results though early in the life of this solution.

That is for darn sure. BTDT

Have you had reverse? I’m interested in hearing about that as well. I’m going under not knowing which I’ll wake up with, the docs are 90% certain rotator is ok, due to strength, but due to metal from previous repair due to dislocations, they can’t be sure until open me up.

Yes, mine was the reverse.

If they do that, you will find there are movements that you are not capable of anymore. Besides the shoulder, they had to re-attach my bicep muscle, but could not get it high enough are. Consequently I could never get my strength back in that arm back.

Six weeks in a sling which is strapped to your chest. So no movement.Then very slow progression of physical therapy.Your elbow and shoulder initially feels like it was never suppose to unbend.Take pain medication about 1/2 hour before your PT begins.

Don't believe it when they tell you it will be like new again. It won't. You will find there are things that give you trouble, like putting on a shirt or coat.

I am 3 years out now. Still have to do PT every other day. Probably for the rest of my life.

The good thing is now my arm doesn't hang down at my side like a useless appendage.

Are those doctors still the ones at Taos Orthopedic?
They know what they're doing.

This gettin' old ain't for sissies!

Hell, it hurts to put a coat on now!

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The good thing, it won't hurt, just hard to get your other hand in the sleeve.

I have much better arm movement than I had before the surgery. What you get from the surgery depends on the skill of the surgeon, your PT and your own perseverance. The main purpose of the surgery is to get rid of the pain and and increase range of motion. It is not to make you "like new". That's not possible. The main reason for the weight limitations is because some of the hardware is plastic.

Understand shoulder won’t be like new, that ship sailed 30 years ago! I’ll settle for no pain and a little better ROM. I’ve accepted the trade offs I’ll be living with and it sounds like some of them I’ll have to wait and see.

Worn out cuff, one half of bicep tore loose and purple from shoulder to hand - reverse replacement was the diagnosis/order at Mayo. Due to advanced age and lengthy healing prospect, rejected the surgery and have done the work-around.

Resulting capacity not not too bad - only pain comes in surges due to certain positions and especially with strong twisting motion.

Still shoot everything but, due to limited hunting opportunities now, don't shoot the .375 H&H or .338 WM very often. Yes - heavies hurt a bit, but it's only temporary.

You will get that.Mine aches a little when a low pressure /storm moves in.

Recoil rifle wise, I put a break on my .06 and that is tolerable. I can only do about 5 shots with my 20 Gauge semi an I can get a few rounds off with my 50 cal ML. No problem with my 6.5 Swede or .243.

One last suggestion. If the orthopedist doesn't have his own in-house PT providers, find one that does. Not everyone is used to rehabbing shoulders. Everyone knows about hips and knees.

Before I had my shoulder surgery, I was told to ask prospective surgeons how many of the shoulder procedures they average per year. A good answer was at least 50 procedures. Like someone said, a shoulder is far different procedure than a knee or hip. There’s just not as many shoulder procedures.

My shoulder procedure was a half replacement due to a bone problem. For what it’s worth, there’s a procedure now available to replace the man made cartilage on the implant. This means after the original wears off the implant, the replacement cartilage saves a new major surgery.

Also, be sure to note that you will need to pre-medicate prior to dental procedures. Listen to your surgeon, not the dentists on this. I’m 9 years post surgery and my surgeon is still adamant that an antibiotic be taken prior to all dental procedures including teeth cleaning.

My doc is a retired Colonel in the Air Force. I asked him how many of these has he done. He said 4500. Good enough for me. I had a nerve block before the general anesthesia. Good thing too, because that took a few days to wear off. I got decent sleep those nights. The next 9 weeks, not so much. I quit taking hydrocodone a week out. Not because I'm some sort of masochist, but it didn't do any better than Tylenol. The key was a recirculating ice pump that pumped ice water through a sleeve around my shoulder/bicep. I would almost demand that they ask for this to be done post-op.

I did the PT working up strength through a series of progressing exercises. It was a slow deal. I had the surgery in early April. I could barely swing a golf club by August. Hunting was okay that season as it was my off arm. I shot winter league trap and skeet the following Jan. I could get through 75-100 rounds, where before I struggled to finish a round of 25 and 50 was agonizing. But like I said in an earlier post, I'm 2/3rds strength in that arm and have occasional pain that's enough to wake you up. There is also a noticeable divot on my shoulder. I would still do it again because like you, I couldn't even put a coat on. But I'm not sure I'd have another on that arm - if that makes sense.

Be Interested to know more about the nonsurgical polyethylene glenoid replacement procedure? I had a total shoulder arthroplasty back in 2008. Haven't spoke to original surgeon since my procedure, but other orthopaedic docs have told me conventional wisdom was about a 15 year lifespan on that particular part. The steel rod they pounded down into top of my humerus with the ball end of the artificial joint, I presume has a lifetime warranty?
Recovery when I had mine done was miserable, had the ice water circulating pump, but could have easily consumed twice the pharmaceuticals they handed me. Anytime they saw bones off and pound metal rods down your arm,, it ain't a fun ride.
Guess I'm fortunate, after long rehabilitation, PT that was torture, within about a year, I could tell things were going to go well.
Range of motion is far better than before surgery as well as strength. I'm 68, still shooting, working shoulder hard as I want, hit the gym, cautious about to much weight, but can do a 200 pound bench, good enough for an old fart. I do worry about the artificial glenoid joint thinking that's the weak link in the whole deal. .... going to investigate that new procedure the other poster mentioned.

Just to show that everyone is different. My surgeon said I don't need antibiotics before dental procedures but I've heard that some do.
I was given an intravenous pain pump while in the hospital. I was discharged the next day (overnight stay). The pump lasted about three days. After that, I had maybe a couple of hydrocodone but didn't have any pain so I just used Advil for "twinges" and after PT and I was fine. I've read studies that when you have long term pain, that your body adapts to what "pain" is. Since the discomfort was less than I had before surgery, it didn't really register as uncomfortable.

My surgeon quoted 400+ per year, with over 50% being the reverse. He is known as the top surgeon in Colorado Springs for shoulders..He is also the chief surgeon for the U.S. Olympic teams that has their base here.
The nerve block almost killed me. It paralyzed one side of my diaphragm. I had been sent home the day after surgery. I woke up at 1 AM. I could hardly breath. My O2 blood level was 72% . It took the ER over 6 hours to get it above 80% and then I spent the next 24 hours in Cardiac Observation Unit

One other point I just thought of...do some weight workouts before your surgery, if possible. Your muscles are going to atrophy while they're immobile so get them in shape so that it happens less.

Had 2 female anesthesiologists hit me up about trying the nerve block as they were wheeling me into surgery, like a dumb fug I said sure, I also suffered phrenic nerve paralysis, it usually affects opposite side diaphragm of the shoulder which is getting worked on.
Left shoulder had the surgery, right diaphragm suffered paralysis, the bottom third of my lung is" like a dishrag " in the words of a pulmonologist. Didn't know, what I didn't know about that particular nerve block.

Yep I had right shoulder done , left side of diaphragm went.
They don't tell you about all the risk of these surgeries which is one reason I won't have another back surgery ,knee replacement, or stomach tied up to relieve reflux

Already doing, I started training with lower weight higher reps over last few years, just to cut back on the wear and tear. Who knew it was going to be forced upon me by surgery!

You all are making me nervous about the nerve block, that’s the plan for me and doing as out patient in and out same day. My surgeon will not prescribe PT for me..3 reasons, one referenced above, most don’t know how to deal with a replacement and has had PT do more damage then good and second because I live and hour away, in house isn’t an option and third, since I’ve had a repair before, I know all the exercises and how to push myself as needed and back off.

Good luck. If you live a hour away and go home the same day, you are going to be in a world of hurt if things don't work out 100%.
I am not trying to scare you,but this is major surgery. Between hip replacement, knee replacement and shoulder replacement , shoulder is the worst in terms of difficulty. Do not take it lightly.

My advice is focus more on the post surgery. Do what the PT guys say. Don't do any more than they say. It is a slow recovery on purpose. Take it slow and things will be back normalish in 9 months or so. Shooting 22s is fun and a 260/6.5 Creed will kill most things walking. It's gonna suck short term but after you're done you won't have to wake up in the middle of the night with a dead arm. That sucks.
Patrick

Yeah, I realize it will be a slow recovery process, I hope to be recovered enough to hunt with crossbow next fall, but in my mind I’ve accepted I’ll let recovery tell me if I’m ready. Thanks for taking it back to OP, thinking really strongly of selling 338, 375 and 450 Marlin and using to fund a 6.5 creed or 7mm-08 custom!

I feel this is the best way to start with. Once you begin to get momentum, you'll work your way up until you get to a point it isn't worth pain or possible damage.

That’s the plan, but seems like the 338 and 375 might be more than shoulder or comfort will tolerate.

Well today was the day, the 5% chance of it being a reverse became 100% when surgeon opened me up.

For those that said back off, rehab, let heal well. Go for it I did and waited so long the only option was reverse. 2 totally shot rotator cuffs and one surgeon said was hanging by a thread! (MRI read by three different doctors all thought were ok but couldn’t be certain due to presence of metal from original injury 30 years ago)

How did I even function you ask? My wife asked surgeon same question, my body figured out how to function without them, but the cost was severe arthritis with deteriorating bones to point if I waited a reverse might not have been possible.

The human body can adapt in amazing ways, but those adaptations come with a price.

As shooters outdoors people and hunters we all rely on our shoulders. If injure then see a specialist, don’t ignore and rehab yourself… just advice from someone wondering when nerve block will wear off and pain set in.

The worst physical pain I ever endured was when the nerve block wore off following my replacement. Stay out in front of the pain. Heal well!.

Woke up in night and could feel my hand! Figured was wearing off so took 1st pain pill. Not taking to be comfortable, just keep edge off. I hate being on narcotics

Keep ahead of the pain. If it gets ahead of you, it is hard to cut it. Once you start PT, take a pain pill before you leave home.

August 9, 2019

Total shoulder replacement.

I put up my 12 gauge (Rem 870) and .270 (Ruger No.1) away. (fixed actions)
"Heavy Hitters" now are AR15 6.8mm Rem SPC, Remington "Sportsman" 16 gauge and a Mossberg bolt action .410. (semiautos/small caliber)
The Sportsman is okay for a few rounds, but I don't think I'd care to shoot a round of trap or skeet.

Pain:
Pre surgery, I hadn't slept all night for years. Shoulder was bone on bone. Anytime I moved it at night, it woke me up.

Post surgery, FINALLY! Between the anesthesia wearing off and no bones rubbing together, A FULL NIGHT'S SLEEP!

PT was painful...but necessary.

Post PT.
Life is good! 😃
...but I constantly have to remind myself I can't be snatching up cinder blocks, feed sacks, mounted tires, etc.......

I hope for a full recovery! I knew mine was successful when several months after the surgery, a friend asked me how the shoulder was, and I paused, thought about it, and said "I just realized that I haven't even thought about it for awhile". I hope you reach that point. It sounds like you were in about the same level of wear and damage that I was. If you have any rehab questions, ask away...

Lol yeah, I have already mentally switched from 100 lb feed sacks to 50, I’ll just have to remember to only guide with repaired arm!

I was hoping to get back up to .270/.308 area, but I think I need to get 7mm-08 or 6.5 creed on order and a 350 legend to replace 450 bush. ( at least we have the option).



Thanks, I’m restricted to table slide ms for next two weeks. I made it to the palm on the table today! I remember rehab sucked when I was 18, can’t imagine it’s going to be easier at 50!

Dntnddb: I am hoping you recover quickly and completely.
I am with you on the enormous hesitancy to imbibe of narcotics - I have only taken pain killers three times in my 74 years of life - #1 = Rattlesnake bite. #2 = Total knee replacement. #3 = Kidney stone operation.
Several other times in my life I have been prescribed "pain killers" but chose not to use them.
After a painful ligament tear the "VarmintWife" finked me off to my Doctor and relayed to him I had not been taking my "meds" - the Doctor looked me in the face with a stern look on his face and said - "Mr. VarmintGuy pain is NOT a virtue"!
Taking the pain pills actually "aids in recovery" he said!
So even though you may run the risk of "constipation" or the slight risk of "addiction" in your case I recommend you take the pills and concentrate on recovery/therapy.
Again best of luck to you.
Hold into the wind
VarmintGuy

Sounds like your wife and mine talked on phone!

She just walked in and handed me on because she heard me grunt when I stood up.

You're a young man! I did it twice in 5 months when I was 58.

Dang that’s impressive! And hope you’re still doing as name implies!

A few times a year. I'm 62 now so I try to keep them under 10-12 miles. We're going to Isle Royale in August but staying at the lodge. I backpacked half of it about 22 years ago. We'll take the water taxi out and do hikes back in.

Awesome, I never thought about doing Isle Royal like that, I spent a week up there one summer in college but always wanted to go back but not cut out for sleeping on ground much anymore.

I was going to PM about my first Isle Royale trip but your mailbox is full.

I think (or least I assume) it’s because I don’t have enough posts. I’ve tried to PM people but can’t and there is nothing in my mailbox

Hi, I have not taken the time to read all the post yet on this thread.

Can anyone comment about the Ovomotion shoulder replacement joint? I'm looking at that as an option for my situation.

I haven’t seen it discussed here, my surgeon wasn’t comfortable with stemless yet since relatively new ( was moot since I had reverse), but there a group on Facebook if that is something you use that have strong thoughts on benefits.
Edit: I see they do a stemless reverse too, learned something!

Thank you, I will try chase it down.

Let me know if can’t find, not sure about rules on pasting links