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Posted By: Switch Covid in Mexico - 01/19/22
My wife caught a real deal on a 7 day trip to Puerto Vallasrta Mexico with a local golf club. $2000.00 all inclusive in a beautiful condo on the beach including air fare. I asked about covid, but she assured me "no problem if you test positive they let you stay 10 days for free to recover". Now comes the problem, she and her girl friend have covid. She is sick as hell, has been for 5 days now. They are testing her every day at a cost of $250.00 per test, still positive and sounding worse. Resort has her and her friend in complete lock down, can't leave their room. The resorts sends up 3 meals a day and sends in a tech to test every morning, will not allow to go to a local clinic or hospital. All for "free". She's in great health but this [bleep] is kicking the hell out of her and I'm really worried talking to her. Not sure what to do at this point, kind of helpless.No meds, pain or otherwise.Waiting until morning to see how she feels, but seems to be getting worse. I'd like to get her to a hospital but don't know how to get it done from here. After the the first couple of days I'm really starting to worry. So much for a cheap get away. $250.00 per test and now that they've missed the charter flight one way are fare home is $1500.00 or more.Don't get me wrong, the money is not a problem, just really worried I'll loose her in some [bleep] hole third world country. I don't know if I make the trip it would do any good, Guess it's not a time to say I told you so. She's stood by me while I've travel world wide on some sometimes iffy hunting trips and solo hunts.I really miss this gal, and am helpless. Prayers please. Nothing like the good ole USA.
Posted By: poboy Re: Covid in Mexico - 01/19/22
Prayers for your wife and you. I can't imagine..
Posted By: scottf270 Re: Covid in Mexico - 01/19/22
Hope everything works out. But a prime example of why I'll never leave US soil again. There nothing worth seeing anywhere else to risk my freedoms and safety. Yes, I consider any place other than the USA a "[bleep]". Good luck and best wishes for a safe return.
Posted By: jwp475 Re: Covid in Mexico - 01/19/22


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Posted By: viking Re: Covid in Mexico - 01/19/22
That sucks.

Yeah, not a good time to leave the country. And [bleep] Mexico and [bleep] golf (sorry Flave).
Posted By: Sako76 Re: Covid in Mexico - 01/19/22
Prayers sent!
Posted By: saddlering Re: Covid in Mexico - 01/19/22
Prayers sent, id not go out of the USA even for a Free trip.
Posted By: Switch Re: Covid in Mexico - 01/19/22
Originally Posted by saddlering
Prayers sent, id not go out of the USA even for a Free trip.



Thats what I said..............................that why I'm home is the USA!
Posted By: Colorado1135 Re: Covid in Mexico - 01/19/22
Be supportive of her choice, if she's asking you to come get her that's a whole nother thing. Keep asking if there's anything you can do. When she gets home you can hold the cost and I told you so for years. You know they do it 😉

But in all seriousness just follow her lead, she got herself into it, you only need to jump into action if she asks for help. If you want to be helpful then volunteer to talk to the airline and make other arrangements. I bet you can find her a flight for less than 1500 if you think about it.
Posted By: smokepole Re: Covid in Mexico - 01/19/22
That's terrible, thanks for posting, it's a valuable public service announcement.
Posted By: Plumdog Re: Covid in Mexico - 01/19/22
Daughter and I were in Puerto Vallarta March of 2020 when given the evacuate notice. After watching the market crash, then cutting short the stay, seeing the insanity at the PV airport, I felt like never going back. We were supposed to meet old friends after a fishing charter to get drinks. They never showed up...turns out they got locked down at their resort because the wife developed a cough! She got escorted to the hospital for testing, then released when it came back negative. Hope she recovers soon and gets back home OK. For what it is worth, I would go back again now that time has passed.
Posted By: CharlieFoxtrot Re: Covid in Mexico - 01/19/22
Charter a plane with the other gal and get her the hell out of there. Call the consulate if they give you any BS. My guess is Mexico doesn't want here there either if she's got Covid.
Posted By: wbyfan1 Re: Covid in Mexico - 01/19/22
May want to check on a private aero-med flight. Most often done via jet. They're a little costly, but sometimes covered by insurance. If it were my wife, I'd pay it. I use to fly these aero-med flights early on in my career...many to Mexico picking up sick Americans. Often times being under the care of a Mexican medical facility only exacerbated people's condition.
Posted By: JoeBob Re: Covid in Mexico - 01/19/22
We went to Puerto Vallarta this past summer and stayed at a big villa on the beach with a butler, cook, and maid. It was really nice. Some lab techs sent its people out to us for the test and it was only $35. The resort is raping you in the test fee. But I guess that isn’t too surprising since the rest of the stay is “free”. But, anyway, though it wasn’t explicitly said, I got the impression that there was no way we were going to fail that test no matter what. Of course, that was seven months ago so lots of things could have changed.

I don’t really know what to tell you though. Puerto Vallarta isn’t that bad of a [bleep]. It is actually a kind of carved out economic zone where the dollar is an official unit of currency there. Lots of rich Mexicans buy property there as an inflation hedge and of course, there are lots of foreigners. So, there will be good medical care there. You can probably walk up to a drug store and buy ivermectin. But she isn’t getting out of that room until they get a negative test or into the the US either. So no need to send a plane. They won’t let her back in anyway.

Your best bet might be to have her ask someone how much a negative test is going to cost her.
Posted By: erikj Re: Covid in Mexico - 01/19/22
https://covid19criticalcare.com/
Some of the therapeutics are easier to get in Mexico.
Posted By: JoeBob Re: Covid in Mexico - 01/19/22
Originally Posted by CharlieFoxtrot
Charter a plane with the other gal and get her the hell out of there. Call the consulate if they give you any BS. My guess is Mexico doesn't want here there either if she's got Covid.


US won’t let her back in until she tests negative.
Posted By: Rooney Re: Covid in Mexico - 01/19/22
We've just cancelled our trip to Mexico for the second year in a row. It takes some of us a while to learn!
Posted By: Billy_Goat Re: Covid in Mexico - 01/19/22
dang man,. sorry to hear this.

if it's any consolation..... the CURRENT mortality rate is 0.25% (2.5 people in 1000). so great survivability now compared to a year ago (about 17 people in 1000).

praying for your wife + friend + you.
Posted By: RAS Re: Covid in Mexico - 01/19/22
Call the embassy!

And raise holy hell.
Posted By: JoeBob Re: Covid in Mexico - 01/19/22
Like I said find out who you have to pay and how much it is going to cost for a negative test. Then she can go to the airport and get out of there.
Posted By: Mr_Harry Re: Covid in Mexico - 01/19/22
Originally Posted by JoeBob
Like I said find out who you have to pay and how much it is going to cost for a negative test. Then she can go to the airport and get out of there.


^^^ This. Everything’s for sale down there. And likely cheaper than the tests she’s taking and getting positives.
Posted By: jaguartx Re: Covid in Mexico - 01/19/22
Originally Posted by Billy_Goat
dang man,. sorry to hear this.

if it's any consolation..... the CURRENT mortality rate is 0.25% (2.5 people in 1000). so great survivability now compared to a year ago (about 17 people in 1000).

praying for your wife + friend + you.


Depends on whether she has Delta or Omicron and her other comorbidities.

Not letting her get meds is not good.

Contact the consulate or Rep.
Posted By: WhiteTail48 Re: Covid in Mexico - 01/19/22
Contact the Puerto Vallarta Consular Agency. Maybe they can do something to help. Hope you get her home safely soon.
Posted By: wilkeshunter Re: Covid in Mexico - 01/19/22
Prayers for this terrible mess. Problem is, you can test positive long after being contagious. There has got to be a way to get her out of there.
Posted By: JohnnyLoco Re: Covid in Mexico - 01/19/22
Let the original post be a lesson to you knuckleheads
Posted By: cumminscowboy Re: Covid in Mexico - 01/19/22
Ivermectin is available at any of the local farmacias. Which are everywhere down there. Sorry to hear about your wife. I went to Mexico a month ago. I will not go back until covid is done. They pestered us constantly about masks. Go into gas stations or even Walmart and they would say where is your mask. I got sick of it. The hotel we stayed at charged us like 40 bucks for covid tests for air travel. The airport never asked to see the tests. I got sick from something after I got back.
Posted By: flintlocke Re: Covid in Mexico - 01/19/22
Originally Posted by JoeBob
Like I said find out who you have to pay and how much it is going to cost for a negative test. Then she can go to the airport and get out of there.

This^^^in spades. I know a guy who did tech work down there, setting up maquiladoras, everything is for sale...everybody can be bought.....meet the price, get 'er done.
Posted By: renegade50 Re: Covid in Mexico - 01/19/22
Hope your wife recovers and gets back here ASAP.

"Glam" vacays to 3rd world schitholes and going on cruise ships for trips are too be advoided.

Aside from what is currently happening.

Before all this C19 persistent low level buckethead bio wpn schitt with all the crap breaking out on cruise ships.
I don't see the appeal of being around 1000,s of people literally in a floating microbe container visiting ports of call.

Too each their own.....
Posted By: local_dirt Re: Covid in Mexico - 01/19/22
Originally Posted by erikj
https://covid19criticalcare.com/
Some of the therapeutics are easier to get in Mexico.






Everything is easier to get in Mexico.
Posted By: local_dirt Re: Covid in Mexico - 01/19/22
Originally Posted by cumminscowboy
Ivermectin is available at any of the local farmacias. Which are everywhere down there. Sorry to hear about your wife. I went to Mexico a month ago. I will not go back until covid is done. They pestered us constantly about masks. Go into gas stations or even Walmart and they would say where is your mask. I got sick of it. The hotel we stayed at charged us like 40 bucks for covid tests for air travel. The airport never asked to see the tests. I got sick from something after I got back.





I've been to MX 36 times. Have no idea why TF you even went down there right now.
Posted By: local_dirt Re: Covid in Mexico - 01/19/22
Originally Posted by renegade50
Hope your wife recovers and gets back here ASAP.

"Glam" vacays to 3rd world schitholes and going on cruise ships for trips are too be advoided.

Aside from what is currently happening.

Before all this C19 persistent low level buckethead bio wpn schitt with all the crap breaking out on cruise ships.
I don't see the appeal of being around 1000,s of people literally in a floating microbe container visiting ports of call.

Too each their own.....






NO kidding. You couldn't pay me to do that.
Posted By: elephantrider Re: Covid in Mexico - 01/19/22
Prayers for you and your wife. Hope everything works well.
Posted By: 280shooter Re: Covid in Mexico - 01/19/22
Originally Posted by JoeBob
Originally Posted by CharlieFoxtrot
Charter a plane with the other gal and get her the hell out of there. Call the consulate if they give you any BS. My guess is Mexico doesn't want here there either if she's got Covid.


US won’t let her back in until she tests negative.

They will give her a free education and healthcare if she enters illegally.
Posted By: Fireball2 Re: Covid in Mexico - 01/19/22
Sorry to hear of your troubles. Ask the resort if they can get you in touch with a nurse that can bring in meds for her. Or a pharmacy that offers delivery. Since she can't leave you need someone on the outside. Call the resort and talk to them. I'm sure they'd love to be able to say there's no one here with covid, so I would think they'd help you find a way.

Wish I knew anyone there that could help but I don't.
Posted By: las Re: Covid in Mexico - 01/19/22
Get her out to the Tequila factory a few miles out of town. Really good stuff and after the sampling the Covid won't matter! smile

OK- making light of the problem..... good luck with it all.

But that T is some REALLY good stuff!.. I had a tiny sip out of the 5 or 6 offerings (I no longer drink), and my lips were numb. Tasted good too, and T was never my drink. That is real tequila - not the stuff you buy in the local liquor store.

We took the same chance on Covid going to Africa on photo safari in Nov., (not a "good deal", monetarily), but Africa is worth the chance. It worked out well. We came back just as the new flavor of the month was hitting. 26 people off a SA flight were quaranteened in Amsterdam the day before we passed through.

Not so sure about Mexico - going there in 2 weeks. Again.

And yes, we were fully vaxxed, which to most here appears to be a death sentence in itself. Time will tell. Or not, perhaps, considering the honesty of the medical elite and media, currently and most likely henceforth.

NZ, if we can next year, then I'm done leaving the US, except maybe Canada.
Posted By: Switch Re: Covid in Mexico - 01/19/22
Chartering a plane is out of the question, I checked. USA will not allow you into the country without a negative covid test. I checked into it this morning. She had a doctor come to the resort this morning and he treated her with ivermectin and is already feeling better. I think most is mental because the doctor said her lungs were clear and it was most likely the Omicrom variant. Sore, sore throat, aches, and chills, She should feel better tomorrow. Thank God! I was worried sick all night and I think her worry was getting the best of her. Doctor will be back tomorrow and let her know when she can leave after a negative test. Hoping it's 5 days and not ten. BTY she said the doctor was great and only charged $100.00 for a house call!

Thanks for all your prayers, seem as though they worked,

Don't tell Joe and Fauci she was treated with ivemection!
Posted By: mirage243 Re: Covid in Mexico - 01/19/22
Man I feel bad for you and your family, with that being said I ain't going anywhere out of the good ol USA. As a matter of fact, I won't even travel to or through blue states.
Posted By: ribka Re: Covid in Mexico - 01/19/22

That's good news


Originally Posted by Switch
Chartering a plane is out of the question, I checked. USA will not allow you into the country without a negative covid test. I checked into it this morning. She had a doctor come to the resort this morning and he treated her with ivermectin and is already feeling better. I think most is mental because the doctor said her lungs were clear and it was most likely the Omicrom variant. Sore, sore throat, aches, and chills, She should feel better tomorrow. Thank God! I was worried sick all night and I think her worry was getting the best of her. Doctor will be back tomorrow and let her know when she can leave after a negative test. Hoping it's 5 days and not ten. BTY she said the doctor was great and only charged $100.00 for a house call!

Thanks for all your prayers, seem as though they worked,

Don't tell Joe and Fauci she was treated with ivemection!
Posted By: JoeBob Re: Covid in Mexico - 01/19/22
Probably receive better medical care in Puerto Vallarta than you would in a lot of places in the US. The Jalisco Cartel runs a tight ship and keeps that place nice for all the tourists.
Posted By: BillyGoatGruff Re: Covid in Mexico - 01/19/22
Is your wife a US citizen?
Posted By: Fireball2 Re: Covid in Mexico - 01/19/22
Originally Posted by Switch
Chartering a plane is out of the question, I checked. USA will not allow you into the country without a negative covid test. I checked into it this morning. She had a doctor come to the resort this morning and he treated her with ivermectin and is already feeling better. I think most is mental because the doctor said her lungs were clear and it was most likely the Omicrom variant. Sore, sore throat, aches, and chills, She should feel better tomorrow. Thank God! I was worried sick all night and I think her worry was getting the best of her. Doctor will be back tomorrow and let her know when she can leave after a negative test. Hoping it's 5 days and not ten. BTY she said the doctor was great and only charged $100.00 for a house call!

Thanks for all your prayers, seem as though they worked,

Don't tell Joe and Fauci she was treated with ivemection!


Outstanding! Just curious how did she end up getting the doctor?
Posted By: The_Real_Hawkeye Re: Covid in Mexico - 01/19/22
Prayer for a good outcome for her.
Posted By: Switch Re: Covid in Mexico - 01/20/22
Originally Posted by Fireball2
Originally Posted by Switch
Chartering a plane is out of the question, I checked. USA will not allow you into the country without a negative covid test. I checked into it this morning. She had a doctor come to the resort this morning and he treated her with ivermectin and is already feeling better. I think most is mental because the doctor said her lungs were clear and it was most likely the Omicrom variant. Sore, sore throat, aches, and chills, She should feel better tomorrow. Thank God! I was worried sick all night and I think her worry was getting the best of her. Doctor will be back tomorrow and let her know when she can leave after a negative test. Hoping it's 5 days and not ten. BTY she said the doctor was great and only charged $100.00 for a house call!

Thanks for all your prayers, seem as though they worked,

Don't tell Joe and Fauci she was treated with ivemection!


Outstanding! Just curious how did she end up getting the doctor?



I used to go to Mexico a few years ago to fish and hunt. It wasn't as dangerous to travel then and we enjoyed camping on the beaches and fishing in our Valcos. On a couple of trips I needed medical attention and found the Doctors, clinics, and hospitals to be top notch. Most of the Doctors speak English and some are trained in the USA. The resort set up the Doctor visit and he'll return tomorrow. The charge was only $100.00 for a house call. Nice! But you have to get them. Fauci says ivermectiin doesn't work! What a shame.
Posted By: Esteban325 Re: Covid in Mexico - 01/20/22
Don't let the psyops eat you up. That is turning anyways. Treat it as a bad cold / flu if even that... the tests mean jack (part of the con). Be more careful of hospital protocol but since you are in Mehico maybe they haven't deployed the bullshit there.
Posted By: 12344mag Re: Covid in Mexico - 01/20/22
Good news Switch!
Posted By: slumlord Re: Covid in Mexico - 01/20/22
Originally Posted by renegade50
Hope your wife recovers and gets back here ASAP.

"Glam" vacays to 3rd world schitholes and going on cruise ships for trips are too be advoided.

Aside from what is currently happening.

Before all this C19 persistent low level buckethead bio wpn schitt with all the crap breaking out on cruise ships.
I don't see the appeal of being around 1000,s of people literally in a floating microbe container visiting ports of call.

Too each their own.....


Dude

It’s not that bad. I’ve been on dozens of cruises even a few Carnival ones.
I guarantee you there is more filth and more bacteria ridden piss smelling non bathing mrsa infected scumbags in Rural King and Walmart you encounter on a daily basis than on a cruise ship.

Last time I was in Rural King, I pissed in a 4” open hole in the floor where I toilet was supposed to be.
Posted By: MadMooner Re: Covid in Mexico - 01/20/22
I think I’d rather deal with Docs in Mexico. US health care is a farkin bad joke and getting worse.
Posted By: Burleyboy Re: Covid in Mexico - 01/20/22
Terrible dilemma. If you could get her to the border she could walk across and claim she's Mexican. They'll let her in and turn her loose shortly then she can get home. She may have to say she's a refugee or something but it looks pretty easy. Only US citizens are not allowed back into their own country when sick.

If she plays the foreign part well she may even get free health care and moved to the top of the monoclonal antibodies list. I actually thought about this when we went to Costa Rica last year. I though if someone in my family gets sick I'm hiring a coyote. It seems so wrong that a sick American is not allowed back home for treatment.

Bb
Posted By: BillyGoatGruff Re: Covid in Mexico - 01/20/22
Originally Posted by Burleyboy
Terrible dilemma. If you could get her to the border she could walk across and claim she's Mexican. They'll let her in and turn her loose shortly then she can get home. She may have to say she's a refugee or something but it looks pretty easy. Only US citizens are not allowed back into their own country when sick.

If she plays the foreign part well she may even get free health care and moved to the top of the monoclonal antibodies list. I actually thought about this when we went to Costa Rica last year. I though if someone in my family gets sick I'm hiring a coyote. It seems so wrong that a sick American is not allowed back home for treatment.

Bb



So if you as a US citizen present yourself at a Port of Entry, you will be denied entry?
Posted By: krp Re: Covid in Mexico - 01/20/22
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Originally Posted by Burleyboy
Terrible dilemma. If you could get her to the border she could walk across and claim she's Mexican. They'll let her in and turn her loose shortly then she can get home. She may have to say she's a refugee or something but it looks pretty easy. Only US citizens are not allowed back into their own country when sick.

If she plays the foreign part well she may even get free health care and moved to the top of the monoclonal antibodies list. I actually thought about this when we went to Costa Rica last year. I though if someone in my family gets sick I'm hiring a coyote. It seems so wrong that a sick American is not allowed back home for treatment.

Bb



So if you as a US citizen present yourself at a Port of Entry, you will be denied entry?


Ya, my first thought is I'd be going down and driving her back if the airlines won't let her on. There's no proof of negative to get back into the US.

Kent
Posted By: ToeCutter Re: Covid in Mexico - 01/20/22
No pain meds???? Oh the horror
Posted By: copperking81 Re: Covid in Mexico - 01/20/22
Even as fugged up as the country is right now, I was surprised to learn this after reading this thread.

Effective December 6, the  Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) will require all air passengers two years of age and over entering the United States (including U.S. citizens and Legal Permanent Residents) to present a negative COVID-19 test result a negative taken no more than 1 day before departure​, or proof of recovery from the virus within the last 90 days. Airlines must confirm the negative test result or proof of recent recovery for all passengers prior to boarding. ​Airlines must deny boarding of passengers who do not provide documentation of a negative test or recovery.


https://travel.state.gov/content/tr.../covid-19_testing_required_US_Entry.html
Posted By: sourdough44 Re: Covid in Mexico - 01/20/22
Yeah, the crazy thing is, air travelers need the neg test, but you can walk across illegally with no test. FJB!!


Hopefully it gets resolved with the wife. I guess now one would have to hunker down & recuperate from Covid. I had omicron two weeks ago, no testing though.
Posted By: Nebraska Re: Covid in Mexico - 01/20/22
I would try to get down there ASAP in case she's incapacitated (God forbid) and needs an advocate on the ground. Damn the cost, you don't want/need to rely on what other's (who don't have her best interest at heart) may say/do. IMO, she'll also appreciate that you did your best to protect her whether she asked for it or not.
Posted By: rost495 Re: Covid in Mexico - 01/20/22
Prayers from this end. Cant' imagine traveling without the required meds with a known issue going on.

Regardless just push as much as you can and I"d be in contact with the embassy your senator etc...

Covid drugs are so cheap.

BTW people should know about the iodine gargle and nasal spray thing if I'd be going anywhere like that. Pretty proven record to prevent infections
Posted By: rost495 Re: Covid in Mexico - 01/20/22
Originally Posted by Switch
Chartering a plane is out of the question, I checked. USA will not allow you into the country without a negative covid test. I checked into it this morning. She had a doctor come to the resort this morning and he treated her with ivermectin and is already feeling better. I think most is mental because the doctor said her lungs were clear and it was most likely the Omicrom variant. Sore, sore throat, aches, and chills, She should feel better tomorrow. Thank God! I was worried sick all night and I think her worry was getting the best of her. Doctor will be back tomorrow and let her know when she can leave after a negative test. Hoping it's 5 days and not ten. BTY she said the doctor was great and only charged $100.00 for a house call!

Thanks for all your prayers, seem as though they worked,

Don't tell Joe and Fauci she was treated with ivemection!

Nah. TELL Joe and the Ho and Fauxi she was treated with the good stuff. Pluckers.
Posted By: BillyGoatGruff Re: Covid in Mexico - 01/20/22
Originally Posted by krp
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Originally Posted by Burleyboy
Terrible dilemma. If you could get her to the border she could walk across and claim she's Mexican. They'll let her in and turn her loose shortly then she can get home. She may have to say she's a refugee or something but it looks pretty easy. Only US citizens are not allowed back into their own country when sick.

If she plays the foreign part well she may even get free health care and moved to the top of the monoclonal antibodies list. I actually thought about this when we went to Costa Rica last year. I though if someone in my family gets sick I'm hiring a coyote. It seems so wrong that a sick American is not allowed back home for treatment.

Bb



So if you as a US citizen present yourself at a Port of Entry, you will be denied entry?


Ya, my first thought is I'd be going down and driving her back if the airlines won't let her on. There's no proof of negative to get back into the US.

Kent



Yeah, That was my point. She won’t be denied entry at a POE.

But the whole airline stuff is complete and utter tyrannical bullchit.

But it’s easier to sit back and say she “can’t come back” when in truth maybe she can’t FLY back is all.
Posted By: Middlefork_Miner Re: Covid in Mexico - 01/20/22
A friend of mine called yesterday and told me his mother died down in Mexico, just after Christmas
Covid.
Posted By: g5m Re: Covid in Mexico - 01/20/22
I'm glad your wife is better.
Posted By: local_dirt Re: Covid in Mexico - 01/20/22
Originally Posted by copperking81
Even as fugged up as the country is right now, I was surprised to learn this after reading this thread.

Effective December 6, the  Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) will require all air passengers two years of age and over entering the United States (including U.S. citizens and Legal Permanent Residents) to present a negative COVID-19 test result a negative taken no more than 1 day before departure​, or proof of recovery from the virus within the last 90 days. Airlines must confirm the negative test result or proof of recent recovery for all passengers prior to boarding. ​Airlines must deny boarding of passengers who do not provide documentation of a negative test or recovery.


https://travel.state.gov/content/tr.../covid-19_testing_required_US_Entry.html





This is why I'm not flying ANYWHERE outside of the country as long as this garbage is in place.
Posted By: Fireball2 Re: Covid in Mexico - 01/20/22
I don't have any desire to leave the country, ever. Other than Oregon I mean LOL.
Posted By: EdM Re: Covid in Mexico - 01/20/22
I have been deferring a trip to Argentina since 2019. Now considering 2024...
Posted By: Switch Re: Covid in Mexico - 01/20/22
A few thoughts, I don't know what to believe and I sure as [bleep] don't believe Fauci or Biden. We were told that the vaccine would keep us from getting covid and would stop us from spreading it. WRONG! Then we were told iverivermectin didn't work and was even dangerous.WRONG! My wife was treated in Mexico with this drug and was 100% better within 24 hours BTY she was really sick.. Then we are told that if you are fully vaccinated chances of death and hospitalization would be less. Show me the proof. Maybe the the variants are becoming less deadly. Confused!
Posted By: slumlord Re: Covid in Mexico - 01/20/22
I stopped going to Mexico when they started sawing tourists heads off and kidnapping persons.

But you can’t tell a woman nothing. They all exist somewhere between Hallmark Christmas movies and Danielle Steele novels on the spectrum of Pollyanna

And I darn sure wouldnt let my wife go anyway with any of her friends, that’s an IQ point drop of 20 points right off the bat. Much less a resort with alcohol and filthy rapist maintenance people that put chemicals in the drinks within the minibar
Posted By: T_O_M Re: Covid in Mexico - 01/20/22
Originally Posted by Switch
A few thoughts, I don't know what to believe and I sure as [bleep] don't believe Fauci or Biden. We were told that the vaccine would keep us from getting covid and would stop us from spreading it. WRONG! Then we were told iverivermectin didn't work and was even dangerous.WRONG! My wife was treated in Mexico with this drug and was 100% better within 24 hours BTY she was really sick.. Then we are told that if you are fully vaccinated chances of death and hospitalization would be less. Show me the proof. Maybe the the variants are becoming less deadly. Confused!


I think I know what to believe. There's conspiracy nonsense coming at us from both ways.

Yes, they did tell us that and it was flat ass wrong. I suspect that if COVID had not mutated, the claims regarding the effectiveness of the vax would have been fairly accurate. COVID today, only 2-ish years later, is not the same COVID that it was developed to treat.

Ivermectin does indeed work. And it can be dangerous. The only people I know of who were harmed either OD-ed because they apparently didn't read the [bleep] directions or they got a brand of Ivermectin which had other livestock medications mixed in with it. I would use it but I would RTFM carefully first.

My state health department (called Oregon Health Authority .. rather pretentious I think) sends out a daily newsletter with data about cases. Things have changed with Omicron, but in December, with Delta, the numbers worked out to about a 4:1 to 5:1 improvement in the odds of contracting COVID via being jabbed and boosted. I will tell you that a 36.5% breakthrough case rate does not track with the 95% efficiency the Pfizer and Moderna jabs were credited with so far as preventing infection. It is, however, still a useful improvement. The reduction in hospitalizations was less dramatic, probably closer to 25% improvement for the jabbed vs unjabbed if they got COVID and the fatality rate was even less improved .. but it was improved by 10-15%.

I'll ask a question so I can answer it. smile "Why the slide? Why the decrease in improvement as the symptoms get more serious?" The answer to that is underlying conditions. I think the more severe your underlying conditions are, the less the vaxes can improve your chances. The big ones primarily have to do with heart disease whether it is "just" heart disease or whether it is triggered by obesity, diabetes, or high blood pressure. The vaxes somewhat offset the impact of those so far a strain on the heart added by covid symptoms but if you are pretty close to the edge because of those things, it just doesn't take much to push you over.

I think this is also the reason that the homeless are not dying in droves from COVID. Homeless mostly don't have insurance and can't get treatment for heart disease, diabetes, high blood pressure, etc the way people with jobs and insurance can so mostly the homeless have already died from their untreated conditions, they didn't have medications holding them on this side of dying for COVID to overwhelm.

Tom
Posted By: Switch Re: Covid in Mexico - 01/20/22
Originally Posted by slumlord
I stopped going to Mexico when they started sawing tourists heads off and kidnapping persons.

But you can’t tell a woman nothing. They all exist somewhere between Hallmark Christmas movies and Danielle Steele novels on the spectrum of Pollyanna

And I darn sure wouldnt let my wife go anyway with any of her friends, that’s an IQ point drop of 20 points right off the bat. Much less a resort with alcohol and filthy rapist maintenance people that put chemicals in the drinks within the minibar



Beth says " half the monet and all the puusy"!
Posted By: slumlord Re: Covid in Mexico - 01/20/22
What exactly would be the LD/50 amount of ivermectin??

How much of a truck load would you have to eat to be “overdosed and overdosed so much that you required medical intervention”

Can some pull an MSDS sheet on this ?
Posted By: krp Re: Covid in Mexico - 01/20/22
No way would I leave my wife in mexico sick for six days, drive down and get her or fly and rent a car to drive to the border. Or if mexico doesn't have flying restrictions, fly from PV to a border city like Tijuana, taxi to the border and walk across.

Kent
Posted By: JoeBob Re: Covid in Mexico - 01/20/22
It’s Puerto Vallarta not Kabul. She’ll be fine. She would be in faaaaar more danger driving back if someone went to get her than she will be hanging out in a four star hotel room for ten days or so.
Posted By: BillyGoatGruff Re: Covid in Mexico - 01/20/22
Originally Posted by krp
No way would I leave my wife in mexico sick for six days, drive down and get her or fly and rent a car to drive to the border. Or if mexico doesn't have flying restrictions, fly from PV to a border city like Tijuana, taxi to the border and walk across.

Kent



I can’t imagine sending my wife to that shïthole to begin with. Different strokes and all that.

But to say she can’t re-enter the US is false.
Posted By: Jim_Conrad Re: Covid in Mexico - 01/20/22
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Originally Posted by krp
No way would I leave my wife in mexico sick for six days, drive down and get her or fly and rent a car to drive to the border. Or if mexico doesn't have flying restrictions, fly from PV to a border city like Tijuana, taxi to the border and walk across.

Kent



I can’t imagine sending my wife to that shïthole to begin with. Different strokes and all that.

But to say she can’t re-enter the US is false.


Yeah...I had not heard that before.
Posted By: Raspy Re: Covid in Mexico - 01/20/22
Originally Posted by RAS
Call the embassy!

And raise holy hell.

This!!
Posted By: JoeBob Re: Covid in Mexico - 01/21/22
She could enter from land but she cannot come back into the US by plane without a negative Covid test taken within one day or travel.




Air travel to the United States

All air passengers 2 years or older, regardless of vaccination status or citizenship, with a flight departing to the United States from a foreign country at or after 12:01am EST (5:01am GMT) on December 6, 2021, are required show a negative COVID-19 viral test (PCR or Antigen and can be approved at-home/self tests ) result taken no more than ONE day before travel, or documentation of having recovered from COVID-19 in the past 90 days, before they board their flight. Air passengers will also be required to confirm in the form of an attestation that the information they present is true.

Posted By: dogcatcher223 Re: Covid in Mexico - 01/21/22
Women and their hair brained emotional decisions. The GF and I have been arguing about travel. She gets pouty and stomps her feet because she wants to travel. My response "I'm not traveling with the covid bullschit still going on."
Posted By: krp Re: Covid in Mexico - 01/21/22
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Originally Posted by krp
No way would I leave my wife in mexico sick for six days, drive down and get her or fly and rent a car to drive to the border. Or if mexico doesn't have flying restrictions, fly from PV to a border city like Tijuana, taxi to the border and walk across.

Kent



I can’t imagine sending my wife to that shïthole to begin with. Different strokes and all that.

But to say she can’t re-enter the US is false.


Yeah...I had not heard that before.



Yep, saying you're helpless isn't true and someone saying to smuggle her across isn't true... it's just F'n Mexico.

Kent
Posted By: Dillonbuck Re: Covid in Mexico - 01/21/22
Originally Posted by dogcatcher223
Women and their hair brained emotional decisions. The GF and I have been arguing about travel. She gets pouty and stomps her feet because she wants to travel. My response "I'm not traveling with the covid bullschit still going on."



My wife doesn't want to go on vacation .

I think it's funny, she works with the motoring public.
Posted By: Orion2000 Re: Covid in Mexico - 01/21/22
Originally Posted by slumlord
What exactly would be the LD/50 amount of ivermectin??

How much of a truck load would you have to eat to be “overdosed and overdosed so much that you required medical intervention”

Can some pull an MSDS sheet on this ?


Somewhere in the article below, they mention testing Ivermectin at a rate approximately 4 times greater than the weight based dosage of the horse paste with zero adverse effects (0.4mg/kg vs 92mcg/kg). For my weight (230 lbs), there are only 5 doses in a full tube of horse wormer (1,250 lbs @ 92mcg/kg). Based on the research below, I am highly skeptical of the claims of people OD'ing by taking a full tube of the horse paste. If they are starting off with a 100ml or 500ml bottle of injectable solution, I could see a potential issue. But for a single tube of horse paste... I'm from Missouri...

Review of Efficacy of Ivermectin in Treatment of COVID-19 - American Journal of Therapeutics...

The maddening thing is that this summary was published in mid-2021 based on research findings that were documented in mid-2020. In essence, the U.S. Government, Lame Stream Media, CDC, and WHO, have been suppressing / discrediting this information for the past 18 months. With proper prophylaxis and treatment, the U.S. 2019 and 2020 annual death counts due to Covid could have been lower than our 2018 death count due to the Flu (80,000)...
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