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Anyone know anything about it?

Been wondering the same wabi. My knee doctor never mentions it but after two shots of cortizone to my left knee I think it's time to talk.

Cock down to your knee?

Did not work for me - or anyone I know. I think it just another insurance ploy to milk more money before they approve a replacement. YMMV.

Had one in my right knee in September.It works if applied correctly.I used it for three years before I had my left knee replaced.They have to shoot it in several different areas in your knee to work correctly.It stopped pain for me from 6 months to almost a year.What it does is act as a lubricant between the bones in your knee.

Hyaluronic acid. It's something that's been used in race horses for decades.

You might finally get to do that marathon, Wabi! LOL

Mother in Law did it and it did not work for her but she was several years past needing to have knee replacement anyway before she tried it.

I got a consol the 31st at Nashvegas VA.
Left knee been fugged since early may.
Lower leg went one way , rest of leg above knee joint went 90° the other way.
It was exquisite.......

Xrays MRI
Torn partialy healed ACL
Cartiledge peices floating all the fugg around in the joint.
Bakers cyst from it all when it 1st happened from massive fluid bulid up from intial injury.

Hopefully they can unfugg it all with as little impact as possible

Had a right knee surgery in 94 on AD.
Vacumn out chunks of cartilage and grind bone channels to allow new cartilage to form.
Recovered from that very well.

Knee surgeries and or procedures have more than likely advanced since 94 I would imagine....

I just hope if surgery is needed .
It dont fugg up turkey hunting april thru may alot.
Might not do alot of running and gunning covering ground .
Go into field bird and deke mode.
Bout a 50/ 50 mix of both now...


Is what it is....🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

Or the synthetic versions - Euflexxa, Synvisc, etc.

When the knee is shot, R&R.

Alot of this goes on..


Then your ancient
On 14 day protocol on life support.
Do a "test " pull on the vent at day 10.
X amount of time for your vitals to hit low double and single digits.
Then the nurse comes in under the pretext of comfort care all explained to relatives before in person and a " nice" little booklet so you dont see possible death throes is how it is all presented.
She puts a 50cc shot of comfort care morphine in the IV line and within in 2 mins or less it is done.

The medicaid or medicare system money making protocols for treatments and procedures have reached the end of the list.
Time for you to go and free up a bed for the next cash cow stepping off the money making stage.

The nurse of death has the "comfort care" coup de grace shot.
A family member tells her the vitals have reached a level to come and get her at the station while she is killing time on her smart phone while family spends that vitals are going downward time with their relative.

It all seems pretty planned and morbid, set up to milk benjamins as long as possible.


BTDT seen it.

Of course YMMV based on perception......

They need to invent a 3D printer that can use your own DNA and just make you a new cartilage.

Mike

I know a lady that has received numerous shots of cock.
It was very effective for awhile, but eventually lost effectiveness.
Probably got started too late. We all do it. Wait untill you can't stand
the pain. By then, it's too late to fix.


Achilles tendonitis, is my example.
Ignored both being frayed so long that they healed.
With big knots of scar tissue. So even healed, it's not good.
Surgery is the answer. No F'n way! Live with it.

My dad did it. It works for a while before you have it replaced.

A friend went the chicken route a number of years ago. He was not impressed.

I've had it done to both knees,it worked for a little while,but in the end,i had both knees replaced.

I did Euflexxa first (three injections a week apart) then my insurance changed it to Mono Visc. ( one injection) They are all about the same. I have been doing them every 6 months for two years. The last one I had both knees done.

My Ortho doc says with some people they don't see much change. My initial injection took about two weeks to see any difference. I feel about a 75% reduction in pain in walking and general usage, but not in any twisting or carrying something heavy.That still hurts like heck. I still don' t walk very far. Maybe 300 yards.

When low pressure system or bad weather moves in, nothing much helps and they ache.

I also use a topical cream, Sombra ( Amazon). It comes in a cool and warm therapy gel. I also use a CBD cream called Ugly Butter that I get from a Big R farm store. It also has a day and night version. Both day versions have Capsacin in them which to me works as a stimulant. I can't use that.

I highly recommend the injections if you have bone on bone. At least give it a try.

Tried it years ago, before my knee was replaced. Gave me an arthritis flare. You really do not know knee pain until that happens. Doc said, yeah, that happens some times.

An acquaintance used to get gold shots in his knees & they helped to point. This was about 30 years ago, haven't heard of them recently.


Otherwise, will the family Dr. need to set up a person with a specialist to get shots started? I've had about enough, just waiting for next scheduled visit to inquire.

The way mine works,I have to see an Orthopedic Specialist. You want them to do injection so they put in in the right place.

I have a Humana Medicare Advantage insurance.

The specialist takes x-rays and diagnose the problem.

The doctor's office sends in a request for approval to the insurance. When they get that, the doctor's office calls a specialty pharmacy to order the prescription.The Specialty Pharmacy calls me for a co-payment for which I give them a credit card number. Mine is $340 for both knees.The pharmacy calls me when they ship the prescription to the doctors' off and they call me to set up an appointment once they get it.

With mine,the drug cost does not count towards the total pharmacy medication for the year. Which is good because then I don't hit the Medicare doughnut gap.

I’ve rehabilitated a lot of people after knee replacement. I like to ask what they did leading up to surgery. Not everyone tries those injections or has them suggested. It appears to be more of an option than a mandatory conservative step before replacement surgery.

I’ve had people tell me that they had no benefit, a few days, a few weeks or months. I think the goal is six months. Some made it there and a few upwards of a year. It buys some time and that’s about all it’s meant to do. Experience varies and seems to reach a point where the benefit diminishes with subsequent injections. Again, it seems that the experience is very different and individual.

My doc says to try anything before surgery.That is the last option. I know thousands have had TKR but I know several that have horror stories. I'm not a candidate for surgery do to heart and lung problems..
I have had total reverse shoulder replacement by supposedly the best doctor in town. So-so results. Same with two back surgeries.

i had euflexxa shots in oct/nov. 3 of them, 1 week apart. i guess they worked ok but its still not anywhere near normal. i fell a couple weeks ago and about passed out. went to get mri last week and it shows torn meniscus. dr appt next week. we'll see. i know one thing, knee problems suck out loud.

They know what those powerful steroid injections often do to the joints. They get plenty of Rx follow up $ and work with others in their system providing referral$$$.

It's a shame they hide solutions from you guys, just like the Dr nurses do in the replacement industry. They feed on the suffering of others while keeping them dependant on their parts dealers.

Thanks Men, the steroud shot helps a lot! Unless I bend it too far.

Hyaluron. Its slick stuff. Used by many eye surgeons to help slip an intraocular lens in the eye and reducing trama to the single layer endothelium lining the inside of the cornea and to reduce corneal decomposition from trauma to the cornea during cataract removal.

My father received these shots. They gave benefit for about 10 years. Eventually he had one knee replaced - at age 90!

Just finished my second round of 3 shots all a week apart, Did the first set of 3 in June of 21 it worked pretty well for about 4-41/2 months. They will only inject you every 6 months so.........45 days of oh sh$t. Finished with the second round right after Christmas and they definitely help but I am only delaying the inevitable probably going for a total knee replacement in June of 22, I am sick and tired of the bone on bone grinding and trying to go down stairs.
Good luck

It helped my brother for a couple of years. Knee replacement after that.

If you have no cartilage left, time for a replacement.

If you have cartilage in the knee, peptides can work. BPC 157 and TB 500 are good for cartilage repair.

https://www.peptidesciences.com/rep...pc-157-arignate-thymosin-beta-4-fragment

Thanks for providing that information.
I've used the non Rx form of OTC supplement Hyaluronic acid on and off when needed over the decades. It's the best I've found to replace the lubrication that's sometimes lacking when joints are injured.
There are additional foods and supplements that provide what are necessary for healing. I've found that the additional HA makes that time period of healing tolerable and helps prevent additional wear. I've been grateful for those with all the joint injuries over the years.

Euflexxa was EXCELLENT for me.

I went down this path last summer. Torn meniscus and arthritis. Started with the steroid shot and that reduced the swelling for a few weeks.
Next step was the Synvisic shot which didn't help me any. Got the knee replaced in October and I am pain free finally. The first 2 weeks after knee replacement surgery were pretty tough but I'm glad that I had it done.

Good luck to you!

My barber went to Mayo and had stem cell injections.He was not quite bone on bone.That was three years ago and he walks with no pain.They pull a plug from your hip,throw it into a blender and shoot it back into your knee.Insurance will not cover it as they call it experimental .He payed 3 grand to have it done.

Wabigoon, the Rooster comb is high in hyaluronic acid.
When it's purified/ refined and injected directly, it supplements what your body is lacking in that location. I'm not certain, but guess that the physician injects that directly into the synovial cavity/ joint capsule. If you take it orally, and your body absorbs and utilizes it in the joints throughout the body, the joints still need the raw materials necessary for repair. Sometimes the inflammation is simply from an inflammatory diet. Sometimes a sedentary period of time can lead to soreness. Other times it's injury. Most people just don't eat enough foods rich in the necessary nutrients for repair. That along with soda pop, which leaches minerals, glutens, that block absorption are common causes.

Hyalauronic acid is the stuff from rooster comb. made my knees worse and hurt like hell getting the injections. To me, worthless or worse.

LOL

Lots of articles on peptides: https://boherald.com/peptides-can-cure-arthritis-effectively-according-to-a-study/


Hyalauronic acid sometimes works for awhile.

I went through all the myriad injections, topicals, pills, and witch doctor cures for years. Finally had both knees replaced in 2020, one in February, the other in July. The surgeon used a "robot" to guide the cutting. I'm wishing I had it done 10 years earlier! I walk at least 1 1/2 miles a day, weather allowing, with little to no pain. I DID lose 25 lb prior to surgery, which helped with recovery.
The absolute best favor you can give yourself is to religiously follow the rehab regimen. I was off the walker in 2 weeks, and the cane in 5 both times.

HA should not be looked at as a cure. The body produces what you probably heard of called synovial fluid. It's the lubricant for all joints. A quality HA oral supplement does the same as an injection. It helps like oil on a bearing. Like oil, it doesn't refinish the bearing surface. IF the body has the raw materials and is laying down the "oil" consistently, things like pain and wear go away.
That's where other suppliments, habits and food/ diet mods come into their own.

We are lucky to live now, medical science has made so much progress.

I started with cortisone which worked for about a year. My second cortisone shot then worked for a few weeks.
We then went with Synvisc which also worked well, until it didn’t; about 14 months.

I then had a PRP injection, which resulted in significant discomfort for 2-3 days. Once the swelling went down, it’s been great for close to a year. I know a total knee replacement is in my future but I’ll put it off while I get relief via injections.

I just wish that those smart physicians would do what two of them on the CF do. Study human health .
For example, I have yet to meet a gastroenterologist (doctor of the food tube) study food/ nutrition. They probably exist, but they seem rare.

As to joint pain, we've all had it.
Certain foods cause pain and the joint is simply inflamed.
(Swelling, pain, heat...)
What is the cause?
That's the $ 30,000 question that needs answered and corrected.

If I take my car to a mechanic because my car engine is knocking and losing power, I don't want him to tell me to put in ear plugs and turn up the radio. When the engine blows, just replace it. Likewise, the pain signals are the check engine light and knocking. Drugs don't elicit healing or cure the root problem. The whole medical model is based upon drugs and then surgery. That said, I'm glad those who had that done made it through ok.

Are platelet rich plasma injections covered by insurance these days?

You are way behind the curve. Research it for once instead of just spouting off.

I oversimplified a bit for the reader, but the concept is sound. I'll leave the injections to those who do that, but I have seen plenty of temp relief from HA supplementation.

WebMD
"Your body makes hyaluronic acid. It's a natural part of the fluid that helps lubricate and cushion your joints and keeps them working smoothly.
When you have osteoarthritis (OA), the hyaluronic acid in the affected joint thins. Hyaluronic acid injections add to your body's natural supply. You may hear your doctor refer to these injections as "viscosupplementation," which literally means they help the fluid in your joints."

I had a knee damaged in an accident 4 years ago. I get alternating shots of synvisc and cortisone every three months since. I was told cortisone cannot be given continuously.
I am currently waiting to be accepted for a recently approved procedure where they open you up and insert an artificial meniscus. Looks like a little circular hollowed out hockey puck.

Oskyx

Steroid injections will definitely decrease in effectiveness over time.One thing about the HA injections is you have to also exercise to build the muscles back.No it won't cure it, it isn't meant to. It does provide some lubrication to reduce the pain and almost all of them must be done every 6 months .
All I can say is they have been working for me for 2 years. some of the replies it appears others have had success also..YMMV

PRP is not covered by insurance. My doc charged $700. I know a guy who had it done at a beauty salon for maybe half that amount. No hairdresser is injection sh it into me!

LoL!

I was just curious, because it's been gaining acceptance outside sports injury medicine. It used to be used just in sports medicine and by integrative physicians. It's one of only a few in that category of injectables that is offering hope of long term healing.
I'm glad you are better.

That's great. Good to get first hand experience.

I has the Rooster shots both knees, it helped for maybe 5 days.
Next I had double knee replacement best thing I ever did.
It will be 10 years ago in March that I had the operation.
Never had a need to go back either. Golf game really improved.

Mark

And yet, you feel the need to flap your lips...

I've used the 3-shot series in both knees over the past 6-7 years with success. My right knee was bad enough that I had a total replacement that went well. I still get shots in my left knee about once every year or two. Obviously, much depends on the condition of your knee to start with. Losing some weight is the best gift you can give your knees!

LoL!
Hey rooster comb, I've been using hyaluronic acid and recommending it for decades. I'm not against the injections, but why would I push someone to spending a bunch of money on office fees and costly procedures when a relatively low cost proven oral supplement works?

Using it for decades?

What are you? 79 years old ?

Lots of fights, accidents, hardcore MA training is hard on the joints. I've had serious injuries from the top of my spine to my toes. Destroyed knuckles, "permanently" injured wrists, all the way down. I learned what works first hand.

Hmm spine?

Barnabus has had some similar injuries he’s mentioned over the years.

Yup, upper thoracic all the way to the sacroiliac.
Make fun of it all you want. You don't want to go through it.

Bill.....you ain't never been in hard fight in your little puzzy azz life and you know it.
Just more of your spun lies...
Crappy Hamster is Barnabus running this alter ego sock puppet schit on here....
Barnabus is a mediocre Preacher at best living vicariously on the web....

How Christian of you....
Keep it up d bag...
Gonna be real embarassing and lots of explaining for you to do back in jerkwater SC....
Bipolar neurotic fuggtard is what you are

#longgame

I got my own back problems

Earned them from being a man

Does it hurt to stand and preach more than 15 mins?



Have to have your song leader burn up 18 mins of your sermon slot cause of your weak message?

Anyone ever try to smother you with a pillow?
lol

No sir... I cant say that I have 😂

I been treed by a skunk once tho

LMAO!

Another fruedian slip by Barney Bus running his surpressed ego sock puppet Happy Camper.
Bill....you gotta be really flustered cause you are fugging up by the #,s and not even realizing it ....
Or you are such a neurotic fugg you think you can still spin it all.... Because you think your smart🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️👍🤣🤣🤣
Funny as fugg some pastor in SC is on here and other sites playing sockpuppet troll schit.

How christain of you perpetrating schit like this. .......

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Wait. “Frank” claims to be in WV.

My experience was 3-6 months of really good benefit after cortisone and then Synvisc, followed by lessened pain for up to a year. But, eventually I was told my insurance at the time (BC/BS) determined that Synvisc didn't work for everyone the same way and they called it "experimental" or some such and would no longer cover it.

Cortisone shot once a year or so until it was replaced due to bone on bone by that time, and now it only aches now and again. Can't touch my ass with my heel as I can with the other leg, but the doc says I've done better than 95% of his patients. Worked like hell on the PT to get as full range of motion.

Been elk hunting on it 6 months or so post replacement, I'd call it a success. Greatly diminished my need for and use of anti inflammatories and pain meds.

The two people I know that did PRP, weren’t that happy. Both about 50,, it worked for awhile and then they needed to repeat it, at their expense , in a few months.

From what I’ve read, PRP works best on young people and works best on tennis elbows.

Most people have to repeat it before permanent healing takes place according to the integrative physician I know. A few it's one Procedure, while some it's half a dozen or so.
It would be nice if more offices offered it. That would bring the price down.

Oh boy Howdy, Crappey Hampster & Barney bus are the same "deuce shute" !