Only 44% of Americans can. Just saw that on Charles Payne and thought wow. Over half of Americans would have to charge it on a credit card, borrow from a family member or take out a loan for $1000.
We've had to do it many times but put on our Costco CC even though we don't have to. We play it off immediately but get a cash refund at the end of the year.
Yes and so could my 23 year old daughter and my 20 year old son. Fiscal responsibility was one of the major lessons they were taught while growing up in our home. Our school system should spend the time and effort they put into social justice into teaching fiscal responsibility to our youth, our country would be better off.
Only 44% of Americans can. Just saw that on Charles Payne and thought wow. Over half of Americans would have to charge it on a credit card, borrow from a family member or take out a loan for $1000.
That’s insane! In my opinion….. A very few are in that situation through little fault of their own. The vast majority have $200 Nikes, an IPhone 13, and many extravagances but zero savings. Not sure what one does about them, except helping them via handouts of taxpayer money only enables them.
Well I figured most of the Campfire members would have no problem covering $1000, most have that much in their 'just in case I find a good deal' gun fund. I also imagine many of the Campfire members are 40+ and know what it's like to be financially responsible. I was just shocked when I saw that over 1/2 of Americans could not come up with $1000 if they needed to.
We've had to do it many times but put on our Costco CC even though we don't have to. We play it off immediately but get a cash refund at the end of the year.
Same here.
The neighbor has a boat, camper, diesel truck, ATV.,2 mules,horse trailer, and a bunch of other toys. He goes hunting and fishing all the time, his wife travels all over, he is always broke and complains he can't afford anything
I can, but I have noticed that I have had to dip into our "nest egg" more this year than any year since we've had the nest egg. It won't even be a quail egg if this crap keeps going.
We live in a low wage service jobs society. Nearly all of my day to day purchases and transactions from buying groceries, to fast food, family type restaurants, gun stores, hardware stores, clothes, fuel, appliances and household items ect, ect. Hardly any of the employees own the business or sell products manufactured here. It’s nearly all at or just above minimum wage workers employed by a big box or chain store selling products manufactured in China. It’s probably that way for almost all of us.
Unless I’m going to see my doctor or a lawyer odds are pretty good that the person I’m buying a product or service from probably makes very little money with a few rich folks at the top of corporate ownership.
Just remember this. Think about how dumb the average person is. And then consider that half the people are dumber then that person. And there's your answer.
A close friend of my GF lives in a 2+ million dollar home, three Mercedes, and lots and lots of flash and bling.
Her husband is a veterinarian who "left" his practice (seems he was forced out) and was without work for two months. They wound up returning the cars (all were leased), a 30+ ft boat (I doubt it was paid for), and most of her high priced jewelry in order to keep paying the mortgage and school fees for their kid. That pretty much demonstrates the lack of fiscal discipline that the majority of Americans possess - regardless of your income bracket.
Hate to see people in that position, but they sort of did it to themselves. Can't imagine the pressure of living so far beyond your means just to impress others.
We live in a low wage service jobs society. Nearly all of my day to day purchases and transactions from buying groceries, to fast food, family type restaurants, gun stores, hardware stores, clothes, fuel, appliances and household items ect, ect. Hardly any of the employees own the business or sell products manufactured here. It’s nearly all at or just above minimum wage workers employed by a big box or chain store selling products manufactured in China. It’s probably that way for almost all of us.
Unless I’m going to see my doctor or a lawyer odds are pretty good that the person I’m buying a product or service from probably makes very little money with a few rich folks at the top of corporate ownership.
I disagree. I know virtually all of my nieces and nephews (about 25 people) are in their mid 30s to mid 50s. None of them come from money, at all. Eighty percent of them have nice homes, decent cars, very good careers. A couple have likely moved in to seven figures net worth, and all of the rest of the 80% are doing quite well and $1000 in unplanned expense would be a non issue. The other 20%, all from one “non father” and wife are just getting by, because they were not raised right. Also I know a lot of other non relatives that are not top echelon in their job/career, that are doing pretty well. You don’t have to be a doctor, lawyer or corporate exec to do well in the USA, but being stupid financially makes for a rough life.
Sadly, I'm not surprised. The very essence of being a liberal means no consequences for your schitty life choices. About 43% of the nation identifies or leans 'democrat'. So it's really no great mystery at all.
Just remember this. Think about how dumb the average person is. And then consider that half the people are dumber then that person. And there's your answer.
A close friend of my GF lives in a 2+ million dollar home, three Mercedes, and lots and lots of flash and bling.
Her husband is a veterinarian who "left" his practice (seems he was forced out) and was without work for two months. They wound up returning the cars (all were leased), a 30+ ft boat (I doubt it was paid for), and most of her high priced jewelry in order to keep paying the mortgage and school fees for their kid. That pretty much demonstrates the lack of fiscal discipline that the majority of Americans possess - regardless of your income bracket.
Hate to see people in that position, but they sort of did it to themselves. Can't imagine the pressure of living so far beyond your means just to impress others.
See this everyday in the building industry. People buy to impress. And one little thing goes wrong they lose everything .
Many focus on a lack of money, not enough focus on a society that normalizes excessive consumption and stupid spending habits. And credit card companies and other usurers enable this kind of behavior. Personally I share the bible's position on this.
We live in a low wage service jobs society. Nearly all of my day to day purchases and transactions from buying groceries, to fast food, family type restaurants, gun stores, hardware stores, clothes, fuel, appliances and household items ect, ect. Hardly any of the employees own the business or sell products manufactured here. It’s nearly all at or just above minimum wage workers employed by a big box or chain store selling products manufactured in China. It’s probably that way for almost all of us.
Unless I’m going to see my doctor or a lawyer odds are pretty good that the person I’m buying a product or service from probably makes very little money with a few rich folks at the top of corporate ownership.
I disagree. I know virtually all of my nieces and nephews (about 25 people) are in their mid 30s to mid 50s. None of them come from money, at all. Eighty percent of them have nice homes, decent cars, very good careers. A couple have likely moved in to seven figures net worth, and all of the rest of the 80% are doing quite well and $1000 in unplanned expense would be a non issue. The other 20%, all from one “non father” and wife are just getting by, because they were not raised right. Also I know a lot of other non relatives that are not top echelon in their job/career, that are doing pretty well. You don’t have to be a doctor, lawyer or corporate exec to do well in the USA, but being stupid financially makes for a rough life.
It wasn’t my intent to claim that you need to be a doctor, lawyer or corporate exec. I’m certainly none of those things and can cover 1k.
My point being that the US has turned into a low wage service industry rather than a decent wage manufacturing economy. How many transactions for goods and services on a daily basis do most of us make with minimum wage level employees? It’s the big majority IMO.
Gone are the days where you buy an appliance, gas, or groceries from a mom and pop business owner making a decent income. We buy them from Best Buy, Home, Depot, Speedway, Walmart, Kroger ect with minimum wage clerks and shelf stockers, and typically low wage store management and a small handful of executives at the top with most of what’s sold manufactured in China. We don’t manufacture and what we sell at retail is sold by corporate giants.
Literally the vast majority of transactions that most of us have day to day in our lives is with at or close to minimum wage workers.
I work at a bank I overhear people making their vehicle payments one for her one for him one at $700 the other one at $1,200 .... what the hell !! Who needs that !!! On top of that you have to buy insurance and then fill the thing up .... how the hell do you have fun when you spend that kind of money on just your freaking four wheels...lol
i remember being young and naive about money, job security, etc and let my ass hang out a little too far. let things run a little thin but thankfully never got bit. i also remember feeling fat, dumb and happy and having a good bit of money saved, good job, etc and getting slammed with layoffs i never saw coming when the dotcom bubble blew. i saw grown men cry and throw schit around their offices, threaten to burn the place down, etc. it was a sick feeling and it really made an impression on me.
I have to add... I ant hurting in no ways nowadays....but I was a CASH guy for like 10-12 years....never had so much money or the stuff I got with it nowadays days the cards can eat your lunch
It is a sad thing when it comes to savings and being able to pay your way. Just think of how bad off many would be if they had to endure the Great Depression the way many of our kin did.
Tell me that again after lightning fries your water pump or your fridge/freezer conks out.
That’s home maintenance; not an emergency. Happens all the time. Be prepared for it.
Yeah, be prepared for lightning strikes and any other natural disasters that might arise. Such things are not emergencies. LOL
I’m just telling you what I do. I drive what I can pay for. I live in what I can pay for. When it breaks, I fix or replace it. It isn’t a big deal if you aren’t making payments.
The goal is not to live within your means. The goal is to live below your means. That way, if you lose your job and have to take a pay cut, it's no big deal. The rich stay rich by acting like they're poor and the poor stay poor by acting like they're rich. Like others have said, look at all the people with expensive cars, big houses and the latest electronic gadgets, but have no money in the bank. Every time I got a raise, I'd keep the same take-home and just put the raise into investments.
Tell me that again after lightning fries your water pump or your fridge/freezer conks out.
That’s home maintenance; not an emergency. Happens all the time. Be prepared for it.
Yeah, be prepared for lightning strikes and any other natural disasters that might arise. Such things are not emergencies. LOL
I’m just telling you what I do. I drive what I can pay for. I live in what I can pay for. When it breaks, I fix or replace it. It isn’t a big deal if you aren’t making payments.
I'd be willing to bet that the vast majority of people would consider those things emergencies.
A sociologist could dig into the facts of folks stuck in this situation, and I suspect, come up with some conclusions that would surprise none of us. As far as who these folks are, how they think, how they vote, their spending priorities, to some degree their age, what they like for entertainment....on and on. I have a renter, a damn good finish carpenter, 48 yr old, with earning potential, but he just can't put the puzzle together....he told me over a year ago, I'm going to have to do something about my Ford diesel, it's dying. Sure enough it did last month and he had to borrow money from his Mom to get another pickup to go to work. I couldn't sleep a wink if I was that close to disaster. On the other hand, I know some working moms that have to live like that, schidt job, kids, that don't squander money, that live hand to mouth. They just pray the old car don't go tits up. I got sympathy for the ones that are still trying and don't begrudge their kids the free lunch at school.
Only 44% of Americans can. Just saw that on Charles Payne and thought wow. Over half of Americans would have to charge it on a credit card, borrow from a family member or take out a loan for $1000.
How could they possibly know that ? How many here was contacted ?
An older accountant friend of my parents and I were talking about this one day. He told me stories of Dr's, Lawyers, executives etc all filing bankruptcy because they just couldn't live within their means. It doesn't matter how much one makes if they can't live below their means. "pay yourself first" was beat into my head. I thank him for those chats all the time. Life is much more pleasant when you're debt free.
Divorce, job loss, sick kid....still afloat. Spent many a night busting knuckles to fix crap to be functional next day. Worked 2 jobs too.
Do what ya gotta do.
Not what necessarilly what you want to do.
Hear younger folks pissing money away, they usually say " gotta live my life ".
Entitled to have fun, whenever, even if it costs them a future.
Fuggin idiots.
My mother in law raised three children as a single mom working at a shirt factory. Today, she has a fat bank account, a house, nice car, and 120 acres. If she can do it, I can too.
Was close friends with a USAF Flight Surgeon for decades. Guy always had the latest camera and computer gear. Full bird Colonel (0-6) with flight pay and other bonuses. One day he confided to me his monthly balance on just one credit card was roughly $25,000. And no, he never was able to pay it off to avoid interest.
Tell me that again after lightning fries your water pump or your fridge/freezer conks out.
That’s home maintenance; not an emergency. Happens all the time. Be prepared for it.
Yeah, be prepared for lightning strikes and any other natural disasters that might arise. Such things are not emergencies. LOL
I’m just telling you what I do. I drive what I can pay for. I live in what I can pay for. When it breaks, I fix or replace it. It isn’t a big deal if you aren’t making payments.
THIS AGAIN. Live within your means. I drive a 15 year old truck, my wife's is 8 years old. I am 77 and still work for a living. I will never retire. You want something?????????????? WORK for it.
Just remember this. Think about how dumb the average person is. And then consider that half the people are dumber then that person. And there's your answer.
That is sig line material right there....
Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize that half of them are stupider than that. ~ George Carlin
The 2023 dually payment, new 5th wheel I got for Sturgis is kickin my ass but sooo so worth it. For a peek at dem saggy titties
TFF! LOL
I know a guy who went on a cruise to Alaska. When he got back he said he had seen so many liver spotted tits that he would never be able to get it up again. Be cheaper than a 5th wheel.
I didn't hear Charles Paynes talk but I'd say that it's closer to 44% couldn't come up with $400 in an emergency. My guess is the percentage of folks who couldn't reach $1000 is far higher.
All I can say is God bless Dave Ramsey. He's changing peoples attitude toward debt in a good way.
Tell me that again after lightning fries your water pump or your fridge/freezer conks out.
That’s home maintenance; not an emergency. Happens all the time. Be prepared for it.
Yeah, be prepared for lightning strikes and any other natural disasters that might arise. Such things are not emergencies. LOL
I’m just telling you what I do. I drive what I can pay for. I live in what I can pay for. When it breaks, I fix or replace it. It isn’t a big deal if you aren’t making payments.
I'd be willing to bet that the vast majority of people would consider those things emergencies.
. Probably so. I don’t know. Are you in the “vast majority”? If so, you are a dumbass
It's really sad when you think about it. I don't have a $1k in my wallet at the moment.
It is sad. Good habits are hard. We should teach our kids math life skills in school. They learn to graph a line. Who tf ever graphs a line. You use money every day. Teach them those skills.
Only 44% of Americans can. Just saw that on Charles Payne and thought wow. Over half of Americans would have to charge it on a credit card, borrow from a family member or take out a loan for $1000.
I’m curious why it’s anyones business. If I want to be broke and have tv and watch foosball, that what I’ll do.
As long as they’re not mooching off the tax payers, mind your own damn business.
Ah, but many do mooch. Many others piss and moan about being broke, but never question the propaganda cost. Sorry that I hit a nerve.
My post was pretty clear and I didn’t respond to you, did I?
I apologize.
All good. I know plenty of people that work their ass off to make ends meet. Whatever they choose to spend their money on, if it makes them happy that’s fine with me.
Also know plenty of loaded people that aren’t happy.
Yes to the Q, but something I don't recall coming from Ramsey is how to leverage your money. So, new car is needed. Save up the cash, then pay for the car with a cc. A cc that offers bennies (miles, points, whatever) and pay for the car with the cc. Pay off that cc in full when the bill comes in. You've got the car and XX bennie points to use on something else. RB
I’m curious why it’s anyones business. If I want to be broke and have tv and watch foosball, that what I’ll do.
As long as they’re not mooching off the tax payers, mind your own damn business.
In the grocery store watch those using their EBT.. Those folks couldn't eat without a hand out let alone come up with $1000. It cost alot to play the daily lotto and buy the daily crack.
I’m curious why it’s anyones business. If I want to be broke and have tv and watch foosball, that what I’ll do.
As long as they’re not mooching off the tax payers, mind your own damn business.
In the grocery store watch those using their EBT.. Those folks couldn't eat without a hand out let alone come up with $1000. It cost alot to play the daily lotto and buy the daily crack.
Right, but I mentioned as long as they’re not mooching off tax payers.
Some I work with couldn't even come up with $100 if need be.
I smoke, I know it's a bad habit but IDGAF. Anyways a coworker came up and asked for a cigarette, I told him I'm not gonna support his habit and to go buy a pack. He gave me a sob story of no money, his phone was shut off, he might have to call in tomorrow cuz no gas money to drive in..blah, blah,blah. I told him smoking is the last thing he needs to worry about.
Some folks just get put in bad situations, out of their control but some are just idiots.
A man once told me if your money wasn’t working for you then you are poor. He was “poor” by the wallet but on paper he had over a million.
Another guy told me once that he has been to the top 3 times. He’s fallen twice and always had friends that helped him out. He said he never burned a bridge. Of course he had good friends if anyone remembers the name Chris Cline.
1k??? About 42 x with just the running checking balance after bills. Not touching other assets.
Like Sandbilly has said in ways. Plenty of solid folks making ends meet not on unca suga tiddy,s. They aint the problem or should be seen as a problem in ways.
Welfare rats. Welfare rats working just below income thresholds and planning it that way. Welfare rats working under the table double dipping.
We all know the type and who they generally vote for....
Is what it is when half of the nation is propped up on other peoples taxes...
Fugg...what is it like 50% or 60% of people dont pay a penny in taxes but yet receive returns of 1000,s each year. And on some sort of .gov or welfare program to begin with...
Flat tax 10% Every swinging Richard... From Joe Citizen to Billionaires to corporate America. Everybody.....
I would love to have a 10% tax liabilty myself. I imagine many would love that rate also.
April 15 is gonna suck as usual.. Write that check for Wide screens, spinner rims, malt liquor, and herb...
Just wait till a bunch of these aloof fuggtards getting 300 a month child check or whatever it is called.. Realize it has been pro rated off their tax return money...
Joey gonna have ta do something to appease those types I bet. That earned income and child tax credit bonanza return aint gonna be like it was for em last year.
It will be President President Trumps fault and it will be racist spun per the Liberal Socialist Democrat media ministry of propaganda.
1k??? About 42 x with just the running checking balance after bills. Not touching other assets.
Like Sandbilly has said in ways. Plenty of solid folks making ends meet not on unca suga tiddy,s. They aint the problem or should be seen as a problem in ways.
Welfare rats. Welfare rats working just below income thresholds and planning it that way. Welfare rats working under the table double dipping.
We all know the type and who they generally vote for....
Is what it is when half of the nation is propped up on other peoples taxes...
Fugg...what is it like 50% or 60% of people dont pay a penny in taxes but yet receive returns of 1000,s each year. And on some sort of .gov or welfare program to begin with...
Flat tax 10% Every swinging Richard... From Joe Citizen to Billionaires to corporate America. Everybody.....
I would love to have a 10% tax liabilty myself. I imagine many would love that rate also.
April 15 is gonna suck as usual.. Write that check for Wide screens, spinner rims, malt liquor, and herb...
Just wait till a bunch of these aloof fuggtards getting 300 a month child check or whatever it is called.. Realize it has been pro rated off their tax return money...
Joey gonna have ta do something to appease those types I bet. That earned income and child tax credit bonanza return aint gonna be like it was for em last year.
It will be President President Trumps fault and it will be racist spun per the Liberal Socialist Democrat media ministry of propaganda.
Blah blah blah
$5000 pos 2001 pickup rent to center couch Pink faded Kromey Stormer cap
1k??? About 42 x with just the running checking balance after bills. Not touching other assets.
Like Sandbilly has said in ways. Plenty of solid folks making ends meet not on unca suga tiddy,s. They aint the problem or should be seen as a problem in ways.
Welfare rats. Welfare rats working just below income thresholds and planning it that way. Welfare rats working under the table double dipping.
We all know the type and who they generally vote for....
Is what it is when half of the nation is propped up on other peoples taxes...
Fugg...what is it like 50% or 60% of people dont pay a penny in taxes but yet receive returns of 1000,s each year. And on some sort of .gov or welfare program to begin with...
Flat tax 10% Every swinging Richard... From Joe Citizen to Billionaires to corporate America. Everybody.....
I would love to have a 10% tax liabilty myself. I imagine many would love that rate also.
April 15 is gonna suck as usual.. Write that check for Wide screens, spinner rims, malt liquor, and herb...
Just wait till a bunch of these aloof fuggtards getting 300 a month child check or whatever it is called.. Realize it has been pro rated off their tax return money...
Joey gonna have ta do something to appease those types I bet. That earned income and child tax credit bonanza return aint gonna be like it was for em last year.
It will be President President Trumps fault and it will be racist spun per the Liberal Socialist Democrat media ministry of propaganda.
Blah blah blah
$5000 pos 2001 pickup rent to center couch Pink faded Kromey Stormer cap
That is not..
I repeat not... A stormy Kromer hat.
In misguided drug addled youth in Maine I wore a Jones stlye orange cap and a woolwich red plaid.
That was well before I received my mental money discharge from Unca Suga... And kept my Yankee azz down here in the south.
Just to get under people's skin and occupy space in their noggins. Make em think type of schit.......
Aka: The Long game........... 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I got 3 bucks in my wallet.. And some change in jar upstairs.
Khans banking app goes off like a foghorn in boston harbor when I use that Bank card I think. She dont say nothing but I know she watches that schit like a Hawk. 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤪🤪🤪😁😁😁
My swiss bank account under the radar thing from her is wellll...
This 3 bucks in my wallet and that change jar right now. Outta the ammo game... No interest in going back in it either.... Just buy and keep mode now.
Well, I guess I'm the looooooser of the bunch. As of now, I would be hard pressed to cover a $1,000 surprise bill. To make matters worse my Diesel pickup (05 GMC) . stopped running . Yep, it was idling for about 1 min. and just stopped. It's in the shop now. With the $1,000 credit card payment coming up next week, and possibly the $1,000 truck repair, I will be hard pressed to come up with the money. However, let me explain. Thanksgiving weekend I had an 04 Malibu that had rusted out Subframe so bad the shop said dont drive it. I ended up with an 08 Chevy Impala with 45,000 mi. on it . Set me back $9,700. Come Jan. 3rd I put in my yearly ROTH for the wife and I . That set me back $14,000.. I have $1,000 in cedit card payments, a $1,000 home owners ins. payment due soon, and likely a $1,000 truck repair bill. so, no , right now I dont have $1,000 to spare. On January 3rd this year , I had a grand total of $ 207 left in my checking account. I do however, have a $2,000 check for a drywall job I can get soon and another $2800 invoice should be in the mail soon for a kitchen remodel. I am however all but broke at the time.
Some I work with couldn't even come up with $100 if need be.
I smoke, I know it's a bad habit but IDGAF. Anyways a coworker came up and asked for a cigarette, I told him I'm not gonna support his habit and to go buy a pack. He gave me a sob story of no money, his phone was shut off, he might have to call in tomorrow cuz no gas money to drive in..blah, blah,blah. I told him smoking is the last thing he needs to worry about.
Some folks just get put in bad situations, out of their control but some are just idiots.
Dude... This works for a priceless moment trust me...
Hey man ya got an extra smoke I can bum off you???
We took some ciggs out of a lazy runt’s pack on the job once, roofing job. Stuttgart run 3 of em up his sweaty ass crack and slipped em back in that pack. LOL
When me and Khan got married. Like 2 or 3 months into this odyssey.....
Seen her with the checkbook and a calculator.
Watching for few mins. What are doing? ( knew it anyways)
Im balancing the check book (smiling like she was doing something needed)
I'm like you know that balance aint right...
She is like Im balancing this to the exact penny.
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Tell her When I write a check for say 22.34. I put it in the register as 23.
Been doing it for years, probably a 400 buck buffer in it this year. I look at as spending money minus 50 bucks to start over each year off the November bank statement balance
Laid it all out to her dont fret change, round up. 1st in things that dont count or apply to you dont matter.
Turned into a Christmas fund under her doing that. With each girl getting 100 125 bucks to buy presents. Khan had em doing chores. Nothing major but daily responsibility stuff when they was young girls.
We took some ciggs out of a lazy runt’s pack on the job once, roofing job. Stuttgart run 3 of em up his sweaty ass crack and slipped em back in that pack. LOL
We took some ciggs out of a lazy runt’s pack on the job once, roofing job. Stuttgart run 3 of em up his sweaty ass crack and slipped em back in that pack. LOL
Remember those old cigg load exploding sticks. Early 70,s things. Little over 1/4th inch long.
Me and my brother set up grandma on dads side. Daisy chained in sequence about 5 of em inside one of her Salem 100,s...
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Holy fugg ... Bangbangbangbangbang Ripple fire...
Gram Screaming, arms waving her fugging nasty little poodle Peeto yapping( hated that thing)
I geuss we were lucky she didnt stoke out. We got our azz,s lit up on that one. Bad......
Gram just fired up another after we got our azz,s lit up by dad.... When we swore we didnt get any others standing in front of her like condemned men...
Sore azz,s and all.
Your long gone... But I love ya gram... 🤦♂️🤦♂️👍👍🥴🥴😁😁😁😁
I have two adult children who if they have $10 they will spend $15, I have another that can take that same $10 and make it into $15. The funny thing though is that the one who is wise about spending / investing money has a daughter that can spend money faster than it is printed.
What I don't understand though is that from the time they were children they were taught the value of a dollar, how to save and how to invest, there has to be some disconnect in people who are perpetually broke or living on the edge.
No problem. Plop down a card and pay it off at the end of the month. It's the 50-to $75 k that would require a visit to the bank. Just don't want the pickup to die at some place like Watson Lake.
Wife used to work with a kid that upon hearing of pending raise would visit payroll asking for the precise amount for his next check. A $10 surprise would ruin him for a month.
I've got three (3) vehicles each one has "some" cash stash, not counting my billfold. Each vehicle is equipped with an emergency reserve. Why would grown men not have $1000 +/- cash on hand.
Sam finally comes clean after all him and Conrad’s whining about below zero this and frozen cow patties that. He’s had y’all snowed, look at this paradise he lives in.
Yes to the Q, but something I don't recall coming from Ramsey is how to leverage your money. So, new car is needed. Save up the cash, then pay for the car with a cc. A cc that offers bennies (miles, points, whatever) and pay for the car with the cc. Pay off that cc in full when the bill comes in. You've got the car and XX bennie points to use on something else. RB
I don't know any car dealer that'll let you charge a whole vehicle. A down payment they will, but not the entire car.
The one I'm dealing with will take up to 50% of the cost of the car. Pay 50% down a few weeks ahead on the cc, then pay it off with the cc at closing. As you noted, not all dealers will, but some, like mine, have ways. RB
Tell me that again after lightning fries your water pump or your fridge/freezer conks out.
That’s home maintenance; not an emergency. Happens all the time. Be prepared for it.
Yeah, be prepared for lightning strikes and any other natural disasters that might arise. Such things are not emergencies. LOL
I’m just telling you what I do. I drive what I can pay for. I live in what I can pay for. When it breaks, I fix or replace it. It isn’t a big deal if you aren’t making payments.
I'd be willing to bet that the vast majority of people would consider those things emergencies.
. Probably so. I don’t know. Are you in the “vast majority”? If so, you are a dumbass
Except for homes, I've paid cash for everything I've ever owned in my life, including every vehicle and I've never had a credit card.. I could write a check for many times that amount right now and it wouldn't bounce and I'm completely debt free..
I just covered a $2800 unexpected expense, my sister texted me last week after her car was repossessed. She could have let me know beforehand! She tried everything she could think of and was waiting for an emergency hardship 401K disbursement but she ran out of time.
I covered it for her. She had a bad bad case of covid last year. She works hard, she is widowed, her daughter lives with her and shares expenses. She gave what she had last year to her step-son who is a Afghanistan vet with PTSD, he was about to lose his work truck and tools. Then when she needed it for herself of course he couldn't pay her back. She can't ever seem to get ahead. I assume she will pay me when she gets that hardship disbursement!
. Except for homes, I've paid cash for everything I've ever owned in my life, including every vehicle and I've never had a credit card.. I could write a check for many times that amount right now and it wouldn't bounce and I'm completely debt free..
I'm all about debt free, don't get me wrong, but not having a credit card?
How did you function as a gunsmith? Buying parts online you made your customers wait until your snail mail check arrived and cleared with your vendors?
Plus, I put a ton on the credit card, my purchases are protected, and I get cash back. Just don't carry a balance and you don't pay interest.
. Except for homes, I've paid cash for everything I've ever owned in my life, including every vehicle and I've never had a credit card.. I could write a check for many times that amount right now and it wouldn't bounce and I'm completely debt free..
I'm all about debt free, don't get me wrong, but not having a credit card?
How did you function as a gunsmith? Buying parts online you made your customers wait until your snail mail check arrived and cleared with your vendors?
Plus, I put a ton on the credit card, my purchases are protected, and I get cash back. Just don't carry a balance and you don't pay interest.
I'm all about debt free, don't get me wrong, but not having a credit card?
How did you function as a gunsmith? Buying parts online you made your customers wait until your snail mail check arrived and cleared with your vendors?
Plus, I put a ton on the credit card, my purchases are protected, and I get cash back. Just don't carry a balance and you don't pay interest.
I always worked for someone else so never had to worry about it.. Much of that was before home computers were even a thing.. We were poor growing up. My dad taught me to be frugal and practical and it stuck. I've never been prone to extravagance or gave a shyt about keeping up with the Jones's so extra money was put away while others pissed it away on extravagant homes, toys, vehicles, vacations, dining out, etc. etc..
Just remember this. Think about how dumb the average person is. And then consider that half the people are dumber then that person. And there's your answer.
We have at least 2 generations that haven't had to endure hardship and have been trained to consume. Previous generations endured WW1, the great depression and WW2. They became "risk adverse" and understood saving for a rainy day. The also understood the consequences of their actions. Subsequent generations learned to blame their hardship on someone else and became the "entitlement" generations.
Be out rolling down the interstate, on a whim decided to call it early and grab a hotel.
Have IHG credit card, cycle month living expenses like electric bill and insurance, run groceries across it. Earn Holiday Inn Express or Suites nights a couple a month just based on expenditures.
Fire up their app on my phone, reserve a room and exchange the points 30-50 miles before the exit, badda bing. Hardly ever pay for rooms. Points/cash back on card covers the room. We travel all the time. My old man, we got him set up, he gives us his hotel room points. Build em up, stay 7-10 days gone. Traveled all over the “out west” as the douchees call it. Never spent out of pocket for a room. Been doing that for several years
Be out rolling down the interstate, on a whim decided to call it early and grab a hotel.
Have IHG credit card, cycle month living expenses like electric bill and insurance, run groceries across it. Earn Holiday Inn Express or Suites nights a couple a month just based on expenditures.
Fire up their app on my phone, reserve a room and exchange the points 30-50 miles before the exit, badda bing. Hardly ever pay for rooms. Points/cash back on card covers the room. We travel all the time. My old man, we got him set up, he gives us his hotel room points. Build em up, stay 7-10 days gone. Traveled all over the “out west” as the douchees call it. Never spent out of pocket for a room. Been doing that for several years
Be out rolling down the interstate, on a whim decided to call it early and grab a hotel.
Have IHG credit card, cycle month living expenses like electric bill and insurance, run groceries across it. Earn Holiday Inn Express or Suites nights a couple a month just based on expenditures.
Fire up their app on my phone, reserve a room and exchange the points 30-50 miles before the exit, badda bing. Hardly ever pay for rooms. Points/cash back on card covers the room. We travel all the time. My old man, we got him set up, he gives us his hotel room points. Build em up, stay 7-10 days gone. Traveled all over the “out west” as the douchees call it. Never spent out of pocket for a room. Been doing that for several years
Be out rolling down the interstate, on a whim decided to call it early and grab a hotel.
Have IHG credit card, cycle month living expenses like electric bill and insurance, run groceries across it. Earn Holiday Inn Express or Suites nights a couple a month just based on expenditures.
Fire up their app on my phone, reserve a room and exchange the points 30-50 miles before the exit, badda bing. Hardly ever pay for rooms. Points/cash back on card covers the room. We travel all the time. My old man, we got him set up, he gives us his hotel room points. Build em up, stay 7-10 days gone. Traveled all over the “out west” as the douchees call it. Never spent out of pocket for a room. Been doing that for several years
Be out rolling down the interstate, on a whim decided to call it early and grab a hotel.
Have IHG credit card, cycle month living expenses like electric bill and insurance, run groceries across it. Earn Holiday Inn Express or Suites nights a couple a month just based on expenditures.
Fire up their app on my phone, reserve a room and exchange the points 30-50 miles before the exit, badda bing. Hardly ever pay for rooms. Points/cash back on card covers the room. We travel all the time. My old man, we got him set up, he gives us his hotel room points. Build em up, stay 7-10 days gone. Traveled all over the “out west” as the douchees call it. Never spent out of pocket for a room. Been doing that for several years
Out west as in San Fran?
Close
I caught enough of the gay just gettjng near Geno’s place
It's no sin to be poor, but it's damn inconvenient.
Sam, You're right it is...But working doesn't always mean you weren't poor. I've worked my whole life including High school right up till now. Married young and trying to raise a family saw plenty of lean times. But we made do. Started my charter business 36 years ago and it took everything we had to buy and outfit the boat, more lean times for a couple years but again we made do. Thankfully the work and persistence led to a successful business. I'll be 72 in a couple months and could easily not have to work again but I love what I do and will continue until health says otherwise. Best to you, Butch
. Except for homes, I've paid cash for everything I've ever owned in my life, including every vehicle and I've never had a credit card.. I could write a check for many times that amount right now and it wouldn't bounce and I'm completely debt free..
I'm all about debt free, don't get me wrong, but not having a credit card?
How did you function as a gunsmith? Buying parts online you made your customers wait until your snail mail check arrived and cleared with your vendors?
Plus, I put a ton on the credit card, my purchases are protected, and I get cash back. Just don't carry a balance and you don't pay interest.
Even the lake house ?? Asking for a friend?
Lake place is mortgage free. My "real" home will be in 4 years of less.
Be out rolling down the interstate, on a whim decided to call it early and grab a hotel.
Have IHG credit card, cycle month living expenses like electric bill and insurance, run groceries across it. Earn Holiday Inn Express or Suites nights a couple a month just based on expenditures.
Fire up their app on my phone, reserve a room and exchange the points 30-50 miles before the exit, badda bing. Hardly ever pay for rooms. Points/cash back on card covers the room. We travel all the time. My old man, we got him set up, he gives us his hotel room points. Build em up, stay 7-10 days gone. Traveled all over the “out west” as the douchees call it. Never spent out of pocket for a room. Been doing that for several years
Out west as in San Fran?
Close
I caught enough of the gay just gettjng near Geno’s place
Thankfully the work and persistence led to a successful business. I'll be 72 in a couple months and could easily not have to work again but I love what I do and will continue until health says otherwise. Best to you, Butch
Early this morning I was wiping dog chit off my toes.
Yeah, I’m sorry about that Sam....I couldn’t find the toilet in the dark. I did find a kitchen chair, and I think a quilt rug stand. I just braced myself between both and launched...Then I left.
Well, I guess I'm the looooooser of the bunch. As of now, I would be hard pressed to cover a $1,000 surprise bill. To make matters worse my Diesel pickup (05 GMC) . stopped running . Yep, it was idling for about 1 min. and just stopped. It's in the shop now. With the $1,000 credit card payment coming up next week, and possibly the $1,000 truck repair, I will be hard pressed to come up with the money. However, let me explain. Thanksgiving weekend I had an 04 Malibu that had rusted out Subframe so bad the shop said dont drive it. I ended up with an 08 Chevy Impala with 45,000 mi. on it . Set me back $9,700. Come Jan. 3rd I put in my yearly ROTH for the wife and I . That set me back $14,000.. I have $1,000 in cedit card payments, a $1,000 home owners ins. payment due soon, and likely a $1,000 truck repair bill. so, no , right now I dont have $1,000 to spare. On January 3rd this year , I had a grand total of $ 207 left in my checking account. I do however, have a $2,000 check for a drywall job I can get soon and another $2800 invoice should be in the mail soon for a kitchen remodel. I am however all but broke at the time.
Well damn. Don't go turning into one of those contractors that spends the new job's money on the last job's bills. Better times are coming, just ask Joe!
Early this morning I was wiping dog chit off my toes.
Yeah, I’m sorry about that Sam....I couldn’t find the toilet in the dark. I did find a kitchen chair, and I think a quilt rug stand. I just braced myself between both and launched...Then I left.
Feel horrible.
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Beav, like an unruly horse or dog, you know I will always forgive.
aren't you about due for one of your patented meltdowns, and then run off for 6 months?
we've seen it before 2-3 times. After New Mexico kicked you out.
Sycamore
Jeebus, do you have Alzheimer’s? Or just copy and paste your own posts all night?
If you think for one second I give a flying [bleep] what anyone here thinks, you’re not near as smart as you think you are. But, we knew that already.
I left once for a year, year and half maybe. Sometimes I get tired of you stupid mother [bleep]. When I get sick of your stupid shît, I might take a break. You can bet your dumbass I’ll be back.
Yes to the Q, but something I don't recall coming from Ramsey is how to leverage your money. So, new car is needed. Save up the cash, then pay for the car with a cc. A cc that offers bennies (miles, points, whatever) and pay for the car with the cc. Pay off that cc in full when the bill comes in. You've got the car and XX bennie points to use on something else. RB
I don't know any car dealer that'll let you charge a whole vehicle. A down payment they will, but not the entire car.
I have done it a couple of times, the last time being when I purchased my 2016 Jeep. We cut the deal on price and when they asked how I wanted to pay for it I handed them my credit card - there was a great deal of moaning and crying about how they couldn't take a card so I told them either they take it or I walk, They took the card which is a 2% cash card and at the end of the month I paid off the card and put the cash back it earned into savings.
With todays vehicle market I doubt that they would do it since there seem to be more people who are willing to pay any price with the ongoing vehicle shortage.
$1000 no problem. But it feels like I'm broke after writing a check for a brand new truck today. Brutal prices out there.
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2022 diesel F350 Platinum Tremor edition.
Guy ordered and backed out. Was on the lot. Take it or wait 4 months. Local dealer gave me $1000 off sticker. Anything below sticker is a steal right now.
$1000 no problem. But it feels like I'm broke after writing a check for a brand new truck today. Brutal prices out there.
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Details???
2022 diesel F350 Platinum Tremor edition.
Guy ordered and backed out. Was on the lot. Take it or wait 4 months. Local dealer gave me $1000 off sticker. Anything below sticker is a steal right now.
$1000 no problem. But it feels like I'm broke after writing a check for a brand new truck today. Brutal prices out there.
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Details???
2022 diesel F350 Platinum Tremor edition.
Guy ordered and backed out. Was on the lot. Take it or wait 4 months. Local dealer gave me $1000 off sticker. Anything below sticker is a steal right now.
Something like this?
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Man, not my color, but that's a good lookin' truck.
$1000 no problem. But it feels like I'm broke after writing a check for a brand new truck today. Brutal prices out there.
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Details???
2022 diesel F350 Platinum Tremor edition.
Guy ordered and backed out. Was on the lot. Take it or wait 4 months. Local dealer gave me $1000 off sticker. Anything below sticker is a steal right now.
$1000 no problem. But it feels like I'm broke after writing a check for a brand new truck today. Brutal prices out there.
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Details???
2022 diesel F350 Platinum Tremor edition.
Guy ordered and backed out. Was on the lot. Take it or wait 4 months. Local dealer gave me $1000 off sticker. Anything below sticker is a steal right now.
$1000 no problem. But it feels like I'm broke after writing a check for a brand new truck today. Brutal prices out there.
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Details???
2022 diesel F350 Platinum Tremor edition.
Guy ordered and backed out. Was on the lot. Take it or wait 4 months. Local dealer gave me $1000 off sticker. Anything below sticker is a steal right now.
Something like this?
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Holee schit!!!🤙🤙🤙👍👍👍
He thinks that color scheme is gay.
To each his own. I don't like bright colors that screem pull me over. I may or may not be known to have a roadie or two.
$1000 no problem. But it feels like I'm broke after writing a check for a brand new truck today. Brutal prices out there.
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Details???
2022 diesel F350 Platinum Tremor edition.
Guy ordered and backed out. Was on the lot. Take it or wait 4 months. Local dealer gave me $1000 off sticker. Anything below sticker is a steal right now.
Something like this?
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Man, not my color, but that's a good lookin' truck.
Lol, I’m not sure ifthat dude reminds me of Barnabus or……
Nah, I think that's Western Juniper. "Lifting heavy pieces of wood and stone. Bulging biceps and strong shoulders." Man's retreat? I bet they anoint each other with holy oil!🙏🙏🙏🙏
Lol, I’m not sure ifthat dude reminds me of Barnabus or……
Nah, I think that's Western Juniper. "Lifting heavy pieces of wood and stone. Bulging biceps and strong shoulders." I bet they anoint each other with holy oil!🙏🙏🙏🙏
I think it’s Helpless Camper. Those shoulders eating his neck and head like foreskin.
Lol, I’m not sure ifthat dude reminds me of Barnabus or……
Nah, I think that's Western Juniper. "Lifting heavy pieces of wood and stone. Bulging biceps and strong shoulders." I bet they anoint each other with holy oil!🙏🙏🙏🙏
I think it’s Helpless Camper. Those shoulders eating his neck and head like foreskin.
Tomorrow if you like. Good question. Don't even know. Was looking for a well equipped crew cab shortbed f350. This was the only one available and it was a fluke that it was available. Dealer said he could have sold it to another dealer for $5000 over MSRP. We do some fleet buys with him every year, so he takes care of us local guys.
When I was in college in the 1970s, I noticed two things about other college students. 1) They did not have a summer job -> savings account -> budget for the 9 month school year. 2) They ran out of money.
When I was in college in the 1970s, I noticed two things about other college students. 1) They did not have a summer job -> savings account -> budget for the 9 month school year. 2) They ran out of money.
Yes to the Q, but something I don't recall coming from Ramsey is how to leverage your money. So, new car is needed. Save up the cash, then pay for the car with a cc. A cc that offers bennies (miles, points, whatever) and pay for the car with the cc. Pay off that cc in full when the bill comes in. You've got the car and XX bennie points to use on something else. RB
I don't know any car dealer that'll let you charge a whole vehicle. A down payment they will, but not the entire car.
It's not hard to beat your leverage plan Rupert.
We use a card to pay all monthly bills. One never gets missed, you only use one check/stamp, And we get rewards.
Otherwise we only use it for internet purchases.
But. When I'm buying something that costs several hundred $f plus, after negotiating the price as good as it will get,
"I have a rewards card, I know I don't get back as much as they charge you. Sooo, can you, maybe split the difference with me if I pay cash?
Never tried it for a car, just pay cash. Not sure why, but that will change. Hopefully not soon!
$1000 no problem. But it feels like I'm broke after writing a check for a brand new truck today. Brutal prices out there.
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Details???
2022 diesel F350 Platinum Tremor edition.
Guy ordered and backed out. Was on the lot. Take it or wait 4 months. Local dealer gave me $1000 off sticker. Anything below sticker is a steal right now.
Something like this?
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Holee schit!!!🤙🤙🤙👍👍👍
He thinks that color scheme is gay.
To each his own. I don't like bright colors that screem pull me over. I may or may not be known to have a roadie or two.
Yours is grey or a dark color??? 👍👍👍🤙🤙🤙🤙 Hellava truck no matter the color.
It's no sin to be poor, but it's damn inconvenient.
Sam, You're right it is...But working doesn't always mean you weren't poor. I've worked my whole life including High school right up till now. Married young and trying to raise a family saw plenty of lean times. But we made do. Started my charter business 36 years ago and it took everything we had to buy and outfit the boat, more lean times for a couple years but again we made do. Thankfully the work and persistence led to a successful business. I'll be 72 in a couple months and could easily not have to work again but I love what I do and will continue until health says otherwise. Best to you, Butch
Nice Job Butch...
I wouldn't give a plugged nickle for a man that made it any other way.
Thats what I was thinking. Just had a conversation with our finance guy yesterday. Seems we may have to much in rainy day low interest stuff according to him. LOL.
Yes to the Q, but something I don't recall coming from Ramsey is how to leverage your money. So, new car is needed. Save up the cash, then pay for the car with a cc. A cc that offers bennies (miles, points, whatever) and pay for the car with the cc. Pay off that cc in full when the bill comes in. You've got the car and XX bennie points to use on something else. RB
I don't know any car dealer that'll let you charge a whole vehicle. A down payment they will, but not the entire car.
It's not hard to beat your leverage plan Rupert.
We use a card to pay all monthly bills. One never gets missed, you only use one check/stamp, And we get rewards.
Otherwise we only use it for internet purchases.
But. When I'm buying something that costs several hundred $f plus, after negotiating the price as good as it will get,
"I have a rewards card, I know I don't get back as much as they charge you. Sooo, can you, maybe split the difference with me if I pay cash?
Never tried it for a car, just pay cash. Not sure why, but that will change. Hopefully not soon!
Sign up to your credit card account and pay your bill online. No stamp, no check, nothing can get lost. You can do it from home or 5,000 miles away.
Well I figured most of the Campfire members would have no problem covering $1000, most have that much in their 'just in case I find a good deal' gun fund. I also imagine many of the Campfire members are 40+ and know what it's like to be financially responsible. I was just shocked when I saw that over 1/2 of Americans could not come up with $1000 if they needed to.
1k just in case I find a good deal has tripled that amount lately
And correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think the Tremor is setup suspension wise for dedicated pulling and hauling.
Yeah, suspension is a little softer. I didn't really want the tremor package but it was take it or wait 4 months. I'll see how it does with the gooseneck and put bags on the rear axle if it's too soft.
And correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think the Tremor is setup suspension wise for dedicated pulling and hauling.
Yeah, suspension is a little softer. I didn't really want the tremor package but it was take it or wait 4 months. I'll see how it does with the gooseneck and put bags on the rear axle if it's too soft.
The way things are going you'll probably be able to sell it for a profit, if you don't like it.
Only 44% of Americans can. Just saw that on Charles Payne and thought wow. Over half of Americans would have to charge it on a credit card, borrow from a family member or take out a loan for $1000.
Does seeing a crisp looking Sako blued walnut rifle on the classifieds page qualify as an emergency?
$1000 no problem. But it feels like I'm broke after writing a check for a brand new truck today. Brutal prices out there.
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Details???
2022 diesel F350 Platinum Tremor edition.
Guy ordered and backed out. Was on the lot. Take it or wait 4 months. Local dealer gave me $1000 off sticker. Anything below sticker is a steal right now.
Buddy needed to spend some money for some write offs this week, decided to get a plain jane bottom of the line chevy 2500 for his business. What used to be 33k was now 44k sticker AND they told him there would be a 5k markup on top of that. He told them he would do sticker and that was it. They said nope.
$1000 no problem. But it feels like I'm broke after writing a check for a brand new truck today. Brutal prices out there.
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Details???
2022 diesel F350 Platinum Tremor edition.
Guy ordered and backed out. Was on the lot. Take it or wait 4 months. Local dealer gave me $1000 off sticker. Anything below sticker is a steal right now.
Buddy needed to spend some money for some write offs this week, decided to get a plain jane bottom of the line chevy 2500 for his business. What used to be 33k was now 44k sticker AND they told him there would be a 5k markup on top of that. He told them he would do sticker and that was it. They said nope.
Dealership thought they had your buddy by the balls. Obviously, they didn't. But, there's a sucker right behind him that will pay that. I suggest he look for a truck 1 to 2 years old, but he's probably already down that road now.
$1000 no problem. But it feels like I'm broke after writing a check for a brand new truck today. Brutal prices out there.
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Details???
2022 diesel F350 Platinum Tremor edition.
Guy ordered and backed out. Was on the lot. Take it or wait 4 months. Local dealer gave me $1000 off sticker. Anything below sticker is a steal right now.
Buddy needed to spend some money for some write offs this week, decided to get a plain jane bottom of the line chevy 2500 for his business. What used to be 33k was now 44k sticker AND they told him there would be a 5k markup on top of that. He told them he would do sticker and that was it. They said nope.
Dealership thought they had your buddy by the balls. Obviously, they didn't. But, there's a sucker right behind him that will pay that. I suggest he look for a truck 1 to 2 years old, but he's probably already down that road now.
1 to 2yo truck in my neck of the woods are bringing new prices, its crazy. I could sale my 2020 more than a 2022 because the 22s arent coming with all the bells and whistles due to chip shortage.
$1000 no problem. But it feels like I'm broke after writing a check for a brand new truck today. Brutal prices out there.
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Details???
2022 diesel F350 Platinum Tremor edition.
Guy ordered and backed out. Was on the lot. Take it or wait 4 months. Local dealer gave me $1000 off sticker. Anything below sticker is a steal right now.
Buddy needed to spend some money for some write offs this week, decided to get a plain jane bottom of the line chevy 2500 for his business. What used to be 33k was now 44k sticker AND they told him there would be a 5k markup on top of that. He told them he would do sticker and that was it. They said nope.
Dealership thought they had your buddy by the balls. Obviously, they didn't. But, there's a sucker right behind him that will pay that. I suggest he look for a truck 1 to 2 years old, but he's probably already down that road now.
1 to 2yo truck in my neck of the woods are bringing new prices, its crazy. I could sale my 2020 more than a 2022 because the 22s arent coming with all the bells and whistles due to chip shortage.
Only 44% of Americans can. Just saw that on Charles Payne and thought wow. Over half of Americans would have to charge it on a credit card, borrow from a family member or take out a loan for $1000.
Does seeing a crisp looking Sako blued walnut rifle on the classifieds page qualify as an emergency?
Damn sure does Gonna buy a 300 win mag today, 4 digit serial number
Only 44% of Americans can. Just saw that on Charles Payne and thought wow. Over half of Americans would have to charge it on a credit card, borrow from a family member or take out a loan for $1000.
Does seeing a crisp looking Sako blued walnut rifle on the classifieds page qualify as an emergency?